Hey everyone, I am considering installing a small (maybe like 50 or 75 shot) of Nitrous (most likely dry shot from NOS Nitrous) however I have a few questions seings how this is the first car I would have nitrous on. Firstly I am leasing the car and was wondering if there would be a way to install the kit so if I had to un-install it there would have been no trace of having it on the car. Also which kit do you guys think would best fit our car? Would there be anything else I would have to purschase beside the kit (ie engine parts) or could I spray with a stock engine? Any help would be much appreciated, thanks guys!

I'm curious how well this car takes to N2O myself...free bump!

I'll let you know that after this friday. I got that guy w/ the yellow CSS talking trash and he "supposedly" has N2O on his car. I am wanting him to run once regular then once w/ nitrous to see the difference.

Not to hi-jack the thread but omega your sig is awsome

Hey Guys,
This is my first post on hear but I have browsing for a couple weeks now. I currently have a yellow 05 SS and have begun my engine modification. In a few hours I will have installed my nitrous kit. It is the Zex Progressive Shot System, works it's way up to around 55 HP. My local performance guy suggested it and he has not lied to me yet. It has controls that will not allow it to run too lean or too rich and guarantees it's HP numbers. According to my local shop the supercharger will almost double the power from this nitrous. Not only will it cool the air allowing the supercharger to compress more and cooler air, there will be the HP gains from the actual n2o itself. I will post some pictures and time slips on friday, as that is our track day and we got rained out last weekend. Can't wait to try this out.

Hey everyone, I am considering installing a small (maybe like 50 or 75 shot) of Nitrous (most likely dry shot from NOS Nitrous) however I have a few questions seings how this is the first car I would have nitrous on. Firstly I am leasing the car and was wondering if there would be a way to install the kit so if I had to un-install it there would have been no trace of having it on the car. Also which kit do you guys think would best fit our car? Would there be anything else I would have to purschase beside the kit (ie engine parts) or could I spray with a stock engine? Any help would be much appreciated, thanks guys!

Go with a wet kit. And I would splurge for a window switch. You should be fine with a 50 shot, I don't know about 75, but I would try the 50 first. NX arguably has some of the best kits on the market, so you should check them out. Hope that helped a bit.

depends on where it's plumed on which kit you need correct? the way he was saying it would be in front of the blower, he should definitely use a dry, and not a wet

hey YELLOWSS who installing your kit? im hoping it doest rain on friday either. im going early so i can get a couple of runs in and reserve a spot.

Go with a wet kit. And I would splurge for a window switch. You should be fine with a 50 shot, I don't know about 75, but I would try the 50 first. NX arguably has some of the best kits on the market, so you should check them out. Hope that helped a bit.
Yes, I agree. Go with a smaller shot first to see how well it takes to it.
The wet/dry question is more a matter of safety. Wet is safer to run than dry since it's mixed in with the fuel, but then again like someone else posted it depends on where it's plumbed in.
There's a guy over here with a Firehawk running a God-knows-what-but-it's-damn-fast DRY shot. Of course, they also called him the "engine-killer" in a recent newspaper article.

Well I called a local vendor who sells and installs nitrous kits, and he said that the best kit for a supercharged car would be a wet shot, and that it didn't have to be direct ported and he said that it could easily be uninstalled if I needed to take the car in for warranty work or when I am turning it in when the lease is up, and he said that there would be no post evidence of it after it was uninstalled. His estimate was 1100 for a 50 wet shot installed, however I didnt ask him what kit that includes... i'll be going in with my car on Friday. He said that the switch can be installed in several different spots, or I could have an on off switch, when turned on and the gas floored all the way it sprays, which sounded good, but then again I burn through first so fast as it is I dont think I would be good enough at shifting in time so I'm not too sure yet. Anyone on this forum who has nitrous that could give me some pointers?

Well I called a local vendor who sells and installs nitrous kits, and he said that the best kit for a supercharged car would be a wet shot, and that it didn't have to be direct ported and he said that it could easily be uninstalled if I needed to take the car in for warranty work or when I am turning it in when the lease is up, and he said that there would be no post evidence of it after it was uninstalled. His estimate was 1100 for a 50 wet shot installed, however I didnt ask him what kit that includes... i'll be going in with my car on Friday. He said that the switch can be installed in several different spots, or I could have an on off switch, when turned on and the gas floored all the way it sprays, which sounded good, but then again I burn through first so fast as it is I dont think I would be good enough at shifting in time so I'm not too sure yet. Anyone on this forum who has nitrous that could give me some pointers?

