Figured since I hadn't seen the thread created here, I might as well create it and let you all build on it.

Post up your 1/4 mile track times folks!! Slips are mandatory!! Slips are included to prevent heresay babble and let the slip do the talking.

So post up your slips guys/gals!!

-mods, perhaps sticky this if you wish.

Cobalts only?

yeah, I think this one should be made only for cobalt folks. We can create one for all the members if anyone wanted to create one. I just made this one "official" or whatnot in the heading to make it "cobalt-specific" kinda.

^^^ good idea...

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Utter shit no vht on track ....

Very disappointed on performance. :mad:

Sticky sticky... done..

holy huge timeslip batman!!!

cobizzle: you should make another room for other cars, im really intrested in the some of the upgraded SRT-4's

cobizzle: you should make another room for other cars, im really intrested in the some of the upgraded SRT-4's


What Novtec said ;)

novtec....if you're interested in srt's, go to an srt website.

Very disappointed on performance. :mad:Actually if you discount the Reaction Time a pretty respectable (and very typical) run for the CSS (and ION Redline). Many have had to take numerous runs to get get the "hoppin out" start down:p
I havnt heard anyone getting a stocker below 14.2! Maybe with a pair of GoofyGuy torque braces and some drag radials to get the 60' under 2.0 maybe someone can take a stocker into the 13s??
WopOnTour

Actually if you discount the Reaction Time a pretty respectable (and very typical) run for the CSS (and ION Redline). Many have had to take numerous runs to get get the "hoppin out" start down:p
I havnt heard anyone getting a stocker below 14.2! Maybe with a pair of GoofyGuy torque braces and some drag radials to get the 60' under 2.0 maybe someone can take a stocker into the 13s??
WopOnTour

Who cares about R/T when you are only going for your best E/T? :rolleyes:

Who cares about R/T when you are only going for your best E/T? :rolleyes:No shit Sherlock :rolleyes: ,
But the WIN light still matters! (depending on the class format) Otherwise we could all do single passes and then stand in a circle and compare slips! ToMeGun could have lost to 16sec Honda that cut a good light!
Every number tells a story:p
WOT

No shit Sherlock :rolleyes: ,
But the WIN light still matters! (depending on the class format) Otherwise we could all do single passes and then stand in a circle and compare slips! ToMeGun could have lost to 16sec Honda that cut a good light!
Every number tells a story:p
WOT

How does the win light matter, if you are just going for your best ET?? :confused:

"go for" whatever you want
WOT

less talk, more slips

less talk, more slips
Maybe there should be a "Timeslips comments" thread all of this chit-chat could be moved into? (Assuming the forum software allows such moves).

No kidding. i came here to see time slips, not a bunch of fighting and BSing

.........Ditto ^^^

I went to the track today and ran a 13.5 consistantly once i lowered my tire psi to 25psi. i would post my slips but i dont have a scanner but i'll work on it.

I went to the track today and ran a 13.5 consistantly once i lowered my tire psi to 25psi. i would post my slips but i dont have a scanner but i'll work on it.

In a R/L or CSS? You're going to have to post a slip and a list of your mods before I believe that one and even then a video wouldn't hurt.

cobizzle: you should make another room for other cars, im really intrested in the some of the upgraded SRT-4's
Nova, there's an entire website dedicated to the SRTs.
Tons of modded SRTs there. SRTforums.com
No need for a section here, really.

so does anyone else have time slips :confused:

Sorry no Time slip, and I don't have an SS either, I've got a base model :(...but I did G-Tech a 16.1 for anyone interested :P

First time at the track, to much wheel hop.
The good thing is there is only room for improvement
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heres mine from tonight at english town NJ. This was my final and best run of the night out of 6 against my friend in his 02 cobb stage 2 wrx. Not bad i tlhink for my first time out. i was a nervous wreck the first 3 times but as i got more comfotable i started doing better. I ran my best times racing my friend if i had to race someone i didn't know i would try to hard and fuck up the launch. my worst time for the night was a 16 flat at 95 mph and 3.2t 60 ft. Best reaction time was a .017. Im completely stock and i had only 25 psi in my tires. so what you think?

this is my 4th run it was against the wrx and the first time i broke into the 14's

Do you guys have a limited slip differentials?

I know i don't but don't know how much it would help im almost positive with more track time i can def get a 14.7 since i had a 14.806 on my first time to a track on the 6th run. but i started from running a 16 flat. id top out around 14.6 though for a 14.5 i just don't see it happening for me to easy. first gear is so damn short on these car if you give it too much gas even at a track like english town which has excellent grip and track prep they'll turn to mush and leave you running a 15. oh yeah the treack was so grippy when i shifted to second the tires would just bite and bounce around the rpms and boost unlike on the street where they would chirp or spin first the grap felt like my tranny didn't like it to much.

yea guys i had to throw my slips away becuase of my girl (lol) but i ran a 14.9 at new england drag way .. i jus couldnt get any traction off the launch.. not too disapointed tho i went like a day after i got the car... sept. 4 im goin agian so well see

Oh my you guys are pulling crap 60' times.
Once you work on it and get to a 2.1 on street tires your times will look much better.
Nice trap speeds overall.

Yeah I dont have a limited slip either but I think a Limited slip would help enough to get you to a low 14. Thats just what I think. What elevation are you running at? Are you bumping up the pressure on your tires?

Yeah I dont have a limited slip either but I think a Limited slip would help enough to get you to a low 14. Thats just what I think. What elevation are you running at? Are you bumping up the pressure on your tires?


the Limited slip is to prevent the inside wheel from lighting up during a turn ...I would imagine it will have little to no effect on a 1/4 run

the Limited slip is to prevent the inside wheel from lighting up during a turn ...I would imagine it will have little to no effect on a 1/4 run

limited slip deff helps in 1/4 mile

limited slip deff helps in 1/4 mile


I have heard this many times, but I have never had a problem launching an
open diff car at the track. Auto X... no way... 1/4 mile? No problem. It helps way
less than most people think.

I have heard this many times, but I have never had a problem launching an
open diff car at the track. Auto X... no way... 1/4 mile? No problem. It helps way
less than most people think.

i used to have an s10 with the 4.3 and a few mods and it helped a lot when i put it in. so yea you are right but with a little pickup with no weight in the back the right rear tire will light up effortlessly without it

i've raced my car both with and without lsd. i got the same 60' times either way. it makes no difference in the 1/4 mile. the only advantage is that when i did my burn outs i didn't have to jiggle the wheel to get both tires spinning!

i've raced my car both with and without lsd. i got the same 60' times either way. it makes no difference in the 1/4 mile. the only advantage is that when i did my burn outs i didn't have to jiggle the wheel to get both tires spinning!

Did you add other mods when you did the LSD? Cause an LSD can help a lot in the qtr. mile. To say it makes no difference is crazy talk.

LSD has no advantage on our cars (straight line) ...the eqaual half shafts virtually eliminate torque steer .... if there was torque steer it would help marginally

LSD has no advantage on our cars (straight line) ...the eqaual half shafts virtually eliminate torque steer .... if there was torque steer it would help marginally

i dont think we are talking about torque steer here. we are talking about traction.

i dont think we are talking about torque steer here. we are talking about traction.

I know what were talking about ...in a straight line the cobalt does not spin one wheel faster than another (where a LSD comes into play) often when a car does not have equal half shafts it can cause one wheel to spin more pulling the car in one direction, a LSD can cure this but this is not the case with our cars

the only thing changed was a new clutch was put in with the tranny.

it made no difference in my 60' times, on either street tires or dr's (i used to run both depending on the event). 2.1 on street tires and 1.9 on dr's, with both tranny's.

yeah im starting to think that the LSD won't do much for the car either in a straight line. If your running a 14.6 in a cobalt ss getting an lsd ain't going to drop you down to a 14.4 magically. The Lsd is more for turning and cornering

I know what were talking about ...in a straight line the cobalt does not spin one wheel faster than another (where a LSD comes into play) often when a car does not have equal half shafts it can cause one wheel to spin more pulling the car in one direction, a LSD can cure this but this is not the case with our cars
Lack of an LSD doesnt cause one wheel to spin faster than the other, it causes one wheel to NOT spin when the other is, which I'm sure you already know is not good when youre trying to get off the line as quick as possible.
Open diff=one wheel peel :o

Lack of an LSD doesnt cause one wheel to spin faster than the other, it causes one wheel to NOT spin when the other is, which I'm sure you already know is not good when youre trying to get off the line as quick as possible.
Open diff=one wheel peel :o

never said it would cause one wheel to spin faster .... I said that its not an issue for non lsd cobalts....in straight line we (or at least me) dont experience one wheel spinning faster than the other so there is no slip to limit.

i know i don't have one wheel spinning fast than the other ether they both break loose or they hop.

i know i don't have one wheel spinning fast than the other ether they both break loose or they hop.


exactly and a lsd wont help this ....its up to the driver ....well;you could get a torque brace for the wheel hop

i know i don't have one wheel spinning fast than the other ether they both break loose or they hop.
So youre telling me that when you do a burnout in your non LSD car you get both tires to spin? Sounds like GM may have designed a different open diff than what has been used forever, because on all other open diffs that are working properly, when you lose traction with one wheel, the other wheel comes to a stop and will only move if the wheel thats spinning catches traction. Hence why open diffs suck, because its the wheel that has no traction that is doing all the work, instead of the wheel that might have a chance at grabbing, or having both wheels do the work like an LSD does. I know this all too well, I drove my 91 Camaro in 2 winters with an open diff. To say it sucked would be an understatement.
Something still doesnt sound right though if both wheels are spinning and you dont have LSD in your car. If you break traction you should automatically have only one wheel spinning. Im at a loss here :confused:

c7015, I misread your previous post where you said "it can cause one wheel to spin more". Sorry bout that.

