Well just a little update to those I talk to on here....
the wife has finally signed off on getting the Stage 3 kit w/ turbo toys for the SRT-4. Surprisingly it wasn't that hard. This was the first time I had even brought it up in front of her and said, "Hey babe, I think I am gonna get this by the end of the year, or no later than Jan. next year" showed her the pics and kit and she was like "go for it."
Overall I think this will be alot better performance mod for me in the long run. S3R is reliable, plug 'n play, 300+WHP daily driving and I don't have to pay to tune and run, tune and run, over and over to get everything right just for it to screw up next week.
Of course there will be other little mods here and there like, 3" turbo back exhaust, suspension, and various other small thigns but I beleive this will be my main project for the car until it is paid off. Once we both have 2 more new cars and the SRT nears the end of its engine life, I think a full rebuild for a 500HP skittle will be next. I might keep it for my daughter to drive to school... :D
So what do you guys think about S3R? Like/dislike? or just come in to shoot tha chit, that's why I put this in the off-topic room.

LOL. I love your honesty. I too am whipped by the wifey (in my case GF, soon to be)

I think it's BADASS that you're gonna get the Stg3 http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Keep us updated!!! Also, you need to give some more pics of the car.

Congrats... happy tuning!:cool:

LOL. I love your honesty. I too am whipped by the wifey (in my case GF, soon to be)

I think it's BADASS that you're gonna get the Stg3 http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cobaltss.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Keep us updated!!! Also, you need to give some more pics of the car.

Congrats... happy tuning!:cool:
Yeah whipped has it's privledges, Let me see if I can find some pics real quick....hope I haven't posted all of these before. I'll take some more tomorrow since it's been washed and waxed lately.

Pix....the new hood strut brackets are painted to match...engine bay is now cleaned a little more, new tires going on tomorrow,

Looks clean man! I wish I could get an SRT-4. I don't think I'd ever buy a USED one though, lol.

Nice car!

I expect vids... bfore AND after (of course);)

:cool:

I agree, when I decided to get this one I knew it had to be brand spanking new. I didn't want someone else doing with it what I was going to do then have to buy it afterwards. Same w/ any performance car.
Although I was thinking about buying an older wrecked SRT off of ebay and use as my project car. I saw 2 on there for around $3,500-$4,000 (price range of my stage3)
We are also thinking about getting a Charger SRT-8 after they come out. I get the SRT-8 and the wife keeps the SRT-4. Her new job next year will open alot of doors, and new toys for me.

Hmm.. I'm not a fan of the new charger, but hey, that's just me.;)

I know what you mean. My girl can't say no to me. LOL, infact, she's the spender! Anyway, having a girl who understands the bug we have is so comforting, isn't it? :D:D

Glad to hear you have some good intentions for the future of your SRT's.:cool: I so wish I could buy an SRT-4!!!!!!:o

Yeah, the SRT's are pretty bad ass, and you can't beat the factory backing of the car. If GM wanted to compete, then they sure as hell better check their definition of "competition" because they have yet to show anywhere near the desire needed to actually compete with the SRTs. To meet other RL owners in my area, we had to set it up on the forum, and only 4 showed anyways. For the SRT's, all you have to do is turn your head in one direction and you'll pobably see one. I wish sometimes I had bought one instead of this, just because of the posibilities. I'm not a fan of waiting for everything to come out years down the road. That's what really sucks about my car :(. Stage 3 is gonna be badass. Enjoy

Sweet! That rocks that you're gettin the upgrade! I just got Gran Turismo 4 and transferred my 100,000 credits and licenses over from GT3 and the first car I bought was the SRT-4 and then a Camaro SS. But that doesnt really compare now does it... :( I SWEAR I'll have a CSS one day! LOL Hey omega, dont the SRT8 Chargers come in auto trannies only, yuck! Other than that they are awesome!! But check the gas mileage on Dodges site!!! :eek:

Well just a little update to those I talk to on here....
the wife has finally signed off on getting the Stage 3 kit w/ turbo toys for the SRT-4. Surprisingly it wasn't that hard. This was the first time I had even brought it up in front of her and said, "Hey babe, I think I am gonna get this by the end of the year, or no later than Jan. next year" showed her the pics and kit and she was like "go for it."
Overall I think this will be alot better performance mod for me in the long run. S3R is reliable, plug 'n play, 300+WHP daily driving and I don't have to pay to tune and run, tune and run, over and over to get everything right just for it to screw up next week.
Of course there will be other little mods here and there like, 3" turbo back exhaust, suspension, and various other small thigns but I beleive this will be my main project for the car until it is paid off. Once we both have 2 more new cars and the SRT nears the end of its engine life, I think a full rebuild for a 500HP skittle will be next. I might keep it for my daughter to drive to school... :D
So what do you guys think about S3R? Like/dislike? or just come in to shoot tha chit, that's why I put this in the off-topic room.

I like S3R. it does its job and does it well. It will run well with alot of cars out. It does have its limitations just like the stock turbo does but its still a very fun, reliable, no fuss upgrade sure to bring MANY evil smirky grins on your face everytime you turn the key in the morning. I was going to go S3R but I want a tad more umph. Be sure to upgrade that clutch while your upgrading. The stock one will hold but not for too long. Have fun with it and keep us posted on the progress.

Side note, is that a psi-fi IC? Also where did you get your hood shocks, I need some bad, I hate hood poles hehe.

If you're going from stock to stage 3?? It's a low 12 second car with nothing really done to it. Good luck with traction, on my stg2 car is useless in 1-2 gears, I can't imagine 75+ more hp is like. That sucker will be fully spooled by 2500 because of the titanium exhaust blades, and enjoy 20-24 psi surges. You best back that sucker with a least a exhaust, and some 225mm rubber, but that still ain't going to help ya. PS HOM is addictive and you will need a 12 step program because of it. Good Luck on the install, it's going to be a beast, how long of a wait for the sucker, it took 7 days for my stg2 kit!!! :D

That's a CCA intercooler, and the hood struts are right here. (http://www.redlinetuning.com/QL-NEON-9504-STOCK.html)
They were a very easy to install, I was surprised. Yeah I had to ditch that prop rod.


for the traction, I am definetly going with at least some springs, sway bars, traction bars, and I know someone with some Stratus R/T wheels (5stars, 17x7) then find some decent rubber to wrap around them.

I am really getting excited already about this, and stage3 will be perfect for what I plan on doing anyway. Then after me and the wife have at least 2 more daily drivers...then, the SRT-4 will probably end up being my little project car.

CCA was my next guess hehe and thanks for the link, I'll be buying a set today

Sweet! That rocks that you're gettin the upgrade! I just got Gran Turismo 4 and transferred my 100,000 credits and licenses over from GT3 and the first car I bought was the SRT-4 and then a Camaro SS. But that doesnt really compare now does it... :( I SWEAR I'll have a CSS one day! LOL Hey omega, dont the SRT8 Chargers come in auto trannies only, yuck! Other than that they are awesome!! But check the gas mileage on Dodges site!!! :eek:

Hey I didnt know you can do that!!
Instructions please, I'll try it tonight. :D

Omega2... congrats on the decision... you will have alot of fun...Maybe I'll catch you around!

Yeah the Charger SRT-8 comes with an auto but..... I am still sure that thing will be a blast to drive. Well the Chrysler 300 SRT-8 is basically the same thing and if pricing is about the same then I will see which one. Me and the wife are trying to stick with SRT vehicles now.

I have been playing Forza motorsports myself on XBOX, graphics are awesome and xbox live is kicka$$. I have an SRT-4 of each factory color. :D

Thanx SXT I am sure it will make the car much more fun to drive every day....looking forward to it.

Congrats on your decision in getting S3, you'll have a blast, I too wanted to go that route, but the dumb smog laws held me back. But as soon as I find out a way to pass smog with S3, then I'm all game as well. Good luck, and have fun.

Congrats on your decision in getting S3, you'll have a blast, I too wanted to go that route, but the dumb smog laws held me back. But as soon as I find out a way to pass smog with S3, then I'm all game as well. Good luck, and have fun.
you in Cali?
So far I've got one person here that knows some guys at a local shop that can hook us up with inspection stickers. So if that's really true then I think I will also go w/ the 3" turbo back w/o cat. :p

I also would like to know where these hookups can be had!!!! Don't worry I won't spread the word at all... I'm greedy! lol.. but serious, this would be awesome for some future plans of mine!