Well yeah depending on where it is plumbed like everyone is saying determines if you want wet or dry.

$1100 installed sounds like A LOT! I was thinking $500-$700 installed at the most. For everything you need. Here is an awesome thread that you should read before you start spraying... http://focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11534.

For $1100, the kit should be fully programmable, meaning you can tell it when to spray and when not to. Like no spray in first, spray in all of 2nd and all of 3rd. Anyways read that thread before you buy or have a kit installed.

there will be the HP gains from the actual n2o itself.
There wil be gains from the added oxygen, not from n2o.

There wil be gains from the added oxygen, not from n2o.
Correct! :D Smart man there!

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Please edit your previous post and delete all that crap, it is jaking up the thread, I know you have contributed to this thread with earlier posts but that last post deffinetely needs to be deleted.

Please edit your previous post and delete all that crap, it is jaking up the thread, I know you have contributed to this thread with earlier posts but that last post deffinetely needs to be deleted.
Laugh. I'm sure that once a Cobalt SS/SC forums FAQ gets built, there will be a load of N2O information in it gleaned from the forums itself.

I believe the best you can do is probably ( depending where you plum the nozzle) is to have another intake hose on the side. No matter what, drilling a hole may be needed. Or you can hide it underneath & put in a rubber plug so there will be no air escape. ;)

There wil be gains from the added oxygen, not from n2o.

Sorry about that, obviously you know what I mean though :cool: ...anyway the kit is on now and tomorrow night at Freaky Friday in Fayetteville, NC is where it will be tested out. Should have some good videos uploaded within the weekend. It was installed by Competition Auto in town and installation and parts total came to about $720...wet is the way to go with a supercharged car...will keep everyone updated...

Sorry about that, obviously you know what I mean though :cool: ...anyway the kit is on now and tomorrow night at Freaky Friday in Fayetteville, NC is where it will be tested out. Should have some good videos uploaded within the weekend. It was installed by Competition Auto in town and installation and parts total came to about $720...wet is the way to go with a supercharged car...will keep everyone updated...


Cool... gives up stats!

You guys going direct port or before the blower? Every company we've contacted and talked to an actual person, has suggested NOT spraying before the blower. Everything from possible explosions of the blower from a compressed air/fuel/n20 mix, to the intercooler fins having gas pool up on them, changing you metered shot.

Quite interested in it myself. Just want to find the safest way for me and the engine. Some of the GM people we talked to said a direct port is the only safe, professional way to install it on the LSJ.

How many of you are running juice right now? I know of one or two Redlines, all going preblower wet shots. Everyone I talk to without a Redline/Cobalt/Cobra thinks that's nuts.

ZEX suggests going with the injection before the blower for best results - They say that forced induction vehicles really benifeit from this and its totally safe...

ZEX suggests going with the injection before the blower for best results - They say that forced induction vehicles really benifeit from this and its totally safe...

That's odd... we had a member contact them and say the exact opposite... :confused:

Did you talk to an actual tech?

I wouldn't spray before the blower since you don't want to compress fuel inside the supercharger. I know some ppl have done that without any problems so far, but it's a risk you should at least consider.

And I think that ZEX even did an install on a Mustang Cobra spraying before the eaton. I wouldn't worry so much about the rotors getting messed up (I think that would take a lot of spraying), just the off chance that you spray at some point when there is a lot of heat built up in the supercharger and the fuel/nitrous mixture detonates inside the blower housing.

Check out the NXL and NOSzle systems that work in conjunction with the injectors. Also a direct port system might be a bit hard to plumb into the runners since they aren't exposed very well.

Check out the NXL and NOSzle systems that work in conjunction with the injectors. Also a direct port system might be a bit hard to plumb into the runners since they aren't exposed very well.

The guy that contacted NOS about that was told not to use it on the LSJ. Something about the sealing of the injectors with the kit? I had never heard of it till yesterday. Anyone have any more info on it?

Yes, I talked with one of the techs.

Yes, I talked with one of the techs.

I HATE trying to get straight answers... lemme go look. Maybe I was wrong about what he posted...

Man, I don't know where it is now... too many nitrous posts over there...