He is most likely moving the steering wheel while doing the burnout. This will cause both tires to go up in a non LSD car with a little power.

He is most likely moving the steering wheel while doing the burnout. This will cause both tires to go up in a non LSD car with a little power.

Not talking about a burn out im talking about launching the car at the track. If i rev it to high and go full throttle they either hop or turn to mush and both start spinning. I've launched the car in parking lots and when you look at the tire marks theres two parallel lines not thread left from one tire for a couple feet than all in the sudden the other tire grips and leaves tread. If what your saying is true than only one tire should be leaving tread behind because of the lack of an LSD?

In an open differential if available traction is sufficient and equal, so then will be the distribution of torque through the diff pin and gearing
WOT

9.5 in the 1/8 mile is really good! What were you racing?

How about you take a video of both sides of the car to see if both tires are spining. And without the limited slip both tires should not spin. I think. And Im pretty sure its the Left front tire that drives the car because when I autocrossed it my left front tire would heat up to 50 psi when the right was at 47 or 45 psi. But I know for sure the limited slip will with out a doubt it will help in an autocross.

So youre telling me that when you do a burnout in your non LSD car you get both tires to spin? Sounds like GM may have designed a different open diff than what has been used forever, because on all other open diffs that are working properly, when you lose traction with one wheel, the other wheel comes to a stop and will only move if the wheel thats spinning catches traction. Hence why open diffs suck, because its the wheel that has no traction that is doing all the work, instead of the wheel that might have a chance at grabbing, or having both wheels do the work like an LSD does. I know this all too well, I drove my 91 Camaro in 2 winters with an open diff. To say it sucked would be an understatement.
Something still doesnt sound right though if both wheels are spinning and you dont have LSD in your car. If you break traction you should automatically have only one wheel spinning. Im at a loss here :confused:

c7015, I misread your previous post where you said "it can cause one wheel to spin more". Sorry bout that.

The regal in my sig has no problems doing 2 wheel burnouts with stock diff.

Even when taking off they both are even.

If the cobalts have equal length half shafts that would get rid of alot of the torque steer and really help with eliminating the one wheel burnouts when launching.

More Slips? Anyone break into the 13's yet?

Sean

More Slips? Anyone break into the 13's yet?

Sean

im with this guy, to save you guys some time my best is a 13.7 @ 105 with the mods in my sig, i have a little traction problem

If the SS/RL had the mods that you have, they might. Wait about 6 months, you might want to change your signature!

The regal in my sig has no problems doing 2 wheel burnouts with stock diff.

Even when taking off they both are even.

If the cobalts have equal length half shafts that would get rid of alot of the torque steer and really help with eliminating the one wheel burnouts when launching.


That is an oddity, man. I don't disbelieve you, but the whole deal with posi-track is it'll leave two sets of tire tracks, whereas the open diff cars leave only one.

you might want to change your signature!

i have to agree

i have to agree


me Too ...that sig is the definition of a troll ....with those mods you dont have a traction problem you have a driver problem ...I think stock SRT's have posted better numbers

me Too ...that sig is the definition of a troll ....with those mods you dont have a traction problem you have a driver problem ...I think stock SRT's have posted better numbers
Same ET, not the same trap.

The mods listed in his sig + 6" slick will yield a high 12 on a cool day. ;)

1st gear has traction problems stock, that goes for both SRT-4's and SS/SC's. Yea, a good driver can get more out of it, on street tires, but it still not putting 100% of the power to the ground.

Then again, you really don't have traction problems until you break the tires loose in 3rd gear and roast them to 90mph... an 1/8 mile long burn-out :D

me Too ...that sig is the definition of a troll ....with those mods you dont have a traction problem you have a driver problem ...I think stock SRT's have posted better numbers

do you guys have any idea how hard it is to put down 277 ft lbs of torque at the wheels on 6 inch street tires?????? i personally have never seen a stock srt run better than a 14.1, im sure there are some factory freaks out there though, my reason for the sig is that i have never seen a stock SS or RL get lower than a 14.5, while when my car was stock i got a 14.1 @ 100 mind you. so, if with these mods i get only .4 seconds but 5mph, i obviously have a traction problem, if i can roll along at 40 in second gear, put the pedal to the floor and spin the tires, then yes, i do have a tractoin problem :D , and doing it in third is insane :eek: that is one hell of a car

More slips please!!!

With as much to the wheel as you guys get from the factory, I expect to see some 14.0s at least. RSXs have hit 14 flat with 200-205whp NA, so you guys should easily have the power to pull it off stock unless I'm missing something. I hit 15.2 with 176 whp (stock).

Have you guys tried throwing on some lighter / smaller wheels -- 18s (that's right isn't it?) are TERRIBLE for drag numbers. Go get some light and wide 16s and slap some sticky rubber to them and I bet you drop some serious time.

Good luck -- post up some 13s asap!

Wayne

yeah Gm was trying to be "hip" and give the car 18's which i must say is nice since i've never had a rim on any of my cars bigger than an 15 inch before my cobalt. But the 18's just aren't functional for drag racing. There just plain ol' clumsy. It's like trying to run a foot race in clogs.

BTW, I talked to Bogart Racing wheels about wheels for the Cobalt SS, basically someone needs to take some measurements and contact Bogart to see if they can make a 15" drag wheel for the SS. If not, Bogart said they'd be able to make larger diameter wheels (just good luck finding slicks :( ).

Here is the diagram for the measurements needed:
http://www.bogartracingwheels.com/diagram2.gif

Here is their home page:
http://www.bogartracingwheels.com

Here is a pic of my Bogart Wheels (Approx $350 per wheel).
http://www.azchatfield.net/miscpics/_private/Bogarts_sm3.jpg (http://www.azchatfield.net/miscpics/_private/Bogarts3.jpg)

This is my best ET and my best RT from last night. Average ET was 15.3, average RT was .3. Gotta remember, I'm running at about 5300 ft. Traction bit big time, I kept having to feather the gas to get the launch. Pissed me off I couldn't break into the 14s. Maybe next time. Oh yeah, they don't have an air pump, and I forgot my tire guage, so these times are running on 32psi also.

Hmmm, can't figure out how to make the time slips readable- best ET was 15.187 with a.684 RT (worst RT of the night btw) and a 2.337 60 ft. at 91.620 mph. Best RT was .193 60ft of 2.445 and ET of 15.358 at 94.010 mph.

*******edit
you should be able to see em now.

Hey im not sure where the timslip went, but i ran a 14.6 bone stock on my first run at the track. the second time i ran a 15.6, but i bogged out.
ill try to find the slips somewhere

Been awhile since i posted.Gonna take the car in the next couple weeks back to the track.High 13's Low 14's are what i'am expecting. Will post Mod's and a Video and slip to back it up. Talk is cheap without both :)

14.77 :D, slip to come soon. That was the best run of the day, with a 2.4 60ft time :eek: . I could've done better, kept missing my 1-2 shifts though...

Just got back, 14.6! Pretty good for a 16 year old, eh?

13's has allready been had, my girl threw out my slips though, I'm pissed!!! I will get some more this friday there is a big halloween bash at the track Friday night! If your in the area you guys should come, I will leave my time a secret til you guys show up. (ok, I'm just gonna surprise the guys at the track, they will probably post it up here before I get a chance) ;)

My self, a few buddies and a few guys from the Ontario Cobalt Club went to St. Thomas dragway today and I was looking to improve on my time from mid summer which was a best of 14.80 at almost 96 mph. It was raining like shit down here in Toronto and the forecast in St. Thomas called for a sunny, clear afternoon so we figured WTF let's go! The launchpad was still really damp from the rain and second gear could not hook up for the life of me! It was so goddam frustrating as I have the Fujita CAI intake in now and was consistently running 14.7's at 99 mph or so with a best of 14.68 at 99 pmh. I sat and watched for a little while til the sun came out and then a half hour before the track closed I said F**k IT, ONE MORE TIME!!! I ran a 14.7 again!!! The guy handing out slips told me to do one more and he'll wait so I did and got a decent launch but it felt like every other and when I got the slip......


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I'm #183. This car is consistently running 3-4 mph faster than before the intake and I'm sure if the track was I little drier then I could have shaved maybe a tenth of the 60 ft time and really believe I could have ran a 14.4 or so, I mean the mph is there so the car is making power. I guess I'll have to wait until next spring when I have more goods under the hood

Ha! You have nitrous and stuff, cheater! Us stock people have it rough!

Still... I have horrible 60' times... 2.45 seconds... but I still ran a 14.6!!

