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wasey13
08-20-2005, 11:42 PM
All Cobalts:

Body molding and fabric flaws,not fitting correctly or measured properly from the factory... Take to dealer. Sunroofed cars the operating button falling off and the track breaking....Take to dealer or super glue.
Headlight moisture...Take to dealer or take apart, dry, and reseal better.
Exterior part's colors not matching exactly... Live with it.
Shift knob breaking off...Take to dealer.
Fog lights shorting out... Take to dealer.

Cobalt SS/SC:

Wheel paint chipping/flaking and clutch problems...Take to dealer.
Muffler's heat shield's baffles loosen, causing rattling noise...Take to dealer.
Wires melting and grounding out, causing rough or no start or rough driving/idle(Wires)...Take to dealer or reposition wires.
Rough shifting/Not going into gear... Take to dealer.
Windows rolling up slow... Take to dealer.
Speedometer gets stuck... Take to dealer
Pinion going out in the rack and pinion steering... Take to dealer.

Also people before purchasing your car check for these problems, they should all be taken care of at the dealer.

Mods/Admins this should also be stickied, so people can ask about problems here or post new problems here. Also people post fixes for all these problems if availible. Also Mods/Admins post service bulletins here if/when some are available and also Edit this if you want to make it look nicer or to add/erase stuff.

iso
08-22-2005, 02:49 AM
how about the body panels not lining up seemlessly/noticable gaps between panels? there's a couple spots on my ss where the body panels don't transition smoothly and there's either a gap or a lip. i'm not sure if i'm the only person wih this and if it's only on the ss/coupe/or all the models.

selfinfliction
08-22-2005, 05:24 AM
SS = passenger's side door armrest has the leather cut too short to fit properly around the handle.

The Alex
08-22-2005, 06:54 AM
how about the body panels not lining up seemlessly/noticable gaps between panels? there's a couple spots on my ss where the body panels don't transition smoothly and there's either a gap or a lip. i'm not sure if i'm the only person wih this and if it's only on the ss/coupe/or all the models.



Your not alone, the fascia on the front and back of mine doesnt line up for shit it looks like it was cut out and moulded by a blind man.

Permafried-
08-22-2005, 10:20 AM
SS = passenger's side door armrest has the leather cut too short to fit properly around the handle.

Every model of cobalt has issues with this whether it's vinyl or fabric...some people seem to be alright but a large number of people are seeing the same thing across all models.

Permafried-

selfinfliction
08-22-2005, 10:25 AM
second problem is that they are on national backorder for the red leather ones, and not to mention my passenger's side headlight is on national backorder as well. jeez

iso
08-22-2005, 11:07 AM
SS = passenger's side door armrest has the leather cut too short to fit properly around the handle.

i was told by my dealer that this was "normal" and that 90% of them come from the factory that way. they wouldn't even bother TRYING to order me a new one cuz they said the replacement would *probably* be the same way.

iso
08-22-2005, 11:08 AM
Your not alone, the fascia on the front and back of mine doesnt line up for shit it looks like it was cut out and moulded by a blind man.

lmao, that's exactly what mine looks like!

MyCobaltSS
08-22-2005, 11:20 AM
I also noticed that the left front fender of my cobalt SS at the bottom of the headlamp doesn't line up correctly with lamp, and the brake light comes on, it only happened 3 times since I bought it 2 months ago. Also the inside door handle, the leather is short and and comes out but not really noticable you know what I mean. But other than that, I don't have any major problems. I still love my Cobalt SS/SC

selfinfliction
08-22-2005, 11:30 AM
i was told by my dealer that this was "normal" and that 90% of them come from the factory that way. they wouldn't even bother TRYING to order me a new one cuz they said the replacement would *probably* be the same way.


tell the dealer to shove it because one dealer told me that and i took it to the place where i bought it and as soon as i pulled in they took a few minutes and ordered one without question, along with ordering the passenger's side door thing.

what i have learned is that you need to befriend someone at the service dept. at a dealer and make sure you keep them as a friend because they can help you beyond belief when it comes to warranty work.

The Alex
08-22-2005, 02:04 PM
tell the dealer to shove it because one dealer told me that and i took it to the place where i bought it and as soon as i pulled in they took a few minutes and ordered one without question, along with ordering the passenger's side door thing.

what i have learned is that you need to befriend someone at the service dept. at a dealer and make sure you keep them as a friend because they can help you beyond belief when it comes to warranty work.

A dealer by my house not the one i bought my car from is having a Vinyl/Leather company come to the dealer to size,fit, and install it at the dealership monday of next week. I would've had it done tomorrow or sometime this week by i work all week.

iso
08-22-2005, 06:04 PM
yeah, actually, i'm having my dad (big scary italian guy) go back to the dealer with it after i leave for school, to get them to fix my clutch and the door panel. i'm also gonna ask em about the body panel around the headlight, cuz the gap is HUUUUGE.

mken
08-22-2005, 06:33 PM
I've taken my SS/SC in 3 times to where I bought it now because of 2nd gear popping out on me. Everytime, they said they couldn't duplicate the problem and didn't find anything wrong (although 2 of my friends have also driven it and had it happen to them, also). I've finally taken it to a different dealer today and hope they'll actually do something with it. Which reminds me, I'll have to give them a call tomorrow because I forgot to mention my brake light comes on going down the road, also. :rolleyes:

I also have the problem with the trim on the passenger door, but it is barely noticable, and I don't know if I'll bother with it.

rock555
08-24-2005, 04:52 PM
does anyone have a rattle comin from the passenger front side. theres on under the steering wheel on that panel but i cant figure out where the other one is coming from

tube
08-24-2005, 11:02 PM
My exhaust has a rattle when it's cold, but once it warms up, it stops.

mken
08-24-2005, 11:13 PM
I've taken my SS/SC in 3 times to where I bought it now because of 2nd gear popping out on me. I've finally taken it to a different dealer today and hope they'll actually do something with it.
Dealer gave me my car back today, along with the same line the first dealer gave me: "we couldn't duplicate the problem." Funny thing is, the odometer only reads 2 more miles on it than when I brought it in. They must have spent all of 5 minutes working on my car, nice effort.

Chuck the Canuck
08-25-2005, 02:16 AM
does anyone have a rattle comin from the passenger front side. theres on under the steering wheel on that panel but i cant figure out where the other one is coming from
Try leaving your glove box open and see if it goes away. My glove box rattles, and I have the exact same drivers side noise. Damn annoying. :mad:

__________
05 Black SS

IBGLENUNO
08-25-2005, 08:43 AM
i was told by my dealer that this was "normal" and that 90% of them come from the factory that way. they wouldn't even bother TRYING to order me a new one cuz they said the replacement would *probably* be the same way.

You better find another dealer to work with. I just got my car back from my dealer and they ordered and replaced the entire door panel (black/red) with no questions asked....and the new one is not the same. It looked good.

skater2968
08-25-2005, 11:25 AM
since the day i got my car, i've had startup issues, where it nearly stalls on start up, revs to around 1500 rpms, nearly stalls again, revs to about 1500 again, nearly stalls again, and levels off at around 900 rpm's, dealer "can't duplicate it" amazing, as now it happens just about every time i start up....

Ronnie Pendergrass
08-25-2005, 11:53 AM
I've taken my SS/SC in 3 times to where I bought it now because of 2nd gear popping out on me. Everytime, they said they couldn't duplicate the problem and didn't find anything wrong (although 2 of my friends have also driven it and had it happen to them, also). I've finally taken it to a different dealer today and hope they'll actually do something with it. Which reminds me, I'll have to give them a call tomorrow because I forgot to mention my brake light comes on going down the road, also. :rolleyes:

I also have the problem with the trim on the passenger door, but it is barely noticable, and I don't know if I'll bother with it.


My car pops out of 3rd gear, I havent taken it in yet because my STEALership service men are dicks. I am going to let it get so bad it wont even go in 3rd gear before i take mine :mad:

EndZz
08-29-2005, 07:41 PM
I have a bunch of problems with minelets see Major one is after driving about 20-28 miles at about 80mph the steering wheel starts to rattle pretty bad and and the left brake starts to lock up on top of that the engine goes up nearly 35F I swear if they say they can't duplicate it I'm going to raise hell cause there is no way i'm paying for the rental they gave me I'll kill the guy first. there theres the door panel like everyone else they ordered that and it pops out of 5th gear all the time. does anyone know why it pops out of gear what "mechanically" is wrong with the car?

CanadianSS
08-29-2005, 08:29 PM
Alot of you guys/girls have the gear pop'in out problem....
If that was happening to me, I would get the service guy or the service counter person to drive with me until it happened.
The GM dealership I deal with would do it too...

peace

sslemon
08-30-2005, 04:07 PM
I've taken my SS/SC in 3 times to where I bought it now because of 2nd gear popping out on me. Everytime, they said they couldn't duplicate the problem and didn't find anything wrong (although 2 of my friends have also driven it and had it happen to them, also). I've finally taken it to a different dealer today and hope they'll actually do something with it. Which reminds me, I'll have to give them a call tomorrow because I forgot to mention my brake light comes on going down the road, also. :rolleyes:

I also have the problem with the trim on the passenger door, but it is barely noticable, and I don't know if I'll bother with it.


I have been having the same problems but mine is popping out of 5th gear and the brake light and the abs light keeps coming on and the dealership keeps telling us the same thing they repalced an abs module but a couple days later the same thing started happening again.

Ronnie Pendergrass
08-30-2005, 10:24 PM
I have been having the same problems but mine is popping out of 5th gear and the brake light and the abs light keeps coming on and the dealership keeps telling us the same thing they repalced an abs module but a couple days later the same thing started happening again.

I have two friends, both with SRT 4, when ever you get on there car real hard, the "brake" light comes on and flashes, but under normal driving conditions it is fine. AS for an update with my car it is getting worse so i will let youy know soon when the tranny breaks..........it wont ake long I promise :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

05cobaltracer
08-31-2005, 11:36 PM
my oil life resets itself, i have watched to see if there is some kind of pattern as to how many miles, but it just does it whenever it feels like doing so, anyone else have this problem?

tube
09-01-2005, 02:06 PM
My shift light has never come on, is this normal?