It seems people are getting different answers from the same companies. Which worries me.... here was our latest discussion on it if anyone cares....

http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4167

Sorry about that, obviously you know what I mean though :cool: ...anyway the kit is on now and tomorrow night at Freaky Friday in Fayetteville, NC is where it will be tested out. Should have some good videos uploaded within the weekend. It was installed by Competition Auto in town and installation and parts total came to about $720...wet is the way to go with a supercharged car...will keep everyone updated...


Since 05yellowss hasnt replied yet about his new nitrous kit...Im going to say that it really livens the car up. I rode with him to freaky friday and we pulled up beside my friends srt4(stock). They started in 3rd and the srt4 was pulling, then in 4th the cobalt walked past the srt4. I have it on camera. Im just waiting to get the software to upload it. :)

There are hundreds of GTPers running the N2O in, dry or wet, thru a TB-spacer that's drilled and tapped for a N2O nozzle. That should work just fine for you guys.

Since 05yellowss hasnt replied yet about his new nitrous kit...Im going to say that it really livens the car up. I rode with him to freaky friday and we pulled up beside my friends srt4(stock). They started in 3rd and the srt4 was pulling, then in 4th the cobalt walked past the srt4. I have it on camera. Im just waiting to get the software to upload it. :)

Yep, I finally got the chance to post now...IT WORKS!!! That's all I really have to say, what more do you need? It adds some serious power, and I am still only running a 30 shot! Andre (gravity) is right we walked the srt...hope he gets that video up soon, poor keith, you can hear him yelling "NOOOO!!!" on the video as he had to shift and i still had more power in the 3rd, it was great! It ended up running 14.4 (spraying in 3rd) on stock tires on a pretty UN-prepped track, 13's are in site, just got to work on that launch, he has some good video of the runs at the track too (Get on that right away Andre!) well any questions I will happily answer about the car and/or setup. Going 55 shot soon!

not to be a downer or anything but i thought these cars were suppose to do 14.4 stock, if i can't do that stock i am going to be very disappointed

not to be a downer or anything but i thought these cars were suppose to do 14.4 stock, if i can't do that stock i am going to be very disappointed

well I suck at driving, I can admit that, it's all about that launch and I have had this thing for only about 2 weeks, not roasting the stock tires is tough i must admit, plus the track we were at really, I mean REALLY sucked!!! I didn't even get to make a pass in the better lane the whole night, maybe next week...

They run 14.4 +/- .2, depending on about a million variables.

Hit that juice coming off a long turn, into the back straight of some road course.... mmmm.... BIG lap time improvements...

How are you running, a wet shot before the blower?

They run 14.4 +/- .2, depending on about a million variables.

Hit that juice coming off a long turn, into the back straight of some road course.... mmmm.... BIG lap time improvements...

How are you running, a wet shot before the blower?

it's a wet shot, progressive zex kit, before the blower yes

Pretty impressive, beating a stock srt4 with nitrous. lol

Pretty impressive, beating a stock srt4 with nitrous. lol

It's just my luck that most of the srt's around here are stock or stage one, and either one isn't a challenge anymore, just ordered gm performance pistons, aluminum ported head and high rpm crank so here I come stage 2 and 3...

Well I'am stage one, if you don't think I'll be a challenge, step up to the plate. Of course I'm over a full second faster than you.

Well I'am stage one, if you don't think I'll be a challenge, step up to the plate. Of course I'm over a full second faster than you.

Coming to freaky friday? I'll be there so we can find out...got a few new tricks, don't plan on anything better than 13.5 though, oh well, there aren't really any parts for my car yet so on down the road who knows what will happen, guess we will see...got some really good parts for you cobalt ss guys if you want some parrt numbers, I've been doin some serious research and well, pm me if you wanna know some more info, it isn't cheap though...

It's just my luck that most of the srt's around here are stock or stage one, and either one isn't a challenge anymore, just ordered gm performance pistons, aluminum ported head and high rpm crank so here I come stage 2 and 3...

I'd watch what you say about stage one SRTs in the Fayetteville area. I got a feeling your going to get your feelings hurt, big time.

BTW: there are at least three Stage 2 cars running around here.

I'm one of them.

I'd watch what you say about stage one SRTs in the Fayetteville area. I got a feeling your going to get your feelings hurt, big time.

