I finally got to race one!!!.. I was on my way home and he caught up to me . 1 race we were doing about 60 and I was in 3rd and so was he.. We hit it on 3 and we were side by side for not long he pulled a head from me and beat me by a car lengh and half at least.. 2 race we were doing about 40 I was in 2nd gear and so was he... We hit it and we were side by side all the way to about 120 until we shut it down.. It was fun to see what my SS has for balls and the SRT-4 are pretty quick I would say all over there power has to be in 3rd and the SS power is in 2nd gear for sure.. He both pulled over and shot the shit for awhile pretty cool guy...

sounds good, was he all stock? are you?

Stock vs Stock

Good run! It is also nice to hear when we all get along.. :D

B.S.











J/k man nice runs. I can't wait to run a SS/RL. Should be good times.

I so want to run into one on the autobahns over here.
Find out what the top end REALLY is on a 4-lane highway that doesn't have any speed limits.

racer...I've read a few of your post. I smell a troll.

How many do you see? I live in a city of 2.5 million, and I've only seen 1 other SS

street racing is illegal. that is all.

funny how some srt guys love to brag how they will stomp cobalt's. It's kind of a "no shit sherlock, you have an aftermarket" response to those people.

BTW, where in town are you at?

yea uh the srt-4 runs a best of 13.6 stock and the cobalt the best ive seen is 15's.. wow what a competition.. im glad i got some mods for my srt so i wouldnt get stomped by expensive tq. monster cobalt :o

Now we are back to this magical 13.6 SRT-4. PROVE IT!!! One video proves nothing.

And how are you guys talking crap about the Type-R wing?? It is more functional, lighter, and better looking then the wing on the SRT-4?

I have never seen 2 guys gobble each other's balls sooooo much. Grow up! And learn to have some respect.

nice wing homo. clean the rice off it then tear it off completely
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5229/diaf6lk4ju.gif (http://imageshack.us) you obviously don't know sh!t about JDM. stick to your mopar and don't disrespect what you know nothing about kid. show me one thing that is rice about my car. everything on it is either JDM or OEM so you can justhttp://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4774/stfu1cs.gif (http://imageshack.us).

I think from the wing, and the rims, he has STi envy...

that or he's trying to be JDM y0!
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2594/644373urgay4qi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thats what i thought... JDM powah....

thats good for what... 20 horsepower?

Maybe some japanese TYPE R stickers will make you go even faster... :rolleyes:
yeah, at least 20hp but that doesn't help me much when your mom is in my passenger seat giving me head.

srt owners unite back on over to srtforums when you get your asses banned from here!

the srt-4 came with a wing that was wind tunnel tested and designed by mopar and factory installed. for one we can actually get up to 160 mph and have more than 10 tq. cute rsx type "s" though lol
MOPAR FO LYFE!!!1ONEELEVEN

Ok plain and simple MR JDM, the car cant get up to speed where the wing is useful. It is a FWD car. Read up before you claim stupid shit. And this whole JDM thing is annoying. Dayum gooks have all the white boys yelling it now!
wow, this coming from a neon owner that is also fwd. :rolleyes:

when you stop lying about your top speed, then you can post here...

when u dip below 15's and smoke a cobalt ss u can put the wing back on.. deal??
wow, trolling at it's best. my car is very capable of hitting 14's thank you.

Hmmm... you guys decide for yourself...

http://japanimport.no/pris_eksempler/SUBARU/1999_Impreza_WRX-RA_STi_6/SubaruSTi-RA_html_1574ecd7.jpg

VS..

http://img208.echo.cx/img208/9448/rw3237s8wa.jpg


big wing.... check...
gold rims.... check..

STi Envy.... check
functional wing....check
$610/ea rim......check

both cars look better than a neon....check

Oh a mom joke. Just what i would expect from JDM.
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5528/careometer1ai.gif (http://imageshack.us)

lol theres several times and links on srtforums under drag racing. done several times. i think what helped is we actually have tq and a engine that doesnt required to be swapped like a ricer to make more than 250 whp

It's hilarious how little you both know. I've been in a RSX when it topped out at 168 without a turbo or internal work. :cool:

And no that 13.6 has NEVER been proven. There is one video of it and no proof its stock.

Get lives!

so again ur car doesnt come with the wing STOCK.. um u cant go 160 mph, and u have no tq. yes good call.. mopar for life.. im staying over here lol
guess you haven't visited your acura dealer lately. those wings do come stock w/ them. http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8514/boredom2ui.gif (http://imageshack.us)

lol the speedo says 160. i know it sucks cause urs cant go that fast but ull get over it. first step is to sell that pos tq. less wonder and get a real car.

OMFG the SPEEDO says 160... so OBVIOUSLY you can go that fast. why don't you get off mopars dick? and btw... i have TWO cars already... whereas you drive an overpriced neon.

Yes but ours has been proven to work since our car can get up to speeds where it helps a front wheel drive car.

And get that POS wing off there. The pics speak very loudly!
i would love to see your neon.

lol the speedo says 160. i know it sucks cause urs cant go that fast but ull get over it. first step is to sell that pos tq. less wonder and get a real car.
my speedo goes up to 160 as well. :rolleyes:

do you believe everything you read in a magazine? now i think you're the troll.

ive heard this time and time and time again.. wheres ur proof?? what a troll
haha, you are calling me a troll. :p

yea a neon that whoops both of ur cars asses. u can reply when ur car makes some tq. ill see u a tranny and engine swap later. it does 155 #rolls eyes.. its ok ur slow.. maybe ull get lucky and crumple ur car so u can get a fast one this time around

whoops both of my cars asses at what? having the shittiest interior and build quality? and it still doesn't change the fact that your car only does 150.

If u paid 610 for each rim then you sir are the dumbest SOB i have ever seen!
bet my 18's weigh alot less than your rims. lol

LoL. I am in Dallas Texas. And no i dont have a wing any longer. C/F rules all!
post the pic.

yea id like to see go that fast.. hit me up in a year when the 9k vtec kicks in and finally gets u there. ill even drive u to the engine shop to get ur new motor dropped in so u can make more than 20 tq after u blow this one up

20 what now? 20 torque? i didn't know torque was a unit... i guess you're in what... middle school, and your daddy drives a neon... i mean srt-4 and you like to be all on his nuts.

lol not that huge pos.. and if it does why?? oh wait so rice boys like u can eat it up.. 600 a rim.. how about investing in something useful like tq.. loser
oh i'm so sorry my car can't compare to your mopar masterpiece. http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4069/715ru.gif (http://imageshack.us)

yea id like to see go that fast.. hit me up in a year when the 9k vtec kicks in and finally gets u there. ill even drive u to the engine shop to get ur new motor dropped in so u can make more than 20 tq after u blow this one up
i'm not stupid enough to try to drive it that fast. unlike you i have a life that is worth living. i hope you go that fast one day and have a tire blowout and get wrapped around a tree or pole.http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5806/actionsmiley0656ry.gif (http://imageshack.us)

And you counter the weight with a goofy ass heavy "JDM" wing!
yeah, cuz it weighs 1.2lbs. :rolleyes:

No u dont wanna go that fast cause u might hurt one of ur 2440 dollar rims!
that's another good reason not to try it.

And you counter the weight with a goofy ass heavy "JDM" wing!

You keep insulting the wing???? Why? Like I said it is more functional, better looking and lighter then the SRT-4's wing. So what's the deal? Do you like sounding uneducated?

... yea dont worry we're all embarrased for u grandpa.. nice zinger though :o

nice comeback with the granpa joke that makes no sense you retarted cum guzzling white trash wannabe street racer.

im glad we finally agree. id take this over any rsx.. mostly cause id have tq. and id actually be fast. and thats a fmic that i can install on my stock car without blowing shit up ala rsxslow

http://www.tripleduo.net/joey/cooler3.jpg

hey look! it's still a fucking neon!

Ok, uneducated, you say. Learn to read all the posts. The SRT wing has been wing tunnel tested and proven to benifit the SRT. Please keep up, we have stated this more than once.

HAHAHAHAHA... WING tunnel testing. learn to fucking type you srt-4 cock slut.

im glad we finally agree. id take this over any rsx.. mostly cause id have tq. and id actually be fast. and thats a fmic that i can install on my stock car without blowing shit up ala rsxslow

http://www.tripleduo.net/joey/cooler3.jpg
those mopar eyelids must be the reason you have so much tq. clean car overall. it's a shame you have to be a troll and just start arguements.

im glad we finally agree. id take this over any rsx.. mostly cause id have tq. and id actually be fast. and thats a fmic that i can install on my stock car without blowing shit up ala rsxslow

http://www.tripleduo.net/joey/cooler3.jpg





HAAHAHHAAHHAHA! You call DC5 a racer??? You have painted calipers and eyelids. RICER! So are you stuck in the 11s, like all the other SRT-4s? Yeah what a great car, can't break 10s. I can run 10s for less then 5k in my car.

yea and u still drive a cavalier.. wow ur so much better than us :rolleyes:

yea... because the cobalt isn't on a completely new platform wheras your srt-4's underpinnings are, what? a decade old...

