Ok so i went to bandimere tonight and met up with 2K2CamaroSS it was good to put a face to the name. Anyway my first run really sucked ass a 17.707 with a 2.78 60 ft i had wheel hop from heel and i have the goofyguy torque brace to boot. the next race was much much better it was a 15.605 with a 2.3 60ft and then my first round i went out with a 15.8 i lost to a modded GTP.

Now 2K2CamaroSS ran cosistant all night as far as i could tell and with his help i was able to get the lower times with his launching tecnique. i ened up leaving before seeing him run again. but i figure he would post his results when he gets the chance.

Now i know these sound like slow times but remember we at at 6000 ft and it was 104 today. most of the races were ran at 95 -98 degrees. so over all i was impressed with how the car performed and it was nice to meet 2K2CamaroSS. Now i just need to figure out the problems with the brace to eleminate the wheel hop.

Nice. Sounds like fun... lol. What was your highest trap speed?

Hey man we all need practice! I need the car! LOL :D

I went to the track tonight down in Reynolds Georgia. I went 15.21 @98 mph track was prepped fairly well and the tires were at 35 psi. My car on the dyno made 232 FWHP and 198 lbs FWTQ (dynojet). This was bone stock runs w/ nothing what so ever done to the car. Launching from idle with no wheel spin. I tried launching @ 2k rpm and WHOOOAAAAA WHEEL SPIN CRAZY, then tried 1500 rpm and WHOOOAAAAA WHEEL HOP CRAZY i felt like i was on a pogo stick :) . Launching at idle and feathing the clutch with 90% throttle yeilded the best results. Temp was in the low 80's.

It was good to meet you as well :).

These cars have crazy wheel hop from the line. First run I launched around 2k and, well that didn't work out too well, ended up running a 16.0 on that run. Next run feathered the clutch at 1500 rpms and got a 15.633@90.3mph with a 2.3 60'.

Over all it was pretty much 15.6's all night. I probably could have run a 15.4 in the second round, since I ended up getting a 15.82 @72mph which was hard on the brakes in the traps.

I ended up going to the 3rd round. 1st and 2nd round I knocked out some mustangs, which was a good feeling, lol. But I lost in the 3rd thanx to the wonderful rev limiter ;).

Let me know what goofy guy says about the brace.

Brian

wow i cant believe those times...i went to the track for the first time in my life lastnight, its lester track in rochester new york...my first run i had some hard spinning as i had never run on a track before, but i still pulled a 15.01. I had a few more runs pulling for under a 15, and on my fourth try i hit a 14.97. I ran about 7 times, and my best run was a 14.5 at 96.9, however i had almost no wheelspin out of the whole and a decent r/t. There was another ss there that was running 16.5's and up with horrible wheelspin. Make sure you keep the tires down or you wont even break a 15 stock. If anyone has any doubts ill take a pic of my time sheet and post it for you guys when im at home.

Man, I can't believe what elevation does to your times. You guys need to get to lower ground for a little while, so you can feel the power differance. As far as tire pressure goes, you can break into the 14's with 35 psi. When I ran my personal best of 14.707, I never touched the pressure!

I went to the track tonight down in Reynolds Georgia. I went 15.21 @98 mph track was prepped fairly well and the tires were at 35 psi. My car on the dyno made 232 FWHP and 198 lbs FWTQ (dynojet). This was bone stock runs w/ nothing what so ever done to the car. Launching from idle with no wheel spin. I tried launching @ 2k rpm and WHOOOAAAAA WHEEL SPIN CRAZY, then tried 1500 rpm and WHOOOAAAAA WHEEL HOP CRAZY i felt like i was on a pogo stick :) . Launching at idle and feathing the clutch with 90% throttle yeilded the best results. Temp was in the low 80's.
That trap speed is rediculous for that time. It's funny how WRX's are runnin 14.2's at like 97, and you ran a full second slower with a higher trap speed. We've been seeing that as well the the RL's. Someone needs to figure out how to launch these things decently and get the 60' times down, and we'll start seeing the improvement in ET's.

In my 14.707 run my 60ft was 2.16, I think I could have got a better time but I f**k up shifting 2nd to 3rd by missing the shift. That probably cost me at least 2 tenths. Plus that run I had a lower trap speed of 96.1mph compared to a later run where I clocked a 15.013@98.3mph. All kinds of wheelspin on that run. On my best time I did not drop the clutch or lower the tire pressure at all. I also ran a 14.89@94.2mph at a later date when the air temp was 91 degrees, a track temp mentioned over the loud speaker that the track temp was about 119 degrees! I have much repect for this car and will gain more when fall comes around and hopefully doing 14.4 to 14.5 at the track! Until then I will treat it like a baby. Someday I will post pics. of my time sheets, but for now I am not computer savy enough to post pics. Maybe someday I have someone teach me. :confused:

FWD is a real bitch to launch for low times.
WRX/STi/EVO have AWD which helps a ton with launching, but that drivetrain loss kills them in the end.
Practice makes perfect! Is there an "Official 1/4 Mile Times" thread going yet?

FWD is a real bitch to launch for low times.
WRX/STi/EVO have AWD which helps a ton with launching, but that drivetrain loss kills them in the end.
Practice makes perfect! Is there an "Official 1/4 Mile Times" thread going yet?


i haven't seen a thread yet but maybe the admins can get it started that would be cool but i feel that there should be some ground rules for it first.

on some of the other boards i have belonged to it gets crazy. that is the only reason i suggest some ground rules

What happens? Do people start talking crap?

What happens? Do people start talking crap?
They start posting false times. I figure a good moderator that locks it down and only posts times that have scanned slips emailed to him/her.

lol, u think 185-190 lbs to the front wheels are hard to keep down.....try 250.....its like hell stock....