I know, get them mods! We need to hype this car up hardcore. I have allready been making a crazy amount of calls to all these companies begging for parts and everyone else should do the same, but remember you need to back it up when you call. As soon as the product comes out you need to get in on the trial phases and buy the test group purchases. That will let the ompanies know that there is a market for this platform.

Ha! You have nitrous and stuff, cheater! Us stock people have it rough!

Still... I have horrible 60' times... 2.45 seconds... but I still ran a 14.6!!

Get some drag radials, huge improvement in 60ft times

It's not the traction loss, it's the wheel hop, sir. That goofy guy torque brace looks mighty appetizing.

I've been thinking about it, I don't really get too much wheel hop at 6psi tire presure though, think I should go ahead and get it anyway, for street use I guess?

First time i have had the car a track numbers were not bad for not raging first gear off the line i only have 1663 miles on the car so was being real careful not to tear up the clutch i dont know what the elevation is for vegas
hope you can read the time slips i dont know if they scanned very well
by the way dont laugh at my reaction times. my car number is 14

has anyone made it to the 13 yet and what do they have done my buddy has a redline just trying to help him out since he don't have much time to get on the net 13.605 at 104.98 agp waste gate turbo xs boost controller turbo xs rfl blow off valve on 16psi on street tires

has anyone made it to the 13 yet and what do they have done my buddy has a redline just trying to help him out since he don't have much time to get on the net 13.605 at 104.98 agp waste gate turbo xs boost controller turbo xs rfl blow off valve on 16psi on street tires

If you looking for thirteens anybody who did it was on spray (I think)
Give it some more time. I got my 14.806 (damn near a 14.7) first time at the track nervous as hell with a 2.3 basically and traping low. Im sure i could get down into the 14.6-14.5 easily If I had a chance to go back to english town. People have to start learning there cars then the times will all get better.

13.6 @ 106, read my sig if you wanna know how...

dammit, where is my sig at? I can't see it anyway, but yeah, on spray, waiting for my cams to get here, yeha!

dammit, where is my sig at? I can't see it anyway, but yeah, on spray, waiting for my cams to get here, yeha!

FYI, your sig will only appear once per page on this forum. ;)

banner ads disguised as sigs do get annoying

A Red Line hit 13s with the Psi Fi kit.

Ok I gotcha now, I'm not very good with these computer thingies, hehe, soon as my damn cams get here, and decide whether to go with psi-fi or GMPP, then I'm gonna try for some 12's...I wish...Wait, we all wish...

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14.4

ill get the time slip up once i get my scanner set up. last night i ran a 12.14 in the 1000 ft one time and a 12.2 a couple times. not bad considering it was my first time. sorry that its the 1000 ft but thats all we have in arkansas. oh that 12.1 was against an srt 4 and he got a 12.09. i also saw my buddy run his stock srt 4 into a 11.75 which was really nice. ill get them slips up soon.

What about the 1320?

^^^ I do concur, wish I could run at the track now that the clutch is good and broken in, but they are closed for the season, guess I'll drive to florida or something and run my low :rolleyes: 13's...

i took a picture but this forumn says the file is too big i will email to who ever but if you know how to make it smaller please let me know have no problem posting it. the run is just rolling out of the hole becasue i know if you guys know these car's dumping it you can;t some crazy wheel hop and spin.
also does anyone know who makes a clutch for this thing i hate the one that is in it its blows

Right Lane
.295 r/t
2.351 60'
6.252 330
9.432 1/8
76.93 mph
12.182 1000
14.495 1/4 mile
96.74 mph

the car is stock and it was 40 degrees i was shifting at 6,200 and the car weight was 3,240 and i'm about 200 and i didn't gut anything.

Thats a pretty good time there. I know 87 or hookdup could fix it for ya!

I ran a 14.6 at 96.26mph with a 2.3 60ft a 9.51 1/8th at 75.33mph
completely stock, i was hesitant on taking it to the drag strip after owning a camaro that used to run low to mid 13's i didnt want to be dissapointed but the ss held its own. Launching a front wheel drive is a pain in the A$$. :)

Ran a 13.9 @ 101. Here is the slip:
http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/great-lakes-forum/6905-gm3saturns-13-996-time-slip.html

Ran a 13.9 @ 101. Here is the slip:
http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/great-lakes-forum/6905-gm3saturns-13-996-time-slip.html


Nice run! What type of car was in the other lane that is on the slip?

Newer Z28 (stock).

Newer Z28 (stock).


That is awesome! It looks like the Cobalt SS and RL will be able to run with and beat the stock newer Z28's with just a few mods. I can't wait for the Stage I-II updates.


Again, Nice run! :D

That is awesome! It looks like the Cobalt SS and RL will be able to run with and beat the stock newer Z28's with just a few mods. I can't wait for the Stage I-II updates.


Again, Nice run! :D
don't get ahead of your self there buddy. the slowest stock ls1 f-bod i've seen has run a 13.7. the average is about 13.4-13.5, with the faster factory freaks being 12.9's. you guys are close, but still a way to go.

the average trap speed for a stock f-bod is also between 104-106. just a heads up if you decide to run one from a roll.

the stage II's will most likely beat those times. good luck.

btw...
my car stock ran a 13.5 @ 106 mph with a 2.1 60ft.

don't get ahead of your self there buddy. the slowest stock ls1 f-bod i've seen has run a 13.7. the average is about 13.4-13.5, with the faster factory freaks being 12.9's. you guys are close, but still a way to go.

the average trap speed for a stock f-bod is also between 104-106. just a heads up if you decide to run one from a roll.

the stage II's will most likely beat those times. good luck.

btw...
my car stock ran a 13.5 @ 106 mph with a 2.1 60ft.


What you say doesn't surprise me I know how fast the last gen Camaro is but we do have a slip showing a Z28 behind the RL in that situation. I guess my point is with Stage II when GM puts it out, CAI, intake manifold, cat-back ect.. it will be possible considering the cars the skill of driver's and track conditions to consistently run with and beat a stock Z28.

Don't get your feathers ruffled Z28's and Camaro SS with the last gen are bad ass. I wanted to get one but I get snowed on in Colorado and the rear wheel drive didn't make as much sense if I needed it on a daily basis. Plus I know that with mods the Z28's get up and walk away. Although I'd take my stock SS over just about any Z28 in the slalom.

I knew this was the driver. He ran anywhere from that 14.1 up to a 14.7ish so yea, this guy was all over the place. But hell, I'll take what I can get. The best part wasnt beating this guy over and over again, it was getting all the remarks from the old timers like "did you just beat that camaro" and "thats fast for a saturn." Keep in mind this track is in the country and people are not to keen on "tuners" at there muscle car track. After well over 30 passes this season and working my way from a 14.6 to a 13.9, Im slowly getting some respect.

GM3, keep it up! :-)

ill get the time slip up once i get my scanner set up. last night i ran a 12.14 in the 1000 ft one time and a 12.2 a couple times. not bad considering it was my first time. sorry that its the 1000 ft but thats all we have in arkansas. oh that 12.1 was against an srt 4 and he got a 12.09. i also saw my buddy run his stock srt 4 into a 11.75 which was really nice. ill get them slips up soon.

was this time done at Centerville by any chance? I'm at college in Arkansas right now, so I ended up going to Centerville one night for fun, but I won't post the time since I'm not a cobalt SS.

Has anyone tried running some 16's or 15's with the right size tire on a stock cobalt ss/ion redline? I think that would help out the times a lot, trap speed is there (points at 100 mph trap with intake only), but 60' times are lacking. Keep the slips coming guys!

I knew this was the driver. He ran anywhere from that 14.1 up to a 14.7ish so yea, this guy was all over the place. But hell, I'll take what I can get. The best part wasnt beating this guy over and over again, it was getting all the remarks from the old timers like "did you just beat that camaro" and "thats fast for a saturn." Keep in mind this track is in the country and people are not to keen on "tuners" at there muscle car track. After well over 30 passes this season and working my way from a 14.6 to a 13.9, Im slowly getting some respect.
i'm sorry man, my comment wasn't meant to take away any credit from your race. good kill and i'm sure you'll have many more to come.

just wanted to let you guys know what the majority of fbod's run as a comparison for you guys.

First time at the track, to much wheel hop.
The good thing is there is only room for improvement
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/93/ts0be.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ha, I raced you that night :D ............... seems traction got worse as the night wore on, my first 3 runs were 13.5..'s with 2.1.. 60' times ........ eventually wound up getting 2.3.. 60's and progressively worse times, ran a 13.8.. against you.

my best time of the night is the slip on the right , all in all , it was an awesome night

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8127/black27gw.jpg

I'lll give you guys credit, I didn't know what to expect for 1/4 mile times for a CSS when I went searching on the net for them. I have a 2004 Hemi Ram and I am in the same boat as most of you, not enough performance parts out... I just wanted to check on some times for the Cobalts because there is one in my town that I kinda wanted to line up with. I think it would be a very good race, except that the CSS seems to be a dog off the line, mainly from the stick shift. Having an auto, I think on the street I could beat a CSS but at the track, you guys make up a lot of time at the end of the 1/4. Not sure if anyone cares, but my fastest run (bone stock) was a 14.757 @ 90.6

14.757 @ 90.6 is impressive for such a big truck...I raced one of them at a 1000' track a little while back and put a couple of cars on him, my GTP is right where the CSS s/c should be stock with a good driver, but it's really hard to launch them from what I hear.