PM me if you don't wanna announce it online. Just like to know where to see how close it is from me, if infact this is in cali!

I also would like to know where these hookups can be had!!!! Don't worry I won't spread the word at all... I'm greedy! lol.. but serious, this would be awesome for some future plans of mine!

PM me if you don't wanna announce it online. Just like to know where to see how close it is from me, if infact this is in cali!


Oh I was jsut asking him if he was in California 'cause of him talking about smog laws. I am in N.C.....there are plenty of backwood redneck shops around here to find at least one person who can give you a hook up. I'm sure you can find one around there also.

Its a fabulous piece to work with. Its not a time bomb like the AGP turbos and with a few other mods you can have just as much power

Stage 3 here as well and I have no complaints. Shoot the car is easily capable of 11's with just stage 3 alone. My time in sig is proof of that. That was w/ my only power mod being stage 3 and the mopar catback and drop in filter. 2.0 60ft leaves alot more room for improvement and it kicked out of HO at around the 1000ft mark. The track is also at 1500ft above sea level which is just enough elevation to cause boosted cars to be a tad slower. Unfortunately I have yet to get back to the track to improve on those times as my clutch issues persist.

Stage 3R is a no brainer if you ask me. I would hate to put on an aftermarket turbo and not be able to tune it right for months after it is already on the car. Tuning is very sensitive and every day can cause or create a new problem w/ a non pcm controlled car.

it kicked out of HO at around the 1000ft mark

That is exactly why I decided against Mopar SIII and went with an AGP GT30BB turbo upgrade. I'm now making 400whp on pump gas @ ~22psi and if I dump in some race gas & turn the boost up to 28psi, I'm hitting 485 and 500 ft/lbs. And that was dyno-ing on a 116 degree day.

And the car is my daily driver. I can drive around all day w/ the AVC-R turned off running only on the waste gate at 10psi and right at 300whp. And I can go WOT in any gear under most conditions (dry, clean pavement/asphalt) including 1st gear thanks to the AVC-R's gear dependent boost. On my street tune (22psi) I'm getting a total of 40 degrees advance timing (according to the ODBII scanner). On the race gas tune (28psi) I'm getting a total of 35 degrees advance.

So with the way I have my car set up, I have nearly all of the features of the turbo toys (except for the intercooler sprayer, which is a joke), I don't have to worry about "kicking out of HOM" and I'm putting down more power on Pump Gas than most Stage III cars can on Race Gas in HOM.

That's dope. Too bad you're not in Glendale, CA

That must be one hell of a car!:eek:

That is exactly why I decided against Mopar SIII and went with an AGP GT30BB turbo upgrade. I'm now making 400whp on pump gas @ ~22psi and if I dump in some race gas & turn the boost up to 28psi, I'm hitting 485 and 500 ft/lbs. And that was dyno-ing on a 116 degree day.

And the car is my daily driver. I can drive around all day w/ the AVC-R turned off running only on the waste gate at 10psi and right at 300whp. And I can go WOT in any gear under most conditions (dry, clean pavement/asphalt) including 1st gear thanks to the AVC-R's gear dependent boost. On my street tune (22psi) I'm getting a total of 40 degrees advance timing (according to the ODBII scanner). On the race gas tune (28psi) I'm getting a total of 35 degrees advance.

