What is the best reported 1/4 time anyone has seen for the Cobalt SS?

Fastest reported was 14.5@98mph, that sounds promising!

That is some good MPH for the ET. Needs some slicks. 98 mph can go mid to high 13s with good traction. :o

High 13s with slicks and a great driver

only way it will go mid 13s is if it has more mods done than stock

i hope the clutch in the cobalt isnt as shitty as the clutch in the scrapalier feels...all mushy and shit

Bah, who needs slicks.

Best time in the SRT-4 is on the stock street tires, with the PSI I daily drive in them (~28)

2.05 60', 13.8@97 MPH @ 4400 ft. elevation (El Paso, TX)

So, with a good driver powershifting every gear and getting a good launch, 98 can yield a 13 second quarter.

i hope the clutch in the cobalt isnt as shitty as the clutch in the scrapalier feels...all mushy and shit

I agree the 00 cavalier I had was pretty poopy. This car looks promosing...I cant wait for guy in my car club to get one so we can start modding.

I think with a really good driver, the car should pull a 14.3 stock, probably 13.9-14.1 with drag radials :)

It's all going to be in the launch, SLP got a 13.1 in the 04 GTO when most are getting mid 13's. But I believe they burnt through a whole clutch to get it.

It's all going to be in the launch, SLP got a 13.1 in the 04 GTO when most are getting mid 13's. But I believe they burnt through a whole clutch to get it.

I agree with that, seems like most of the stock SRT4's are running 14.0's and the ones that actually hit the 13.7 mark stock had 60ft times that were in the 2.0 range.

its all about the driver and how much clutch material you have to burn. JUST DON'T HOP THE TIRES!! thats the worst thing you can do to the drive train.

If you are going to try to get quick times i think its a good idea to be ready to invest in a new clutch.

I disagree... you dont have to burn up a clutch to get good times. It's part clutch, and part throttle. If you arent putting 100% of your power through the clutch (while its slipping) -- you wont be burning it up.

Launching is all technique.... part throtlee, part clutch, part track conditions, part luck.

I'm still on my stock clutch (in the SRT-4) and its holding up great... >11k miles on it, and I've cut multiple 2.0 60' times at different tracks, with the stock tires.

ss sounds like it'll be a player...now Ford needs to step up!

According to GM they said the Saturn Redline runs 14.5 in the quarter mile, and the cobalt SS will run 2 tenths slower therfore it will be 14.7. But Sport Compact Car says the Redline runs 15.2 at sea level. Other magazines tested the Redline and ran anywhere from 15.0 to 15.5. So my opinion is that GM is over reting their performance times. Whats up with that?

Not really anything wrong with the cars, the only time you gonna see good times is when the lazy Red Line owners go to the track instead of making videos of their cars. rip a 2.0 60ft then you will see what they are capable of.

Magazine testing usually nets them 2.3+ 60ft short times. they test on streets not well preppared. Also the faster to the 1/8th the better the 1/4 will be.

I did not know hopping the tires was that bad. I guess Ill have to watch it. Maybe thats why I need a frontend alignment at 12k miles.

Yah, wheelhop is a good way to break axles, diffs, etc. Very hard on the car.

I've read 14.5-14.7 in a lot of magazines. These 15.2-15.5 runs people heard of make no sense. In my old car (that just got written off) the best I did was a 15.2 @88.92MPH. It was a 2003 Alero with the 5-speed and ecotec engine. I only had a CAI, Catback exhaust and lowering springins on it.
We have very low elevation here at the tracks around toronto and I am sure with few or no mods the SS will be in the 13's. And all those SRT-4's may be quicker, but the other 99.9% of the time when they are not at the track and driving there cloth seated, Neon interior cars, I'll be enjoying my leather and upgraded interior.

I agree with that, seems like most of the stock SRT4's are running 14.0's and the ones that actually hit the 13.7 mark stock had 60ft times that were in the 2.0 range.

I've hit several 13.7's between 99 and 103.1 :eek: mph in a stock 03 on the stock tires with just(albeit low) 2.1 60ft times.

It's a combination of not bogging the launch, power(WOT)shifting, and taking it to redline every gear but being careful not to touch the soft fuel cut-off.

I've also had a few 2.0x 60fts too on the stockers. :D
-Jason

And all those SRT-4's may be quicker, but the other 99.9% of the time when they are not at the track and driving there cloth seated, Neon interior cars, I'll be enjoying my leather and upgraded interior.

I think the definition of "grasping for straws" is saying you bought your Chevy for its luxury! :rolleyes:
And by the way, do some homework dashmolester, you say something incorrect and stupid every other post. Have fun molesting your dash as I put 8 cars on you in a 1/4 mile while STOCK at the dragstrip.

-Jason

I think the definition of "grasping for straws" is saying you bought your Chevy for its luxury! :rolleyes:
And by the way, do some homework dashmolester, you say something incorrect and stupid every other post. Have fun molesting your dash as I put 8 cars on you in a 1/4 mile while STOCK at the dragstrip.

-Jason

Not to interupt this love fest, but when thinking luxury chevy doesn't come to mind although the SS interior is 10 times better then the neons. And for putting 8 cars on someone, I dont think so unless someone races their RV.

everyone chill and just enjoy talking about cars no need for the bashing, even though its alota fun.

I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe the Cobalt SS will be capable of 13's even with slicks. The 98mph trap speed is impressive, and an indication of hp and potential, but it is also an indication of gearing and other variables.

To look at a 98mph trap and decide this car is even very low 14 second capable is a stretch. The rest of the math simply does not add up unless this car is seriously under-rated which does not seem to be the case.

I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe the Cobalt SS will be capable of 13's even with slicks. The 98mph trap speed is impressive, and an indication of hp and potential, but it is also an indication of gearing and other variables.

To look at a 98mph trap and decide this car is even very low 14 second capable is a stretch. The rest of the math simply does not add up unless this car is seriously under-rated which does not seem to be the case.
205whp is not too shabby if you ask me. and to think most of the broken in ION Red Lines are now pushing 210whp.

whats that...240 crank hp?. Yeah enough for 97-98 mph. I bet slicks and better exhaust manifold with an intake and the car will run 13's.

i hope the clutch in the cobalt isnt as shitty as the clutch in the scrapalier feels...all mushy and shit

Well, if it's like the Redline, then there's gonna be this huge range where the clutch is completely disengaged. The clutch pedal allows for too much extra (and unneeded) movement.

I prefer to have my clutch start engaging when I move my foot 2 millimeters up from depressing the pedal entirely.