BTW: there are at least three Stage 2 cars running around here.

I'm one of them.

I'm not dissing anyone, damn. Sorry if anyone took it that way, you got to admit that most are stock around here, sorry to everyone for the misunderstanding. Not trying to start stuff at all, just saying it's going to get more fun as these parts come out, isn't that what our hobby/sport is all about? A little friendly competition, so let's keep it friendly, from now on I won't post while I'm pissed off at work :o , hope to see you guys out there though and I'm not going to be hurt if I lose, it's all part of the building process. Peace...

I'd watch what you say about stage one SRTs in the Fayetteville area. I got a feeling your going to get your feelings hurt, big time.

BTW: there are at least three Stage 2 cars running around here.

I'm one of them.

Ditto on that one, all we are saying is watch out and dont get too big b/c you beat a guy that cant drive his car all that well yet..

Ditto on that one, all we are saying is watch out and dont get too big b/c you beat a guy that cant drive his car all that well yet..

Gotcha, Like I said, sorry about that...I was tired and didn't mean to start sh*t...I like srt's so I am in no way dissing

Gotcha, Like I said, sorry about that...I was tired and didn't mean to start sh*t...I like srt's so I am in no way dissing


No offense taken here. I'm all for the US Compacts sticking together. It was real lonely out there being the only real US compact. With the Cobalt SS and Saturn ION Redline there is the possibility of real competition.

Its sad when the imports hate you 'cause your not an import (and you keep smoking the shit out of them) and the V8's hate you 'cause your not one of them (and you've smoked a few of them)... 03-04 were hard years for some of us SRT owners

See you around.......................... :D

ummm i think its just the opposite. there are more srts that are not stock than those that are stock

ummm i think its just the opposite. there are more srts that are not stock than those that are stock

correction: there are more srt's that ar not stock who post on forums, whereas in real life, they're mostly owned by kids who can't even drive them right. and they're stock too.

correction: there are more srt's that ar not stock who post on forums, whereas in real life, they're mostly owned by kids who can't even drive them right. and they're stock too.

Your correction is noted.

So your saying that most SRTs are 1/ owned by kids 2/ not driven correctly 3/ mostly stock.

How old are you? 18...

You have alot of time behind the wheel?

What are the "mods" on your Cobalt SS? K&N Drop in filter...
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I just don't get what you posted this brain nugget for.

Don't worry about the "majority" in the stock SRTs... its the minority you need to watch out for.

BTW// I'm sure ftbraggsrt4 was talking about the fayetteville NC area when he said there are more modified cars than stock.

ooops i meant in fayetteville.

ooops i meant in fayetteville.

I figured as much. Some people are too quick to jump without thinking.


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When are we going to see the Yellow SS at Sam's again?

The ION Redline has been there hanging out with us. I'd like to see all three of the recent US Sport Compacts out there...

i saw a black SS today. not sure if he's on forum

Hey fort brag dude i'll be in the area by the end of the year if you get a chance to get up by lejeune in jacksonville we can meet and chat for a while and maybe goto the local strip.

so did we ever decide if there was a way to put a nitrous kit on a car and make it so that you can take it off so that it looks like it was never there? because im in about the same position as the original poster, i leased my ss too, and nitrous sounds like fun

So far ive seen a Black, Yellow, and Red SS i saw the black one at the mall on monday and around town a few times

When are we going to see the Yellow SS at Sam's again?

The ION Redline has been there hanging out with us. I'd like to see all three of the recent US Sport Compacts out there...[/QUOTE]

Well, I've got to work for one more weekend(thurs-monday mornin) The next time you will see it is at freaky friday I guess, your gonna be there right? I can't wait to try out the new tires and the upgraded n2o jets, and the pulley, and the new induction, and...guess I should stop there, no one get offended this time ok? Just playin, why does everyone have to start shit, I haven't had the time to modify completely yet, or much at all, it has potential and hopefully the new clutch/drag radials combo is gonna cut that wheelspin, well that is if they come in, the tires haven't even been made at BFG yet, they need to hurry up wit that sh*t....they did say 2 weeks and that was 1 1/2 weeks ago...

i just need 2 ask how much shot can the ss/sc handle?

i just need 2 ask how much shot can the ss/sc handle?

Our bottom end is coated, better than nothing, not as good as forged, but it will handle a 75hp shot(wet suggested) with no problems...that's what I am now using...gonna post that video and/or timeslip of a 13-second cobalt (ie MINE) after this friday...