Ronnie Pendergrass
09-01-2005, 08:11 PM
My shift light has never come on, is this normal?


it doesnt work on the SS's

tube
09-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Well that's retarded, why have it there if it doesn't work :confused:

phxSS
09-01-2005, 11:10 PM
Wow, Am I one of the few without any real problems? I have only 2 minor things:

1.) the leather problem of passenger door
2.) a paint chip on one of my wheels

And I redline my car almost daily, and have no problems :)

A1RacingSS
09-09-2005, 09:59 PM
:mad:GM really needs to get their act together and start making recalls. My SS problems are:

1) Exhaust leak at the header collector(*fixed)
2)The exhaust rattle (*fixed finally after 3 times, replaced muffler)
3) Leather on passanger side door panel too short
4) My passanger side window goes up much slower that the drivers side (*Already replaced window regualtor once)
5) Passanger side door weatherstripping is deformed
6) Drivers side floor mat is so cheap it has a hold in it after 2000 miles.
7) Spedo stopped working for a couple days, now works fine. ??
8) Wheels chipped
9) Bumper covers line up like crap
10) My back bumper cover's color is a different shade than the rest of the car (yellow).
11) Every once in a while it wont go into gear, like when rolling to a light and you go to put it into 1st its a little rough.
12) Drivers seat looks like it has too much leather yellow insert, its all wrinkled.
13) ****I also just noticed a little oil splashing on the valve cover and it looked like the valve cover gasket was a little moist...so i cleaned it dry and well see.

Anyone else with the problems that I listed that havent been listed already?

wasey13
09-09-2005, 10:03 PM
:mad:GM really needs to get their act together and start making recalls. My SS problems are:


10) My back bumper cover's color is a different shade than the rest of the car (yellow).
11) Every once in a while it wont go into gear, like when rolling to a light and you go to put it into 1st its a little rough.


Anyone else with the problems that I listed that havent been listed already?

10... Different materials being painted, very common on a lot of cars.

11... Its called a first gear lock out, so you don't misshift and blow your motor.

A1RacingSS
09-09-2005, 10:12 PM
OOOO thanks on the 1st gear thing, I never knew that! Well minus one off that list. But on the paint thing, your right. I am a collision and painting specialist. I know why its like that but it bothers me. I am very touchy about paint, especially when you have a-holes who work at body shops asking you "so you painted that back bumper huh kid?" Then when you explain to those morons the reason why they think your making up excuses. I mean anyone who is in the body business and doesnt know why the color doesnt match on the bumpers is an idiot and I shouldnt care what they think...but I do for some reason. Do you think the dealer would get it repainted or should I just entrust myself..?

wasey13
09-10-2005, 12:15 AM
OOOO thanks on the 1st gear thing, I never knew that! Well minus one off that list. But on the paint thing, your right. I am a collision and painting specialist. I know why its like that but it bothers me. I am very touchy about paint, especially when you have a-holes who work at body shops asking you "so you painted that back bumper huh kid?" Then when you explain to those morons the reason why they think your making up excuses. I mean anyone who is in the body business and doesnt know why the color doesnt match on the bumpers is an idiot and I shouldnt care what they think...but I do for some reason. Do you think the dealer would get it repainted or should I just entrust myself..?

This whole "paragragh" confused me, are you being sarcastic at all? :confused:

skater2968
09-10-2005, 02:08 AM
:mad:GM really needs to get their act together and start making recalls. My SS problems are:

1) Exhaust leak at the header collector(*fixed)
2)The exhaust rattle (*fixed finally after 3 times, replaced muffler)
3) Leather on passanger side door panel too short
4) My passanger side window goes up much slower that the drivers side (*Already replaced window regualtor once)
5) Passanger side door weatherstripping is deformed
6) Drivers side floor mat is so cheap it has a hold in it after 2000 miles.
7) Spedo stopped working for a couple days, now works fine. ??
8) Wheels chipped
9) Bumper covers line up like crap
10) My back bumper cover's color is a different shade than the rest of the car (yellow).
11) Every once in a while it wont go into gear, like when rolling to a light and you go to put it into 1st its a little rough.
12) Drivers seat looks like it has too much leather yellow insert, its all wrinkled.
13) ****I also just noticed a little oil splashing on the valve cover and it looked like the valve cover gasket was a little moist...so i cleaned it dry and well see.

Anyone else with the problems that I listed that havent been listed already?


I notice the passenger side window goes up much slower than the drivers side. That's how it has been on every car we've ever owned; I just live with it. Should I bring it in? i have paint that dripped off my car onto some metal or something on both sides of my car underneath the doors. Need to address that one soon.

A1RacingSS
09-10-2005, 06:33 PM
This whole "paragragh" confused me, are you being sarcastic at all? :confused:

lol No unfortunaltley im not being sarcastic....I do have all those problems. Some of them are wrong though, like the 1st gear thing, someone corrected me and told me it was 1st gear lockout, so thats not a problem anymore. And like the back bumper paint and panel alignment is just me be VERY critical of the car becuase I work on show cars, so everything on them is perfect.

tube
09-10-2005, 07:01 PM
There's a first gear lock out, so you don't put it in first and explode the engine, that's why it's hard to get it in first when you're rolling at a light. When approacing a light, you should step on the brake, and as you get around 1000rpm, put the clutch in, and slip the gearshift into neutral. Then, once you're *STOPPED* put it in first, it should go in fine.

Show Off
09-11-2005, 10:04 AM
i had the speedometer go out before i left the lot with it. it was stuck on 80.... dealership sent it out and had to have another one installed on the cluster......
lucky me!!!!!!!!

selfinfliction
09-11-2005, 10:05 AM
and my headlight is still on backorder.

iso
09-11-2005, 05:58 PM
i finally figured out why people keep flashing their high beams at me. my d.s. front headlamp is not installed correctly, so it's loose and jiggles up and down when i hit bumps, it's also aimed slighly upward and there's a gap between the light and the bumper where the light SHOULD be sitting. i have to take it to the dealer next week when i get home. i'm also gonna have them order a new door panel and i have to get my oil changed (synthetic only).

The Alex
09-11-2005, 06:10 PM
since the day i got my car, i've had startup issues, where it nearly stalls on start up, revs to around 1500 rpms, nearly stalls again, revs to about 1500 again, nearly stalls again, and levels off at around 900 rpm's, dealer "can't duplicate it" amazing, as now it happens just about every time i start up....



Crankshaft sensor
thats what my car did when the sensor f-d up

Ronnie Pendergrass
09-11-2005, 06:36 PM
and my headlight is still on backorder.

thats a hell of a note, i took mine in for the Drivers side head lamp and the had one in stock, a few weeks later i went in for the passenger side and had on in two days. Go figure!!!!!!!! :(

498Nova
09-12-2005, 01:08 PM
Wow,
What a bunch of pain in the butt problems.
I've had my 06 SS/SC for a whole 11 days now. So I looked at the door panels, so far so good. But like others, I haven't had many passengers.
The body panels on my car fit great. No issues there.
I have noticed that the color between the plastic parts and the metal parts is slightly different. I gather that's common.
One complaint I do have is with the paint on the sides of the car. It's quite dull. It really needs to be cut and buffed. I believe the dealer will take care of it, I just hope there is enough clear on the car.......buffing through it is a serious problem. I bought the paint and interior treatments, but haven't had the work done yet. Makes no sense to me to treat a poor paint job.

I have also noticed that the car was hurriedly buffed before I picked it up....and the buffer marks are obvious.

The car shifts like butter, no issues there either. And the clutch is very good.
I'm sure the muffler is rattling, but I really don't care. I plan to remove it in the future for something I can actually hear!

I have noticed a rough idle a couple of times.......

I don't like the way the revs hang between shifts!

All in all, I am enjoying the car. Sure hope I don't end up having to take it in for an endless string of issues.

Ron

BizoCG
09-12-2005, 03:32 PM
A peace came off the shifting knob the peace that say 1-2-3-4-5-R so I brought it to the dealership and they tryed to order me a new one but they dont make it I guess anymore so the bitch said that she can glue it back on or put a new shifter on that looks like shit. What's next are they going to glue my tires on unstead of useing lugnuts....

A1RacingSS
09-14-2005, 08:21 PM
A peace came off the shifting knob the peace that say 1-2-3-4-5-R so I brought it to the dealership and they tryed to order me a new one but they dont make it I guess anymore so the bitch said that she can glue it back on or put a new shifter on that looks like shit. What's next are they going to glue my tires on unstead of useing lugnuts....

My 1-2-3-4-5-R thingy broke off too.....I just put the B&M shifter in it though. What you should do is demand a new shifter.

BizoCG
09-14-2005, 09:58 PM
NO!!! Because they told me that the new shifter will not look as nice as the one you have tell them to glue that shit... That's what I did so far so good... They told me that the new shifter that they put in will not have the numbers on it.. It looks plan dont do it...

Heather
09-16-2005, 07:02 PM
If you are looking at my car from the rear, the right side of my sunroof doesn't shut all the way. I looked all around the sunroof and cannot find any reason why it shouldn't be shutting. Damn, I hope it doesn't rain before I can get it to the dealership. Anybody else had this issue? :(

dodgeZ
09-18-2005, 11:08 AM
Damn that sucks...

06_Supercharged
09-18-2005, 11:29 PM
If you are looking at my car from the rear, the right side of my sunroof doesn't shut all the way. I looked all around the sunroof and cannot find any reason why it shouldn't be shutting. Damn, I hope it doesn't rain before I can get it to the dealership. Anybody else had this issue? :(

Have a similar problem on mine. From the rear mine sits a little higher in the middle and if I push on it it goes down further and stays there. No leaks though, but if it starts to leak I will go back to the dealer.

detroit_tuner
09-19-2005, 07:58 AM
Fog lamps are failing....

HeppyCat
09-19-2005, 11:54 AM
I've noticed this problem off and on since I've had the car. Recently, I've got it down to where it only happens when I am accelerating hard on the interstate on ramp. Hard through 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The shifter will not go into 5th. Just won't do it. I have to either hold the clutch in for a while or put it in neutral and let the car slow down. The rpm's are matching what the should be when I go to 5th, its just like there is a brick wall that isnt letting the shifter go.