205whp is not too shabby if you ask me. and to think most of the broken in ION Red Lines are now pushing 210whp.

whats that...240 crank hp?. Yeah enough for 97-98 mph. I bet slicks and better exhaust manifold with an intake and the car will run 13's.

Yeah, I hear the engine is underrated. I guess that's cool but the 14.5 times doesn't really reflect that. I personally think it the time should be lower. Is there something holding it back? Like wind resistance? The 18" rims? Rotational inertia can hurt quite a bit. A 20" rim would require more energy to move than a 15" weighing the same (assume that tire weight is the same and overall diameter is the same, not that it matters).

On a whole different note, I think the 1/4 mile is stupid. It doesn't take a long time to become a decent/good driver at only driving in a straight. The learning curve increases significantly when you've got to downshift and take turns. Hell, I spun out just 2 days ago (no ice/water either).

I think it takes quite a bit of skill to run a fast 1/4 mile.. it takes some balls

not to lift to shift ;)


in my tt stealth.. I'd launch at about 4k-5k rpms, and slip the shit out of the clutch to get the best run + 60ft times.. if the clutch wasnt smoking after a run... it wasn't driven hard enough!!!


i've never done any scaa stuff (yet).. that looks alot harder on the car (brakes/tranny/tires/etc)... always wanted to try it though...

even if the car runs low 14's.. that still awesome.. think about what some of the other sport cars run.. 350z... rx-8...ahah 2004 GTO!!.. think of some of the older turbo cars (eclipse turbo) hell even some of the twin turbo cars weren't much faster (stealth...supra) stock... technology is just amazing!

On a whole different note, I think the 1/4 mile is stupid. It doesn't take a long time to become a decent/good driver at only driving in a straight. The learning curve increases significantly when you've got to downshift and take turns. Hell, I spun out just 2 days ago (no ice/water either).
I like the adrenalin rush of doing over 120mph in a short distance :)

I do like Auto-x, drag racing, and even road courses. I have done all of them.
I take it you haven't driven a 400whp+ car at the strip and almost lost the front end due to torque steer. It's fun....

Not so easy once the power goes up...

I think it takes quite a bit of skill to run a fast 1/4 mile.. it takes some balls

not to lift to shift ;)

One thing I noticed in the Pursuit... The throws were huge when I was shifting... It wasn't so bad in the Ion RL though. After my Pursuit test drive when I went to shift, I yanked my shifter harder than usual forgetting that mine only moves a tiny fraction of what I experienced in the Pursuit. Anyway, if the throws are shorter for the Cobalt SS then that's an excellent improvement.


Anyway, where are these SS times coming from? Are we speculating? Who actually has access to an SS at this time? I heard they were delayed until mid summer.

I like the adrenalin rush of doing over 120mph in a short distance :)

I do like Auto-x, drag racing, and even road courses. I have done all of them.
I take it you haven't driven a 400whp+ car at the strip and almost lost the front end due to torque steer. It's fun....

Not so easy once the power goes up...

Nope, haven't driven a car that powerful but I know torque steer... I wish I had an LSD... :(

Ignore the first really long post, its just a funny story. Check out his time slips and his very few mods!!!!

13.953 @ 101.59 (http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888&page=1&pp=10)

i in NO way wana sound like an ass but...

do you really expect me to read all that shit!?..goddamn! :eek:

:D

Yea I understand, thats what I meant when I said to skip the long post.
If you scroll down, the timeslip is either at the bottom of the first page or somewhere on the second page. I think its on the second page; it shows his reaction, 60', 1/8, 1/4, trap speed and more. It really impressed me!

Sport Compact Car magazine said they'd expect the Cobalt to duplicate the Redlines 7.1 0-60 and 15.3 quarter at 94 mph. Who said this thing would run 14.1 stock??

You can enjoy your interior while i'm enjoying my 5.3 0-60 and gobs of torque. (274 ft/lbs at the wheels to be exact)

Sport Compact Car magazine said they'd expect the Cobalt to duplicate the Redlines 7.1 0-60 and 15.3 quarter at 94 mph. Who said this thing would run 14.1 stock??

You can enjoy your interior while i'm enjoying my 5.3 0-60 and gobs of torque. (274 ft/lbs at the wheels to be exact)


You can magazine race all day but I guarantee the 1/4 is much lower than a 15 anything with a LSD and/or a capable driver. I know my Red Line is.

Sport Compact Car magazine said they'd expect the Cobalt to duplicate the Redlines 7.1 0-60 and 15.3 quarter at 94 mph. Who said this thing would run 14.1 stock??

You can enjoy your interior while i'm enjoying my 5.3 0-60 and gobs of torque. (274 ft/lbs at the wheels to be exact)

Sport Compact Car is a bunch of Morons... they also say that a S2000 has a 6+ second 0-60, the Redline as a 7.1 0-60, and we all know that both those numbers are WAYYY off. If you get your info from that mag, good luck to you. I would suggest taking info from the blind kid down the street before I would trust their numbers anymore. There is no way that anyone who has been driving a Redline for 1 day could launch it right, or even close to right. I'm still learning 3 months later.

You can enjoy your 'gobs' of torque. BTW, 274 is far from gobs, 400-500 is starting to get up there. Your 274lbs would be laughed off any serious race track on race day. Against other 4-bangers, you have some torque.

Enjoy your gobs of torque, while I enjoy my superior handling and braking, you can browse SCC and see what their numbers are. Oh, and enjoy that 'stout' transmission they decided to put behind it. Did you catch the road rally last week where the SRT blew out second gear by day 2? I would assume not. You're driving a Neon, not a Ferrari. Maybe you should do some checking into that crap Mitsu drivetrain that you've got there. I'm sure you won't be smiling.

Enjoy rolling down your rear windows in your car too. What a dumb feature...

somebody's gettin roasted... by everybody, did I miss somethin???

Yeah I see dipshit's reark now. dumb ass tool. and um SRT-4's DO NOT put out 274 ft/lbs at the weels stock! I don't care who you are or what you say. Ive got a close friend who has one so don't tell me that I dont know cause I haven't driven one. And as far as modified goes, the ecotec platform has WAAAAAYYYY more potential than the non variable valve timing 2.4L in the SRT-4. I've said it before and I'll say it again: shit even HYUNDAI has variable valve timing now! The only thing it has goin for it is its larger displacement and its turbo. And if YOU wanna get into magazine racing then let US get into statistics: Power per liter isn't that impressive. People have already done the math if an SRT-4 was a 2.0L it would only put out about 192 hp, and thats on CLAIMED hp. The Redlines are actually putting down around 210 or better at the wheels(I've seen 213hp)...STOCK on a 2L. And I've seen dynos that have shown a stock SRT-4 only puttin out about 218 hp to the wheels. And yeah the handling of an SRT-4 compared to the GM's... you might as well go but a New Beetle 1.8T.