Ok, uneducated, you say. Learn to read all the posts. The SRT wing has been wing tunnel tested and proven to benifit the SRT. Please keep up, we have stated this more than once.
my wing has been tested as well. :rolleyes: you think dodge is the only one that does it?

Wow your best comeback is a typo and mom jokes. Sad, Real Sad!

whereas you srt-4 fucks took at swing at my granpa? yeah... that's real fucking mature.

Ok, uneducated, you say. Learn to read all the posts. The SRT wing has been wing tunnel tested and proven to benifit the SRT. Please keep up, we have stated this more than once.

And like I keep saying, so was the type-r wing and guess which created more downforce???? The type-R wing. Also it's wind tunnel testing. 3rd grader. :rolleyes:

Getting ur car up to 60 isnt testing.
show me proof that the srt-4 wind tunnel tested your wing on your neon.

Wow the frame is Neon. But the engine is what....not!

oh yeah... and the engine in my ss can be found in every cavalier dating back to the late 80's. go...FUCK yourself.

i dont see how they tested it on that slow pos. does it needed for slowing down to pull over when bo brown stops them? it obviously isnt used for going fast
i'm guessing you have a dodge emblem tatooed on your forehead.

you know... even IF my car was anything close to a cavalier, i'd still take the cavy over the POS neon. have fun replacing your dodge tranny!

Its called the INTERNET. Look it up JDM.
you can do the same then. ;)

they dont need it any many cars anyway. its just a throwaway if u want to make any speed at all. ull have to get a real engine to go above 250 crank hp and zero foot pounds of tqtqtqtq

OH yea... i'll get right on replacing my engine since it has 0 ft-lbs of tq. as soon as you get to replacing... everything about your neon.

we dont need to replace anything noob.. thats u remember?? gm wrote u a manual to be fast for the cavalier. its basically one page long and reads: replace everything if u want to be fast like the srt-4 is with stock everything
that manual was how to make what 700 + hp? in REAL LIFE, i don't have to replace any of my internals to get my car to rape the shit out of yours.

for the record, i could have gotten either an srt-4 or an ss. i chose the ss, cuz it gets more pussy, and it's NOT a neon.

OH, and last i checked, dodge was cutting the srt-4 after this year. i wonder why... maybe because the neon platform sucks ass... just a thought

Wow where have u been. That is the least of our worries. Our Engines can handle up to 550whp and the trannies arnt what was in the original neon. Oh wait you have to have a complete rebuild to get over 250.

it doesn't matter if your tranny is dif from the stock neon, it's still a dodge tranny. which means you'll be replacing it pretty soon.

Plain and simple. Steve Anderson out of Houston Texas built a 505whp and 485 lbs or torque in his DAILY driver srt. Stock internals. That is impossible to do in a Cavalier.

"I have heard this soooo many times... wheres the proof"? I thought it was 550whp??? Why do you keep changing your story? T

its on my penis. since my cars fast and actually has tq. chicks dig it and they get real horny after they see my tatted salami. i tried to describe it the best i could since with a honda i know uve never been in that situation

that's assuming you actually HAVE a penis.

First off, raping barn animals doesnt mean u gets more pussy? Gets? wtf?

And no, you dingle berry shit head. The manual was steps to reach goals all the way to 750whp. And yes at 250 the internals had to be upgraded. Wow ours start at 230. hmmmm
hence where i asaid 700 + ... you dipshit. and this is all assuming that you can read.

lol cause its 10 y/o like u said. the srt-4 is only three y/o and they're already moving on. the cobalt ss is probably gonna run for 10 y/o and continue being a slow stock pos cav. we're getting an all new srt-4 (with no neon tag so u dumbasses have zero arguments in the 07 model year.. ur done lol) and an all new evo 10. both awd turbos. the ss is gonna get whooped up by 2 different dodges and u cant call it a neon anymore while we can still dog ur zero tq wonder cavalier.

So uneducated. If you knew anything the EVO 10, you would know that it will be all Mitsubishi. And the Razor looks like a giant roller skate so we will still have arguements. :D :D And where is the proof it will be AWD??

lol cause its 10 y/o like u said. the srt-4 is only three y/o and they're already moving on. the cobalt ss is probably gonna run for 10 y/o and continue being a slow stock pos cav. we're getting an all new srt-4 (with no neon tag so u dumbasses have zero arguments in the 07 model year.. ur done lol) and an all new evo 10. both awd turbos. the ss is gonna get whooped up by 2 different dodges and u cant call it a neon anymore while we can still dog ur zero tq wonder cavalier.

that is BULLSHIT. the whole 07 srt-4 is a rumor in the srt forums. dodge isn't gonna make an awd srt-4 for 07... you think i know nothing about what dodge's plans are? instead of a neon your getting the awsome caliber... whoohoo a fucking hatchback, just what everyone wants. and the evo 10 is being built by dodge now... yeah... ok.

lol this is an afterthought on our mind. we slap a high performance clutch in and call it a day. meanwhile ur thumbing through ur GM bible and replacing ur entire engine and drivetrain
oh yeah, you just slap on a new clutch and call it a day.. until your tranny explodes, or you slip a gear.

And if u took the time to read i stated steps. It shows how to get ur car threw all the horsepower levels to 750 u moronic monkey humper

"mornonic monkey humper".

i retract my previous statement. you are in elementary school. what like fifth grade?

Actually it is a Dodge/Mitsu project. Not all Mitsu at all.

actually it's all mitsu, and all the dodge fanboi's are trolling the forums calling it a dodge/mitsu project thinking they'll get left behind. now you're on mitsubishi's nuts too?

500-550.. pt is ur slow. get some tq. and come back. see u back never

What does your car run? In the qtr.? Come over to Bako and I bet I walk your car on the street.

the srt-4 came with a wing that was wind tunnel tested and designed by mopar and factory installed. for one we can actually get up to 160 mph
Yes, but the wing does nothing for you at those speeds.
I know, I swapped mine out for an SXT wing to avoid the "boy racer" crap.
At 150+mph on the autobahns, no change in handling. There's "Wind tunnel" testing and "real world testing". The SRT-4 was NOT "tuned" on the Nurburgring like the Viper was.

ok i have an srt-4 so i actually know stuff about it just like u know about ur cavalier. i only joke about shit that i know about the ss.. like its slow and has zero tq and runs 15's. so dont go commenting on stuff u know nothing about noob. btw homo yes there is going to be a caliber.. i never said their wasn't going to be.. but if u knew anything at all before u made a stupid ninny troll out of yourself u woulda done some research and seen there is no production code for a caliber srt-4. the new evo 10 (whether its a mitsu or doge) is going to destroy u. im gonna laugh my ass off when u get ur ass handed to u 3 fold.. by old neon srt-4s, new srt-4's, and evo 10's. of course u win the real race with ur kick ass interior though :confused:

there is no NEW str-4. it's gone after this year along with the neon. dodge isn;t going ti build a replacement unless they have a suitable base model. i know how the fucking srt models work. dodge won't have an srt model without the base model. the only new four cyl base model they have is the caliber. so, unless they are going to have a caliber srt-4, then the srt-4 is dead. ALSO, dodge has NO part in the evo 10. mitsubishi is highly capable of building it on their own and doesn't want to share the wealth with dodge. so where you pulled this whole dodge/mitsu joint venture from, i don't know. but don't fucking lie to me about shit that i know more about then you. just cuz you drive an srt-4 doesn't make you an expert on dodge. i've done more research on dodge then both of you srt fan bois put together.

remember we're not talking about a high perf. cavalier here. im sure ur just paranoid since u have to swap trannys and then still worry about it grenading cause u might be making too much power.. God forbid u have any tq.

no, it's just something dodge has never done right... transmissions. i had the one in my ram replaced at 30k miles because it couldn't handle some REAL torque.

Dude you are dumb as hell. I own 3 mitsu's. But the difference between me and you I read up on stuff online daily. Other than about my own car.

oh and since you have these three e-mitsubishi's, that makes you an expert on everything.

Street Racing is Illegal! I know you arnt driving a cavalier and thinking u are gonna "walk" a SRT now are you. Dreams are a good and wonderful thing, but please dont get them confused with reality.