90.6 mph trap speed with a 14.757 is kinda low, what was the 60' time? my 14.826 stock was @ 94 mph

Trucks lose ALOT on the top end due to having the aerodynamics of a brick. ;)

was this time done at Centerville by any chance? I'm at college in Arkansas right now, so I ended up going to Centerville one night for fun, but I won't post the time since I'm not a cobalt SS.

Has anyone tried running some 16's or 15's with the right size tire on a stock cobalt ss/ion redline? I think that would help out the times a lot, trap speed is there (points at 100 mph trap with intake only), but 60' times are lacking. Keep the slips coming guys!

been there done that...search drag radials and 16's on this site...

Here's the timeslip from my run. 60' is pretty good @ 2.086(same as the 13sec car in the other lane). It is pretty fast for a truck(4900lbs), especially when a Hemi is a production engine and can almost keep up with the Lightning's supercharged V8. I am pleased with the truck very much, considering I walked out the door paying only $23,000ish.

As far as the aero. of a brick, you are absolutely right. I still can go about 125-130 stock...aerodynamics of a brick << 345hp & 375ft/lb

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1808/timeslip1hf.jpg

tofu, that 14.1 was done with only intake and shifter on stock wheels and whatnot? If so, that 60' is amazing for those wheels!

VERY nice time! that gives me much hope for these cars :)

no way he got a 2.0 with stock tires....

They are stock tires.

tofu, that 14.1 was done with only intake and shifter on stock wheels and whatnot? If so, that 60' is amazing for those wheels!

VERY nice time! that gives me much hope for these cars :)


Yes, stock wheels and tires. I did lower the tire pressure down to 20-25psi from around 40psi on all my other runs...which accounts for my low trap speed. I actually had a higher trap speed on my 14.6 run than on my personal best lol.

Yes, stock wheels and tires. I did lower the tire pressure down to 20-25psi from around 40psi on all my other runs...which accounts for my low trap speed. I actually had a higher trap speed on my 14.6 run than on my personal best lol.
u run 40 psi in ur tires. peace out center tread

u run 40 psi in ur tires. peace out center tread

key word = around.

probably closer to 35.

New best!!

13.85 @ 101.99mph (http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6593/138medium5yu.jpg)

I made a post on the "other" cobalt site, you can view my other runs for the evening there.

so, who has the best track time on this forum?

My girl threw away my time slips!!!! Now I gotta go get more for proof, damn, it's faster than the previous post though, of course some believe I cheat (mods list) I say run what you brung...tried to go last sunday, but as it seems to do every sunday...rain rain rain...gotta get back ahhh!!!

Damn a 13.85 and a little over a 2.0 60. Dude really learned how to launch this thing. I believe I know how to launch it but I have yet to go to the track. Hopefully with my mods if TOFU can run 13.85 I can do a little better after some practice.

New best!!

13.85 @ 101.99mph (http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6593/138medium5yu.jpg)

I made a post on the "other" cobalt site, you can view my other runs for the evening there.

you still basically stock tofu? what's your secret?

you still basically stock tofu? what's your secret?


Nah I've got a pulley now. 3.0 ZZ pulley, ZZ motor mount, K&N intake, DC strut tower brace (waste of money as far as I'm concerned), and B&M shifter.

Nah I've got a pulley now. 3.0 ZZ pulley, ZZ motor mount, K&N intake, DC strut tower brace (waste of money as far as I'm concerned), and B&M shifter.
did your car come with LSD (G85)?

did your car come with LSD (G85)?


Nope, no G85.

very impressive! have you experienced any clutch difficulties?

very impressive! have you experienced any clutch difficulties?

Not much at all! I'm very very impressed w/ the stock clutch, I've had over 50 power shifts in it. The only time I experience slippage is if I lose major traction and instead of trying to correct it, I just lay into it...then the clutch will start to slip.

Hey man great times. Im just thinking what our cars will be capable with the stage 2 upgrades. Any realistic guesses???

Hey man great times. Im just thinking what our cars will be capable with the stage 2 upgrades. Any realistic guesses???
This is pretty realistic - a burnt up clutch. LOL they are weak. the should never slip if they are engaged fully then you hammer the gas. think about - either the tires will slip or the clutch. there is no way that I would ever accept that it is ok for the clutch to slip. period. that is not driver error, that is a $H!TTY clutch.

I am signing off before I get more heated. STAGE 2 CLUTCH AND LSD coming my way.

This is pretty realistic - a burnt up clutch. LOL they are weak. the should never slip if they are engaged fully then you hammer the gas. think about - either the tires will slip or the clutch. there is no way that I would ever accept that it is ok for the clutch to slip. period. that is not driver error, that is a $H!TTY clutch.

I am signing off before I get more heated. STAGE 2 CLUTCH AND LSD coming my way.

I agree!!! I tried to dyno my car with the corsa and a 2.7 and all i did was smoke the clutch! :eek: :mad: Still got 260hp :p Smelled like shi# in my for 2 days! Stage2+ and lightweight flywheel has been ordered!

I agree!!! I tried to dyno my car with the corsa and a 2.7 and all i did was smoke the clutch! :eek: :mad: Still got 260hp :p Smelled like shi# in my for 2 days! Stage2+ and lightweight flywheel has been ordered!
Read your Sig. your next mode should be adjustable cam gears. you probably could get another 10 to 20 HP depending. 0 to burnt out clutch in 4.3 seconds LOL.

Read your Sig. your next mode should be adjustable cam gears. you probably could get another 10 to 20 HP depending. 0 to burnt out clutch in 4.3 seconds LOL.

I like your last comment there, got a little laugh out of me. Yeah stock clutch sucks. I'll pretty sure that I'm going to install the Spec Stage 3 Clutch, dont know if i am going to replace the flywheel though. Depends on the money at the time, but 400 bucks is a lot of a flywheel that could be spent on other mods.

Heres my current Time Slip. I'm Stock. Bad Track Prep + Some wheel hop.
Still pulled off a 14.5.

Heres the slip.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/apsychoone/tslip145.jpg

Were could I order a stage 2 clutch?? Ive noticed that my clutch feels a little weak. How much would it cost?

Were could I order a stage 2 clutch?? Ive noticed that my clutch feels a little weak. How much would it cost?
turbotechracing.com $557.10

well i just finished running my car on the Gtec. 14.12 @ 101.7mph. well see when i go to a real track next week. These Gtecs are pretty accurate when used properly

I was car 874
FIRST RUNhttp://photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/th_trackday-1strun.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/trackday-1strun.jpg)
r/t: .623
60': 2.394
330: 6.658
1/8: 9.982
MPH: 73.30
1000: 12.846
1/4: 15.193
MPH: 97.55

SECOND RUNhttp://photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/th_trackday-2ndrun.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/trackday-2ndrun.jpg)
r/t: .153
60': 2.582
330: 6.803
1/8: 10.079
MPH: 74.65
1000: 12.886
1/4: 15.183
MPH: 99.16

THIRD RUN http://photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/th_trackday-3rdrun.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/trackday-3rdrun.jpg)
r/t: .563
60': 2.275
330: 6.247
1/8: 9.473
MPH: 75.49
1000: 12.259
1/4: 14.52
MPH: 101.26

FOURTH RUNhttp://photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/th_trackday-4thrun.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/Doc_SS/Cobalt%20SS/Track%20Day/trackday-4thrun.jpg)
r/t: .072
60': 2.499
330: 6.559
1/8: 9.809
MPH: 74.91
1000: 12.618
1/4: 14.929
MPH: 98.32

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f32/06css/DSC00154.jpg

Just an Injen intake!

Nice times guys.

Doc, are you stock? That 14.542@101.26 is a nice trap.

Nice times guys.

Doc, are you stock? That 14.542@101.26 is a nice trap.

Yeah man no kidding lol, I don't know what you did differently but bravo.

I have an intake, extruded/honed exhaust manifold, cat-back
Adam has an Injen intake, thats it.

Car ran mid 13's at 103-106 mostly with a slipping clutch.

I did get one really good pass in without any clutch slippage 13.2 at 106.

I'm Car #105... This was at Milan dragway last Sat 4-29-06


Yes, my Spec Stage 3+ clutch slipped. I was a bit pissed to say the least. The clutch started to slip once I hooked hard. I bought some 26x9.5x16 Hoosier QTP tires and the same rims Rob runs... Sport F6's. I didn't want to do any burnouts to heat up the tires in fear I was going to totally toast the clutch after that one pass. I just spun the tires a little and launched with the clutch slipping in 1st and on some shifts. When I did try to do a burnout the clutch would just let loose in 1st and spin right up. So I just barely heated the tires on each run. I was fighting for traction, but it was better then breaking anything like the clutch totally or an axel. I still wanted to drive it home after. 60foots were 1.96-2.1's. Looks like I still need to breakin the clutch more.