Yeah I see dipshit's reark now. dumb ass tool. and um SRT-4's DO NOT put out 274 ft/lbs at the weels stock! I don't care who you are or what you say. Ive got a close friend who has one so don't tell me that I dont know cause I haven't driven one. And as far as modified goes, the ecotec platform has WAAAAAYYYY more potential than the non variable valve timing 2.4L in the SRT-4. I've said it before and I'll say it again: shit even HYUNDAI has variable valve timing now! The only thing it has goin for it is its larger displacement and its turbo. And if YOU wanna get into magazine racing then let US get into statistics: Power per liter isn't that impressive. People have already done the math if an SRT-4 was a 2.0L it would only put out about 192 hp, and thats on CLAIMED hp. The Redlines are actually putting down around 210 or better at the wheels(I've seen 213hp)...STOCK on a 2L. And I've seen dynos that have shown a stock SRT-4 only puttin out about 218 hp to the wheels. And yeah the handling of an SRT-4 compared to the GM's... you might as well go but a New Beetle 1.8T.
well in reality I have dynoed over 20 SRT's and all the 2004's with the LSD do put out between 248wtq-256wtq and that just some from the dyno pulls we have on the stock ones.

The A55 engine(SRT-4) is very stout and is very reliable as we have found out on our own car with 53k on it and only thing that went bad on the car itself was the CV joint on the weaker 2003 axle.

As of right now the SRT-4 A55 engine has an edge being that it has .4 more displacement and it has a turbo.

I am still waitiing on the Ecotec powered cars to reach 400+whp on stock internals. Will it hold up? could be but they hurt the thing with the higher compression. (SRT-4 is a very low 8.0:1).

Possibly, if i do get an ecotec powered car i will put it to the test. It will take a bit more to get power out of it though as it has drive by wire, higher compression and small injectors.

My plans will call for turbocharging though :)

Anything can be made better regardless of what car we talk about. the new Global engine by mitsubishi/chrysler/hyundai seem to be coming out within the next year or so and that will be VVT.

Point taken but thats still 20 ft/lbs BELOW what he's claimin!!!!!

P.S. that engine was initially designed by Hyundai.

I don't think Danthar is stock.

He may not be stock, and if he's not then thats all good BUT that makes his point IRRELEVANT because we were talking about STOCK vehicles not modified. Hell once the Cobalts get out in full swing I would almost guarantee that you could put near those numbers in torque and OVER 300 hp TO THE WHEELS without even going into the engine, just bolt ons. A full exhaust system (header back) and ported intake manifold/throttle body (although the TB could be tricky being drive by wire), up the boost and reflash the ECU. Anybody can modify their car and I understand that the SRT-4 outpowers the SS in stock form but like Spooner said that power aint gonna get him around a tight corner, maybe into the wall of that corner but nothin better from just that power. Racing isn't all accelerating when it comes to a road course. I know the SRT-4 can handle fairly well but not near as good as an SS or RL. Personally, handling wise, NeonRT99, I would rather have an RT, like yours, or an ACR in the older body style (I think 99 was the last year) and in coupe form.

P.S. Hey Nivo, I've got the new Popular Hotrodding and it says that even though you can have the pedal to the floor in the Cobalts... the TB butterfly isn't all the way open (I think it was PH where I read that.) Its called torque management or something, said gettin rid of the torque man. would help a good deal. Whats up with that?? Anybody have thoughts on that? Think the aftermarket will have a way to open it up fully or maybe even GM? I would think it would have somethin to do with the computer bein drive by wire.

They already have Ecotecs making 400hp on the stock internals, seach the web. They already have a 272hp version of the Cobalt, and if you look online hard enough you can find the 'pre-production' part numbers for them through the SCCA. The 272 hp version didn't even work the engine, just the computer, intake, exhaust, s/c pulley, and such. Do a search for Cobalt 272 on here even, it's in one of the other forums. The next rendition of the 2.2(?) Ecotecs have variable valve timing, (uh-oh imports, Vtech from the General). Torque is great, but horsepower still is the main measurement, there are Ecotecs (Redline/Cobalt) that are putting 210whp down, with a smaller engine and no aftermarket support.

So what are we arguing here? Quarter mile times? Well, since there aren't any people that own a Cobalt SS here, it's pretty pointless huh? The Redline's are getting low 14's, and one claimed 13.9. I doubt the 13.9 happened since he had no timeslip and never really came back to our board after his claim. Low 14's are coming in all over though, with NO LSD. We just had the first person install the LSD for the Redline and he's going to the track this weekend. He's not a 1/4 mile guy though, so we can't promise a drag strip time slip for one.

The real problem here, is a forum dominated by members that don't even own the car that the forum is about. That's fine if you're waiting to get the car, but everything is speculation. People here with your SRT-4 Neons, take a pill. Just because you have good torque for a sport compact, does not make you 'magical'. It means that Mitsu/Dodge got desperate and put a detuned Evo engine (or uptuned Eclipse engine) into a Neon, called it something else, and everyone that bought it let it go straight to the skull. At least you were smart enough to buy it, and not be put off by the fact that it's a Neon. Most people here were, and wouldn't admit it. I myself, am a GM guy and will buy GM products until I can't find a suitable one. It was almost the SRT-4. Torque is a meaningless number all on it's own. The GM EV1 Electric car put out almost 300 lbs of torque too, big whoop. I drive a 600lbs of torque car some days too, it's Dodge Cummins Diesel, and you'd blow it's doors off with anything faster than a Honda Insight.

What's with all this bashing on the SRT?? I just found out that a member of ours just took first place in the first USTCC of the season at Fontana speedway. So what's with all the bashing?? Oh, and yes, a Cobalt SS and WRX was also included in this event as well. Just wanted to shine in, and still waiting to see a Cobalt on the street. Not that I'm looking for a street race.... Just want to admire another competition to my car.

What's with all this bashing on the SRT?? I just found out that a member of ours just took first place in the first USTCC of the season at Fontana speedway. So what's with all the bashing?? Oh, and yes, a Cobalt SS and WRX was also included in this event as well. Just wanted to shine in, and still waiting to see a Cobalt on the street. Not that I'm looking for a street race.... Just want to admire another competition to my car.