When are we going to see the Yellow SS at Sam's again?

The ION Redline has been there hanging out with us. I'd like to see all three of the recent US Sport Compacts out there...

Well, I've got to work for one more weekend(thurs-monday mornin) The next time you will see it is at freaky friday I guess, your gonna be there right? I can't wait to try out the new tires and the upgraded n2o jets, and the pulley, and the new induction, and...guess I should stop there, no one get offended this time ok? Just playin, why does everyone have to start shit, I haven't had the time to modify completely yet, or much at all, it has potential and hopefully the new clutch/drag radials combo is gonna cut that wheelspin, well that is if they come in, the tires haven't even been made at BFG yet, they need to hurry up wit that sh*t....they did say 2 weeks and that was 1 1/2 weeks ago...[/QUOTE]
TIRE QUESTION?!
Will 255/50R16s clear up front on the Cobalt?! There's not much room because of the strut. My guess is a 225/50R15 or 225/45R17. I have the 255s on my 28 and they're PRETTY wide. I guess if you get a rim with reverse offset it might work. But then comes the height, that tire is 26 inches tall, stock is 24 inches tall. The 255s are close to 10 inches wide and 2 inches taller than stock. Fill me in man, because Frankie is looking to buy drag radials and I told him to go with the 225/50R15 and find a set of steel rims. That way the height is still about the same and there's more sidewall than the 17" rim. The thing is finding steel rims to fit the 5x110 bolt pattern AND clearing the calipers. But I don't think the size you're looking at is going to work because you still have to steer the car. And what clutch are you going with?

Frankie's Cobalt went 14.28@101mph 2 weeks ago on a .036 jet. That's a dry shot before the blower before the MAF. We installed the water injection this past weekend and he's getting drag radials before his next trip to the track. I predict ETs in the 13.80-14.0 range. I really wouldn't recommend a wet shot before the blower. The way the intake/blower setup on these cars is setup creates a higher than normal risk of fuel puddling. The intake tract is mainly below the intake ports and the fuel/nitrous mix must be sucked up into the combustion chamber. Me, I wouldn't trust a wet shot before the blower. It works, but I think the risk of a lean condition is far greater than a dry kit. If you go wet, I'd say direct port only because of the way the intakes are setup on these cars. Fuel puddling is always an issue ESPECIALLY in fuel injected cars which have intakes that weren't exactly designed to flow fuel+air, and the low mounted intake and the intercooler fins add to this undesirable effect.

And to answer anyone's question, a .036 jet(55hp) is about the largest shot you can run in a dry setup with the stock configuration due to fuel requirements. The stock ECM didn't provide enough fuel for the .038 jet and caused a lean condition and the car responded with bucking and loss of power under nitrous runs. We installed the alcohol kit to hopefully cure the fueling problem.

[QUOTE=DarricksZ28]Frankie's Cobalt went 14.28@101mph 2 weeks ago on a .036 jet. That's a dry shot before the blower before the MAF. We installed the water injection this past weekend and he's getting drag radials before his next trip to the track. I predict ETs in the 13.80-14.0 range. I really wouldn't recommend a wet shot before the blower. The way the intake/blower setup on these cars is setup creates a higher than normal risk of fuel puddling. The intake tract is mainly below the intake ports and the fuel/nitrous mix must be sucked up into the combustion chamber. Me, I wouldn't trust a wet shot before the blower. It works, but I think the risk of a lean condition is far greater than a dry kit. If you go wet, I'd say direct port only because of the way the intakes are setup on these cars. Fuel puddling is always an issue ESPECIALLY in fuel injected cars which have intakes that weren't exactly designed to flow fuel+air, and the low mounted intake and the intercooler fins add to this undesirable effect.

The nitrous system I use turns out a perfect air/fuel mixture because stock I was running slightly rich, my n2o jet is a .041 jet I believe, have to look at my jet chart again, well the tires do fit, and with enough offset wheel it will fit a 315/50/16, problem with that is the wheel with that offset and 10 inches wide is 1200.00 each. But my tires do fit, there is about 1/2 in of clearance between tire and strut at 25psi. I will find out what the offset is for you guys as soon as I can, yeah 255 is wide thats what I had on my bagged s-10 and we had to cut serious metal out for that so I know what you mean there. I'm looking at mid to high 13's on friday, hoping for no rain. well, gotta get back to work but we can talk more about this later...