You are right I drive a POS import with a better interior then you. Come to Bakersfield its not too far, 100 dollars says I walk you. :D And I have no turbo or blower. ;)

don't seem too cocky wasey, these srt faggots might get scared and not want to race.

u stupid idiot. read my response a lil closer. u close minded tool/ troll. think about it.. dodge evo 10 chassis and awdrivetrain. u got it now?? (retard voice) do i have to talk like a retard for u to understand? get back in car and cuddle next to ur best interior trophies and magazines. why wouldnt they give the evo to dodge. they have made a big name for themselves whether u like it or not with the srt-4 (probably cause it actually has tq. for starters) and mitsu sells for shit. it only makes sense for dodge to market the high powered 4banger and still carry on their srt-4 nameplate for an afforable racer.. (with tq to boot)

mitsu won't give the evo to dodge because that takes away from their sales you fucking retard. car companies don't WANT to help each other. you think mitsu gives a shit about dodge's srt-4? no, they don't, and the evo 10 chassis will never even get close to the dodge nameplate.

No just this years cavalier. Cause once chevy realizes it is a POS they will cut the shit off.
That's awesome coming from the owner of a car in it's last year of production, as opposed to it's first. If it were SUCH a great car, they would keep going with it, no matter how old the basae model was.
And no, you dingle berry shit head. The manual was steps to reach goals all the way to 750whp. And yes at 250 the internals had to be upgraded. Wow ours start at 230. hmmmm
The GM Build book he refers to, says to change out the internals of the 2.2L (non supercharged) motor to the internals of the 2.0 S/c ones. Go do some research of your own before bashing this engine so quickly.
low 13's on street tires u?? i hope ur faster than a mustang gt or a 350z from a roll with bolt ons or ur finished before u even started :rolleyes:
So now you're stock SRT is runnin low 13's? Your times keep gettin lower and lower every post you guys make. Awesome

Oh yea he challenges from 4 states away where they cant even give their people real gas. 91 octane.....hahahaha!

oh, now even your gas is better. you really are the most arrogant son of a bitch i've ever had to put up with.

Since Mitsu fucked themselves with warranty issues and the such.

oh, yeah, and dodge's warranty is better then jesus. go kill yourself srt fanboi

Such violence from a cavalier driver. And how is it arrogance? Everyone knows cali gas is shit. they have a low ass octane rating. >LoL< dont put up with me....go to bed so u can be well rested for school tomorrow lil tyke.

no, i'm not leaving for college til next week, you better get to bed though, i'm sure summer camp is gonna be great tomorrow. maybe they'll let you finger paint!

when did i say i was stock?? u were doing better staying quiet and making us sandwhiches where u belong. i have some bolt ons and i have tq. so i can be fast on street tires. i know u dont know the feeling. its not too late.. u can still buy an srt-4 at ur friendly dodge dealer
Making sandwhiches? That was awesome. Let me tell you. And what makes you think we are all torqueless wonders? You are one of the most retarded trolls in a while. Your only claim agains us is torque? I'm glad you have such a big list of complaints. It's good you know my car was a better deal than yours, and it came with a better motor too. I also probably paid almost 10 grand less than you. I'll be back in the morning to see if you had any thing else slightly intelligant to say.

That's awesome coming from the owner of a car in it's last year of production, as opposed to it's first. If it were SUCH a great car, they would keep going with it, no matter how old the basae model was.

The GM Build book he refers to, says to change out the internals of the 2.2L (non supercharged) motor to the internals of the 2.0 S/c ones. Go do some research of your own before bashing this engine so quickly.

So now you're stock SRT is runnin low 13's? Your times keep gettin lower and lower every post you guys make. Awesome

hey look... someone who has ACTUALLY read the GM build book. i bet you srt-fucks feel stupid. oh no, that's right, you can't feel any dumber then you already do.

whoops both of my cars asses at what? having the shittiest interior and build quality? and it still doesn't change the fact that your car only does 150.
Actually, we've gotten them around 155-160 over here.

10 grand less....hahahahah our cars are the fastest and best bang for the buck under 20 grand....so u bought ur cavalier for under 10 grand. WOW u got a deal there!

yea, i bet you're paying less then 20 grand in the long run for your neon. what's your montly, like 450? and the srt-4 base price is 21,295... so that's not exactly UNDER 20 grand now is it?

Oh yea he challenges from 4 states away where they cant even give their people real gas. 91 octane.....hahahaha!

I thought you were the one in Pheonix, I can't tell the difference between you guys. I will run you on 89 octane. It doesn't matter. Your SRT-4 is so great come here and get walked. You will have to do this within the next month cause I think I am going to change some things and be out of all the SRT-4s league. We can go for $1000, if you want.

10 grand less....hahahahah our cars are the fastest and best bang for the buck under 20 grand....so u bought ur cavalier for under 10 grand. WOW u got a deal there!
Um, I drive the Saturn version of the car, which had nothing to do with replacing the Cavalier. And yeah, somwhere around 18,500 out the door, not including the 9K for my trade in. So, bang for buck? Show me ONE person that got a NEW SRT4 for less than 19 OUT THE DOOR (means tax, tag, title, etc).

I was told i was a moron because he knew that it was drag restricted to 150. But this did come from a cavalier driver.

fuck racing. how bought you give me your address so i can come to your house and kick the shit out of you? all this e-arguing is pointless cuz your probably a big sandy pussy in real life.

Actually u are going off the 2005 model. I got mine for 19,999 after TTL. And hell no my payment is far from the 400s. So yes it is exactly under 20 grand.

and would that be the year that they only had 215 hp?

Ok, uneducated, you say. Learn to read all the posts. The SRT wing has been wing tunnel tested and proven to benifit the SRT. Please keep up, we have stated this more than once.
Yes, it benefits in a wind tunnel. On real roads? Nope. I've "tested" it on real roads. No benefit.

make it ten thousand and u fly over here. we'll race on street tires


You want to bet 10k but you can't afford slicks??? :confused: You are the one saying I can't walk you, so step up and driver over here.

Dude shut the hell up. Your car wouldnt even make it all the way to Texas. And you are the one claiming you can walk him, so go prove it ass wipe!

You can come get some too. I don't care.

Wow such violence. And you have enjoyed the e-arguing obviously because u are still here. hipacritical douche bag!

i'm still here because douche-bag srt-4 drivers such as yourself feel the need to bash a car that you know nothing about.

wth does that have to do with anything. im not gonna change anything out to smoke u. so i guessur too scared to run on street tires. :confused:

HAHA... it takes me 3 hours to change rear ends, so we can go from a roll too. Stop trying to talk your way out of a race, I have slicks I will use them, if you have them use them.

Nope u would be refering to the 2003 model. Mine is the 2004.

well, i'm surprised the car wasn't free. fucking neon.

why are u asking?? i thought u knew everything about srt-4s and read up on em mr. caliber no new srt-4 brainiac. stfu. besides at least we were putting that down to the ground years ago.. dont u come with 200 crank :o :confused:

205, and my car has two doors, and never had the word "neon" or "cavalier" in it's name.

it doesn't matter if your tranny is dif from the stock neon, it's still a dodge tranny. which means you'll be replacing it pretty soon.
Actually, it's a DCx/GM tranny....the NVG T850, as a matter of fact.
"DaimlerChrysler and General Motors Announce Ownership Restructuring of New Venture Gear

January 10, 2002 DaimlerChrysler Corporation and General Motors Corporation announced a planned ownership restructuring of New Venture Gear (NVG), the powertrain joint venture formed by the two companies in 1990. Under the plan, DaimlerChrysler (DCC), which currently holds a 64% interest of the joint venture, would assume complete ownership of NVG. NVG would remain a separate company and continue to independently manage its business with GM and other customers. As part of the plan, GM will no longer be part of NVG, but will manage NVG's current facility in Muncie, Ind., which produces transmissions, differentials, gears and other automotive components, as an independent business. Financial terms of the transaction were not disclosed. "

So the NVG T850 is as much a GM tranny as it is a Dodge tranny.