Who's bashing the Neon? I'm sure not. I believe it really got out of hand when someone started 'refering to their gobs of torque', and how it was basically superior in everyway to the Cobalt. If he wants to start pointing out flaws though, he needs to check again. They all have them. From the SRT's leaking boost, coming with bad throttle position sensor harnesses, 'stout' transmissions that don't seem to be up to the description, weak axles in early ones, I could go on with more just from the SRTForums. The Redline with it's bad Sensor seal, glitchy ECM tuning, trunks that scratch the bumper, and brake pads that gouge the rotors. You can list em off for every car. Even Hondas, Acura, Chevy, Ford, Audi, etc, etc, etc.

Man, I though for a minute I was on the SRTForums. What's with all you guys waiting in all these forums for someone to say they don't like the paint color of the SRT and you guys rolling them gangster style? I though we were bad about our Saturns at the other forum, then I go into the SRTForums, and I've never seen such a closed-minded group of people. You would think that you're all driving Ferraris, modified ones. Until you hit the problems section, then it looks like every other car and car forum. Why does it seem like every thread on here ends up being about some car other than the Cobalt? I feel bad about refering to my Redline all the time and they're the same damn car, so it's the best I can offer.

Who's bashing the Neon? I'm sure not. I believe it really got out of hand when someone started 'refering to their gobs of torque', and how it was basically superior in everyway to the Cobalt. If he wants to start pointing out flaws though, he needs to check again. They all have them. From the SRT's leaking boost, coming with bad throttle position sensor harnesses, 'stout' transmissions that don't seem to be up to the description, weak axles in early ones, I could go on with more just from the SRTForums. The Redline with it's bad Sensor seal, glitchy ECM tuning, trunks that scratch the bumper, and brake pads that gouge the rotors. You can list em off for every car. Even Hondas, Acura, Chevy, Ford, Audi, etc, etc, etc.

Man, I though for a minute I was on the SRTForums. What's with all you guys waiting in all these forums for someone to say they don't like the paint color of the SRT and you guys rolling them gangster style? I though we were bad about our Saturns at the other forum, then I go into the SRTForums, and I've never seen such a closed-minded group of people. You would think that you're all driving Ferraris, modified ones. Until you hit the problems section, then it looks like every other car and car forum. Why does it seem like every thread on here ends up being about some car other than the Cobalt? I feel bad about refering to my Redline all the time and they're the same damn car, so it's the best I can offer.

Very well said, every car has it's problem, no car is perfect. But the reason why there are a lot of SRT owners here, is because this website is consider a sister website to the SRTForums. So from there, we're advise to check out this website as well. So what better site to check out then the compitition for our cars. But you are right, most of the guys on that website does think a lot for the kind of cars that they have. I have no problem admitting that my car is just a neon.

I know this is out of the topic, but anybody knows what's the 1/4 mile for a 2005 RSX type-S

nope not me??? :confused:

Very well said, every car has it's problem, no car is perfect. But the reason why there are a lot of SRT owners here, is because this website is consider a sister website to the SRTForums. So from there, we're advise to check out this website as well. So what better site to check out then the compitition for our cars. But you are right, most of the guys on that website does think a lot for the kind of cars that they have. I have no problem admitting that my car is just a neon.

Well, the problem there is that all these websites are 'linked'. The CobaltSS, SRT, and Redline formus are all together. I have no problem with people that own other cars on other forums, it's a free country! People with SRT's should think alot of their cars, so should Cobalt owners, and so should Redline owners. The fact that they all compete together is what brings out the arguments and the debates. I have an us vs. them mentality when it comes to domestic vs. import cars. I am surely in the minority on this one, on these boards. I think we should all get along, if people want to flame, bring it on. I can back up anything I say with facts, or be man enough to admit when I'm bested, even if I don't think I'm wrong. I drive a Saturn, there's nothing that can be said about my car that hasn't already been said by someone else, probably in a more original way. I also drive a Saturn that will smoke any car for the same price. You drive a Neon, one that will smoke anything that's even close to it's price in a flat out run. I also know what my car can't do. It's not as fast as an SRT-4 in a pure speed contest, especially a stage 1 or 2. I promise you though, either the Cobalt or the Ion will eat through a road course, bone stock. The SRT will too, but the handling and braking are not quite as good. Even with the SRT's better stock tires and LSD. Very close, but not as good, particuarly when the test numbers are put away and the actual track time starts. Unfortunately for us, we're all stock. The first wave of products are just rolling off the lines, we hope! Intakes, piggyback controlers, supercharger upgrades, suspension, brakes, etc. They're coming, but we have to wait. According to Saturn, through one of our forums guys, there is ONE Redline in the entire country at this point, that has a limited slip unit installed.

Well, the problem there is that all these websites are 'linked'. The CobaltSS, SRT, and Redline formus are all together. I have no problem with people that own other cars on other forums, it's a free country! People with SRT's should think alot of their cars, so should Cobalt owners, and so should Redline owners. The fact that they all compete together is what brings out the arguments and the debates. I have an us vs. them mentality when it comes to domestic vs. import cars. I am surely in the minority on this one, on these boards. I think we should all get along, if people want to flame, bring it on. I can back up anything I say with facts, or be man enough to admit when I'm bested, even if I don't think I'm wrong. I drive a Saturn, there's nothing that can be said about my car that hasn't already been said by someone else, probably in a more original way. I also drive a Saturn that will smoke any car for the same price. You drive a Neon, one that will smoke anything that's even close to it's price in a flat out run. I also know what my car can't do. It's not as fast as an SRT-4 in a pure speed contest, especially a stage 1 or 2. I promise you though, either the Cobalt or the Ion will eat through a road course, bone stock. The SRT will too, but the handling and braking are not quite as good. Even with the SRT's better stock tires and LSD. Very close, but not as good, particuarly when the test numbers are put away and the actual track time starts. Unfortunately for us, we're all stock. The first wave of products are just rolling off the lines, we hope! Intakes, piggyback controlers, supercharger upgrades, suspension, brakes, etc. They're coming, but we have to wait. According to Saturn, through one of our forums guys, there is ONE Redline in the entire country at this point, that has a limited slip unit installed.

I'm with you on the us vs. them deal. Not that I have anything against imports, its just that domestics need to establish a better name in the sport compact market. And I think the perfect trio to do so is the SRT-4, RL, and the long anticipated SS. :D

They already have Ecotecs making 400hp on the stock internals, seach the web. They already have a 272hp version of the Cobalt, and if you look online hard enough you can find the 'pre-production' part numbers for them through the SCCA. The 272 hp version didn't even work the engine, just the computer, intake, exhaust, s/c pulley, and such. Do a search for Cobalt 272 on here even, it's in one of the other forums. The next rendition of the 2.2(?) Ecotecs have variable valve timing, (uh-oh imports, Vtech from the General). Torque is great, but horsepower still is the main measurement, there are Ecotecs (Redline/Cobalt) that are putting 210whp down, with a smaller engine and no aftermarket support.