So with the way I have my car set up, I have nearly all of the features of the turbo toys (except for the intercooler sprayer, which is a joke), I don't have to worry about "kicking out of HOM" and I'm putting down more power on Pump Gas than most Stage III cars can on Race Gas in HOM.I hope the time in your sig is not with all that power. If it is that is why I do not like aftermarket turbo's. Anyways I have been at the track w/ 400+whp srt's and they have not ran any faster than me trap speed wise on the same day. I have also been quicker E.T wise. I bought the srt for it's beautiful power curve w/ torque on tap. Stage 3 maintains that power curve and an aftermarket turbo does not. I don't see half these guys with aftermarket turbo's running any better than stage 3 cars w/ almost 100 more peak hp. Power under the curve IMO is much more important. Besides I like canyon carving as well and if I had a turbo w/ any more lag it would suck in the mountains. I don't care if it is a DBB turbo it will still spool slower than stage 3 regardless of what people say. I have seen alot of DBB turbo's not spool until 3400rpm's. Too much lag for me for my car. Stage 3 is an autocross and drag racing friendly turbo. It is also putting down the track times of cars dynoing alot higher. I also don't have to mess with anything. I hit a switch and that's it and I rely on the pcm to keep my car safe not the trusty hands of a dyno operator or some joe blow who is learning how to tune. By the way my 115.6mph trap speed actually is indicative of a car putting out 380whp not the 350whp my car dynoed at. We all know staged upgrades do better at the track then the dyno would lead one to believe.

nice to see guys making those kinda #'s on SRT-4's... keep up the good work...

Tuning is not that hard guys. You do not have to tune per each day lol. Where do you guys come up with this stuff haha? You have your beliefs and other will have thiers. You prefer mopar some prefer aftermarket. No need to bash on one or the other. Both are great investment.

Saying a aftermarket turbo is "time bomb" was a VERY bold statement to say. The stock turbo is just as fragile as any turbo including the td05 S3. My buddy just had his stock turbo be starved from oil thus burned up so don't talk like just because its not from Mitsubishi than its junk because thats about as dumb of a remark as it gets.

Also about the track times and such. You have to remember that these cars are FWD. Alot fo people haven't even been able to break into the 10's because of our torque curve and hella torque being applied. Take both S3 and aftermarket turbo to the street and see who comes out on top ;). Some people like to drag race and all which is fine but not everyone is into that. You don't throw on a big late spooling turbo for drag racing. S3 spools fast yes but so does the 3147 or 50 trim kit.



That is exactly why I decided against Mopar SIII. I don't have to worry about "kicking out of HOM" and I'm putting down more power on Pump Gas than most Stage III cars can on Race Gas in HOM.

HOM is also one of the factors that deterred me away from S3. alot of guys can't stay in HOM and thats on S2 or S3. Its far too inconsistant and both S2 and S3 w/o HOM is nothing too impressive IMO. Inconsistancy loses races not wins them.

^^^ i agree, tuning is not hard at all for some its just time consuming. but thats what you have to do to get the most out of your mods.

and the aftermarket turbo part i agree with too, some cars the stock snail can only take so much, you either have to change it out or be happy where you are. i guess im just lucky my stock turbo can take the abusei hand it.

I hope the time in your sig is not with all that power. If it is that is why I do not like aftermarket turbo's. Anyways I have been at the track w/ 400+whp srt's and they have not ran any faster than me trap speed wise on the same day. I have also been quicker E.T wise. I bought the srt for it's beautiful power curve w/ torque on tap. Stage 3 maintains that power curve and an aftermarket turbo does not. I don't see half these guys with aftermarket turbo's running any better than stage 3 cars w/ almost 100 more peak hp. Power under the curve IMO is much more important. Besides I like canyon carving as well and if I had a turbo w/ any more lag it would suck in the mountains. I don't care if it is a DBB turbo it will still spool slower than stage 3 regardless of what people say. I have seen alot of DBB turbo's not spool until 3400rpm's. Too much lag for me for my car. Stage 3 is an autocross and drag racing friendly turbo. It is also putting down the track times of cars dynoing alot higher. I also don't have to mess with anything. I hit a switch and that's it and I rely on the pcm to keep my car safe not the trusty hands of a dyno operator or some joe blow who is learning how to tune. By the way my 115.6mph trap speed actually is indicative of a car putting out 380whp not the 350whp my car dynoed at. We all know staged upgrades do better at the track then the dyno would lead one to believe.

The numbers were "corrected" at the dyno... and it was still hot as heck out there last Saturday night (when my car ran those number). There was a stage III car on drag radials running low 13's, high 12's on HOM, if that is any indication of heat and traction. I'm hoping to head out this Friday night, hopefully traction will be better, but the heat will still be there. When it cools down out here I know I'll be in the 11's, no prob.