O sorry, forgot about the clutch, its the one from gravana, stage 3. (gravanatuning.com) there is also an exedy stage one available, peace

So you're saying you spent 2400 dollars on wheels?! How is steering? Got any pics?

So you're saying you spent 2400 dollars on wheels?! How is steering? Got any pics?

No way! the 1200.00 wheels are for the 315/50/16's I have the 255/50/16's
I will upload some pics from my camera tomorrow or after freaky friday this weekend, thats where the real action is going to take place, that 13.8 sounds pretty good, we allready have some video of racing an srt-4 (and winning) but the software needs to be installed to upload that stuff, I'm in the process of assembling another motor right now, well all the parts to add onto this one anyway, all I'm really missing is the $3,799.95 crankshaft, but mine is forged allready so I don't need it, but I really would like to have that 7500rpm redline option vs. only 7200 rpm with this one, were looking at around 400hp before nitrous without upgrading to a turbo, think I'm going to stop there as soon as I get the parts in, gas is getting expensive, if you ever get a chance to come up this way, our club is Aggressive Behavior we would love to have some more SS's, so let your buddy know, really like to get with him on any info we can share on performance, word is we can now semi-hack our ecu's with a reprogrammed Tech-2...

No way! the 1200.00 wheels are for the 315/50/16's I have the 255/50/16's
I will upload some pics from my camera tomorrow or after freaky friday this weekend, thats where the real action is going to take place, that 13.8 sounds pretty good, we allready have some video of racing an srt-4 (and winning) but the software needs to be installed to upload that stuff, I'm in the process of assembling another motor right now, well all the parts to add onto this one anyway, all I'm really missing is the $3,799.95 crankshaft, but mine is forged allready so I don't need it, but I really would like to have that 7500rpm redline option vs. only 7200 rpm with this one, were looking at around 400hp before nitrous without upgrading to a turbo, think I'm going to stop there as soon as I get the parts in, gas is getting expensive, if you ever get a chance to come up this way, our club is Aggressive Behavior we would love to have some more SS's, so let your buddy know, really like to get with him on any info we can share on performance, word is we can now semi-hack our ecu's with a reprogrammed Tech-2...

So where did you get the rims? And there isn't any clearance issues what so ever? Actually my buddy doesn't have a clue about performance. I tell him what he should get and he gets it. So I'm quite interested in your wheel/tire setup. Get those pics up as soon as possible, man.

So where did you get the rims? And there isn't any clearance issues what so ever? Actually my buddy doesn't have a clue about performance. I tell him what he should get and he gets it. So I'm quite interested in your wheel/tire setup. Get those pics up as soon as possible, man.

No clearance issues at all, it's all about that offset!!! I got the rims at a local shop, it took about a week of calling around to finally find an offset and bolt pattern that will hold a drag radial that size without getting custom wheels...pics will be coming soon

Just a tip... so you guys don't have to order brand new wheels.

Old Toyota pick-ups(mid 90s) have a 5x110 15inch wheel with a really good offset. I think, not for sure. You guys could probably get 2 for like 60 dollars at you local junk yard, just look around. ;)

Just a tip... so you guys don't have to order brand new wheels.

Old Toyota pick-ups(mid 90s) have a 5x110 15inch wheel with a really good offset. I think, not for sure. You guys could probably get 2 for like 60 dollars at you local junk yard, just look around. ;)

problem is, they aren't 16's, my calipers right now with the 16's i have the drag radials on, have only 1/4in in between the wheel and brakes, 16in is as small as you can go on any ss/sc without getting smaller brakes, and why would we want that? cool to know though, thanks

Just to fill in the cobalt owners here, the srt4 that got beat was a stock one, and it barely got beat in a roll on, and no cobalts at freaky friday could even get out of the high 14s, so they weren't touching any srt4s. Hell one srt guy offered to race a ss cobalt and he declined.