So what are we arguing here? Quarter mile times? Well, since there aren't any people that own a Cobalt SS here, it's pretty pointless huh? The Redline's are getting low 14's, and one claimed 13.9. I doubt the 13.9 happened since he had no timeslip and never really came back to our board after his claim. Low 14's are coming in all over though, with NO LSD. We just had the first person install the LSD for the Redline and he's going to the track this weekend. He's not a 1/4 mile guy though, so we can't promise a drag strip time slip for one.

The real problem here, is a forum dominated by members that don't even own the car that the forum is about. That's fine if you're waiting to get the car, but everything is speculation. People here with your SRT-4 Neons, take a pill. Just because you have good torque for a sport compact, does not make you 'magical'. It means that Mitsu/Dodge got desperate and put a detuned Evo engine (or uptuned Eclipse engine) into a Neon, called it something else, and everyone that bought it let it go straight to the skull. At least you were smart enough to buy it, and not be put off by the fact that it's a Neon. Most people here were, and wouldn't admit it. I myself, am a GM guy and will buy GM products until I can't find a suitable one. It was almost the SRT-4. Torque is a meaningless number all on it's own. The GM EV1 Electric car put out almost 300 lbs of torque too, big whoop. I drive a 600lbs of torque car some days too, it's Dodge Cummins Diesel, and you'd blow it's doors off with anything faster than a Honda Insight.

You are an IDIOT! Just because an SRT owner pissed you off, you have to bash all of US. That's right, I own one of those NEONS also. I like all cars except for a Focus(no offense to focus owners). The Cobalt is an awesome machine. I really like it. I just don't like the drivers!!! There are plenty of SRT idiots also. Just ignor them. BTW, Torque is not a meaningless number, ask anyone that has a brain cell left. Peace!

Well I think he mant by itself. If you have a car that puts out 300ft/lbs and only 85hp its gonna be pretty slow. It might beat my S-10 LOL!!! :D

Oh and don't stereotype all Cobalt owners by what he typed. He's a RL owner anyways, same car however. I don't think that he meant anything as an insult, I think there was just a few guys get cocky because their cars are faster than SS's and RL's from the factory. Well in that case, my only argument is STOCK SUCKS!!!! We just don't appreciate other people coming to our forum and getting cocky. Especially when we don't even have our cars yet. If you read other posts then you'll realize that alot of people on here have much respect for the SRT. I myself included, I love the cars actually, but I'm just a GM kinda guy and thats why I am awaiting the arrival of the SS. And I appreciate you being honest about your oppinion of the SS, you have my respect for saying that you like a car that you don't drive. That is something that people with ego issues cant do. They rag on other cars just to make themselves feel better about their car. And yes there are gonna be people like that who drive anything from Geo's to Vette's and Viper's. You just have to take em with a grain of salt and ignore them.

Spooner's a really cool guy, I really think you just misunderstood him. He knows the SRT-4s are faster than his car stock for stock but everybody on here also knows that you can make any econobox outrun a higher performance car if you've got the time, money, and know how. Personally the main thing I look for in a car is potential. But of course factory performance helps as well. ;)

And try not to give Spooner a hard time I dont think he meant any harm

Well I think he mant by itself. If you have a car that puts out 300ft/lbs and only 85hp its gonna be pretty slow. It might beat my S-10 LOL!!! :D

Oh and don't stereotype all Cobalt owners by what he typed. He's a RL owner anyways, same car however. I don't think that he meant anything as an insult, I think there was just a few guys get cocky because their cars are faster than SS's and RL's from the factory. Well in that case, my only argument is STOCK SUCKS!!!! We just don't appreciate other people coming to our forum and getting cocky. Especially when we don't even have our cars yet. If you read other posts then you'll realize that alot of people on here have much respect for the SRT. I myself included, I love the cars actually, but I'm just a GM kinda guy and thats why I am awaiting the arrival of the SS. And I appreciate you being honest about your oppinion of the SS, you have my respect for saying that you like a car that you don't drive. That is something that people with ego issues cant do. They rag on other cars just to make themselves feel better about their car. And yes there are gonna be people like that who drive anything from Geo's to Vette's and Viper's. You just have to take em with a grain of salt and ignore them.

Spooner's a really cool guy, I really think you just misunderstood him. He knows the SRT-4s are faster than his car stock for stock but everybody on here also knows that you can make any econobox outrun a higher performance car if you've got the time, money, and know how. Personally the main thing I look for in a car is potential. But of course factory performance helps as well. ;)

And try not to give Spooner a hard time I dont think he meant any harm

No beef intended, and I know this thread is really off-topic now, but we have 20,000 members on our forums and there is always car bashing going on. Many don't own an SRT and they only come there to start shit. I come to your forums to learn about your cars. The comment he made about why do we come to your forums was rediculous. That's why EKOOL has or will have a Cobalt OC. That will weed out the riff raff because most people won't pay to just to talk shit.
On the other hand, I can't wait to see a Cobalt SS in person. I saw what I think was a Redline for the first time today. We have a new Lotus Elise in our neighborhood but no domestic tuners. That really sux. What are the Cobalt SS's release dates?
-Eric-

No beef intended, and I know this thread is really off-topic now, but we have 20,000 members on our forums and there is always car bashing going on. Many don't own an SRT and they only come there to start shit. I come to your forums to learn about your cars. The comment he made about why do we come to your forums was rediculous. That's why EKOOL has or will have a Cobalt OC. That will weed out the riff raff because most people won't pay to just to talk shit.
On the other hand, I can't wait to see a Cobalt SS in person. I saw what I think was a Redline for the first time today. We have a new Lotus Elise in our neighborhood but no domestic tuners. That really sux. What are the Cobalt SS's release dates?
-Eric-
Nobody really knows.. they are SLOOOOWWLY leaking into dealers. Oh and what is an OC???

Nobody really knows.. they are SLOOOOWWLY leaking into dealers. Oh and what is an OC???

Owners Club. We have www.srtforums.com and www.srtoc.com. We have our members only section in the forums that non members can't access. It keeps the trolls out. We had to pay 30 bones to join. With that you get 2 license plate things, stickers and business cards with the web site. There are close to 1000 members in our OC. EKOOL isn't doing too bad. He runs our site also. Send him a PM, he should be able to tell you when the OC will be available.