The Alex
09-19-2005, 01:30 PM
I've noticed this problem off and on since I've had the car. Recently, I've got it down to where it only happens when I am accelerating hard on the interstate on ramp. Hard through 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The shifter will not go into 5th. Just won't do it. I have to either hold the clutch in for a while or put it in neutral and let the car slow down. The rpm's are matching what the should be when I go to 5th, its just like there is a brick wall that isnt letting the shifter go.


That has happened to me with like 1st and 2nd but only if im constantly shifting between the two and its very rarely i the way i figured out how to get around having to slow down when it wont go into gear is to just shift back into the same gear with the clutch held down and then it back to 2nd. Never with any of the other gears though have i had this problem "knock on wood".

BizoCG
09-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Well today I got home and as I was getting out of my car the door handle broke off from the inside lol lol. This will be the 7th time bringing in my car to get something done again..... WTF... How many times do you need things to break to get a new car or is that engine problems that when you get a new car...

VTSS
09-19-2005, 09:18 PM
Hello This is my first post. The reason I looked this site up is mine is popping out of 5th gear when crusing and it has been back to the dealer 3 times and they are telling me its my driving. I am 24 years old been driving manual trans since I was 15 and never had this problem before and you should have seen the junks I was driving when I was 15.

Permafried-
09-19-2005, 09:39 PM
Well today I got home and as I was getting out of my car the door handle broke off from the inside lol lol. This will be the 7th time bringing in my car to get something done again..... WTF... How many times do you need things to break to get a new car or is that engine problems that when you get a new car...
Ok I shouldn't laugh but what do you mean your door handle broke off lmao...you opened the door and had the handle in your hand :D? Sorry to hear about your luck with the car...I've NEVER heard of a door handle just breaking off though...my stomache is starting to hurt. As for the lemon law you'd have to look it up for the area you live in...I'm not aware of any in Canada so I can't even begin to give you an idea...I've read about it but I'd prefer to not provide you with possible false information :).


Hello This is my first post. The reason I looked this site up is mine is popping out of 5th gear when crusing and it has been back to the dealer 3 times and they are telling me its my driving. I am 24 years old been driving manual trans since I was 15 and never had this problem before and you should have seen the junks I was driving when I was 15.

What kind of excuse is it's how you're driving...I don't see how they can possibly link the way you're driving to the gear popping out. I've hammered my LS in every single gear and never once had mine pop out...and if the transmission, linkage, etc. are all connected correctly there should be no reason for it to be popping out. I'm not sure if you'd turn up anything searching the forums or not but this seems to be a recurring issue with a number of SS/SCs.

Oh and btw welcome to the site :).

Permafried-

Heather
09-20-2005, 02:44 PM
Well, my car was in the shop for the past two days because there was a rattle in my steering wheel that was driving me up a wall. they had to replace the pinon (sp) and pretty much everything except for my steering wheel they had get a front end alignment... wow it's so nice now! Ever since I bought the car I just thought it didn't handle very nice and I always had a vibration in the wheel, but now that they fixed it it is wonderful. Maybe it is just great compared to the Chevy Aveo they hooked me up with to drive the past two days? If you have that problem you should definately take it! Also, they have to replace my whole sunroof because one of the tracts (sp) broke completely off :( I can't open my sunroof for a while. Just figured I'd share, so if you have that problem your dealership can't BS you.

Permafried-
09-20-2005, 04:11 PM
Well, my car was in the shop for the past two days because there was a rattle in my steering wheel that was driving me up a wall. they had to replace the pinon (sp) and pretty much everything except for my steering wheel they had get a front end alignment... wow it's so nice now! Ever since I bought the car I just thought it didn't handle very nice and I always had a vibration in the wheel, but now that they fixed it it is wonderful. Maybe it is just great compared to the Chevy Aveo they hooked me up with to drive the past two days? If you have that problem you should definately take it! Also, they have to replace my whole sunroof because one of the tracts (sp) broke completely off :( I can't open my sunroof for a while. Just figured I'd share, so if you have that problem your dealership can't BS you.
Hey this sounds like an issue someone was having with their SS on .net but it was mainly at higher speeds. Was the vibration just through the steering column or did the car have a slight vibration to it overall? He said he could also feel it in the brakes when he rests his foot on the pedal.

Thanks,

Permafried-

Heather
09-20-2005, 04:27 PM
the vibration was in the steering wheel and the car was out of alignment so the right front wheel felt like it was vibrating... i didn't have the break problem... but that's definately not cool.

wasey13
09-20-2005, 04:52 PM
Updated/Edited

Permafried-
09-20-2005, 06:28 PM
the vibration was in the steering wheel and the car was out of alignment so the right front wheel felt like it was vibrating... i didn't have the break problem... but that's definately not cool.
Alright thanks, I found the thread back buried amongst hundreds of others and let him know about the issue. His dealership has been trying to track it down and has come up with nothing but I'm not sure if they're looked into his steering column yet. If something is loose in there it could be more than possible that he would experience a wobble at only certain speeds (not going to bother getting into the laws of physics :)) and once he was above or below that point he wouldn't experience it at all.

Thanks for the heads up...hopefully something comes of it and glad to hear you found the source of your problem :).

Permafried-

VTSS
09-26-2005, 03:51 PM
Hey anyone there is with a transmission popping out of gear problem my dealer fixed it! They said that the brake booster vacuum hose was rubbing on the shifter cable. Its been five days since it popped out and it never went more than two days before.

fleckenwhat
09-29-2005, 04:50 AM
NO!!! Because they told me that the new shifter will not look as nice as the one you have tell them to glue that shit... That's what I did so far so good... They told me that the new shifter that they put in will not have the numbers on it.. It looks plan dont do it...




i did the same thing, with super glue...no problems yet

Go Blown or go Home
10-04-2005, 03:19 PM
Heather when did ur wheel vibrate? I have the same problem in bends it feels like the wheel is gonna pull outta my hand. No other problems but mine didn't start on me took it to the dealer and they said it was the clutch safety switch, seems to start fine now just got it back 2day though. I almost forgot i had to get the ac condenser replaced already too, rocks put holes in it and thank god for warranties. :D

connermt
10-11-2005, 08:41 AM
Wow - I know the SS is new, but there seems to be a lot of problems - not all of them minor - with your Cobalts (SS or otherwise). Guess you shouldn't have bought a dumpy GM :D - CALM DOWN PEOPLE - just messin with ya'
No matter what you have, it sucks when your car is messed up - especially when it is your baby - I feel for you guys (& gals)
:mad:
Did have a couple probs with my 03 SRT4, but they were all minor - still sucked though

connermt
10-11-2005, 08:44 AM
Hello This is my first post. The reason I looked this site up is mine is popping out of 5th gear when crusing and it has been back to the dealer 3 times and they are telling me its my driving. I am 24 years old been driving manual trans since I was 15 and never had this problem before and you should have seen the junks I was driving when I was 15.


Man, dealers can be so stupid sometimes - I swear I think chimps could be better mechanics than some people that are working at some dealers sometimes. Unless you are pulling or pushing the shifter while you are driving in 5TH, or trying to ALWAYS top out your speed limiter, I would find it hard to believe it is your driving. When one dealer tells me something that I don't think is right, I go to another dealer & usually get a totally different answer. If you can, take it to a dealer in a 'better part of town' (not sure why, but it seems to work where I am at) or maybe even a dealer in a smaller town - they have seems to be more honest with me.

ssnipes
10-12-2005, 09:39 PM
any clutch problems out there?

mine is showing signs of being cooked.

start out in first, rev up to 3,000 rpm slowly, put the accelerator to the floor and usually tires start squealling. not anymore! clutch slips.

I have 5700km's on it and when I bought the car it had 800KM on it. I figured ohwell it has warranty, right! well now I read the fine print. I dont think the clutch is covered.

Lets be honest here. sure I abuse this car. no different than other vehicles I have had. how can I be blowing a clutch all ready. I know how to use a clutch. I have put 200000KM on a honda civic and it was the original clutch. I bet someone cooked it during a test drive and now it is showing up.

I have never dumped the clutch yet! car is too new to abuse it that bad. no 1/4 miles period. always a easy clutch out to get going.

boy am I afraid of what the dealer is going to tell me. Probably I am SOL.

Vryce
10-20-2005, 12:56 PM
Hey all. I've been monitoring this site for a while, but never had two cents to chip in. I've had an `05 SS for a few months now. I post all the reasons I love it in a different site, but I wouldn't trade it in for anything (granted, I'm looking forward to seeing the performance upgrades when they come out. It's a good car, but even a good car can go faster).

Now for my new car owner woes. Couple of things to check.

Check for "show room abuse" - one model I tested had been rode hard and put away wet (high mileage for a new car 700mi) and a lot of interior and rim wear and tear. Kids test it and beat it up.
Check for signs of break in. I met one model where the driver side door showed signs of a slim-jim having done it's best to gain access (looks like all it managed to do is jack up the window molding).
Watch out for a security software problems. I've got an issue the dealership will look at soon where I'll be driving down the road; the alarm chimes 3 times and blinks at me (30 sec intervals), the air conditioning cuts out (fan works, but A/C dies). Then the next time I start the car, it won't turn over. After waiting a few minutes, its good to go, but annoying al hell. Passlock is NOT on, it just acts like it is.
Battery life. Car is 3 months new and after a few days without driving, the battery died. Called service and they will replace the battery, no problem.

I haven't had any other isses you folks have mentioned. Sorry for those that have. New cars see you around the forum (maybe on the street).

orange cobalt
10-22-2005, 12:47 PM
Hey y'all. I have a stripper with a 5 speed. This is my current driver to give my Silverado a break with the price of gas. I have a few concerns I would say. I have about 6000 on the car and in the last new months I have been getting a pretty noticeable slow speed clunk in the front end. I too have the fabric pulling away from the door handle. My radio will just go on LOCK out of the blue. And sometimes I have a hell of a time getting from neutral into 1st gear. I still have to get the car in for the airbag/ac wiring recall in the column. So I will be interested to see what the stealer has to say. But hell or high water I would like to get her fixed up. I was just wondering if any of yall are getting a front end clunk at all? The gf's Equinox was doing that and I got new struts put in. I'm going to try to get the same thing for the Cobalt. Guess time will tell.
OC

CobaltSSilver
11-05-2005, 02:26 AM
No clunk but I am only at 1100 miles. I have had ABS/EBCM issues along with the dealer do its own number of damage on my car that I am not too happy about.