60' 2.0481 2.1159 2.1590 2.0989 2.0301 1.9690 2.0360

330' 5.9319 5.8888 5.9389 5.8659 5.7861 5.7660 5.6710

1/8 ET 9.0419 8.9481 8.9899 8.9531 8.8842 8.9902 8.6208

1/8 MPH 78.55 80.03 80.24 79.05 78.38 74.12 83.80

1000'ET 11.7061 11.5649 11.6089 11.6159 11.5689 11.7841 11.1039

1000'mph 92.17 93.95 93.55 91.83 91.10 88.60 98.43

1/4 ET 13.9230 13.7481 13.7940 13.8391 13.8158 14.0753 13.2009

1/4 MPH 102.03 103.18 103.42 101.50 100.68 99.29 106.13

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The car is very hard to dail in .Well at least for me it is :confused:

Stock 1/4 best 14.7 - I know it could have been better but that is all I could muster.

With mod's - GMS2, K&N drop in filter. Best 1/4 mile on first visit 14.1

Went for a third visit to the track, got 13 runs in, and was able to come up with a better technique and shift points to come up with 13.9 @ 101.6

slip here. I am 43. the other vehicle was a Dodge V8 with slicks which accounts for his great 60ft. He was surprised when I got him. man I want traction. I am aiming for 245/45r17 tires and wheels.

http://www.cobaltss.com/gallery/data/500/Gimili139.jpg

Stock 1/4 best 14.7 - I know it could have been better but that is all I could muster.

With mod's - GMS2, K&N drop in filter. Best 1/4 mile on first visit 14.1

Went for a third visit to the track, got 13 runs in, and was able to come up with a better technique and shift points to come up with 13.9 @ 101.6

slip here. I am 43. the other vehicle was a Dodge V8 with slicks which accounts for his great 60ft. He was surprised when I got him. man I want traction. I am aiming for 245/45r17 tires and wheels.

http://www.cobaltss.com/gallery/data/500/Gimili139.jpg

Nice 1/4 mile time man. What kind of Dodge V8 a modified pickup or something else?

http://www.helicon.net/nailers/jpg/13.77.jpg

No slip guys sorry our track sucks and doesnt give slips but has a time clock posted I ran a 15.3 @ 3600 ft elevation bone stock with a hella lot spin and by the way the track has a big bump in the 60 ft. i mean ur car jumps its an awful track.

You guys should revise this putting all of the updated times on the first page, so it's easily readable. Check out my list on the .net site and see what you think. Just a thought.:)

You guys should revise this putting all of the updated times on the first page, so it's easily readable. Check out my list on the .net site and see what you think. Just a thought.:)

how about you just post your time like everyone else so we dont have to click the mouse so many times? is it very difficult to type 3 characters?

Just for the info.... What is some of the fastest times a cobalt has ran? An how much money do you guys have to spend to get it there?

how about you just post your time like everyone else so we dont have to click the mouse so many times? is it very difficult to type 3 characters?


I don't understand what you mean. What are you talking about?:confused:

Nice 1/4 mile time man. What kind of Dodge V8 a modified pickup or something else?


Grey primered '70's Dodge short stepside with Mickey Thompson's and a licence plate said "MOPAR".

left the line very quickly as you can tell by his 60'. he was so amazed that I caught him. lol

Some video of some runs where I win, my shifter comes apart and I lose, and when I plainly just lose....LOL good time. the vid is a little dark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUJ_1_RNJpA

Just for the info.... What is some of the fastest times a cobalt has ran? An how much money do you guys have to spend to get it there?

Depends on if you're talking pro or ameteur *sp?* I know of some folks that updated to intense stage 5 and are hitting low 13's high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Then there are pro drivers hitting 6-7 second 1/4 mile time(s) *I can't remember if 6's or not but I know for fact 7's are being hit in the profwd class, in Super Street and Modified Mag are some of the recaps*

I posted this in anotehr section, and should have posted it here. I am sorry i dont have a scanner but i will list the time slip

R/T .643 (sucked)
60' 2.368 (sucked)
330 6.143
1/8 9.180
MPH 80.91
1000 11.809
1/4 14.022 (suprised)
MPH 101.94



This was my first run with this car on the track. I will be going back next week I hope, on March 24th

13.8@105
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r142/bridoc614/13.jpg

Bridoc, nice 1/4 slip....what mods do you have?

Just to post the times that everyone has said so far that I caught…

15.0
14.8
14.7
15.3
15.1
14.7
14.6
14.5
15.5
15.4
14.4
15.1
15.1
14.5
14.9
14.2
15.3
15.2
13.9
13.8

Seems like the majority of the runs are in the high 14’s and 15’s.

20 runs.

14 of them 14.5 seconds or slower…I would say that’s a majority.
:D

20 runs.

14 of them 14.5 seconds or slower…I would say that’s a majority.
:D

Due not all cobalts on here are supercharged some are the base models, SS N/A, etc.

Due not all cobalts on here are supercharged some are the base models, SS N/A, etc.

Well, you are supercharged. What do you run?

Just for the sake of arguement almost all those times were listed by people that had sigs as having supercharged Cobalts. ;)

Well, you are supercharged. What do you run?

Just for the sake of arguement almost all those times were listed by people that had sigs as having supercharged Cobalts. ;)
Ran it on an 1/8 mile and with horrible tire spin i still achieved a 9.96 which was what an SRT-4 was running that night. that would roughly be a low 14 in the 1/4 but then again that was the first time i had dragged that particular car.

Dude ive been at the track plenty of time just not with that cat. No the truth is not out i dont have to impress everybody, like you, you try soooo hard. But no one gives a shit. You make me dumber posting to you I thought it couldnt get any worse with some other people but your ridiculous. Oh considering the LS is an automatic and RWD im sure it did pull a better 60'. Apparently you have never driven a FWD car at the track. IT SPINS>

Dude, I'm no newbie to the race scene as yourself...been doing it for quite some time. Actually the last car the wife had was a FWD Accord Coupe. I had it done up and ran it at the track quite often. Never once did it take me 10 seconds to get to the 1/8th mile.

Dude, I'm no newbie to the race scene as yourself...been doing it for quite some time. Actually the last car the wife had was a FWD Accord Coupe. I had it done up and ran it at the track quite often. Never once did it take me 10 seconds to get to the 1/8th mile.

I guarrantee next time i go I will have a better time

I did much better on friday, 9.314 in 1/8 at 75.71. 0-60' 2.1

Good job dude don't let that jackass mess with you. FWD is tough. Traction owns us.

Good job dude don't let that jackass mess with you. FWD is tough. Traction owns us.

Seriously anyone can have a fast truck all you do is put in 4high and stall it out to about 2000 to have a good launch then just keep it matted until you cross the finish line. But a FWD car and trying to launch it is way harder a fast fwd drive owner in my opinion> automatic diesel. Agree?

supr thats not a bad run. A 2.1 short time is pretty solid for street tires. that would be a 14.5 in the quarter. heres a chart to conver your 1/8 to quarter times. It's pretty dead on.


Chart 8.5 and higher 1/8 mile ET:
1/8 ET 1/4 ET 1/8 ET 1/4 ET 1/8 ET 1/4 ET 1/8 ET 1/4 ET
5.00 7.80 6.75 10.53 8.50 13.26 10.30 16.07
5.05 7.88 6.80 10.61 8.55 13.34 10.35 16.15
5.10 7.96 6.85 10.69 8.60 13.42 10.40 16.22
5.15 8.03 6.90 10.76 8.65 13.49 10.45 16.30
5.20 8.11 6.95 10.84 8.70 13.57 10.50 13.68
5.25 8.27 7.00 10.92 8.75 13.65 10.55 16.46
5.30 8.27 7.05 11.00 8.80 13.73 10.60 16.54
5.35 8.35 7.10 11.08 8.89 13.81 10.65 16.61
5.40 8.42 7.15 11.15 8.90 13.88 10.70 16.69
5.45 8.50 7.20 11.23 8.95 13.96 10.75 16.77
5.50 8.58 7.25 11.31 9.00 14.04 10.80 16.85
5.55 8.66 7.30 11.39 9.05 14.12 10.85 16.93
5.60 8.74 7.35 11.47 9.10 14.20 10.90 17.00
5.65 8.81 7.40 11.54 9.15 14.27 10.95 17.08
5.70 8.89 7.45 11.62 9.20 14.35 11.00 17.16
5.75 8.97 7.50 11.70 9.25 14.43 11.05 17.24
5.80 9.05 7.55 11.78 9.30 14.51 11.10 17.32
5.85 9.13 7.60 11.86 9.35 14.59 11.15 17.39
5.90 9.20 7.65 11.93 9.40 14.66 11.20 17.47
5.95 9.28 7.70 12.01 9.45 14.74 11.25 17.55
6.00 9.36 7.75 12.09 9.50 14.82 11.30 17.63
6.05 9.44 7.80 12.17 9.55 14.90 11.35 17.71
6.10 9.52 7.85 12.25 9.60 14.98 11.40 17.78
6.15 9.59 7.90 12.32 9.65 15.05 11.45 17.86
6.20 9.67 7.95 12.40 9.70 15.13 11.50 17.94
6.25 9.75 8.00 12.48 9.75 15.21 11.55 18.02
6.30 9.83 8.05 12.56 9.80 15.29 11.60 18.10
6.35 9.91 8.10 12.64 9.85 15.37 11.65 18.17
6.40 9.98 8.15 12.71 9.90 15.44 11.70 18.25
6.45 10.0 8.20 12.79 9.95 15.52 11.75 18.33
6.50 10.1 8.25 12.87 10.00 15.60 11.80 18.41
6.55 10.2 8.30 12.95 10.05 15.68 11.85 18.49
6.60 10.3 8.35 13.03 10.15 15.76 11.90 18.56
6.65 10.3 8.40 13.10 10.20 15.91 11.95 18.64
6.70 10.4 8.45 13.18 10.25 15.99 12.00 Don’t Bother