Lets keep it on topic. there are a few of them out there and some people like breaking their cars in nicely.

it will be soon once we see 1/4 mile times with MPH.

Owners Club. We have www.srtforums.com and www.srtoc.com. We have our members only section in the forums that non members can't access. It keeps the trolls out. We had to pay 30 bones to join. With that you get 2 license plate things, stickers and business cards with the web site. There are close to 1000 members in our OC. EKOOL isn't doing too bad. He runs our site also. Send him a PM, he should be able to tell you when the OC will be available.

Keep in mind, I have nothing to do with the OC at all. It is run by a non profit organization with elected officials (which I am not one of) and all the hosting features I donate and eat the expense on.

Owners Club. We have www.srtforums.com and www.srtoc.com. We have our members only section in the forums that non members can't access. It keeps the trolls out. We had to pay 30 bones to join. With that you get 2 license plate things, stickers and business cards with the web site. There are close to 1000 members in our OC. EKOOL isn't doing too bad. He runs our site also. Send him a PM, he should be able to tell you when the OC will be available.
Thanx for the info. That's a good idea.

Has anyone heard what a Cobalt SS w/LSD will run a 1/4 mile in?

You are an IDIOT! Just because an SRT owner pissed you off, you have to bash all of US. That's right, I own one of those NEONS also. I like all cars except for a Focus(no offense to focus owners). The Cobalt is an awesome machine. I really like it. I just don't like the drivers!!! There are plenty of SRT idiots also. Just ignor them. BTW, Torque is not a meaningless number, ask anyone that has a brain cell left. Peace!

I am far from an idiot. Believe you me. Perhaps the fact that you own a Neon SRT makes it a little hard for you to see the trolls that are on our forums. Go check the Redline ones. All it takes is one mention of the SRT, in anything other than a shiny, happy, glowing review. All of a sudden, dozens of SRT owners hit their keyboards. Go look at the Redline forums where people just hop in, claim that they blew the doors of a Redline without shifting higher than 4,000 rpms. After about 90 days of the same cycle, you get a little on edge with the group that is giving you problems.

BTW, torque, by itself, is a meaningless number. The GM EV1 electric car put out more than 250lbs of torque. Diesel engines put out HUGE amounts of torque. There are dozens of GM diesels that put out 150hp, yet 600lbs of torque. HP is the measurement of torque produced over the RPM range, not just a statement of peak torque. Peak torque means very little, unless coupled with a repectable HP number. Meaning that the engine can continue to produce useable power over a large range of engine speeds.

You're an idiot for jumping into an arguement that you obviously don't even understand, or have been involved with at all. In fact, you're simply adding to my point that one bad mention of an SRT is met with an army of fanatics. Thanks!

Has anyone heard what a Cobalt SS w/LSD will run a 1/4 mile in?



Anyone........ :)

approx. 14.5 is what mags are claiming, but I think it will lower once people get used to their own cars!!

well we can't go by magazines... They had LS1 f-bodies at 13.8-14.0... The fastest recorded E.t. for a bone stock LS1 is 12.89... So go figure...

well this is what ive found so far havent seen any 14's besides what ppl have posted

15.42 @ 96.98

May 2005 Motor Trend: 14.4 @99mph

Anyone........ :)

I dunno if any SS/SC with the LSD have been delivered yet.

My car should be delivered around June 1. It will have the LSD. It will not have a sunroof or OnStar. It will have the Recaro's as well. I will be adding competition Weld Wheels w/drag slicks, Eibach springs, Larger sway bars and adjustable coil overs. Also, aftermarket exhaust and a carbon fiber hood. I am pulling the back seats as well. I am also getting a trunk lid without the wing (extra). The car is black. Of course limo black tint.
Yes, the car will be raced at several tracks. That is why I bought it. So, yes I plan on 13's. And no, I don't car about resale.

I wish I had half your money, LOL!

dude you are hilarious. I never said I was stock. I have 4 bolt ons which are a MBC(boost controller), CAI, adjustable WGA, and an aftermarket DP. I don't know where all that aggression is coming from. I think it is funny really.

I'd say the transmission is pretty stout since there are tons of cars running 400+ hp and making plenty of runs down the dragstrip with NO problems. And yes 274 is gobs of torque for a mildly modded 4 cyl which is what we are talking about here. I think the Cobalt is cool looking. With a cool looking interior. It will be pretty quick. So whats the problem??

Cobalts will just be playing catch up with us SRT's is all I was saying. We have more power from the factory so start at a higher level power wise. I ran a 8.4 sec 1/8th @83mph today on slicks. I dont think Cobalts will be able to thow on a couple bolt ons and run these kind of times. But they are cool in there on right. It is just a different kind of car than the SRT.

Guess what??? I know I drive a Neon. I dont care that the interior is not that great. I'm glad my rear windows aren't power....it saves weight. When I am at the track or on the street and beating V8's we dont get out and compare interiors and say....."well you blew my doors off but my seats are bitchin".

No we were NOT talkin about mildly modded 4cyl's we were talkin about the COBALT SS's STOCK 4 cyl! Nothin to do with a mildly modded SRT-4. And no, 274 is not gobs of torque in ANYTHING. Any modern day V8 will destroy that in torque STOCK! If you wanna compare apple to oranges then go race a mildly modded Camaro SS (who will be puttin down WAY over 350ft/lbs AT THE WHEELS NA EASY! and ran mid to low 13's stock not mid to high 13's- and thats still not anything to brag about) Its like my favorite quote ever about the latest F-bodies "Hitting over 400 hp and ft/lbs at the wheels on an LS1 is easier than hittin water when you fall out of a boat!" There's your apples to oranges comparison. Now if you wanna compare stock vehicles, then a mag (Motor Trend I believe) recently did a vs. test on the SRT-4 and the Cobalt SS and, yes, they said the SRT-4 out accelerated the SS, BUT even though the SS is overpowered by the SRT-4, it STILL ran a faster track time on a road course than the SRT-4 did! Don't forget all racing isn't a straight line. Racers that just race straight lines and brag about their cars doin it are the ones that are too scared to hit a corner at high speeds.

The aggression comes from people whoring threads and dissin other peoples cars cause they are different. And yes the Ecotec motor has AT LEAST as much potential as your Turbo 2.4L DOHC...

I guess its not a lot of torque since you have to compare it to V8's? :rolleyes:
I guess you don't watch speed channel much. SCCA T2 runoffs last year.....do you know what was leading a race full of Porsche boxters, Camaros, Caddilac CTS-Vs, 350Zs, Redlines, RX-8s, Firebirds, Mustangs etc etc etc. An SRT-4. After Fernandez passed TC Kline in his 350z in the last couple laps for 1st TC rammed him off track. So I guess SRT-4 must be a horrible handling car. But if you want to "magazine" race go ahead.