Doc
11-19-2005, 09:52 AM
I found this GM site by accident, GM Tech link. They talk about the Rear Control Arm Noise that might come from 2005-2006 Cobalts. Here is their solution.

Owners of some 2005-06 Chevrolet Cobalts (Pontiac Pursuit in Canada) may comment on a squawk/squeak noise that occurs when hitting bumps, or when going up/down driveways at slow speeds.

TIP:: It may be easy to blame the rear axle assembly, as the noise will sound the loudest at this point (using Chassis Ears).

Replace the lower rear control arm bushing. This bushing is in a steel retainer, about the size of a hockey puck.

TIP: Special tool J 44570A is required.

- Thanks to John Mason

here is the direct link, its almost at the bottom.

here is the link for a PDF.

http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/cnt_mo/oct_05.pdf

LilBlueSC
11-21-2005, 08:37 PM
Heather when did ur wheel vibrate? I have the same problem in bends it feels like the wheel is gonna pull outta my hand. No other problems but mine didn't start on me took it to the dealer and they said it was the clutch safety switch, seems to start fine now just got it back 2day though. I almost forgot i had to get the ac condenser replaced already too, rocks put holes in it and thank god for warranties. :D


ABOUT THE WHEEL VIBRATION
go to your dealer we just got a bulletin in about wheel vibration and we are to install a new intermitin shaft in as you guys might not there is not power steering pump or throdle cable its all drive by wire.....

CobaltSSilver
11-22-2005, 03:00 AM
ABOUT THE WHEEL VIBRATION
go to your dealer we just got a bulletin in about wheel vibration and we are to install a new intermitin shaft in as you guys might not there is not power steering pump or throdle cable its all drive by wire.....


Anybody know anything about the gas throttle being a little hesitant after installing the GM sport pedals?

Also is the intermitin shaft a recall that everyone should get or only those with the Vibration issue?

LilBlueSC
11-22-2005, 10:09 AM
Anybody know anything about the gas throttle being a little hesitant after installing the GM sport pedals?

Also is the intermitin shaft a recall that everyone should get or only those with the Vibration issue?


Its not a recall yet its just a bulliten hasent been enough complaints yet nor is it a life threating issue.. atleast thats what my service advisor told me today.. so basicly if you have the vibration go to the dealership and say that u have the problem and they will fix it becasue the have a bulliten out on it.. and it is covered on warrinte so no worries there..

HeppyCat
11-28-2005, 09:25 AM
Well, my '06 SS/SC has been at the dealer since Oct 21st. Went in for a fuel rich CEL. Mechanic said it was reading 120psi on the fuel rail. They replaced the fuel module once, did not fix the problem. Ordered a second one. Waited...waited. Last week I filed a complaint with GM's customer service. Got an update from them this morning. Turns out the part number for the fuel module changed. 20 mins later, the dealer called me for the same update. Also said they wanted the '06 Cobalt LS ive been driving back and are going to give me an impala to drive around...yay waiting

CobaltSSilver
11-28-2005, 09:49 AM
Well, my '06 SS/SC has been at the dealer since Oct 21st. Went in for a fuel rich CEL. Mechanic said it was reading 120psi on the fuel rail. They replaced the fuel module once, did not fix the problem. Ordered a second one. Waited...waited. Last week I filed a complaint with GM's customer service. Got an update from them this morning. Turns out the part number for the fuel module changed. 20 mins later, the dealer called me for the same update. Also said they wanted the '06 Cobalt LS ive been driving back and are going to give me an impala to drive around...yay waiting


I'm sorry to hear that you are going through all of that. It is a parts issue I'm sure for everyone. At least it was for myself and a couple of other folks on here. The thing that made me the most upset is that the dealer I had my '06 SS/SC in for had done damage to the vehicle. I had the service shop and body shop both pointing fingers at each other. So far they have fixed everthing except for the stains to the Recaro Seats. I had the service manager back out on it saying there's no way they did it, my response hovered around the fact that it happened at Luby so whether or not the service department did the damage or not Luby is responsible. I have a call into GM and to Luby Chevrolet's General Manager about this.

Good luck to you and I hope they treat you right and don't damage your car like they did mine.

HeppyCat
11-28-2005, 03:02 PM
So the impala they gave me is crap. Complete crap. I called my gm customer service rep back and left her a vm saying I am unable to wait any longer. I am complaining fiercely now. Dunno if it'll help, but they can expect two calls a day now wanting the status of my part.

CobaltSSilver
11-28-2005, 05:40 PM
So the impala they gave me is crap. Complete crap. I called my gm customer service rep back and left her a vm saying I am unable to wait any longer. I am complaining fiercely now. Dunno if it'll help, but they can expect two calls a day now wanting the status of my part.


Be persistant, be firm, but don't lose your temper, yell or curse. Also if the dealer and GM customer service don't help you here are some other folks and entities out there that may be able to assist. Right now I am waiting on a return phone call from the GM customer service rep as well as the General Manager of the dealership. If I don't get a response that is acceptable in the next 5 business days I will be escalating this to the BBB.

http://www.bbb.org/
http://www.1-auto-car-loans.com/bbb-car-dispute.htm
http://complaint.bbb.org/

Also a link that is pretty cool with gas prices
http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src=Netx

Again Good Luck and don't take no for an answer. If they are into having you as a customer then they will want you completely satisfied.

HeppyCat
12-06-2005, 03:07 PM
Ok got a little updates here. My GM customer service rep called just now. She said they do not know where the part is and they are sending the area engineer to look at my car. It's been over 6 weeks now. Maybe I'll have my car by christmas?

The Alex
12-06-2005, 03:17 PM
Ok got a little updates here. My GM customer service rep called just now. She said they do not know where the part is and they are sending the area engineer to look at my car. It's been over 6 weeks now. Maybe I'll have my car by christmas?


Look man same shit happened to me only mine was in for like 3 weeks. I made the dealership pick up the payment for the close to a month the car was out, i tried to get them to pay for the XM but they wouldnt.

My advice for you is to do that same. I dont know how you are with being persistent at getting something, but make sure they at least pick up one of the tabs for the payment or give you some free loving from woman of choice.

gretty_d
12-07-2005, 01:47 PM
The ONLY problem I have had so far with my 06 SS (non-SC) coupe is that I found a cover that looks like a seat belt cover (round and flat with one side open) lying on the floor in the back seat, and I don't know where it goes.

Clutch is great, love the shifter, leather is perfect on doors and seat, not a mark on it. Please don't beat me up! lol

HeppyCat
12-07-2005, 03:55 PM
So the dealer just called me. He said my car is fixed but he wants to keep it another day to detail it. Fine with me, it's been 7 weeks, what's another day. But he also said that he is going to cut me a check for a months worth of car payments, insurance, xm, and onstar. The only problem Ive got now is can I hold on to that money until stage 2 comes out??

The Alex
12-07-2005, 05:26 PM
So the dealer just called me. He said my car is fixed but he wants to keep it another day to detail it. Fine with me, it's been 7 weeks, what's another day. But he also said that he is going to cut me a check for a months worth of car payments, insurance, xm, and onstar. The only problem Ive got now is can I hold on to that money until stage 2 comes out??


Ill smack you if you dont!

Needparts
12-08-2005, 05:25 PM
Here is some bullitens for you fellas

Hard To Shift Or Select Vehicle Gear, Shifter Sticks/Binds/Jams (Replace Shifter Control Handle) #05-07-30-015 - (Jun 2, 2005)
Hard To Shift Or Select Vehicle Gear, Shifter Sticks/Binds/Jams (Replace Shifter Control Handle)
2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada)

with 4T45E Automatic Transaxle (MN5)

Condition
Some customers may comment that the button on the shifter handle is stuck and will not move.

Correction
DO THIS
DON'T DO THIS

Replace the shifter control handle ONLY for this condition (refer to the Parts Information below).
DO NOT replace the shifter control assembly P/Ns: 15233739, 15233741, 15251133


Verify that the shifter button is inoperative by evaluating if the park pawl pin on the shifter assembly moves when activating the button. If the parking pawl does not move when the button is activated, the shifter handle will have to be replaced. If the park pawl pin does move, refer to normal diagnostics in SI.

And for the door trim......
Fabric on Door Trim Too Short (Replace Pull Cup with Wider Bezel) #05-08-64-036 - (Nov 3, 2005)
Fabric On Door Trim Too Short (Replace Pull Cup With Wider Bezel)
2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)

without Power Windows and Power Door Locks

Do This
Do Not Do This

Replace the door trim pull cup.
Do not replace the door trim.


Condition
Some customers may comment that the fabric on the door trim is pulling away from the pull cup.

Cause
This may be due to the bezel on the pull cup. It is not wide enough to account for the variation in the water cut jet process on the trim panel.

Correction
Replace the pull cup with a new design cup that has a wider bezel following the procedure below.


Sun roof button...

Sunroof Switch Bezel Comes Loose From Headliner (Replace Bezel and Retainer, If Necessary) #05-08-110-006 - (Sep 30, 2005)
Sunroof Switch Bezel Comes Loose From Headliner (Replace Bezel and Retainer, If Necessary)
2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)

Do This
Don't Do This

Replace the sunroof bezel and retainer (if necessary).
DO NOT replace the headliner.


Condition
Some customers may comment that the sunroof switch bezel comes loose from the headliner.

Cause
This condition may be caused by a broken sunroof switch bezel tab.

Correction
Inspect the sunroof switch bezel retainer. If it appears to be bent, deformed or mutilated, replace the retainer with a new one.
Replace the sunroof switch bezel.
Firmly push the sunroof switch and bezel into the headliner module in order to secure the bezel to the retainer.


Knock while steering.......
ASI Resolution - EI05093 - Clunk in Steering System at Slow Speeds While Turning and/or Driving Over Bumps (Replace Intermediate Shaft) #05-02-32-005B - (Oct 28, 2005)
EI05093 -- Clunk in Steering System at Slow Speeds While Turning and/or Driving Over Bumps (Replace Intermediate Shaft)
2005-2006 Chevrolet Cobalt

2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)

2003-2006 Saturn ION

This bulletin is being revised to add additional models and parts information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-02-32-005A (Section 02 - Steering).

Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle during a turning maneuver. This condition can also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Typically, the clunk noise will be heard once for every 90° of steering wheel rotation in either direction. This clunk noise may also be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel.

The following are characteristics of this noise:

• This noise is very random.

• This noise is independent of the steering wheel angle and independent of the bumpiness of the road.

• This noise is a low frequency dull one and can be felt in your feet.

• This noise can normally be heard from the driver seat.

• This noise can be felt upon touching the steering gear from outside of the vehicle.

Note that you might also notice a slight scrub-type noise when turning the wheel back and forth. This type of noise is considered normal and repairs will not eliminate it.

Cause
This condition may be caused by inadequate lubrication of the steering intermediate shaft.

Correction
DO NOT REPLACE THE STEERING GEAR OR STEERING COLUMN ASSEMBLY.

Replace the intermediate shaft.

mken
12-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Fabric on Door Trim Too Short (Replace Pull Cup with Wider Bezel) #05-08-64-036 - (Nov 3, 2005) One of the things on my list when I dropped my SS/SC off a couple days ago. Got it back today with the dealer telling me there is no such bulletin or fix for it. I pointed out a thread with the same info on .net and he told me that "you can't trust these kids on those forums, they're full of shit most of the time" and that none of these people have access to that kind of info anyways. Haven't found anyone at Bill Heard here in Plant City with even a single clue. My other local option is Michael Holley, and they're not any better. Took my car there to see if they'd fix the problem I have with 2nd gear popping out on me sometimes and they gave it back saying they couldn't duplicate the problem. Saw that they only drove it for 1 mile, probably to the back of the lot and back up front again when I came to pick it up. Hopefully Bill Heard finally fixed the problem today. The shifter feels clunky now (forget about power shifting) but at least the lever doesn't wiggle when I let the clutch out like it did everytime I let it out before so I guess that's a start.

potatoe
12-09-2005, 04:30 AM
I was just gonna tell them the bulletins needparts...

Needparts
12-09-2005, 05:12 AM
sorry bout that there Jim.
Snow coming today.

The Alex
12-09-2005, 01:48 PM
I got that info about a month ago. They've have known what they were going to do witht he trim piece on the passenger door for 3 months. Im taking mine to the dealer today once again for the Fuel Economy being shitty and for second gear fucking up everytime im trying to accelerate fast.

Sp00ner
12-09-2005, 02:05 PM
Do you guys have an issue with it pulling to the left? Alot of the RL's want to drift left when coasting.

The Alex
12-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Do you guys have an issue with it pulling to the left? Alot of the RL's want to drift left when coasting.

Yes YES YES. God i hate that it reminds me of my ford exlorer that needed an alignment.

Sp00ner
12-09-2005, 02:12 PM
Yes YES YES. God i hate that it reminds me of my ford exlorer that needed an alignment.

WTF is the deal with that???? I've been trying to figure it our for weeks now. It only occurs on the interstate for me, only when coasting, and even with the road leaning right instead of left...

Alot of the RLers are going nuts... I circuit race my RL, so I thought maybe I was out of alignment, but it seems to be widespread...

I'm a mod from the RL forum BTW...

The Alex
12-09-2005, 02:49 PM
WTF is the deal with that???? I've been trying to figure it our for weeks now. It only occurs on the interstate for me, only when coasting, and even with the road leaning right instead of left...

Alot of the RLers are going nuts... I circuit race my RL, so I thought maybe I was out of alignment, but it seems to be widespread...

I'm a mod from the RL forum BTW...

i notice it more on the interstate then regular road. I know that the interstate is sloped for water roll off and what not but the doesnt mean my car should pull like it needs an alignment. Im going to the dealer monday for my monthy bitching about probs with my car i.e Fuel Economy Gauge, Left pull, Door Trim.

Needparts
12-09-2005, 03:03 PM
Im telling you right now, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR FUEL ECONOMY.
Ease off the gas a bit and it wont seem so bad. You drive a bossted vehicle. more air=more fuel. Think about it. There is no fix for the door trim for the cobalts with power windows yet. They will tell you the same thing. Ill look for something about the pull to the left, hold on.

Sp00ner
12-09-2005, 03:10 PM
Im telling you right now, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR FUEL ECONOMY.
Ease off the gas a bit and it wont seem so bad. You drive a bossted vehicle. more air=more fuel. Think about it. There is no fix for the door trim for the cobalts with power windows yet. They will tell you the same thing. Ill look for something about the pull to the left, hold on.

I average 20 mpg, or less, in the city. On the highway, I've hit over 30...

The stop and go, KILLS the LSJ mileage...

Needparts
12-09-2005, 03:12 PM
found nothing for a pull, but if you want i can post up your cars alignment specs to take with you for comparison

Needparts
12-09-2005, 03:15 PM
I average 20 mpg, or less, in the city. On the highway, I've hit over 30...

The stop and go, KILLS the LSJ mileage...


I found a lot of bullitnes for your car. Anything wrong other than the pull???

Sp00ner
12-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Nope, we have a list over at the RL forums. Alot of people have dug up bulletins for the wrong car before. What all did you find? I'm a mod over there, if anyone remembers me...

I had to have the Cam Sensor recall done the day I got the car, but beyond that there's nothing that's not explained by circuit racing...

Appreciate the check...

Needparts
12-09-2005, 03:18 PM
Im a GM tech, and im on the Service information site. Its basically a repair manual for every GM vehicle. Anything you need i can get.

Needparts
12-09-2005, 03:21 PM
Customer Satisfaction - Camshaft Position Sensor Housing Seal Replacement #05522 - (May 6, 2005)
CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR HOUSING SEAL REPLACEMENT
2004-2005 ION Red Line Vehicles with Supercharged 2.0L 4-Cylinder (LSJ) Engines

All Saturn Retailers and Authorized Service Providers in the United States

Important: Saturn Retailers in Canada: The Canadian version of this bulletin follows the U.S. version.


Saturn has learned that certain 2004 and 2005 model year Saturn ION Red Line vehicles equipped with supercharged 2.0L 4-cylinder (LSJ) engines have a condition where the camshaft position sensor housing seal may fail prematurely, resulting in an engine oil leak. Engine damage could occur if the oil level is significantly low.

To correct this condition, Saturn retailers will install a new camshaft position sensor housing seal that has been re-designed to improve seal life. This service will be performed at no cost to the owner.

Vehicles Involved
Certain 2004 and 2005 model year Saturn ION Red Line vehicles within the following VIN range will require participation in this program.

4Z100063 - 5Z139240

You must verify program involvement through your AS400 system. It is important to note that program claims will only be paid on involved vehicles.

Owner Notification
Owners of all involved vehicles will be notified of this customer satisfaction program by Saturn. (Refer to the owner letter included in this bulletin.)

Facility VIN Listing
A list of vehicles assigned to you (Facility VIN Listing), which our records indicate were sold by or shipped to you, (or are located in close proximity to your facility) is enclosed. This listing contains:

• Complete vehicle identification number (VIN); and

• VINs of vehicles, which according to Saturn records are in retail stock.

The Facility VIN Listing is furnished to involved Retailers with the customer satisfaction program bulletin.

Those Retailers not involved initially in this program will receive a message at the top of a blank Facility VIN Listing that states: NO VEHICLES ASSIGNED AT THIS TIME.

Retailer Responsibility
All unsold vehicles in Retailers’ possession and subject to this recall must be held and inspected/repaired per the service procedure of this program bulletin before owners take possession of these vehicles.

Retailers are to service all vehicles subject to this program at no charge to owners, regardless of mileage, age of vehicle, or ownership, from this time forward.

Owners who have recently purchased vehicles sold from your vehicle inventory, and for which there is no customer information indicated on the retailer listing, are to be contacted by the retailer. Arrangements are to be made to make the required correction according to the procedure contained in this bulletin. This could be done by mailing to such customers, a copy of the customer letter accompanying this bulletin. Recall follow-up cards should not be used for this purpose, since the customer may not have received the notification letter.

In summary, whenever a vehicle subject to this program enters your vehicle inventory, or is in your retail facility for service in the future, you must take the steps necessary to be sure the program correction has been made before selling or releasing the vehicle.

The Alex
12-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Im telling you right now, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR FUEL ECONOMY.
Ease off the gas a bit and it wont seem so bad. You drive a bossted vehicle. more air=more fuel. Think about it. There is no fix for the door trim for the cobalts with power windows yet. They will tell you the same thing. Ill look for something about the pull to the left, hold on.


How come for the first 3000 miles i got an avg of 26 mpg. I got the oil changed and a week after it went poof. I took it in and they updated the ECU and it worked like it did when i bought it and about 2 and half weeks ago it went back to telling me i getting 20 mpg on the highway i know its only an avg but WTF mate. Im driving 95% highway. I only got 18mpg out of a full tank and that was granny driving it trying to get the best MPG possible.

As far as you hitting 30 man i cant get it to get any better then 23-24.

AND IM NOT DRIVING OVER 65-70 MPH

Needparts
12-09-2005, 04:11 PM
What they will do is get someone to take your car home over night, with a full tank, and figure out the mpg. Then if there is a problem they will try to diagnose it. But i doubt they will. Let us know.

The Alex
12-09-2005, 06:49 PM
What they will do is get someone to take your car home over night, with a full tank, and figure out the mpg. Then if there is a problem they will try to diagnose it. But i doubt they will. Let us know.

Yeah i doubt they will i have a hard enough time convincing them to look at. Ill keep everyone posted on it.

J.D.
12-09-2005, 07:07 PM
What RPMs do you cruise at? I find I get MUCH better economy by keeping it at about 3k, lower or higher and my MPG tanks. Since the reflash seemed to help though, I am wondering if it is not some kind of problem with the A.I.? It's learning to dump gas for some reason over time.

The Alex
12-09-2005, 07:21 PM
What RPMs do you cruise at? I find I get MUCH better economy by keeping it at about 3k, lower or higher and my MPG tanks. Since the reflash seemed to help though, I am wondering if it is not some kind of problem with the A.I.? It's learning to dump gas for some reason over time.