MM's are between heaven and earth for the srts.......

lol, u think 185-190 lbs to the front wheels are hard to keep down.....try 250.....its like hell stock....

Try 500ftlbs ;)

They start posting false times. I figure a good moderator that locks it down and only posts times that have scanned slips emailed to him/her.

i agree times are only valid with scanned slips. it is the only way to maderate it.

you guys are in CO..which is 6k feet above sea level you won't run the same as a car a say..10 ft above sea level. and it has more of an effect on a FI car. so don't be so hard on yourself.

Oh i know what alt does to cars. i really was happy with my times (for the alt) in nov i will run down to heartland raceway in topeka ks and see how she does there. i know i lost 1/2 a sec with my other car and it had boost problems at the time of the runs. i just need to figure out when i can get there and when their TNT night is. anyone up for going once i can figure it all out? that track is like 900ft or so

Welcome to wheel hop world. Us SRT guys have it bad as well.

Welcome to wheel hop world. Us SRT guys have it bad as well.

Decent motor mounts go a LONG ways toward fixing wheel hop. I made my own motor mounts and had a friend make a transmission mount. I've also added the Rage Traction bushings. Wheel hop is non-existant in my car.

It'll only be a matter of time before these components are available for the Cobalts.

Decent motor mounts go a LONG ways toward fixing wheel hop. I made my own motor mounts and had a friend make a transmission mount. I've also added the Rage Traction bushings. Wheel hop is non-existant in my car.

It'll only be a matter of time before these components are available for the Cobalts.

i made them for my alero filled them with poly and worked great. :D
but what are traction bushing this i have not heard of :eek:

You guys are all racing with too high of tire pressure i tried with whatever was stock i think 35 and you get no traction. I lowered it to 25psi and holy shit did it launch great.

Has anyone done the math from a stock dyno chart of the best shift points for the Cobalt SS?? What gear and RPM are you guys finishing in? I am guessing that you shouldn't shift right before redline on a supercharged vehicle.

The car definitely has potential. At Bandimere I ran a 15.18 in my 04 Redline with All Season Kumho's and a K&N intake. I will post the timeslip tomorrow.

i know that when i had my srt-4 launching sucked. stock tires at 35 psi means one thing for the srt4. broken trans mount. i broke 2 of them. even went up to a grade 8 bolt and sheered it right in half. low tire pressure on ur stock tires helps. u want to really launch go get a set of 15 inch rims and a set of mickey thompsons. that will cure the fwd wheel hop problem

Ok I know this is going to be huge, but here goes.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/LoungeLizard1985/Picture023.jpg

Has anyone done the math from a stock dyno chart of the best shift points for the Cobalt SS?? What gear and RPM are you guys finishing in? I am guessing that you shouldn't shift right before redline on a supercharged vehicle.

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Ok I know this is going to be huge, but here goes.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/LoungeLizard1985/Picture023.jpg

damn lounge :eek: that rocks pretty impressive i hope to be down that low in the next few races. you going to be at the imports on the 18th :D

This was the first time i ever took my car down the track. It was way different then on the street. Anyways i lowered my tired to about 30 and ran a 15.063. I was actually kind of mad i couldn't break into the 14's, i know with some more practise it will be.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/93/ts0be.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

damn lounge :eek: that rocks pretty impressive i hope to be down that low in the next few races. you going to be at the imports on the 18th :D

I am so out of the loop. Whats going on that day?

I just looked it up on their website. I am in, and I hope to be in the 14's this time.

I just looked it up on their website. I am in, and I hope to be in the 14's this time.
cool it will be a good time we should meet somewhere and go in together look me up or pm me and we can work things out and what not. same goes to anyone else who would like to go.

I felt left out so here is my time slip

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/DSC00165.JPG

I felt left out so here is my time slip

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/DSC00165.JPG


Nice, how'd you launch...because that's an impressive 60ft! :cool:

Nice, how'd you launch...because that's an impressive 60ft! :cool:
3,000 rpms, slip the clutch, feel it grab, WOT. :cool:

Took my SS to the track a couple weeks ago, first time i been there, best i could run was a 15.1 and i spun the tires on that run to. Times will drop once i get the launch down. What RPM's is everybody launching at, i've launched everywhere from 2000 to 4000.

Took my SS to the track a couple weeks ago, first time i been there, best i could run was a 15.1 and i spun the tires on that run to. Times will drop once i get the launch down. What RPM's is everybody launching at, i've launched everywhere from 2000 to 4000.
honestly with stock tires I usually launch at or near idle.

honestly with stock tires I usually launch at or near idle.

You beat me to the punch. That's how I launch my car everytime at the track. It's almost impossible for me not to get at least a 14.8 that way! Next time at the track I will have to do some feathering but that can be tough! Best ET=14.733@97.1mph. I can tell there is a better time to get in this car. The wheelspin that kicks in at 4500rpm is killing my 60ft times!

Hey I found this coupon on the web for NHRA race at Las Vegas Speedway on Sep 9 and 10. Don't know if anybody here is from Las Vegas, but here is the coupon.
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005/events/race08/flyer.jpg

Not sure if this has been suggested or not, but has any one tried to start in 2nd gear? The engines have the torque to move these cars quick, it just might eat up you clutch a little bit more than usual.

I know its a little late, but I got a new best time at bandi the 18th. For people that dont know, Bandimere is at about 5900ft, and I ran a 14.5 @ 97mph.

just a lil suggestion after reading these posts about all the crazy wheel spin I think you guys should invest in some drag radials or slicks.Your 60fts will come down big time and youll really see what those SS can do.My first time at the track on stockers my 60 fts were horrible and couldnt hook up until 3rd gear no matter what I tryed.JUst my 2cents.