Yea i heard about that, no Cobalt owners would step up all night

Yea i heard about that, no Cobalt owners would step up all night

Here we go again, knew that was gonna come up...dammit guys I blew my clutch on the first run, it's ok though, I'll be back next month with some more stuff, thought this was going to stay friendly, enough talking smack k? You guys have had a lot more time to find parts, practice driving, and opportunity to save $$$ to get mods...and by the way the fastest time was 14.1 all night, not bad for a shot clutch, but not what I was going for, let's keep it nice huh? I didn't decline, I knew I was screwed after the first run and didn't wanna talk sh*t if I knew it wasn't even a race...who would do that :confused: ...peace

Here we go again, knew that was gonna come up...dammit guys I blew my clutch on the first run, it's ok though, I'll be back next month with some more stuff, thought this was going to stay friendly, enough talking smack k? You guys have had a lot more time to find parts, practice driving, and opportunity to save $$$ to get mods...and by the way the fastest time was 14.1 all night, not bad for a shot clutch, but not what I was going for, let's keep it nice huh? I didn't decline, I knew I was screwed after the first run and didn't wanna talk sh*t if I knew it wasn't even a race...who would do that :confused: ...peace
Clutch problems? Was it caused by the sticky tires? 14.1X@what? My buddy went 14.28@101mph on street rubber. What was your 60ft? You're spraying out the gate? His run was a 2nd gear hit. Is there any way you coyld give me the specs on those rims?

Clutch problems? Was it caused by the sticky tires? 14.1X@what? My buddy went 14.28@101mph on street rubber. What was your 60ft? You're spraying out the gate? His run was a 2nd gear hit. Is there any way you coyld give me the specs on those rims?

Sure I can get the specs of the rims for ya, let me tell you, they just barely fit!!! The amount of nitrous I'm spraying is just way too much for the stock clutch to have any holding force. I was going to spray out the gate but when I'm in high revs of 3rd and spray and the clutch breaks loose then out of the gate is out of the question, the tires are awesome though for the launches, NO spin, well unless I want them to anyway...the 14.1 was @ 104.9, I gained all my speed right from the beginning of 3rd spraying and SLIPPING, I can't wait to have this new clutch installed and getting them mid-low 13's, next month it will happen...

Hey, thanks. You're going with the Gravana clutch I'm assuming. Nice mph! 104, is definitely mid 13 territory. Do you have the PSI kit or nitrous only?

Hey, thanks. You're going with the Gravana clutch I'm assuming. Nice mph! 104, is definitely mid 13 territory. Do you have the PSI kit or nitrous only?


So far it's only the nitrous, can't get the clutch til payday, gna get good times I believe, justy gna get that lightweight flywheel while I'm at it, so we will see what happens, then I'm gonna get it tuned and dynoed on spray and without.

a .036 jet(55hp) is about the largest shot you can run in a dry setup with the stock configuration due to fuel requirements. The stock ECM didn't provide enough fuel for the .038 jet and caused a lean condition and the car responded with bucking and loss of power under nitrous runs. We installed the alcohol kit to hopefully cure the fueling problem.Darricks
You can easily cure the lean right up to a 75+ shot with a Boost-A-Pump amplifier (MSD or Kenne Bell) combined with a different FP relay and a 10 or 12 gage rewire to the pump and the FP ground. (otherwise the amp burns out the the wiring - as we found out!)
The stock FP wiring is only 16 gage. We then bypassed the FP circuits in the fuse block and stock FP relay using a big 30A Bosch unit. We connected the switch to B+ right off the main cable at the FB and ran 12 gage all the way back to the pump. Use a testlight to determine which of the terminals on the fuse block (where the old relay was removed) gets "hot" for 2-3 seconds when the IGN is turned on and use THAT to control the relay (so it still works like stock) Will email you a schematic if you want one (PM me)

Only real hassle is you gotta pull the fuel tank, as the sender will need to be removed for the new wiring to be added directly to the pump. After pulling the stock wires out, you can drill the grommet out with a 1/8" drill bit (IIRC) to pass the 2 wires thru.

It's a bit of work, but a lot cheaper than injectors (and w/o the idle problems) PLUS you can dial up your amplified FP voltages to match whatever boost levels you want. And if you do it right it can all be pretty well hidden.
So far our pumps never missed a beat (other than the melted wires) but we were told to make sure you keep the fuel tank at least 1/4-1/3 full to keep the FP cool when it's running at 22 volts!

HTH
WOT

You are the greatest! This wouldn't happen to be the neat trick a certain person is using to save some money? I'll pass the word. It might be a little more work but it provides adjustability which is what we need. Awesome info WOT.