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there you go HD a mid 14

Well, here you go everybody. Figured since I had my car a week already and have a whopping 500 miles on the odo, it was time to take her for a night of Test/Tune. ;)

Quick Background:

Car is Box Stock (no mods whatsoever)
Front tire pressure was set to 25lbs.
Jack/spare was left in the car
1/2 tank of fuel on board

I got in a total of 4 runs. First 2 were in the late afternoon (which at this E to W running track means racing directly into the setting sun). Weather conditions were good:

Clear
Temp - 49°F
Dew Point - 40°F
Humidity - 68%
Winds WNW - 4 mph

But looking down the track into the sun and then quickly glancing down to try to see my gauges - I couldn't see a freakin' thing. I was launching/shifting the car totally blind throughout the entire run!

Ran mid-hi 15's. ROLF

So I parked the car until the sun set. My next run (3rd of the night and 3rd run ever with the car) I launched pretty good. But on the 1/2 (lift throttle) shift, the tires spun so bad I had to lift up off of the accelerator.

Ycch! Another mid 15" run! :(

Well I was gonna call it a night, but cars started lining up for one last run (track was closing in 1/2 an hour). So I said what the heck, and gave it another try. This time ... everything went well! Decent launch, tires barked on the 1/2 shift, and I could actually SEE the gauges all the way through the run.

Here's what I got:

http://www.box.net/shared/static/gl5jh441tn.jpg

I'm elated! A 14.87 @ 95.6mph and it was only my 4th time racing the car, the engine wasn't even broken in yet, and I'm still 100% stock. :)

So that means mid 14's (stock) are within easy reach. But I won't be going back to the track again until I have at least a couple of thousand miles on the odo.

Lata all ...

You use what you have. You know if you had 4wd you would use it. My other 2 cars don't have 4wd and I still drive them just fine.

If it makes you feel any better I can still easily best your times in 2wd leaving the line with no boost.:D
Ok im sure it will also be about a second slower.

well i am racing at bandimere at roughly 5700 ft and i ran a 15.52 @ almost 91 mph. it was my 2nd time at the track with this car and i am completely stock as well. i'm hoping to shave another 1/10 or 2, but i think i ran as hard as i could for the altitude. had a 2.35? 60ft. i'll have to check slip in still in my car. but, overall, i was pretty impressed with it.

Well, here you go everybody. Figured since I had my car a week already and have a whopping 500 miles on the odo, it was time to take her for a night of Test/Tune. ;)

Quick Background:

Car is Box Stock (no mods whatsoever)
Front tire pressure was set to 25lbs.
Jack/spare was left in the car
1/2 tank of fuel on board

I got in a total of 4 runs. First 2 were in the late afternoon (which at this E to W running track means racing directly into the setting sun). Weather conditions were good:

Clear
Temp - 49°F
Dew Point - 40°F
Humidity - 68%
Winds WNW - 4 mph

But looking down the track into the sun and then quickly glancing down to try to see my gauges - I couldn't see a freakin' thing. I was launching/shifting the car totally blind throughout the entire run!

Ran mid-hi 15's. ROLF

So I parked the car until the sun set. My next run (3rd of the night and 3rd run ever with the car) I launched pretty good. But on the 1/2 (lift throttle) shift, the tires spun so bad I had to lift up off of the accelerator.

Ycch! Another mid 15" run! :(

Well I was gonna call it a night, but cars started lining up for one last run (track was closing in 1/2 an hour). So I said what the heck, and gave it another try. This time ... everything went well! Decent launch, tires barked on the 1/2 shift, and I could actually SEE the gauges all the way through the run.

Here's what I got:

http://www.box.net/shared/static/gl5jh441tn.jpg

I'm elated! A 14.87 @ 95.6mph and it was only my 4th time racing the car, the engine wasn't even broken in yet, and I'm still 100% stock. :)

So that means mid 14's (stock) are within easy reach. But I won't be going back to the track again until I have at least a couple of thousand miles on the odo.

Lata all ...

Worse excuse ever.

Leave and never come back.

well i am racing at bandimere at roughly 5700 ft and i ran a 15.52 @ almost 91 mph. it was my 2nd time at the track with this car and i am completely stock as well. i'm hoping to shave another 1/10 or 2, but i think i ran as hard as i could for the altitude. had a 2.35? 60ft. i'll have to check slip in still in my car. but, overall, i was pretty impressed with it.

The NHRA puts out an Altitude Correction Factor chart for their member tracks that require the correction:

http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/altitude.html

For supercharged/turbocharged cars, they use the "1/2" factor columns on that page. The closest track on that list to your altitude is Denver, CO (5800ft.). So here are the correction factors that you would use:

ET x .9702
MPH x 1.0281

Going by those conversion #'s, your corrected to sea level ET and MPH would be:

ET - 15.057
MPH - 93.56mph

That's a whole lot better than 15.52 @ 91 mph!

Actually I do know a little about what I am talking about and here's a little info. for you Mr. Dumbass...

The operative word here is "a little."

I drag raced a variety of 5L Mustangs for over 13 years and even won a trophy when challenged by a friend to bracket race (and it only took me about 3 or 4 weekends to do it).

So the difference between you and I is that you only have "a little" knowledge/experience, whereas I have ALOT of knowledge/experience. So as we say here on the Fire Department to those who are too green to know what they're talking about ...

"Keep quiet until you get some time under your belt probie."

All the runs I found where they were over about a 9.6 1/8th mile they were in the 15's.

As you have just witnessed from my recent post, I have just run a 9.6 1/8th - 14.8 1/4 mile time (box stock with only 500 miles on the odo and not even powershifting).

Therefore, your supposed "challenge" has now been answered - IN FULL.

So hush up already, and go play with your truck in a mud pit or something. Before you make a complete laughingstock out of yourself on these boards (if you havn't done so already).

This thread has been pruned, lets stay on topic about drag racing. Sharing times and maybe launching techniques, suspension mods, anything that can help us ET our Cobalts better.

This thread has been pruned, lets stay on topic about drag racing. Sharing times and maybe launching techniques, suspension mods, anything that can help us ET our Cobalts better.

I agree. Too many people's comments on this forum are a Waste of space.

'Bout time their lame asses got pruned.

As far as launching techniques go, I used 1500 rpm while quickly sliding out the clutch for my 14.87 sec. pass. When my car is finally broken in, I expect she'll do a whole lot better.

Thats some numbers MT.

Definitely not your DD.

Whats the skinny. Whats required to run a balt in the mid 12's?
turboconversion?
75 Shot Stage 2?

As far as the thread....Its called clutch modulation....rev off the line the amount that almost starts you spinning ,let it out and nail it.

Modulation

wheel spin is the enemy. You dont need so called traction mods that assist in stopping wheel hop. wheel hop is your friend in a FWD. you break traction, or wheel spin then the wheel hop alarm goes off. Practice pushing the launch up to wheel hop. technique includes no revving, no dumping the clutch, just let it out (clutch) and roll the throttle on, then shift at 5000RPM. after 5000 rpm is useless and you will be set for 2nd gear where you will be able to mat it without wheel spin. watch out for wheel spin at 4000 PRM though it can happen. may have to modulate at that point. then shift to third at 6200 RPM (actual engine RPM is at 6500 due to Tach LAG LOL) then you will be in third right at the beginning of our massive flat torque curve. run it out to redline and keep your foot into it untill you hit 106 to 8 MPH to be sure your past the finish. some people at different tracks think they have crossed the finish line and let off too soon....LOL. My technique for a 13.9 pass with GMS2 and a K&N drop in filter. I hope to do 12's with a tire change and bolt ons. wish me luck and dont rag on me or flame me for my goal. just wish me luck and hope it can be done. see my mod list. it is moddest. if I cant do it I will try porting the blower to get it done.

This is the only fast time slip I found I ran earlier this summer. I ran a 14.11 at 99mph. last summer so when I find that one ill post that one up as well but as of now hope this slip is good enough for now. I have videos of me racing on my myspace. U can look for me through my email which is pcolo2billion@hotmail.com. Most of my vids are 15's but thats cause I had to break 3/4 down the track so I wouldn't break out. I do have a vid were I run a 14.58. Ima try and post that one up in a bit.