At 65-70 it around 2700-3k RPM im pretty sure i kinda forgot. But i usually just throw on the cruise and just enjoy the ride, hence why im not thrundering around trying to play leader of the pack. Believe me though when somebody in a T/A or a Rice rolls by me i want to catch up and see if we could have a little fun but i dont like to do anything like that unless its just me the other car and the road. Street/Highway racing is dumb in the first place so if i do it its only the idiots that get killed.

Nauticabri
01-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Im a GM tech, and im on the Service information site. Its basically a repair manual for every GM vehicle. Anything you need i can get.

I have a question, say I went to a spec stage 2 clutch... How much of my warranty will they say is now voided because of that?? I hate GM and there service department/customer service always have and always will but I love my car. Unfortunately I will never buy GM again my next car (12-18 months) will probly be an Evo. I had tons of issues on a previous GM car. I won't go into all the details but, they had my car for a month taking out the tranny and putting it back together and all kinds of stuff cuz they're retarded, and they put something in backwards and tore up my NEW tranny, they're ignorant beyond belief. I didn't pay adime cuz it was warrantied and there was a service bulletin about the issue I was having. I haven't had any issues with my CSS yet but... the clutch is starting to concern me with all this negative talk about it slipping and being weak and such. I have had it slip sometimes on me when on it hard from launch thru 1st or 1st to 2nd at times, no other time... I'm DEFINITELY getting the stage 2 kit when they come out and that makes me more afraid of the stock clutch.... FYI I do have LSD... Comments/Advise?

16sy16
01-17-2006, 11:18 AM
Tried searching through this, but I didn't find it. What about the mystery knock from the truck area?

ssnipes
01-18-2006, 12:31 AM
I have a question, say I went to a spec stage 2 clutch... How much of my warranty will they say is now voided because of that?? I hate GM and there service department/customer service always have and always will but I love my car. Unfortunately I will never buy GM again my next car (12-18 months) will probly be an Evo. I had tons of issues on a previous GM car. I won't go into all the details but, they had my car for a month taking out the tranny and putting it back together and all kinds of stuff cuz they're retarded, and they put something in backwards and tore up my NEW tranny, they're ignorant beyond belief. I didn't pay adime cuz it was warrantied and there was a service bulletin about the issue I was having. I haven't had any issues with my CSS yet but... the clutch is starting to concern me with all this negative talk about it slipping and being weak and such. I have had it slip sometimes on me when on it hard from launch thru 1st or 1st to 2nd at times, no other time... I'm DEFINITELY getting the stage 2 kit when they come out and that makes me more afraid of the stock clutch.... FYI I do have LSD... Comments/Advise?
Clutch is not covered by warranty any way. cant believe GM could care less about you replacing the clutch, but the best thing to do is call GM and talk to Warranty directly. get something in writing. then you will know for sure where you stand. The dealers word is not good enough for me. just my thoughts.

I plan on just doing and not to worry about it until they bring it up. maybe not the smartest thing to do but it just works for me cause I will replace the clutch any way.

Chizzap30
01-18-2006, 09:59 PM
Well, I had my driver's side door rubbing on the front quarter panel when you open the door and making this creeking sound... So the service dept finally got the part in to fix it and they did... but then it started doing it again.... GRRRRRR... then when I'm up cleaning off my car I get in and the back lights for the lock/unlock button is not lit up and the buttons aren't even working!.. now I'm pissed

SoFlaSS
01-21-2006, 09:27 AM
Tried searching through this, but I didn't find it. What about the mystery knock from the truck area?

I dunno if i have the same mystery knock from the trunk area that you do but mine turned out to be the damn antenna. it was comming loose and it would rattle and make noise whenever i stopped, hit a bump, etc. I need to put some loctite in it or something cause it comes looses atleast once every other week or so.

16sy16
01-21-2006, 11:04 AM
I dunno if i have the same mystery knock from the trunk area that you do but mine turned out to be the damn antenna. it was comming loose and it would rattle and make noise whenever i stopped, hit a bump, etc. I need to put some loctite in it or something cause it comes looses atleast once every other week or so.
I doubt it, but I'll check. It seriously sounded like someone in the truck knocking trying to get out. Scared the hell out of us. I'm glad that I was with her when it happened, and she wasn't alone at night down town. She probably would've flipped out.

Nauticabri
01-25-2006, 08:47 AM
Random question. Why when I first got my car early on Id say for the first I dunno maybe 500-1000 miles when I got on it hard and took it to high rpms I would to chirp the tires shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd... even could 3rd to 4th occasionally when I tried to but now, get on it the same way, no chirp? Any explanations? Anybody else seen anything similar? Could it be that the clutch is wearing already, sumthing with break in or sumthing as simple as there was too much tire pressure and taking some air out gave more grip and less spin? Do you guys get ur tires to break all the time during that type of driving like I used to or what?

gretty_d
01-25-2006, 09:23 AM
I doubt it, but I'll check. It seriously sounded like someone in the truck knocking trying to get out. Scared the hell out of us. I'm glad that I was with her when it happened, and she wasn't alone at night down town. She probably would've flipped out.
OMG I eat lunch in my car and I'll sit there with the radio turned way down, and the car running. If I do this, after about 20 minutes, I get a knock-knock-knock from the rear. Sounds just like someone walked up and rapped their knickles on it. It creeps me out.

16sy16
01-26-2006, 12:15 PM
Random question. Why when I first got my car early on Id say for the first I dunno maybe 500-1000 miles when I got on it hard and took it to high rpms I would to chirp the tires shifting from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd... even could 3rd to 4th occasionally when I tried to but now, get on it the same way, no chirp? Any explanations? Anybody else seen anything similar? Could it be that the clutch is wearing already, sumthing with break in or sumthing as simple as there was too much tire pressure and taking some air out gave more grip and less spin? Do you guys get ur tires to break all the time during that type of driving like I used to or what?

Have you check tire pressure? Sounds to me like the clutch isn't grabbing with the force that it was when it was new.

ssnipes
01-26-2006, 07:09 PM
Have you check tire pressure? Sounds to me like the clutch isn't grabbing with the force that it was when it was new.I would think it the clutch. Its not made for alot of punishment. I have know idea how GM races with it

ssnipes
01-26-2006, 07:11 PM
OMG I eat lunch in my car and I'll sit there with the radio turned way down, and the car running. If I do this, after about 20 minutes, I get a knock-knock-knock from the rear. Sounds just like someone walked up and rapped their knickles on it. It creeps me out.
Its the trunk monkey that all.

05_Blue_B10WN_SS
01-26-2006, 08:12 PM
My car did the same thing... its the clutch wearing. It will go from "not chirping" to the occasional slight slipping. Then it just gets a little worse more by more.

Nauticabri
01-26-2006, 08:13 PM
Have you check tire pressure? Sounds to me like the clutch isn't grabbing with the force that it was when it was new.
That's what I'm thinkin too, but I shouldn't be havin this problem after just a couple thousand miles... Seems like spec stage 2 clutch here I come, even before I get the stage 2 kit. Im MAD :mad: If anyone else has any other ideas, please share

Nauticabri
01-27-2006, 08:15 AM
My car did the same thing... its the clutch wearing. It will go from "not chirping" to the occasional slight slipping. Then it just gets a little worse more by more.
How many miles before you started seeing it do that?

ssnipes
01-27-2006, 08:30 AM
How many miles before you started seeing it do that?
6000 K. I have 12000K now and still going. I have no LSD and it is winter. tires spin easily. see what happens. May not get through summer if I am too hard on it.

Needparts
01-29-2006, 11:51 AM
I think you need to learn to drive. I took a used trade in, out yesterday and it had 20000km on it, chirped all the way to 4th.

Nauticabri
01-29-2006, 02:39 PM
I think you need to learn to drive. I took a used trade in, out yesterday and it had 20000km on it, chirped all the way to 4th.
Nah I definitely dont think that's what it is... definitely clutch wearing...

Needparts
01-29-2006, 03:05 PM
Nah I definitely dont think that's what it is... definitely clutch wearing...


Your telling me the clutch is defective and wearing too quickly?
Thats Bull. you obviously cant drive the car. If it was defective, it would have slipped from day 1.

ssnipes
01-29-2006, 03:45 PM
Your telling me the clutch is defective and wearing too quickly?
Thats Bull. you obviously cant drive the car. If it was defective, it would have slipped from day 1.
I am saying there is something wrong and my first impression is the clutch is not strong enough to handle the Stock HP, as do others. It slips.

Obviously you show your knowledge in clutches and your ignorance along with it when you say it would happen right from day one which is false. It is a friction material that takes time to glaze over from slipping. Besides I can shoot right back and claim that its you who likley cant drive if you haven't experienced it because you may not be able to bring the car to its operating limit for your clutch to slip. Your the guy who gets 15.5 sec 1/4 while put a real driver in your car could get 14.3 on that very same day. you probably wouldn't know what a slipping clutch is.

Trust me I had a 91 civic new that I beat the hell out of because it made no difference in mpg if I did or didnt. put on 200,000 K and stock clutch. then I sold it like that and the new owner put on another 100,000 K.

Now I dont drive like I did with my SS. With this car I have gone from a complete stop only once, otherwise it has been driven with proper shifts and then accelerate hard while rolling. When I bought it had 1000 K's on it who knows what happened in those road miles. I noticed the clutch starting to slip at 3000 K. now if I was a really hard on it the clutch would be done as I have 12,000K now. I have taken it a little easier knowing the weak link and also we dont have much traction in winter here in CANADA.

The previous owner of your used car could have been a lady who never drove the car in a spirited way. You dont know how it was driven I suppose. maybe it had a clutch already done and that is why it was traded. DO you know?

There are tons of posts that claim the same as me, so I am not the only one. Its not all me.

When you say I cant drive what the hell does that mean anyway. Are you saying I hit the gas wide open and have the clutch partially engaged to glaze the hell out of it. I dont know anyone who has done that. and if they did it was once. Usually people inexperienced burn out their clutch getting unstuck in mud. I have raced motorcycles and done all my own work. Out of Highschool I apprenticed as a jaguar/volvo mechanic and did all of their front end work. I have managed GoodYear auto service for a number of years. Got sick of that work due to pay and now I am currently finishing my RN (Registered Nurse) and will be working ER and with Cardiac patients. I am not a punk kid like you appear to be.