Actually, it's a DCx/GM tranny....the NVG T850, as a matter of fact.
"DaimlerChrysler and General Motors Announce Ownership Restructuring of New Venture Gear

January 10, 2002 DaimlerChrysler Corporation and General Motors Corporation announced a planned ownership restructuring of New Venture Gear (NVG), the powertrain joint venture formed by the two companies in 1990. Under the plan, DaimlerChrysler (DCC), which currently holds a 64% interest of the joint venture, would assume complete ownership of NVG. NVG would remain a separate company and continue to independently manage its business with GM and other customers. As part of the plan, GM will no longer be part of NVG, but will manage NVG's current facility in Muncie, Ind., which produces transmissions, differentials, gears and other automotive components, as an independent business. Financial terms of the transaction were not disclosed. "

So the NVG T850 is as much a GM tranny as it is a Dodge tranny.

and my car is still a POS because it's a GM. you dodge guys crack me up.

lol we're not even talking about trucks. fine the dodge TRUCK trannys suck. i agree with u.. worst trannys ever.. im talking about srt-4s and they are rock solid. the engine goes first before the tranny does.. its all right.. i can understand ur in denial when ur car needs its whole engine swapped out to handle 300 whp
Actually, the Dodge SRT-4 transmission, the venerable NVG T850, was first used in trucks.

mitsu won't give the evo to dodge because that takes away from their sales you fucking retard. car companies don't WANT to help each other. you think mitsu gives a shit about dodge's srt-4? no, they don't, and the evo 10 chassis will never even get close to the dodge nameplate.
Actually, the 1988 Dodge Power Ram Sport was a rebadged Mitsubishi Mighty Max. In the 80s, Dodge and Mitsubishi were infamous for this "Imported By Dodge" program.
I know. I had an '88 Power Ram/Mitsu Mighty Max. They help each other out all the time. Especially when it comes to engines and transmissions.

mitsu won't give the evo to dodge because that takes away from their sales you fucking retard. car companies don't WANT to help each other. you think mitsu gives a shit about dodge's srt-4? no, they don't, and the evo 10 chassis will never even get close to the dodge nameplate.
"DaimlerChrysler Mulls Mitsubishi Bailout Plan-WSJ

April 19, 2004 The Wall Street Journal reported that DaimlerChrysler will meet today to begin the process of approving a massive restructuring of ailing Asian affiliate Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a plan that could include a capital injection of as much as 800 billion yen, or about $7.5 billion, and a significant reduction in Mitsubishi's product line. DaimlerChrysler's management board will decide what recommendations to present to the Company's supervisory board on Thursday. The supervisory board, the equivalent of an American board of directors, is expected to give final authorization for a restructuring plan either this week or at a meeting scheduled for April 29. After the supervisory board's approval, Mitsubishi Motors will unveil its restructuring plan and ask shareholders to approve the creation of up to 3.5 million new shares. "

Actually, the 1988 Dodge Power Ram Sport was a rebadged Mitsubishi Mighty Max. In the 80s, Dodge and Mitsubishi were infamous for this "Imported By Dodge" program.
I know. I had an '88 Power Ram/Mitsu Mighty Max. They help each other out all the time. Especially when it comes to engines and transmissions.

that venture ended years ago with the DSM's. they're not about to give a high yeilding car to dodge, just to suck up some of their sales on the onlt performance vehicle they've got.

And the tranny that is in the Dodge SRT-4 is actually no longer a Dodge product.

"Magna Completes Acquisition of New Venture Gear from DaimlerChrysler

September 29, 2004 Magna International Inc. announced that it has completed the acquisition of the worldwide operations of DaimlerChrysler's wholly owned subsidiary, New Venture Gear, Inc. (NVG). The purchase price for 100% of the NVG business is approximately $431 million, subject to post-closing adjustments. "

"DaimlerChrysler Mulls Mitsubishi Bailout Plan-WSJ

April 19, 2004 The Wall Street Journal reported that DaimlerChrysler will meet today to begin the process of approving a massive restructuring of ailing Asian affiliate Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a plan that could include a capital injection of as much as 800 billion yen, or about $7.5 billion, and a significant reduction in Mitsubishi's product line. DaimlerChrysler's management board will decide what recommendations to present to the Company's supervisory board on Thursday. The supervisory board, the equivalent of an American board of directors, is expected to give final authorization for a restructuring plan either this week or at a meeting scheduled for April 29. After the supervisory board's approval, Mitsubishi Motors will unveil its restructuring plan and ask shareholders to approve the creation of up to 3.5 million new shares. "

i'm still willing to bet mitsu's guarding the evo like it's lost treasure.

that venture ended years ago with the DSM's. they're not about to give a high yeilding car to dodge, just to suck up some of their sales on the onlt performance vehicle they've got.
DaimlerChrysler To Consolidate Truck Operations-WSJ

June 29, 2003 The Wall Street Journal reported that DaimlerChrysler will outline a strategy to consolidate parts of its far-flung truck operations in a bid to boost profits and leverage its economies of scale. The plan calls for unifying purchasing, development and certain other parts of its Mercedes-Benz and Freightliner divisions. It also will intensify cooperation and component sharing with two Asian partners it partly owns -- Mitsubishi Motors Corp.'s Fuso division and the truck unit of Hyundai Motor Co.

DCx pretty much tells Mitsubishi what to do, ever since the bailout.

i'm still willing to bet mitsu's guarding the evo like it's lost treasure.

in response to your message, enjoy this quote.

i'm still willing to bet mitsu's guarding the evo like it's lost treasure.
They can't AFFORD to. Follow the money. That's why they went in with DCx and Hyundai to build the new world engine that BOTH the next-gen EVO and SRT-4 will be based off of.

They can't AFFORD to. Follow the money. That's why they went in with DCx and Hyundai to build the new world engine that BOTH the next-gen EVO and SRT-4 will be based off of.
Iso, Iball............let's stop arguing the troll stopped posting.
Let's go back to normal and hope the mods/admins delete all the crap on these 2 threads. K ;) Live long and prosper. :D

Iso, Iball............let's stop arguing the troll stopped posting.
Let's go back to normal and hope the mods/admins delete all the crap on these 2 threads. K ;) Live long and prosper. :D

yea, i already pmed ekool about those 3 trolls, so hopefully they'll get their asses handed to them. preferablly on all the forums they are members of.

Actually, I just quoted from personal experience and the Wall Street Journal.
Don't "attack", just state "fact".

Actually, I just quoted from personal experience and the Wall Street Journal.
Don't "attack", just state "fact".

Now you are rapping too? :p

Now you are rapping too? :p
Don't make me get my gat! :D

dont u come with 200 crank :o :confused:
Just in case these guys come back, someone should tell them to check out the dyno's of STOCK Cobalts, putting out at least 210-220whp. We're as underrated as they ever were. I wish some people would actually do some research before bashing and sounding really dumb. I can't believe none of the Cobalt owners jumped on this statement.

I'm lazy so it's easier for me to slap on a new WGA than to go around swapping pullies.
But that's just me. I like my boost mods to be as lazy as I am. :D

Ok, I just read all this BS crap. Yup, I now have a migraine :(

Ok, I just read all this BS crap. Yup, I now have a migraine :(
yeah, tell me about it man. haven't seen this much trolling in a while.

Just in case these guys come back, someone should tell them to check out the dyno's of STOCK Cobalts, putting out at least 210-220whp. We're as underrated as they ever were. I wish some people would actually do some research before bashing and sounding really dumb. I can't believe none of the other Cobalt owners jumped on this statement.

lol... it was hard to keep up with all the BS they were throwing at us.

yeah, tell me about it man. haven't seen this much trolling in a while.
And yet y'all were willin' to keep feedin' da trolls... :D

You can never win an argument against a troll... facts, figures, quotes, they all mean nothing, because the primary purpose of "trolling" isn't to argue a point, it is to get a "rise" out of contributing forum members. ;)

I find it amusing when people argue over things like Transmissions (or Transaxles), Air Conditioning, Power Steering, etc... Almost none of these components are made by the automobile manufacturers... in many cases the same company supplies parts to the "Big 3" domestic auto manufacturers.

Don't believe me? http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/

Delphi manufactures ALOT of the parts that go into Fords, Chevys and Dodges.

Ok, I just read all this BS crap. Yup, I now have a migraine :(
Yea... me too.......... :rolleyes:

And yet y'all were willin' to keep feedin' da trolls... :D

You can never win an argument against a troll... facts, figures, quotes, they all mean nothing, because the primary purpose of "trolling" isn't to argue a point, it is to get a "rise" out of contributing forum members. ;)

I find it amusing when people argue over things like Transmissions (or Transaxles), Air Conditioning, Power Steering, etc... Almost none of these components are made by the automobile manufacturers... in many cases the same company supplies parts to the "Big 3" domestic auto manufacturers.

Don't believe me? http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/

Delphi manufactures ALOT of the parts that go into Fords, Chevys and Dodges.
They make XM radio too! LOL :p

all of those retards posts must have been removed I couldn't find a single one other than in quotes. demorior or whoever, is just a jackass, the srt4 he pictured is definetly not his unless he is SRT4POLICE in disguise, which is who's car it is. Too bad he wouldn't post pics of his, along with a vid of himself actually hitting 160mph, I've only seen one car get close and that was USAFSRT on the autobahn and I believe he only hit 156ish.
If they have anything else to say let them talk to some of us "REAL" srt owning crew that post here.

Well, I will say this, I know speedos are off at such speeds but I've had my car to a 157 or so give or take a mph. I know it will hit 160 (speedo indicated) stock.