My 14.02 run. Its from last year though. I ran this with my B&M shor throw shifter and an open intake set up. I couldn't have asked for anything better. The temp and humidity that day was perfect. That was the day were I represented stock cobalt SS's at the track. I got alot of respect that day and a trolphy. It was deff fun. Im hoping to be in the mid 12's next summer.

Mods:

-Open air box
-B&M short throw shifter
- I also set some ice bags on top of the supercharger and intake b4 the race

The left image is stock b4 this setup I listed above and the right is bout 2 months after. This year my times are slower but track conditions aren't that good this year cause humidity and I also have a harder profile tire this year.

It is really starting to cool down across the Country, those DA's are becoming more favorable, heres hoping that many of you will get out there and run some new personal bests!

School + Work = no track for me this summer. :(

Always next year, tho.

IS Jet stock?!?! If so then thats the fastest time Ive heard of for a CSS/SC!
.03 away from a 13.99!

Cuz an opened air box and a short shifter could still be considered stock if you are just talking about the engine... maybe?

Cuz an opened air box and a short shifter could still be considered stock if you are just talking about the engine... maybe?

That's a negatory.

But seriously wasey, whats a lil whole cut in an airbox gonna do? That's what Im gettin at...

But seriously wasey, whats a lil whole cut in an airbox gonna do? That's what Im gettin at...

Make the car not stock.:)

You're banned! lol
Alright, performance-wise, how much do you think the whole helped him out? Honestly... a .01?!?!

You're banned! lol
Alright, performance-wise, how much do you think the whole helped him out? Honestly... a .01?!?!

It can't be proven one way or another.

Yea The open air box all I did was take the old filter off and put a k&n cone filter as a replacement and then I left the box cap off instead of putting it back on. I don't think it adds much power but it does bring out the sound of the super charger. And the b&m is the other upgrade I have. Before these little mods I ran a 14.11 and that was last year and I'm trying to find the slip so I can post it. Yea I was really surprised when I ran the 14.02. Alot of people at the track gave me and my car alot of repect after that. People had know idea a cobalt ss can almost run a 13 time

you should make another room for other cars, im really intrested in the some of the upgraded SRT-4's

Last time I was at the track I saw a Cobalt SS and thought "sweet a cobalt!!" so I watched it expecting low 14s and it ran 15s, I was disapointed, but maybe the driver just was new at it. I'm glad to see thats not what it really runs if the driver is good, as I see from these posts.

man i wish this thread had more times then talk. ppl should just post times and thats it.

man i wish this thread had more times then talk. ppl should just post times and thats it.

Ya know I saw this on speed tv with Motorcycle racing....they said the new street racing is at the track with 90% trash talking and 10% actual racing..... that's all that's happening here....I think that is half the fun for folks....I know it is part of the fun for me if I'm doing some good hearted trash talking with somebody I know really well or a buddy that has his car.....especially a buddy of mine that just grabbed a Civic SI and threw a turbo on and my brother who has a V6 alero coupe but just threw on a super charger....it's all in fun.....

Has ANYONE broken into the 13's with a cobalt ss?

OH YES.... Matt 205 SS has hit 13.5 @105 I dont have his slip, but I can vouch for him.

What did everyone run with a stage 2 kit?

I've heard of guys/gals running 13.65 on the fast end with exhaust and manifold...others running around 14.4 at sea level depending on track condition and traction.

14.243 @ 99.98 mph stage 2

850ft ASL(above Sea Level) GMS2 and K&N drop in filter. 13.9 all I can say is practice and take time between runs to let clutch cool......LOL

I had a stage 2 Ion Redline that at best hit 13.9@102. I'm sure with sitcky tires and an LSD that worked, you could easly hit low 13's. I mean on every rear/AWD car I've seen a 102-105 trap speed it ran a 13-13.5 E/T.

My '08 Cobalt Sport 2.4L runs 14.9@93.8 with a vibrant 2.0 S/C header and a GM performance intake. Yes it's a manual.

I had a stage 2 Ion Redline that at best hit 13.9@102. I'm sure with sitcky tires and an LSD that worked, you could easly hit low 13's. I mean on every rear/AWD car I've seen a 102-105 trap speed it ran a 13-13.5 E/T.

My '08 Cobalt Sport 2.4L runs 14.9@93.8 with a vibrant 2.0 S/C header and a GM performance intake. Yes it's a manual.

how much did that supercharger cost you. my buddy has a 2.4 and hes looking to put one on.

All i have done is the airbox mod and cannot get below 15.21. 0-60 is 2.4 average. Is it the elevation? I think its 2000 ft. I launch fairly well, spin a little but after that I'm all in it. I beat a Infinity G37 on friday by like .2

Actually, the supercharger was on my redline. The 2.4 in my Cobalt has an intake and a vibrant header for a 2.0 supercharged cobalt. I don't actually have the supercharger just the header. That 14.9 was all motor. It ran the 14.9 once and ran consistant 15.0. The trap speed was always 93.84. I've kept up with a 2003 Mustang GT 5 speed, a Lexus GS430, and was quicker than a Lincoln LS V8. It just sucks to launch. The VVT is perfect at 3 grand and above. Below 3k it bogs bad, above 3k it spins the hell out of the tires. That header with the intake also kicked my fuel economy up from an average of 26-27 to 30-31. Oh and elevation at the track I go to is about 1700 feet.

I just ran on Sunday at Great Lakes Dragway. I ran a 14.77 w/ 3'' catless DP, 2.5 " exhaust ported polished stock exhaust manifold and an intake not too bad especially it being on a used motor motor and a warn out clutch.

u guys are hilarious. my 09 Malibu ran a 14.8 @98mph the first time down the track....the css has the same hp, and about 800 less pounds, but my malibu is running the same times? Time for the driver mod boys and girls.

First time to the track after going Stage 2. Best run was a 14.2 @ 101.2 mph. I was on stock tires so traction was absolutely terrible! My 60ft times were pretty consistent at 2.4/2.3. Elevation was 2000ft. I think at sea level with alot better tires I would be in the 13's

You can run 13's now!

Gotta work on that 60ft.

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but anywho, yah my 60 ft was killing me. I ran pretty consistent 14.4-14.5, but the 14.2 came out of nowhere. I think it had something to do with my engine temp, because before I ran it, I let it cool for about 1/2 hr.

No I am being serious. Get some ice for your heaton and get that 60' down and youre golden.

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but anywho, yah my 60 ft was killing me. I ran pretty consistent 14.4-14.5, but the 14.2 came out of nowhere. I think it had something to do with my engine temp, because before I ran it, I let it cool for about 1/2 hr.14.2 isn't that bad. A little more seat time and you'll be 13s! The single best mod you can make if you plan to get to the strip often is a set of sticky tires if you don't have them. You didn't mention your sixty time but I'd bet it was in the 2.3 area. Drag radials will easilly cut 4/10s off that.

14.2 isn't that bad. A little more seat time and you'll be 13s! The single best mod you can make if you plan to get to the strip often is a set of sticky tires if you don't have them. You didn't mention your sixty time but I'd bet it was in the 2.3 area. Drag radials will easilly cut 4/10s off that.

8/20's????

8/20's????http://bestsmileys.com/thumbs/5.gif

I did put them in the post, lol. But yeah, your right, it varied between 2.3 and 2.5. I probably won't be back to the track for a while until I do another upgrade because I already know the best time I'll get. But I will definitely look into some sticky's before I go. There's no point in putting more power into it if I can't hook worth a damn

I did put them in the post, lol. But yeah, your right, it varied between 2.3 and 2.5. I probably won't be back to the track for a while until I do another upgrade because I already know the best time I'll get. But I will definitely look into some sticky's before I go. There's no point in putting more power into it if I can't hook worth a damnBest mod I ever made. I was cutting 2.1 sixtys with the rare 2.0.on street tires. Went to M/T slicks and have been pretty consistant 1.7s with a rare 1.6. You guys have those weird sized wheels. What wheel options do you have?

Wheel sizes stock on the Cobalt SS? Or all the sizes for Cobalt??

They are either:
P195/60R15 15X6 4 on 100mm
P205/55R16 16X6 4 on 100mm
P205/50R17 17X7 5 on 110mm
P215/45R18 18X7 5 on 110mm
P225/40R18 18X7.5 5 on 110mm

2.5 60'
9.2 1/8th @ 85.6
11.8 1000'

13.96 @ 106.1

50* day on a car with TOO much power, on a cold track, on stock 215 tires!

My old car BTW: 2006 SS/SC 2.7, meth, GMPP header, ZZP downpipe, 3" magnaflow catback, and custom tuned by me!

60' are make or break.

absolutely... That would have been a nice low to mid 13 run if I would have gotten any traction at all at first!

+1

Did you have any traction mods?

I had the rotated mounts from ***, and an ingalls... didn't need anything more...

The track was just ICE cold and had poor prep, making for crappy 60's and ET's!