I thought "magazine" racing was bad when I was doing it right??

And I know the ECotec has tons of potetial. I just said you're not going to throw on a couple bolt ons and run as fast. Give you guys 2 years worth of aftermarket like us SRT's have had and I'm sure they'll be tons of fast Cobalts.

Come on man srt-4's run mid 14's motor trend said so. :)

Actually they are blasting 13s. But who is magazine racing? I gave one example where each car did better in one of two tests. I mainly said stuff about cars that I have PERSONALLY had experience with. And wow, Im impressed that an SRT-4 beat a budget Porsche, honestly it was probably an automatic. I didn't say they didn't have potential, I was just emphasizing the fact that they ARE NOT the be all/end all of cars that you are makin it out to be. I've got a friend with an SRT-4 and its a nice car, I love it! Im not talkin trash about SRT-4s, they just aren't the best out there. Far from it to be accurate. And also SCCA races are generally VERY tight races, hence VERY not fast speeds (not upwards of 90).

boy, i dont know where to start. A budget Porsche??? You just lost any shred of credibility you had. The cars in the SCCA T2 runoffs are top notch cars. Yes it was a Boxter S and not a 911. But it certainly was a manual. The cars are driven by some of the best drivers in the country. And they were at Mid-Ohio road course which has long straights getting to 100+ plus slower twisty stuff. Two SRT-4's finished in the top 10 by the way.

I never said it was the end all be all car of the century or whatever. It is however the most performance you could by for the money (stock). You have to admit to lead a race full of the cars I mentioned above all of which were driven by top notch drivers is pretty impressive for a 20k car.

There are some videos of that race I'm talkin about floating around on the internet somewhere. It was one of the most exciting races I've ever watched and not just because the SRT was so competitive. If you run across it its worth a watch.

I have to say that you guys will definately be blessed with the sweet supercharger whine that the Redline has. That and the exhaust should be pretty badass sounding. I wish there were more Cobalt SS's hittin the street now. What is the hold up???

I just don't see why you guys have dumped on my car so hard.....especially some parts that are almost bullet proof like our NVG transmission. Its all internet fun and braggin though so its all good.

Get those Cobalts out and moddded so we can all show those V8 guys whats up with the 4 bangers!!

Credibility? And I need to be credible to you because... I'm sorry I didn't realize that the race was actaually professional. I have never seen one on TV. I dont watch a lot of TV at all. The only ones (with the SCCA accronym - hell I don't even know what it stands for) I have ever seen have been marked off with cones and have people drivin really fast around a parkin lot. That is why I assumed it was a regular Boxter (which I am NOT a fan of). And that is good that the SRT-4's did well. As I said Im not hatin on them, I even said I LIKED them. The only point I was getting across a while ago was the fact that we weren't even talkin about SRT-4s. And it just came across to me at the time that you were bashin on a car that you had never even seen, maybe you were maybe you weren't. If not then I apologize for myself and any others reactions, this is an attempt to stop bickering, because I consider it a waste of time. And as far as the SS's not hittin the streets, they just aren't being produced fast enough. Supply is lower than demand right now. Oh and if you like s/c whine, then check out nicholas' thread in the Picture/Media section. Again sorry if I misunderstood you.

nice
thats really good

its cool man! I love the vid of the Redline taking on the Camaro. You guys are going to surprise a lot of folks! Back on topic.

I think that the Cobalt will probably run about a 14.5 quarter. Of course throw on some slicks and probably be high 13's or low 14's. Then the mods come and the times go DOWN!!

I think w/ the LSD some people could squeeze a lil better than a 14.5. Might be able to beat that by a couple of tenths anyways. And honestly, Ive never actually seen slicks on anything but a HIGH powered V8, do they help a whole lot on FWD cars?

Slicks will have a effect because it allow the car to hook up real nice and the wheel spin will be cut down to very little if the tires are warmed up to the proper temp. Sticks will help the performance of any car off the line. RWD's, AWD's, MRD's, and RWD's all need help getting traction off of the line they all have there flaws when comeing off the line.

Sticks will help the performance of any car off the line. RWD's, AWD's, MRD's, and RWD's all need help getting traction off of the line they all have there flaws when comeing off the line.

Amen to that! Every type definitely requires it's own technique. I think I agree with mid to low 14s considering a 98 mph trap speed. But, as it was mentioned, there are other factors that weigh in. It will be really cool to see what can be done with these.

Amen to that! Every type definitely requires it's own technique. I think I agree with mid to low 14s considering a 98 mph trap speed. But, as it was mentioned, there are other factors that weigh in. It will be really cool to see what can be done with these.


Yeah i know i will all depend on what people do to them and how you drive it. And i can not wait to see what kind of traps we will see with the SS's. And i will love to see low 14's.

I understand that it will help traction and all BUT I dont know if it will help enough to hit 13s w/ no other mods.

I understand that it will help traction and all BUT I dont know if it will help enough to hit 13s w/ no other mods.


Not sure it might shave off some time but not sure if it would be enoghe to do it.

Yeah i know i will all depend on what people do to them and how you drive it. And i can not wait to see what kind of traps we will see with the SS's. And i will love to see low 14's.
I know when I went to the track a couple years ago I was talking to a guy who had one of the earlier srt4's which is like what 215HP? He ran a 14.1 with his wife in the car. That's only 10 more HP stock for stock. I guess it comes down to a good launch and how well the Cobalt flows up top. Only time will tell.

I wonder what a smaller supercharger pulley and a good air intake could do for it.

the early srt's you're talking about had smaller injectors (hence the lower hp/tq) as well as lacking an LSD.

I know when I went to the track a couple years ago I was talking to a guy who had one of the earlier srt4's which is like what 215HP? He ran a 14.1 with his wife in the car. That's only 10 more HP stock for stock. I guess it comes down to a good launch and how well the Cobalt flows up top. Only time will tell.

I wonder what a smaller supercharger pulley and a good air intake could do for it.
Thats the problem I think... Im guessin thats where they fall on their face... up top in the real high speeds! :(

Yeah it might but that is where a new intake and exhaust comes in to help with extra power and any onther mods will help to.

And bigger injectors!