I wanted a race out of one of them. I thought the whole thing was hilarious. Especially when they started to back-pedal from a race. :D :D

And yet y'all were willin' to keep feedin' da trolls... :D

You can never win an argument against a troll... facts, figures, quotes, they all mean nothing, because the primary purpose of "trolling" isn't to argue a point, it is to get a "rise" out of contributing forum members. ;)

I find it amusing when people argue over things like Transmissions (or Transaxles), Air Conditioning, Power Steering, etc... Almost none of these components are made by the automobile manufacturers... in many cases the same company supplies parts to the "Big 3" domestic auto manufacturers.

Don't believe me? http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/

Delphi manufactures ALOT of the parts that go into Fords, Chevys and Dodges.


Very correct sir!! Delphi does indeed sell to most of the car makers. Heck they are even supplying to the health care industry among others... :D

WoW I love it when you post something and someone starts talking about something different????

WoW I love it when you post something and someone starts talking about something different????



Yeah look at all the trouble you started!!!!!


LOL J/K :D

i was bored last night and wanted to up my post count so i decided to feed the trolls a lil. ;) i'll behave now. :)

i was bored last night and wanted to up my post count so i decided to feed the trolls a lil. ;) i'll behave now. :)

Is there an internet term for a troll feeder? :p Maybe a treeder? Or a feedoll? LMAO. :D

Or a sucker! LOL jk!!!

Or a sucker! LOL jk!!!

:confused: I don't get it?

Yea... me too.......... :rolleyes:

I don't know if I have a migraine or not, but my head and eyes are pounding.. :rolleyes:
LOL, I am glad for the quotes, or it would of appeared really queer.. Kind of like talking to yourself... and then answering yourself :D

You have to remember the autobahns that SRT_USAF were on also went uphill a little.
Now, on the A5 (autobahn 5) going from the A45 intersection DOWN to Frankfurt is slightly downhill and at 4am on a Sunday morning pretty much DEAD as far as traffic goes. I've hit the 160 mark on the speedo (so it's anywhere from 156 to 160) before on that. So far there's been sightings of a CSS (SC?) around the Landstuhl area and a guy at Ramstein has one being shipped over, I think. I figure if we can hook him up with Wenzel then he can do a top-end vid on the autobahn to prove what the top-end of the CSS (SC I hope!) really is with video footage.

There is a vid out of someone hitting top end stock and then watching it again and how much faster it got there when he was modded. Its been a few months back but cool vid heh.

we'll get it hooked up I ball after i get it broken in. But i'm still kinda new to stick. I dont think i could out drive a grandma in a stock civic but thats just me.

I'm more interested in the top end of the Cobalt SS...preferably the SS/SC.

thats the model i get on monday. Agamemnon on your site i'm good friends with i'd be willing to let him run it or however.

what is the top end for the CSS S/C?

No idea we'll be finding out though.

Raced a Srt-4 With my 02 Mustang GT from the light, almost lost. Had to use my 75 shot of nitous and then i won with a big gap those Srt's are some fast god dam cars. I dont think a SS could compete with out a few mods (but i dont knoe if the srt was stock though or tricked out)

If you had to spray to beat him, I'd say he had some mods lol

Um, I drive the Saturn version of the car, which had nothing to do with replacing the Cavalier. And yeah, somwhere around 18,500 out the door, not including the 9K for my trade in. So, bang for buck? Show me ONE person that got a NEW SRT4 for less than 19 OUT THE DOOR (means tax, tag, title, etc).

i bought my 2003 srt brand new in june of 03 with 10 miles on it. it was 15,200 out the door :)

i have a question for the cobalt guys, or anyone else for that matter. why is your rebuttal always "it's still a neon"? do you think we don't know it's a neon? it's not a first gen. it's doesn't suffer from the same issues that car did. the neon platform actually has a very good history of performance in it's respective scca classes. when people ask me what i drive, i tell them a neon. it's not an insult to most of us.

i would love to see your neon.
Me two I would like to see your Cavalier :p

Don't bring this crap over here. You have the .net forum for this Neon vs. Cavalier junk.

Lol Lol..........

Don't bring this crap over here. You have the .net forum for this Neon vs. Cavalier junk.
Calm dwn you knuckle head. :p

i bought my 2003 srt brand new in june of 03 with 10 miles on it. it was 15,200 out the door :)
Well, guess there had to be one out of the 50,000 SRT4 Owners that got a better deal than the rest. Not sure how you lucked out with that dealership and final price, but nice goin.

i bought my 2003 srt brand new in june of 03 with 10 miles on it. it was 15,200 out the door :)


I find this really hard to beleave!

i bought my 2003 srt brand new in june of 03 with 10 miles on it. it was 15,200 out the door :)

i have a question for the cobalt guys, or anyone else for that matter. why is your rebuttal always "it's still a neon"? do you think we don't know it's a neon? it's not a first gen. it's doesn't suffer from the same issues that car did. the neon platform actually has a very good history of performance in it's respective scca classes. when people ask me what i drive, i tell them a neon. it's not an insult to most of us.

why is it that srt fanbois always come to a cobalt forum and call our cars cavaliers?

why is it that srt fanbois always come to a cobalt forum and call our cars cavaliers?

How do you get a cobalt being a cav from that message that you replied too? Also, to answer your question, had you been here in the beginning, you would have known that we were asked to come here and show our support to the sister site from the SRTforum. Besides, unlike some peeps, I don't care if someone calls my car a neon, as what PSI CHICK said, but I guess you're still sensitive to the comment of a cobalt being consider the same as a cav, huh? To me, I don't care what it is or where it came from, if it's a cobalt now, it's a cobalt. Yes, I know that they're not the same, now, but get over it, you can't change other's opinion if they want to put the cobalt in the same category as the cav. Bottom line, they're both from Chevy, so why dog another model from Chevy by being insulted if someone should indicate that their one in the same? I guess it'll take some time for you to get over it, because if not, then you'll just turn out the same like some guys that can't get over about the fact that an SRT is a neon.

I find this really hard to beleave!

you and everyone else that hears what i paid for it. but that's the price i got it for. 13,996 for the car, 15,200 with tax/title/licence.

Well, guess there had to be one out of the 50,000 SRT4 Owners that got a better deal than the rest. Not sure how you lucked out with that dealership and final price, but nice goin.

you are obviously aiming this at the fact that you see a lot of SRT4s, no shit, theyve been out for four years now, the Cobalt SS has only been out for less than a year, I know for a fact that soon it will be the same, Cobalts and SRTs all over the place

you are obviously aiming this at the fact that you see a lot of SRT4s, no shit, theyve been out for four years now, the Cobalt SS has only been out for less than a year, I know for a fact that soon it will be the same, Cobalts and SRTs all over the place
Hey buddy, guess what? The SRT-4 has only been out since 2003. If you do the math that is less than 3 years. Just an FYI. ;)

How do you get a cobalt being a cav from that message that you replied too? Also, to answer your question, had you been here in the beginning, you would have known that we were asked to come here and show our support to the sister site from the SRTforum. Besides, unlike some peeps, I don't care if someone calls my car a neon, as what PSI CHICK said, but I guess you're still sensitive to the comment of a cobalt being consider the same as a cav, huh? To me, I don't care what it is or where it came from, if it's a cobalt now, it's a cobalt. Yes, I know that they're not the same, now, but get over it, you can't change other's opinion if they want to put the cobalt in the same category as the cav. Bottom line, they're both from Chevy, so why dog another model from Chevy by being insulted if someone should indicate that their one in the same? I guess it'll take some time for you to get over it, because if not, then you'll just turn out the same like some guys that can't get over about the fact that an SRT is a neon.

i was simply pointing out the juxtaposition of how cobalt owners call your car a neon and srt-4 owners call our cars cavi's... it's not a one sided thing... and had you seen some of the ignorant srt-4 owners we were saying that too... you would have seen that we were blatantly attacked. not only did they call our cars cavi's (which isn't a big deal), they were making up shit about us having 0 torque and blah blah blah. i already know that you srt people were asked to come here and so on and so forth, but a lot of the srt-trolls that come here certainly were not asked to come here.

basically what i'm saying is that your statement could go either way. Though cobalt owners may call your car a neon, most of the srt people call our cars cavi's... so not one side is a single contributing factor to this. so what i'm getting at is... why is it that the srt-people's (yes i'm being politically correct) main rebuttal is, "it's a cavalier". the cavi was around for what, a decade? and it faired quite well as being a reliable compact car.

where's the tqtqtqtqtqtqtq guy?? Is he still here? I'd love to play!

305 at the wheels.


And I'd take an SS over the SRT-4. *Maybe* slightly slower (debatable), but it's really a much more civilized car. Buddy has whatever package gets you the limited slip and recaro seats and it's really quite nice

where's the tqtqtqtqtqtqtq guy?? Is he still here? I'd love to play!

305 at the wheels.