I think your just trying to get under my skin, period. so take your attitude and be rude on a different site. Go bug the SRT guys or some ricers. Your not bugging me that is for sure. I know which way is up.

Becareful out there. dont roll your car. LMFAO

Bottom line I know more about my driving and this particular car then you do. so beat it. you dont believe me then thats fine. youve said your peice. then beat it. have no use for your contribution as it is ignorance speaking. go slam someone else. just keep this site clean when you leave. man...:cool:

05_Blue_B10WN_SS
01-29-2006, 03:52 PM
I feel the same way you do ssnipes.
When i received my car, it had 500 miles on, I have no clue how it was driven in that timespan. My clutch just started slipping, and i Just went over 4,000 Miles. Something is not right. MY car is completey stock.

ssnipes
01-29-2006, 03:54 PM
Direct quote from Soccer: check out the link -

No way do I get any better treatment than anyone else. Any modifications that are clearly for off road use will likely void the warranty from any manufacturer. Stock axles and transmission will handle the torque. You will take out a trans if you wheel hop enough. That is why I am designing and building my own torque damper.

As is common knowledge, the clutch is the weak link.

You definitely need injectors as you up the HP. The GM injectors are the only plug and play out there and they are the only ones that will work with the new cals without a MAF signal massager. Regarding exhaust, for performance, the best money is spent opening up the flow through the converter. Also, regarding the CAIs and check engine codes, the best option is to purchase a cylindrical filter element and leave the rest of the piping alone. The conical filter elements mess with the MAF signal and could set a code.

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3066&page=3&pp=10

See post 25

Nauticabri
01-29-2006, 09:10 PM
Your telling me the clutch is defective and wearing too quickly?
Thats Bull. you obviously cant drive the car. If it was defective, it would have slipped from day 1.

First off I have to thank Snipes for putting you in your place as far as your obvious lack of knowledge. Even tho I believe you were dirrecting your "you cant drive" diss at me Snipes took it as it was at him and thru some knowledge at you, props for that snipes. It is appreciated ;)

Now my response is simple since Snipes said all that needed to be said. I'll just emphasize that No I dont think the clutch is defective therefore would not be slipping from mile 1. I think the clutch is weak and has a hard time handling power or spirited driving over time. Therefore wears quickly hense the reason I and many others are now complaining about it starting to slip or not grab as hard as it did brand new... Hense.... WEAK.

ssnipes
01-30-2006, 05:47 PM
First off I have to thank Snipes for putting you in your place as far as your obvious lack of knowledge. Even tho I believe you were dirrecting your "you cant drive" diss at me Snipes took it as it was at him and thru some knowledge at you, props for that snipes. It is appreciated ;)

Now my response is simple since Snipes said all that needed to be said. I'll just emphasize that No I dont think the clutch is defective therefore would not be slipping from mile 1. I think the clutch is weak and has a hard time handling power or spirited driving over time. Therefore wears quickly hense the reason I and many others are now complaining about it starting to slip or not grab as hard as it did brand new... Hense.... WEAK.
Your right I thought he was meaning me. but my comments still stand for you because I know what your experiencing. I would have responded the same way irregardless of who he was calling out. Its BS for him to do that.

I back you 100% on your response as it is the truth. but you know what people have said before. Some people cant handle the truth!

What I would like to know is how are the stage 2 and stage 3 clutches from Garvana holding out? Who has one?

16sy16
01-31-2006, 10:39 AM
So, how about that truck monkey?

iso
01-31-2006, 11:07 PM
second day i had my car i was doing some spirited driving, nothing too harsh... getting a little squeal from the tires out of first. anyway, i power shifted into second and instead of the clutch engaging and a wonderful chirp emanating from the front tires, the rpms shot up and the speedo went no where. i was like !!!. so i let of the gas and the engine slows and finally the clutch catches. couple seconds later i'm swimming in the smell of burnt clutch. ok, so i decide to shift easier. a week or so later, i let my older brother drive my car. he's 24, been driving stick since his first car when he was 16, he currently has a g35 six speed. anyway, we just installed my CAI so we're dickin around enjoying the sound of the supercharger. we get to a light, and a riced out integra pulls up next to us and revs the shit out of his engine. i laugh, turn to my brother and in true vin diesel fast and the furious style calmly say "smoke em". light turns my brother gets a good launch, shifts to second and guess what happens? that wonderful spinning clutch again. it;s happened to me countless times since that first time. i even got beet by an expedition when i floored it off the line to get in front before the lanes merged to 1 and i was stuck behind him (i was late for work). it even happens when i'm not going all out on the car. the clutch just sucks. if i pull a 3.5 gpa this semester, my dad's gonna pay for a spec stage 2 clutch plus install for the summer. that way i'll be ready when i fork out the cash for gm stage 2... if it ever comes out.

iso
01-31-2006, 11:08 PM
besides that, anyone notice a clunking noise when pressing the brakes while backing up like down a driveway or out of a parking space? it only happens when i use the breaks going backwards....??

ssnipes
02-01-2006, 12:07 AM
besides that, anyone notice a clunking noise when pressing the brakes while backing up like down a driveway or out of a parking space? it only happens when i use the breaks going backwards....??
gee thats funny that happens to me too. except not when I hit the brakes going backwards, only get the clunk when I hit my neighbors garage.

16sy16
02-02-2006, 01:15 PM
Anyone else get a clicking from the clutch petal when it is being pressed/released?

mcglothlindl
02-02-2006, 03:24 PM
Anyone else get a clicking from the clutch petal when it is being pressed/released?

The click in the pedal I believe (but may be wrong) is called the neutral safety switch. I am sure if that is not the correct terminology someone will speak on it. :D

ssnipes
02-02-2006, 08:52 PM
The click in the pedal I believe (but may be wrong) is called the neutral safety switch. I am sure if that is not the correct terminology someone will speak on it. :D
Yeah Neutral safety switch is actually found on a automatic transmission. but I believe which switch you were meaning any way. the engine wont turn over if the clutch is not disengage (pedal to the floor) but you know I never hear a clicking in my car from that. I will listen closer next time. usually have the radio on.

drkangl
02-06-2006, 11:21 AM
besides that, anyone notice a clunking noise when pressing the brakes while backing up like down a driveway or out of a parking space? it only happens when i use the breaks going backwards....??


In my Cavy I had the same problem. We ended up looking at the back breaks and found on the back right side some of the parts weren't attached, you know what I mean? Like a spring was just hanging. We redid the back breaks and it worked fine after that. It was the first time I watched anyone do it so bear with me. When we first heard it we thought it was something in the trunk, but nothing was in there, and if there was it was in its place. Bit it did it when I pressed on the breaks period. Most of the time.

16sy16
02-06-2006, 11:30 AM
Yeah Neutral safety switch is actually found on a automatic transmission. but I believe which switch you were meaning any way. the engine wont turn over if the clutch is not disengage (pedal to the floor) but you know I never hear a clicking in my car from that. I will listen closer next time. usually have the radio on.

I've heard it called the clutch pedal switch before, but I wouldn't of thought that it would be THAT loud. I drove a Typhoon (Syclone, but off of a Jimmy body) once that the brake switch was making that noise, and a little wheel bearing grease on the slider part of the switch, and the noise went away. Maybe I'll try that...

Does anyone else's car do this?

SoFlaSS
02-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Yea, I hear it when I press the clutch in to start my car. At first, it bothered me too. So, I got down there, looked up, and pushed the clutch with my hand. It turned out to be the safety switch that you were talking about. Grease should work just don't use to much and I don't recommend oil, after all it is electronic and if it shorts out the car won't start.

16sy16
02-07-2006, 10:21 AM
So is it supposed to make a noise, or is it just a crappy switch?

Needparts
02-14-2006, 05:34 PM
First off I have to thank Snipes for putting you in your place as far as your obvious lack of knowledge. Even tho I believe you were dirrecting your "you cant drive" diss at me Snipes took it as it was at him and thru some knowledge at you, props for that snipes. It is appreciated ;)

Now my response is simple since Snipes said all that needed to be said. I'll just emphasize that No I dont think the clutch is defective therefore would not be slipping from mile 1. I think the clutch is weak and has a hard time handling power or spirited driving over time. Therefore wears quickly hense the reason I and many others are now complaining about it starting to slip or not grab as hard as it did brand new... Hense.... WEAK.


Agreed clutch is the weak link, but why is it that you say you drive your car "properly" and your clutch slips, but i drive mine like i stole it and i have no problems?


ssnipes:
Do not call me a "punk kid". I will gaurentee i know more about this car than you. You may have been a Jag/Volvo mechanic, but are you a GM Tech? No. i didnt think so. You come across as the type who acts as if they know extravagant amounts, but actually knows little. I say take your clutch out, take some pics, post them up, and show me. If you are right i will stick my foot in my mouth. Until then I think you are just a bunch of whiners, who are not happy witgh what they purchased.

Swallow a knife buddy.

ssnipes
02-15-2006, 01:06 AM
Agreed clutch is the weak link, but why is it that you say you drive your car "properly" and your clutch slips, but i drive mine like i stole it and i have no problems?


ssnipes:
Do not call me a "punk kid". I will gaurentee i know more about this car than you. You may have been a Jag/Volvo mechanic, but are you a GM Tech? No. i didnt think so. You come across as the type who acts as if they know extravagant amounts, but actually knows little. I say take your clutch out, take some pics, post them up, and show me. If you are right i will stick my foot in my mouth. Until then I think you are just a bunch of whiners, who are not happy witgh what they purchased.