And tuning is not that hard. Look at the A/F ratio chart, make some adjustments in the D-Tec and run again. I tuned 10psi, 20psi and 28psi in about 2 hours. I'll tune again when it cools off to make any adjustments needed for cooler air (fall/spring) and probably tune again on a cold winter evening for cold air. The D-Tec has 4 maps that it can store, so I can store the summer, spring/fall and winter tunes and still have a slot left over. I'm betting that the difference between the tunes is minimal and the summer tune would probably be more than safe during the winter... There just might be some more power to be made with a "winter tune."

Also, I've watched where my turbo spools. You can actually hear it spooling up around 2.5k rpm. By 3000 rpm it'll build about 10psi; at 10psi my car made right at 300whp. If you compare the torque curve, from what I've heard, this isn't far off from Stage III cars. (But not like the stock turbo, which would hit 22psi by 2700rpm).

I don't have a scan of my chart, but basically if you drew a line from 110ft/lbs @ 2500 rpm to 500ft/lbs@4500rpm that's the the ramp up. Then it holds close to 500ft/lbs to 5000 rpm then draw a line from 500@5000 to 400@redline. That's the curve.

Hey I didnt know you can do that!!
Instructions please, I'll try it tonight. :D
It asked me if I wanted to do it... You'll have to have BOTH files if they are on separate cards put the card with the GT3 data in slot 2.... I did it at the very first of the game, but I think it said you could wait til later... Good luck.

Sorry for gettin OT.... not like everybody else hasnt already.. LOL

Hey I didnt know you can do that!!
Instructions please, I'll try it tonight. :D

I have over 4 quadtrillion(I think) dollars! :P No lie... It looks like this: 4,515,556,234,466,498

Not exactly sure how much that is, it looks like QuadTrillion but I am sure I am wrong...

I can have every car in every color! :P LoL I have a Mercedes McLaren SLR in each color they came in! :o

I know I know... Everyone hates cheaters... But I do play the game too, just cheat while doing so! :o

It is nice to see SRT's at those numbers! Kind of cool considering I didn't really like them untill I got on this forum and saw what they are capable of and for some reason, yours just seem to look nice! :cool:

I have over 4 quadtrillion(I think) dollars! :P No lie... It looks like this: 4,515,556,234,466,498

Not exactly sure how much that is, it looks like QuadTrillion but I am sure I am wrong...

I can have every car in every color! :P LoL I have a Mercedes McLaren SLR in each color they came in! :o

I know I know... Everyone hates cheaters... But I do play the game too, just cheat while doing so! :o

It is nice to see SRT's at those numbers! Kind of cool considering I didn't really like them untill I got on this forum and saw what they are capable of and for some reason, yours just seem to look nice! :cool:
:eek: How'd you get that much cash!?!?!?! On GT4 or GT3??? I just now started GT4 and even if you have that much on GT3 it'll only let you transfer 100,000.... HOWD YOU GET THAT MUCH CASH!!??!?!?!

:eek: How'd you get that much cash!?!?!?! On GT4 or GT3??? I just now started GT4 and even if you have that much on GT3 it'll only let you transfer 100,000.... HOWD YOU GET THAT MUCH CASH!!??!?!?!
Hack the savegame file ;)

I did the same thing with Sim City. I haven't played GT3 or GT4, but that's what I'd do if I wanted megabux. :D

Hack the savegame file ;)

I did the same thing with Sim City. I haven't played GT3 or GT4, but that's what I'd do if I wanted megabux. :D

Or just simply pay $25 for an AR Game Cheats thing and be on your marry way! :o

should I create a Gran Turismo thread for you Hijackers.....arrrrrgh
:P

Haha, but video games rule the world. Heck, they are over half the reason why kids are lazy and don't go outside (I know, I fit in that lazy-indoor generation). Without video games, I'd be forced to learn through painful experiences (I have had to many as it is) rather learning through humour in video games subconsciencally...lol. Oh and there is some research paper saying how kids playing mario and such have better instantanious (spelling?) vision, meaning we can see more objects at a glance than the average person and we can see things moving farther off to the side (great for driving). Can't forget the fine motor skills and reaction time that you generate playing games too...lol, sorry, I did an english 110 paper on this and got a 97%..hahaha, I ENJOYED doing it.