03,04,05 srt have the same horsepower. dodge just upped the numbers in 2004

03,04,05 srt have the same horsepower. dodge just upped the numbers in 2004

That doesn't make sense. Are you saying that they just added the higher #'s just for stat sheet wise because there is not the same horsepower in the 03 and 04 stock srt. 03 is 215H/245T and doesn't come with the lsd and the 04 is 230H/250T. The 05 is basically the same as the 04 with the stereo unit area being a lil different and the gauge have a lil different trim.
I am not saying either years are better just correcting you.

^^^ agreed... if the numbers are the same, then why bother giving it bigger injectors in the 04 an 05?? They should have just added the LSD then

^^^ agreed... if the numbers are the same, then why bother giving it bigger injectors in the 04 an 05?? They should have just added the LSD then
Whats up cop tzer. i just joined up tonight... are u still missing the PT?

the early srt's you're talking about had smaller injectors (hence the lower hp/tq) as well as lacking an LSD.
I was only posting that for comparison purposes since the stock HP numbers were closer. That was my only point.

That doesn't make sense. Are you saying that they just added the higher #'s just for stat sheet wise because there is not the same horsepower in the 03 and 04 stock srt. 03 is 215H/245T and doesn't come with the lsd and the 04 is 230H/250T. The 05 is basically the same as the 04 with the stereo unit area being a lil different and the gauge have a lil different trim.
I am not saying either years are better just correcting you.

He is correct. The 03 had "doctored" stats in the HP department. People were dynoing at or MORE than the claimed 215hp.

The larger injectors were because of a different PCM given to the 04-05. They gave it a slightly more aggresive chart and needed the extra flow from larger injectors. Also had PCM tweaks in 05 because of said condition becoming now RICH.

Yes but thats not all 03 are doing that. In fact some 04 owners are making more than 230..Friend of mine dynoed at 239 stock. I am saying there is difference in horsepower and torque between an 03 and a 04.

only way it will go mid 13s is if it has more mods done than stock
Like the man said..With that trap, there is a mid 13 in it. Trap speeds tell the story.

ss sounds like it'll be a player...now Ford needs to step up!
They have a 300 HP focus in europe :eek:

I disagree... you dont have to burn up a clutch to get good times. It's part clutch, and part throttle. If you arent putting 100% of your power through the clutch (while its slipping) -- you wont be burning it up.

Launching is all technique.... part throtlee, part clutch, part track conditions, part luck.

I'm still on my stock clutch (in the SRT-4) and its holding up great... >11k miles on it, and I've cut multiple 2.0 60' times at different tracks, with the stock tires.
No matter what..Riding the clutch at any RPM balance is burning it up. Especially a stock clutch. Friction is friction. There is no lubricant between the disc and the flywheel.

Yes but thats not all 03 are doing that. In fact some 04 owners are making more than 230..Friend of mine dynoed at 239 stock. I am saying there is difference in horsepower and torque between an 03 and a 04.

Your friend would be consider lucky then, because to have that much hp for stock, would be consider as a freak motor. The only difference between the 03 and 04 SRT are the injectors and LSD, OSH. (Oh Shit Handles) 215 hp was underated for the 03's as you've seen some magz dyno the 03 when it first came out and was dyno at 227 hp. Chrysler only wanted to correct the hp on the car for 04. As for the PCM, it's probably the same as 03, as if you were to order stage one for an 04, all you get is another PCM, no injectors.

I saw a SS Cobalt go 9.41 last Thursday night through the 1/8th... Pretty good considering the track was hot as hell and everyone was going 1-2 1/10th off their normal time...

A srt Neon followed with a 9.38...

I wanted to see them go head-to-head but rain cut the evening short, there is always tomorrow, errr, tonight!!!

Through the 1/8th its going to be a drivers race though...

Your friend would be consider lucky then, because to have that much hp for stock, would be consider as a freak motor. The only difference between the 03 and 04 SRT are the injectors and LSD, OSH. (Oh Shit Handles) 215 hp was underated for the 03's as you've seen some magz dyno the 03 when it first came out and was dyno at 227 hp. Chrysler only wanted to correct the hp on the car for 04. As for the PCM, it's probably the same as 03, as if you were to order stage one for an 04, all you get is another PCM, no injectors.

There is still a minor difference with the bigger injectors. Many '03's dynoed in at 215-225hp, where the '04/05 are more consistent in 225-235hp. Small difference, but it's there. Stage 1 throws it out the window though. And none of that is anywhere near what DCX said for numbers. Putting that much to the wheels is effectively 245-260hp at the motor stock.

Hopefully we can get the Cobalt to the track in a few weeks. I wanna see what it's capable of once it's broken in.

I Will Be Going To Great Lakes Dragway This Weekend, Hoping For At Least A 14.9. I Had A 98 Neon R/t That Did 15.4 @ 88.7 Mph. My Ss Feels Way Faster. The Guys At Sport Compact Are Goofs. They Have Problems With Cars That Don't Have V-tech Attach To It.

I Will Be Going To Great Lakes Dragway This Weekend, Hoping For At Least A 14.9. I Had A 98 Neon R/t That Did 15.4 @ 88.7 Mph. My Ss Feels Way Faster. The Guys At Sport Compact Are Goofs. They Have Problems With Cars That Don't Have V-tech Attach To It.


Ha I'll be up their too, shooting for a 13.1 in my stock 4-banger :D

I think you'll run faster then that, you should get at least a 14.5-14.7 in my opinion. Can't wait to see this because theirs alot of hype here and know body has gone to a track.

You cant go by what car magazines say. Most of them are full of shit and have some shitie drivers. To end all this bullshit, If there is anybody in Houston that has a Cobalt SS and its stock or modified, i will be more then glad to race them, on the street and at the track.

Hey guys first post on these forums and I thought I would let you all know that Sport Compact Car does alot of their 1/4 mile testing at LACR which I go to every now and then. It is a dragstrip in case you did not know and times suck there. That is the reason they post such high numbers for alot of cars. They post the times they actually run and not a calculated or estimated time. My times are always slower by about .5 seconds at LACR so that should ease your minds a little about the 15+ second runs. I ran 14.0@101.6 bone stock in my srt-4 on street tires w/ a 2.3 60ft at Cali Speedway. I ran w/ DR's at the infamous LACR and cut a 2.0 60ft and hit a 13.8@98. That gives you an idea of how bad the two tracks out here can differ. Cali Speedway is not the greatest track either. You can have a great day there w/ calm winds and decent temps in the winter or you could have a very windy and hot day that will cause your times to suck. LACR is at 2700ft and Cali Speedway is around 1400ft above sea level I think. SCC uses both these tracks. Not the best places to do any concrete testing with but atleast it gives people an accurate idea of what they will run at these same tracks. By the way I like the SS but have never been a chevy guy. I am a mopar rider for life.