And I'd take an SS over the SRT-4. *Maybe* slightly slower (debatable), but it's really a much more civilized car. Buddy has whatever package gets you the limited slip and recaro seats and it's really quite nice


nope, all of those guys got banned. it was a sad night for srt-ss relations. that one kid, all he kept saying was "yea but you guys have zero tqtqtqtqtqtqtqtqtq" like evertime he put "tq" it decreased our tq output or something.

you and everyone else that hears what i paid for it. but that's the price i got it for. 13,996 for the car, 15,200 with tax/title/licence.

What, did you get the SRT DESIGN package? That is the only way you got it for that price. I saw one of those SRT DESIGN Neons about 2 weeks ago! It was an auto. so that gave it away. It had the non-functioning hood scoop with SRT-DESIGN on it, fake duals, and same rims. That is a disgrace!

What, did you get the SRT DESIGN package? That is the only way you got it for that price. I saw one of those SRT DESIGN Neons about 2 weeks ago! It was an auto. so that gave it away. It had the non-functioning hood scoop with SRT-DESIGN on it, fake duals, and same rims. That is a disgrace!


No, she got some special deal at the end of the year or someone in her family owns a Dodge dealership or something along those lines. She goes to almost every car message board and brags about it.

Just to you let you know the real SRT-4 has fake duals too. ;)

Any inline 4 banger running dual exhaust is "fake" in a sense. Your not going to be able to run and make efficient power with a "true dual" set-up found on v6's, v8s and the like. FYI, SRT designs do not come with SRT4 wheels as mentioned above.

I too got my 05 for very cheap ($18k loaded up) and I got it for 4k below the asking sticker price. If you know how to buy a car then you get good or decent deals. If you go in like Joe Blow, then go ahead and pre-lube your rearend before steeping in to sign the papers rofl.

She has a nice and quick Stage 3 SRT.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469951_43_full.jpg

Hey buddy, guess what? The SRT-4 has only been out since 2003. If you do the math that is less than 3 years. Just an FYI. ;)

you really arent too intelligent are you?, new models normally come out in the fall of the year before their year :D

Calm dwn you knuckle head. :p

LMAO, we meed a popcorn smilie

you really arent too intelligent are you?, new models normally come out in the fall of the year before their year :D
Except for the SRT-4. It didn't show up at dealerships until April/May of 2003.

No, she got some special deal at the end of the year or someone in her family owns a Dodge dealership or something along those lines. She goes to almost every car message board and brags about it.

Just to you let you know the real SRT-4 has fake duals too. ;)

and a fake hood scoop, lol

Is there a Dodge neon SRT-4 in the Austin, Texas area that wants to race me(Cobalt SS) I've been trying to find one to race but I can't find anybody. You can e-mail me at Sosaboys@elp.rr.com. Thanks.

Except for the SRT-4. It didn't show up at dealerships until April/May of 2003.

pwned

your message is too short...

butch i know someone in austin. i need to get your number or someting i'll give you a call next time i head up to vans, if that even goes on anymore???? dont know if there is a track up there but you can always bring it dowm to SAR/RCR.

and a fake hood scoop, lol

Actually the hood scoop is functional... just not in the way that you're thinking. The hood scoop channels cool air to the turbo to help cool it.

Actually the hood scoop is functional... just not in the way that you're thinking. The hood scoop channels cool air to the turbo to help cool it.

isn't there a plastic cover on the scoop? where is it channeling air to? how? i'm actually very curious, since i thought the stock srt scoop was simply for show.

isn't there a plastic cover on the scoop? where is it channeling air to? how? i'm actually very curious, since i thought the stock srt scoop was simply for show.


nope its functional to the degree that it provides some airflow over the turbo. There is a plastic shroud that can be removed for a bigger opening.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152453&highlight=Functional+hood+scoop

isn't there a plastic cover on the scoop? where is it channeling air to? how? i'm actually very curious, since i thought the stock srt scoop was simply for show.
Well, the underside of the hood is actually a series of ducts that take air coming in from the hoodscoop over to the rear of the engine bay where the turbo is. It's completely functional. What YOU'RE thinking of is Ram Air or some such.

Well, the underside of the hood is actually a series of ducts that take air coming in from the hoodscoop over to the rear of the engine bay where the turbo is. It's completely functional. What YOU'RE thinking of is Ram Air or some such.
actually what i was thinking is that every srt-4 i've ever seen had a plastic cover over the scoop, and i didn't notice any openings.

actually what i was thinking is that every srt-4 i've ever seen had a plastic cover over the scoop, and i didn't notice any openings.

The plastic thing isn't really a cover, it is open and allows air to flow back to the turbo. I don't think it really does to much though. You can also do the "hood mod" witch is cutting a section of the hood over the intake, and then cutting a hole in the air box to create a ram air type setup. Although I don't see that helping but so much on a turbo car, but it would supply nice cool air to the intake.

i'm gonna have to go to my friendly dodge dealership to have a look. when i was looking at getting a new car, i went to look at srt-4's and even the salesmen told me the hoodscoop was *completly non functional. i hate the dodge dealership by my house it sucks ass. i bought my truck from a dealership an hour away cuz i can't stand the one near me... they quoted me a monthly of $690 on an 05 srt-4 acr. that's ok... whenever something goes wrong on my truck i take it there to get fixed under warranty. just to waste some of their time.

Any inline 4 banger running dual exhaust is "fake" in a sense. Your not going to be able to run and make efficient power with a "true dual" set-up found on v6's, v8s and the like. FYI, SRT designs do not come with SRT4 wheels as mentioned above.

I too got my 05 for very cheap ($18k loaded up) and I got it for 4k below the asking sticker price. If you know how to buy a car then you get good or decent deals. If you go in like Joe Blow, then go ahead and pre-lube your rearend before steeping in to sign the papers rofl.

She has a nice and quick Stage 3 SRT.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469951_43_full.jpg

way to steal my pic!!! haha

i don't have a family member that owns a dealership. i bought my car off an online auction. i just got lucky. leaves me more money for modding....even though i'm still broke damn it!

here's a link to my cardomain page where you can see pictures of my car if you'd like. you'll see that it's a real srt-4. they didn't have the design package in 2003 Cardomain Page (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/469951)

The reason they put the scoop on the srt is because the same engine has been out in mexico for ten years. The guys down there where hitting 17+psi and the turbo would glow red hot, so the manufactures knew people where going to abuse the car(who doesn't) and the channels duct air to the turbo to bring the temps down. It also will work for the ram air effect if you cut a hole in the underside of the hood, above the air box. The drivers side channel goes to the turbo but also has bulge to duct air to the air box, you would have to see the underside of the hood. It's functional, just not unless you want to cut a hole in it. :D The plastic piece in the hood is just to stop rain aka water from blasting into the engine bay, it's only held on by the cheapest metal want to be nuts, 10mm.

i'm gonna have to go to my friendly dodge dealership to have a look. when i was looking at getting a new car, i went to look at srt-4's and even the salesmen told me the hoodscoop was *completly non functional. i hate the dodge dealership by my house it sucks ass. i bought my truck from a dealership an hour away cuz i can't stand the one near me... they quoted me a monthly of $690 on an 05 srt-4 acr. that's ok... whenever something goes wrong on my truck i take it there to get fixed under warranty. just to waste some of their time.

Car Salesmen... my experience is they know hardly anything about the performance aspects of the cars they're trying to sell. Most of them know every single little "trinket" in the car's interior and can go through all 28000 functions of the radio. But, their knowledge of the car's performance is limited to "uh, this one has the 5.9L engine in it."

When I was shopping around I ran into a car salesman that swore up and down that the SRT-4 didn't have a turbo, just a "high performance DOHC 2.4L instead of the normal SOHC 2.0L" :rolleyes:

Car Salesmen... my experience is they know hardly anything about the performance aspects of the cars they're trying to sell. Most of them know every single little "trinket" in the car's interior and can go through all 28000 functions of the radio. But, their knowledge of the car's performance is limited to "uh, this one has the 5.9L engine in it."

When I was shopping around I ran into a car salesman that swore up and down that the SRT-4 didn't have a turbo, just a "high performance DOHC 2.4L instead of the normal SOHC 2.0L" :rolleyes:

when i test drove an srt-4, the salesmen kept trying to get me to turn the radio on because it "really punps" (it had the livin' loud adio system package) and i just wanted to listen to the car itself and the wonderful noises it made. i could have cared less about the radio, i just wished he wasn't in the car so i could rip it.

I would've ripped it up ;)

well, i was hoping he'd give me a break on the monthly if he saw i treated the car right. instead he was a money hungry dickhead who though i didn't know anything.

That's every dealer, LOL

My funniest car salesman story happened the very first time I went car shopping by myself...