I'm going back this summer, with warmer track temps and better prep I promise 13.1's if not quicker will be had, with my new LNF

Well just got back from the track yesterday. it was nice, it was around mid 60* out and it wasn't too packed. I was having a rough day for launching as the track was sticky at the line then lets loose about 10 feet after the line, so traction was a BIG issue for me in first or second. But anywho, here are my 3 best times and runs:

1. .7489 RT
2.24 - 60
5.91 - 330
8.88 - 1/8
83.36 - 1/8 mph
13.573 - 1/4
103.81 - 1/4 mph

2. .9722 RT
2.23 - 60
5.92 - 330
8.89 - 1/8
83.27 - 1/8 mph
13.55 - 1/4
104.60 1/4 mph

3. Best run - .862 RT
2.25 - 60
5.89 - 330
8.85 - 1/8
83.10 - 1/8 mph
13.539 - 1/4
104.43 - 1/4 mph

I know my reaction times weren't too good. It was hard for me to see the tree, but I still somewhat managed. What do you guys think? That's a 09 TC, with only a tune.

not bad. get those 60' down and I could see you in the 12s.

yeah, I need to get the launch down better for that track. On the streets I can get great launches, but at the track, I can't seem to get it down too good.

Do you dump your clutch? Are you on DRs?

No I don't dump off the line, I do an ease into, then let off after I'm rolling about 15-20mph. No, I'm on stock street tires at 20psi. I mean the times aren't bad at all for what I've got, I know that, but I know I can do much better.

Git them 60's down.... and once we get your tune nailed down we'll get ya in the low 13s

I thought he was already tuned?

Tuned ss/tcs need to be in the 12s.

I thought he was already tuned?

Tuned ss/tcs need to be in the 12s.

He is tuned, just not completely nailed down... it's a conservative tune right now!

He'll get it done the the rest of the way on April 4th

I don't wana be a dick but anyone here get the Cobalt 60' down below 1.8 seconds we have got our SRT4 down to a 1.6 and its trapping at 130 mph with a et of 10.7

I really like the Cobalt turbo and think it should be a very fast fun car and I'm thinking of getting 1 to play with

Not sure about the turbo, but with the SS/SC it is hard to get the thing to hook up, either wheel hop (there are mods to help) or wheel spin (somebody needs to post up 60 foot times with slicks maybe) are really tough with this car.

I second that the SC are a bear to hook up. Here is my slip im on the right. I don't know why it's so small. Sorry. .175 RT 2.347 60' 14.785 at 96.63 mph

Wheel sizes stock on the Cobalt SS? Or all the sizes for Cobalt??

They are either:
P195/60R15 15X6 4 on 100mm
P205/55R16 16X6 4 on 100mm
P205/50R17 17X7 5 on 110mm
P215/45R18 18X7 5 on 110mm
P225/40R18 18X7.5 5 on 110mmYea I was talking about a 15 inch wheel in the 110 bolt pattern to mount a slick on.

Is anyone using the Launch Control on the '09 TC or not? I was wondering how much of a difference it makes. I wanted to take my car to the track this weekend, but I didn't make it.

Here is my best slip so far. My mods are stock airbox mod with k and n drop in, catless DP, muffler delete, trifecta tune, and a set of slicks.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww108/cmiller8006/20090822_1.jpg

wow.... sweet time...

wow.... sweet time...

Thank You....

nice times, Those slicks help alot? lol

Thank You....

if you would be so kind, young man, share with us type/size of slicks and at what rpm you launched at...

if you would be so kind, young man, share with us type/size of slicks and at what rpm you launched at...

The slicks are 26/7-17 MT motorcycle, I still had 18 psi in them and launced at about 3500 rpms. Next time at the track I am going to launch at the launch control setting and see what happens.

Mr. CMiller...I have a question. How's your tranny holdin up to the slicks? I was gonna grab some myself for this season at the track. I just got the multi-stage trifecta tune and I have similar mods. If you have a chance, let me know. Thanks. Nice times and thank you for posting the time slip.

Mr. CMiller...I have a question. How's your tranny holdin up to the slicks? I was gonna grab some myself for this season at the track. I just got the multi-stage trifecta tune and I have similar mods. If you have a chance, let me know. Thanks. Nice times and thank you for posting the time slip.

I am curious as well...plus where are his mods listed? I am looking at an upgraded SC for my car and will need slicks eventually.

I am curious as well...plus where are his mods listed? I am looking at an upgraded SC for my car and will need slicks eventually.

his mods are right above the timslip in his post.

his mods are right above the timslip in his post.

I see that now...also that he is SS/TC....ya I need to do some more mods to my SC and plan on getting another ride here in the next couple years...time to find something rear wheel drive with an LS1/2/3/6/7 motor in it...or go rice and get an EVO IX or X. We'll see....

I see that now...also that he is SS/TC....ya I need to do some more mods to my SC and plan on getting another ride here in the next couple years...time to find something rear wheel drive with an LS1/2/3/6/7 motor in it...or go rice and get an EVO IX or X. We'll see....

GTO's can be had rather cheap now-a-days....

a G8 GXP would be bangin!

GTO's can be had rather cheap now-a-days....

a G8 GXP would be bangin!

I have always liked the GTO! You have any strut leaking front inner tire rubbing problems with yours?

With the G8 GXP, how have you liked yours? I also would be interested in the monte carlo ss from 2007 or so. Is there a big difference in performance between the two?

my GTO hasn't had any strut rub issues, it is lowered 1 inch in the front and uses Pedders struts. A LS4 Monte SS is a nice car, but you are limited to what parts are available for the 5.3 V8. And, it's FWD. Car has good 0 - 60 but then falls off, gearing sucks. My 2006 Monte SS is my workhorse, I removed the mufflers and resonator and just run straight pipe, and she sounds like a dream to me... a G8 GXP would kill the Monte. The Monte would put up a fight early on, then fade away..

my GTO hasn't had any strut rub issues, it is lowered 1 inch in the front and uses Pedders struts. A LS4 Monte SS is a nice car, but you are limited to what parts are available for the 5.3 V8. And, it's FWD. Car has good 0 - 60 but then falls off, gearing sucks. My 2006 Monte SS is my workhorse, I removed the mufflers and resonator and just run straight pipe, and she sounds like a dream to me... a G8 GXP would kill the Monte. The Monte would put up a fight early on, then fade away..

Good word! I think bang for buck the GTO would be the way to go out of the 3, but the GXP is a VERY Attractive looking car to me. I had a 2002 Monte SS, not a great performer but I loved the car.....we'll see what I can find out there.

I can post the slip later but here is my first time at the track:

Whats up people!

I went to dial in my car at Sacramento Raceway (which BTW is one of the worst prepped tracks in California) and managed a best of 14.723 @ 96.996mph!

I did manage to beat a lot of Mustangs out there too! To put this into perspective, a stock ~2007 Mustang GT best run there way 14.6. And the pre-2000 mustangs GTs were finishing @ 15.6!

My buddy's bore over 302 to a 306 with heads, cam, intake, msd, cat delete and throttle body ran a best of 14.48. I am so mad and happy at the same time because I thought that I was going to be trapping a lot faster more like a flat 14.0 or breaking 13s. But hey, it was the track. 350Zs were running 15.0s and a stock Genesis N/A ran a 15.6 at best.

The slip read as follows:

Reaction: 0.678 (I know, it was slow)
T1: 2.467
T2: .000
T3: 9.647
MPH (T3): 75.126
I4: 12.411

ET: 14.723
MPH: 96.996

^^BEST RUN OF THE NIGHT. 2nd was 14.829 @ 94.297 mph. 3rd was 15.040 @ 93.703 mph. 4rth was 14.963 @ 95.109 mph. And my last run was the WORST: 15.326 @ 96.646mph.

Here's the timeslip from my run. 60' is pretty good @ 2.086(same as the 13sec car in the other lane). It is pretty fast for a truck(4900lbs), especially when a Hemi is a production engine and can almost keep up with the Lightning's supercharged V8. I am pleased with the truck very much, considering I walked out the door paying only $23,000ish.

As far as the aero. of a brick, you are absolutely right. I still can go about 125-130 stock...aerodynamics of a brick << 345hp & 375ft/lb

No offense but are you kidding me!>>>> "can almost keep up with a Lightnings supercharged V8" ???WTF??? The Lightning would DESTROY you!
I'm very impressed with the times and mph that your truck runs but brother you wouldn't stay anywhere close to the big supercharged V8 even if it was the earlier lower horsepower version.
The term "almost keep up" implies you are within a truck length or two and maybe 2/10ths @ the VERY MOST behind. Any stock lightning would be over a half a second ahead of you and several mph!! You also ran a pretty impressive 60ft. time so there is no way you'd improve much on that time without some mods and once you start talking mods the Lightning would inhiliate you dollar for dollar.
Why do so many people have to B.S. about what their vehicles can do? You have a great truck but it is what it is. Just be happy with it or sell it. I get sick of hearing the catch phrase "Hemi" oh wow "she's got a Hemi in her" Oooo Ahhhh that engine is as similar to the original "Hemi" as a Coblat is to the Cavalier or a handgun is to hot dog. Gimme a break! Yes it's cool but get real...the track is truth serum so let's make some realistic comparisons already!

lololololololololololol. Do people think before they type.....

yea the dude with the truck is high lol but my time for my cobalt TC was 12.78 at 114mph then after that run we did bracket racing i was so excited then ran a 18.7 at 56mph because i blew my cold air intake off lmfao lol was done for the night

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