The salesmen's name was Charlie Brown (seriously). I was just looking for a somewhat throw away used car and told him that. I also said my price range was around 15k and that I kind of wanted something dependable with somewhat good gas mileage. First two cars he shows me are a Civic, then a Corolla, I say I am not interested in either.

This assface procedes to ask me, "Do you know what the top 3 most dependable car makers are?", I'm like yes, 'Honda, Toyota, Nissan.'. He then asks me, "Do you know who makes Lexus's?" Me, 'Toyota'. Him, "Do you know who makes Infiniti's?", 'Nissan'. "Do you know who makes Acura's?", 'Honda'.

He then says, "Good at least you know something." :eek: :D I then said, 'Thanks have a good day, bye.'

My uncle bowls and drinks with the local Toyota dealer's owner all the time. So I told my uncle that story. Let's just say that Charlie Brown doesn't work at the local Toyota dealership anymore. ;)

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:eek: That was the first good post wasey has ever made!1 Let's celebrate! Kegger, kegger!

Okay.. I have a problem now. I got into somewhat of a race with a white (& carbon fiber) srt-4 a couple nights ago and let's just say that I know what the ass end of them looks like pretty good now. I can't stand this. I've been looking at every available performance modification I can find and since psi-fi's twin-charge kit isn't out yet, I was thinking NOS. On my previous car, (VW Corrado) I couldn't run NOS with the supercharger, only an intercooler set-up. Can I run NOS on the SS with "hurting" it too bad?

Okay.. I have a problem now. I got into somewhat of a race with a white (& carbon fiber) srt-4 a couple nights ago and let's just say that I know what the ass end of them looks like pretty good now. I can't stand this. I've been looking at every available performance modification I can find and since psi-fi's twin-charge kit isn't out yet, I was thinking NOS. On my previous car, (VW Corrado) I couldn't run NOS with the supercharger, only an intercooler set-up. Can I run NOS on the SS with "hurting" it too bad?

why don't you just get the psi-fi kit that should me more than enough to take out stock or near stock srt-4 I would think?

My funniest car salesman story happened the very first time I went car shopping by myself...

The salesmen's name was Charlie Brown (seriously). I was just looking for a somewhat throw away used car and told him that. I also said my price range was around 15k and that I kind of wanted something dependable with somewhat good gas mileage. First two cars he shows me are a Civic, then a Corolla, I say I am not interested in either.

This assface procedes to ask me, "Do you know what the top 3 most dependable car makers are?", I'm like yes, 'Honda, Toyota, Nissan.'. He then asks me, "Do you know who makes Lexus's?" Me, 'Toyota'. Him, "Do you know who makes Infiniti's?", 'Nissan'. "Do you know who makes Acura's?", 'Honda'.

He then says, "Good at least you know something." :eek: :D I then said, 'Thanks have a good day, bye.'

My uncle bowls and drinks with the local Toyota dealer's owner all the time. So I told my uncle that story. Let's just say that Charlie Brown doesn't work at the local Toyota dealership anymore. ;)


That's funny shit lol lol

Okay.. I have a problem now. I got into somewhat of a race with a white (& carbon fiber) srt-4 a couple nights ago and let's just say that I know what the ass end of them looks like pretty good now. I can't stand this. I've been looking at every available performance modification I can find and since psi-fi's twin-charge kit isn't out yet, I was thinking NOS. On my previous car, (VW Corrado) I couldn't run NOS with the supercharger, only an intercooler set-up. Can I run NOS on the SS with "hurting" it too bad?

I thought I saw a twin charge kit in a mag the other day. All though it may have been for the mini cooper-S, I'll have to see if I coan find it.

Gravana was going to do the twincharge and GM announced that Gravana was going to do it.
Then Gravana got cold feet, backed out, and announced something else....a turbo I think. Bigger SC? Typical of a ricer company.

why don't you just get the psi-fi kit that should me more than enough to take out stock or near stock srt-4 I would think?
Is there even a ss in the 13s yet.If not it wont take out a srt 4 unless they cant drive

Is there even a ss in the 13s yet.If not it wont take out a srt 4 unless they cant drive

Don't stir up stuff.

Don't stir up stuff.
im not im just asking a question.

im not im just asking a question.

No there isn't. What's your best time in your car?

No there isn't. What's your best time in your car?
13.88 at 103.1 stock have not ran it modded yet.

13.71 @104.6...

blown clutch...have not run yet with stage 2 clutch...will have those results on 7 october...will post slip then I guess...

13.71 @104.6...

When did you run this? I must have missed the thread. :confused:

didn't tell anyone, did some testing with tire pressures this weekend, shh it's a secret, clutch is WAY F'd now, it's ok though I only have to catch a ride to work for 2 more days...

didn't tell anyone, did some testing with tire pressures this weekend, shh it's a secret, clutch is WAY F'd now, it's ok though I only have to catch a ride to work for 2 more days...
What all u got done

I see u have nitrous and drag radials i really hope it didnt take that to get u to run it.

What all u got done

Ordered the following, but yet to be installed: stage 2 clutch, psi-fi kit, lightweight flywheel, gmpp performance head, as for the parts actually on the car, ZEX computer controlled Nitrous Kit, fully programable, running a 30 shot again til the new clutch comes in, well not running anything or driving for that matter til it all comes in, and the DR's. Blew the clutch last week running a 75ish shot. O well, stage 2 won't slip at all...show me low 13's...hehe, what's the difference between an srt-4 and ACR Srt-4? Don't think I have seen one in person, I like all small FI cars and have no fanboiness (hehe, new word) like some other people, I really am interested...

I see u have nitrous and drag radials i really hope it didnt take that to get u to run it.

Dude, quit now, before this starts into a flame war. So what if it did take that to run that?

I see u have nitrous and drag radials i really hope it didnt take that to get u to run it.

Keep in mind that my clutch was slipping, your right though, when the new one comes in it should be pretty quick.

Keep in mind that my clutch was slipping, your right though, when the new one comes in it should be pretty quick.
Ya just read that.

Dude, quit now, before this starts into a flame war. So what if it did take that to run that?
Then id sell my car but he already explained he had a slipping clutch.Dam man cam the f down i post what ever i want.

Ordered the following, but yet to be installed: stage 2 clutch, psi-fi kit, lightweight flywheel, gmpp performance head, as for the parts actually on the car, ZEX computer controlled Nitrous Kit, fully programable, running a 30 shot again til the new clutch comes in, well not running anything or driving for that matter til it all comes in, and the DR's. Blew the clutch last week running a 75ish shot. O well, stage 2 won't slip at all...show me low 13's...hehe, what's the difference between an srt-4 and ACR Srt-4? Don't think I have seen one in person, I like all small FI cars and have no fanboiness (hehe, new word) like some other people, I really am interested...

ACR comes with seats, better wheels, and adjustable suspension. Oh and a sticker/decal behind the front wheel wells.

Ordered the following, but yet to be installed: stage 2 clutch, psi-fi kit, lightweight flywheel, gmpp performance head, as for the parts actually on the car, ZEX computer controlled Nitrous Kit, fully programable, running a 30 shot again til the new clutch comes in, well not running anything or driving for that matter til it all comes in, and the DR's. Blew the clutch last week running a 75ish shot. O well, stage 2 won't slip at all...show me low 13's...hehe, what's the difference between an srt-4 and ACR Srt-4? Don't think I have seen one in person, I like all small FI cars and have no fanboiness (hehe, new word) like some other people, I really am interested...
Diffence is all handling.smaller wheels sway bars.sticker tires.nothing much Ya what he said above me.

Ya just read that.

Gotta go fix some airplanes right now, I'm at work obviously, but I was just seeing if you noticed the clutch thing...was hoping you weren't saying that I should have run better than that with a F'd clutch. No offense taken, just sayin'...

Gotta go fix some airplanes right now, I'm at work obviously, but I was just seeing if you noticed the clutch thing...was hoping you weren't saying that I should have run better than that with a F'd clutch. No offense taken, just sayin'...
Did realize about the clutch.Get the new clutch in a post new times.

O I see, I have never seen one of those...Different style wheels also? Or just smaller, larger? I gotta go, be on later.

nevermind I see the wheel thing now...ahh, I'm tired

O I see, I have never seen one of those...Different style wheels also? Or just smaller, larger? I gotta go, be on later.

Different style, 16 x 7.0s, compared to 17 x 6.5s stock. A lot better.

Different style, 16 x 7.0s, compared to 17 x 6.0s stock. A lot better.

Fixed it for ya... stock SRT-4 wheels are 17x6's... crappy. :( Well at least Chrysler didn't screw us with a wierd bolt pattern :p :D Aftermarket wheels are so much better than the stock ones anyhow. Stockers weigh around 23lbs each, my 17x8's only wiegh 16lbs each.

Fixed it for ya... stock SRT-4 wheels are 17x6's... crappy. :( Well at least Chrysler didn't screw us with a wierd bolt pattern :p :D Aftermarket wheels are so much better than the stock ones anyhow. Stockers weigh around 23lbs each, my 17x8's only wiegh 16lbs each.

Thanks MChat....you made any new runs???

Just on street tires... 13.4@119 w/ a 9.2@ the 1/8 mile...

Just on street tires... 13.4@119 w/ a 9.2@ the 1/8 mile...

Buh???? Man, 119?? Your 60' time must be measured on a calendar to get that and run a 13.4! Granted, you're running street tires ;) Have you had it on DOT slicks? Will it hit a 12 on them? Inquiring minds...

Buh???? Man, 119?? Your 60' time must be measured on a calendar to get that and run a 13.4! Granted, you're running street tires ;) Have you had it on DOT slicks? Will it hit a 12 on them? Inquiring minds...

11s;) He probably sat at the line for a second, probably 2.3 or 2.4 60'. Lol

11s;) He probably sat at the line for a second, probably 2.3 or 2.4 60'. Lol

Both of you, killin' me! Traction, it's what's for dinner! ;)

Best 60' of the night was a 2.389. Average 60' was a mid 2.4.

Average 330' was a mid 6.4 as well. I hit low 5.0's on the slicks the hot summer night I had the boost turned up and ran 11's. A difference of more than 1.4 seconds; I should be able to hit 11's on my street tune now that it is cooling off... I just need the wheels so I can mount my own slicks instead of having to borrow some. Hopefully after a little tweaking, I'll be able to hit a 1.7 60' and sub 5.0 330' and really get the car moving down the track :D

Just on street tires... 13.4@119 w/ a 9.2@ the 1/8 mile...
119mph = BULLSHIT

Just on street tires... 13.4@119 w/ a 9.2@ the 1/8 mile...119mph = BULLSHIT
http://www.azchatfield.net/srt4/timeslips_09172005.jpg

http://www.azchatfield.net/srt4/timeslips_09172005.jpg


Dude i believe you just helped me decide what car i want to buy. Thanks

Uhm 117.1, is not 119! and 13.59, is not 13.4! You took almost 2 tenths of a second of your time, and added almost 2 miles per hour! If you wanted to round them off it should have looked like this, 13.6 at 117 mph all and all though still impressive numbers , your running about a second quicker than stock.

Oh yea and just for everyones info the quarter mile time that is published by dodge for the 2005 SRT-4 is 14.4 stock
The quarter mile time published by Chevy for the 05 SS is 14.4 stock :eek:

Uhm 117.1, is not 119! and 13.59, is not 13.4! You took almost 2 tenths of a second of your time, and added almost 2 miles per hour! If you wanted to round them off it should have looked like this, 13.6 at 117 mph all and all though still impressive numbers , your running about a second quicker than stock.

Oh yea and just for everyones info the quarter mile time that is published by dodge for the 2005 SRT-4 is 14.4 stock
The quarter mile time published by Chevy for the 05 SS is 14.4 stock :eek:


Hahahaha, DEE DEE DEE>>>> YOU!!!! Go back up to his post and scroll to the right. I see 13.48 @ 118.74. Where did Dodge publish that 14.4? And where did GM publish that 14.4? Are you making up stuff? :rolleyes:

look at his second slip?? 13.4 at 118.7! you can't argue a .3mph it's called rounding up like when you measure your...... ha ha joking!!!

Uhm 117.1, is not 119! and 13.59, is not 13.4! You took almost 2 tenths of a second of your time, and added almost 2 miles per hour! If you wanted to round them off it should have looked like this, 13.6 at 117 mph all and all though still impressive numbers , your running about a second quicker than stock.

Oh yea and just for everyones info the quarter mile time that is published by dodge for the 2005 SRT-4 is 14.4 stock
The quarter mile time published by Chevy for the 05 SS is 14.4 stock :eek:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..........you are an idiot, that is all.

Oh duh! i did'nt see the second slip ( did'nt realize i could scroll right) . I feel like a fool now but am by no means any IDIOT! LMB!

In the sales booklets

You know what this forum needs? More SRT vs Cobalt SS/SC threads. :rolleyes:

i kno right?! And don't bother tring to post any info that you've looked up anywhere because it still gets doubted

more times i found
2003 Dodge SRT-4 5.6 14.1
2004 Dodge SRT-4 5.3 13.9

A second quicker than stock? No technically on street tires my best time is about 3 tenths quicker than my best stock time (13.76)... However, the car is much quicker than that as running slicks puts me into the 11's... even on pump gas.

Also the stock run was done w/ a 2.0 60', a 5.8 330' and an 8.8 1/8 mile. So on the 13.4@119 pass, I was 4 tenths behind at the 60', 6 tenths behind at the 330' and 4 tenths behind at the 1/8th mile, yet the car made up those 4 tenths and took another 3 tenths by the end of the 1/4...

trapping 117 should be WELLLLLL into 12s... could even be in 11s. How did you manage to run 13s? did you spin 1st 2nd and 3rd all the way?

Stage 3 with Toys, High Octane Mode ON, Mopar exhaust, stock air box: 12.2 @ 115mph this was on slicks

400whp + street tires + poor track prep = spin through 1st & 2nd (at 1/2 throttle) and into 3rd.

I have run an 11.99 on my pump gas tune (which is what I was on when running the street tires) and a handfull of 11.7's on race gas (in 103 degree summer air).

Pump Gas Vid (http://media.putfile.com/srt4-1199/original)

Race Gas Slips (http://www.azchatfield.net/miscpics/_private/Timeslips_07222005.jpg)

Uhm 117.1, is not 119! and 13.59, is not 13.4! You took almost 2 tenths of a second of your time, and added almost 2 miles per hour! If you wanted to round them off it should have looked like this, 13.6 at 117 mph all and all though still impressive numbers , your running about a second quicker than stock.

Oh yea and just for everyones info the quarter mile time that is published by dodge for the 2005 SRT-4 is 14.4 stock
The quarter mile time published by Chevy for the 05 SS is 14.4 stock :eek:

Look out, Wussey13 has got you on his tard list, that he will forever be on top of! Mag. racing is gay though!!!

MC,

You really make me want to buy Stage 3

funny how some srt guys love to brag how they will stomp cobalt's. It's kind of a "no shit sherlock, you have an aftermarket" response to those people.

BTW, where in town are you at?

When it comes down to it it's really a driver's race, IMHO.

good race. one day I'll run in to an SS

wow this threads bin hanging around. good trolling on both parts. :bump: for no good reason.

It's hilarious how little you both know. I've been in a RSX when it topped out at 168 without a turbo or internal work. :cool:

And no that 13.6 has NEVER been proven. There is one video of it and no proof its stock.

Get lives!
Ya that was going down a hill with a 170 tailwind behind that impressive wing. Wasey13 years old you are CUTE!!!! By the way your right 13.6 is wrong, for 500 bucks you can get a 13 flat. And that plus a set of drag radials will get you into the 12's (here is a tissue), you can see my time slips if u want.

trapping 117 should be WELLLLLL into 12s... could even be in 11s. How did you manage to run 13s? did you spin 1st 2nd and 3rd all the way?

Stage 3 with Toys, High Octane Mode ON, Mopar exhaust, stock air box: 12.2 @ 115mph this was on slicks
12.31@116 12-2-05 @lvms

Neons suck :D

Neons suck :D
especially your gay little 570hp POS Neon LOL

especially your gay little 570hp POS Neon LOL


ehhh 570 is for wussies. 900whp is where the big boys play. Keep an eye for the step up ;)

isn't the wing supposed to provide downforce onto the back tyres in consideration of rwd traction in the first place....

isn't the wing supposed to provide downforce onto the back tyres in consideration of rwd traction in the first place....


rear spoilers on fwd do 2 things, and only in a road racing inviorment and at higher speeds. during braking and turn in the air pushing it down helps the rear end not to step out when unduced oversteer may accur. that is all, most of the time the drag the wings creates might even slow the car down.

I recently seen a study done by Popular Mechanics. In this study they said they have not tested one single car ( production vehicles ) with wings on them where it actually did anything to the downforce. It was also said that some wings create drag and the only time a wing actually effects down force is at very high rates of speed. Mostly they are looks.

ehhh 570 is for wussies. 900whp is where the big boys play. Keep an eye for the step up ;)
Oh Mr. Aaronneon, what are you going to do, weld weights to the front so that thing can launch or what. You seem to e great at building horsepower, can u help us with traction next???

Oh Mr. Aaronneon, what are you going to do, weld weights to the front so that thing can launch or what. You seem to e great at building horsepower, can u help us with traction next???


Naw Im really just talking crap :cool: ;)


everyone knows you cant make a neon fast