Swallow a knife buddy.Maybe your not a "punk kid" but you are acting like one. Maybe you do know more about this car than me, but maybe not. your right I am not a GM Tech. never claimed to be. Are you claiming to be that said GM TECH? I just said I do have car knowledge, how parts are supposed to work, and know how not to abuse my car but still drive it close to its limits with out breaking it. that is it. You accused me of not being able to drive and you dont know me or who I am. that info does not change your mind about my abilities than forget me.... your not helping the situation. your clutch is not slipping then your lucky or its just a matter of time. What a pics going to tell you any way. It slips... pictures will only tell you that and you will see very little damage at this point anyway. It still holds well for regular driving. when I say I dont abuse the clutch I mean no jack rabbit starts by dumping the clutch and no speed shifting. I start out normally, when the clutch is fully engaged then I hammer the accelerator. I make a shift then apply the throttle only after the clutch is fully engaged. infact I rarely downed shift due to the theory that it is easier to change brakes then replace synchronizers in the tranny. any Questions? dont bother unless your civil as I wont reply. That is why I thought you were a "punk kid". you had no respect for me and assumed alot.

ps - I love my car. Just got some repairs done today under warranty. brake pedal would not return all the way or would return slowly. Since you know this car so well I am sure you know why then (not).

Needparts
02-15-2006, 04:39 PM
Well if you want to be civil, we can do that and talk(type) like the mature adults we are. Mabey I can help you.

The cant drive comment was not directed at you, but none the less, i figured i would argue with you. What ended up being the cause of your pedal problem?

Nauticabri
02-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Well if you want to be civil, we can do that and talk(type) like the mature adults we are. Mabey I can help you.

The cant drive comment was not directed at you, but none the less, i figured i would argue with you. What ended up being the cause of your pedal problem?
You're correct your "you cant drive" comment was directed at me, not snipes, when actually it should have directed at nobody because I GUARANTEE the clutch issues that many of us are having are NOT associated what so ever with "not being able to drive". 99.9% of the people in this forum are her to talk about there cars, learn, give advise, get answers etc... If you feel the need to start throwing out disses at people when you have absolutely nothing to base them on, then maybe you should just keep them to urself and save the post space, because I dont think anyone learned anything from it, or cared to read it, or paid any attention to it either for that matter. I would like this to be the last thing I will post on this matter. Lets get back to what this forum is about...

Stubbles
02-21-2006, 07:52 AM
:eek: Wow...let's take her easy guys and gals... :eek:

Anyways, I have had my car for 8 months, put 3800 miles on it, LEARNED how to drive a stick with it, and i'll admit i'm still not very good. Sonetimes going out of first i let the clutch out to soon and it jerks forward and backward. (Not very often or long but probably once a week)

Now, that being said, i've never once felt my clutch slip. Not even a little bit. I do drive it spiritedly (is that a word!? :confused: ) Now, it's never been to the track, and will be while before it goes. At this moment it is bone stock and will remain so until GM stage 2 comes out. Then, once my clutch starts to go, i'll take it back and have them look at it. IF they don't want to cover the clutch, (which i don't think that they will cover it) then i'm going with a Clutchmasters clutch, and then further moding my car.

So, i don't know if i got lucky, got a good clutch, or just havn't driven it so hard to the point of having a slipping clutch. My question is: For those of us who have NOT had their clutch slip, how many miles do you have; has it ever been to the track; how often do you drive it hard; and what mods do you have done to it? Personally, i think (from personal experience) that the clutch slipping IS due to the driver. Most likely not them not knowing how to drive but, driving it too hard. If someone bought the car and NEVER drove it hard, i bet they could put close to 50,000mi on the stock clutch. Now i KNOW we didn't buy this car not to drive it briskly. I know this, i'm not nieve.

To ssnipes, you even said yourself "and know how not to abuse my car but still drive it close to its limits with out breaking it." Well, i beg to differ. How do YOU know what's breaking it and what's not breaking it. This car has only been out for 2 years! And i see you have a '05. So did you REALLY know that when you bought the car that "spirited driving" wouldn't hurt it? Obviously not.

Like i said, this is from my personal experience. My friend drove an '04 redline with 21,000 miles on it, and never once had brought it in for anything. And he never once had a slipping clutch. Trust me, he beat the HELL out of that car too. Now, with my car, i'm not aving any problems either. Maybe we both just got lucky, or those of you with slipping clutches got unlucky. Who knows. But we all know that this car can not take a beating. I know it *SHOULD* be able to, but it can't bottom line. (sorry for the long post!)

ssnipes
02-21-2006, 08:41 AM
:eek: To ssnipes, you even said yourself "and know how not to abuse my car but still drive it close to its limits with out breaking it." Well, i beg to differ. How do YOU know what's breaking it and what's not breaking it. This car has only been out for 2 years! And i see you have a '05. So did you REALLY know that when you bought the car that "spirited driving" wouldn't hurt it? Obviously not.First to address your questions. It is what you do with the power and the engagment of the clutch. power on before clutch is engaged = good chance of burning out clutch. . I know the principles of how a clutch works, and I have given the clutch every opportunity to clamp down before applying power. that is how I know. The clutch just does not have enough clamping power to not slip under full power with 100% traction.

Wheel hop = breaking axles. Dumping clutch puts undue stress on everything. the only way you dont know you are breaking things is from inexperience, not knowing how things work, ignorance, etc. that is how you know.

When you say driving spiritly that is abuse in my mind and if you want to change words then let me say this. I do not abuse my car - I drive it spiritly. it just sounds better doesnt it. but it is not reality. you mash the thorttle in every gear to redline is abuse. your putting extreme load on the drive train from the supercharger, pistons, clutch, tranny, axle shaft, cv joint and wheels leaving rubber on the pavement. The car has to be built to take it. IF you through a rod every time you accelerated past 6000rpm would you think that is acceptable? then why would a slipping clutch as I have described be acceptable.

I already explained how I drive this car in a previous post. I make a complete shift engage clutch then throttle. I am giving the clutch every opportunity to clamp down before power is applied.

EDIT: what I didnt explain is when the slip is experienced. your accelerating at 2,000 rpm - no slipping, 3000 rpm no slipping, 3200 to 3500 rpm tires are not breaking traction, but the clutch is as the rpms skyrocket to 6500rpm and your like what happened. this occurred and my foot is not even on the clutch. that is how you know! end of EDIT.

You've have told me how you drive and no slipping. great your lucky or it has not happened to you yet. mine started at 7,000k and I have 13,000k now. It only slips if your really on the gas and the tires have premium traction in 1st and part of 2nd. it rarely happens but it does it from time to time. the problem is clampping power of the pressure plate. the car needs a stronger clutch for the power it has. many people have identified it. maybe your car is good, maybe you haven't noticed it and you just grapped for another gear.

I only know what is happening with my car and that it is not due to my driving error. if it were my error guess what I would do... not whine but just replace the clutch already and get on with life. enough said I think....sorry you guys think I am a whiner because you believe no one else has the problem.

Take a look at another problem I had and you then see I do know what I am talking about when the dealer thought there was no problem with my car. lol they apologized up and down for that one...

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3284

But I dont care if two guys cant believe it. let me be myself with other whiners who cant drive their cars either, who have similar clutch problems. you can remain in denial or believe you know best. thanks for your lack of input and wasting others time.

Stubbles
02-21-2006, 10:58 AM
ssnipes, i wasn't calling you a liar and i know other people are having this problem. I didn't know your problem started at 7k, all i've read about from others is it started at like 3k, sorry about that. You're probably right about my clutch. It just hasn't had enogh miles to wear down YET. I wouldn't doubt at 7-8k miles my clutch starts slipping.

I think me and you are looking eye-to-eye. Dumping the clutch, WOT to redline every gear, and other ABUSE is going to F up this car, ANY car for that matter. Now, taking your car to the track is fine, i want to do it to. But being under warrenty, and from reading about the problems people are having, and not really preparing my car for the track, i have yet to go. I want to really prepare my car properly. (i.e. Torque braces, engine mounts, lowering springs, bigger sidewall tires, and a new clutch) People that take their car to the dragstrip, that's cool. But i personally wouldn't do it to a brand new car, unless i had all intention of HEAVILY modifying it soon after i bought it and didn't care about the warrenty. That's my 2 cents.

ssnipes
02-21-2006, 09:16 PM
ssnipes, i wasn't calling you a liar and i know other people are having this problem. I didn't know your problem started at 7k, all i've read about from others is it started at like 3k, sorry about that. You're probably right about my clutch. It just hasn't had enogh miles to wear down YET. I wouldn't doubt at 7-8k miles my clutch starts slipping.

I think me and you are looking eye-to-eye. Dumping the clutch, WOT to redline every gear, and other ABUSE is going to F up this car, ANY car for that matter. Now, taking your car to the track is fine, i want to do it to. But being under warrenty, and from reading about the problems people are having, and not really preparing my car for the track, i have yet to go. I want to really prepare my car properly. (i.e. Torque braces, engine mounts, lowering springs, bigger sidewall tires, and a new clutch) People that take their car to the dragstrip, that's cool. But i personally wouldn't do it to a brand new car, unless i had all intention of HEAVILY modifying it soon after i bought it and didn't care about the warrenty. That's my 2 cents.
we dont see eye to eye. I am spent and I am done on this thread.

Stubbles
02-21-2006, 10:04 PM
Well then....just trying....forget it...lock this friggin' thread!

16sy16
02-22-2006, 11:26 AM
Ummm... yeah. Anyone else's clutch pedal click when engauging/disengauging?

Hracso
03-10-2006, 01:39 PM
My sunroof is out - the part has been ordered and I'm waiting for the call. I also got moisture in the front headlight. The gas cap attachment holder snapped off and is now gone, and finally the grey interior paint on the doors chips off very easily - I keep my fingernails cut very short so I know that has nothing to do with it. These are such minor issues and yet they make my brand new car seem very used.

CobaltSSilver
03-10-2006, 02:05 PM
Ummm... yeah. Anyone else's clutch pedal click when engauging/disengauging?


I've heard of folks having this issue for sure. I noticed with my car from the start that the clutch is 'heavy' if you will. Figured that was normal, but noticed the damn thing chriped the tires very easily! :D Pro and con to that. The whole thing got better for me 'feel' wise with the sport pedals, save for the gas pedal feels like it is slower to respond, could be me could be the pedal sending the voltage blah blah blah, let me get back to the clutch now. The clutch doesn't slip on me in 1-2 shift, 2-3 shift, 3-4 shift, or 4-5 shift. The clutch does however feel a bit choppy just starting off in 1st gear. My wife's 94 prelude feels better clutch wise starting off. I for now assume that it is because the Cobalt Clutch is meant to be heavier for the added power that it has. However to everyone else having clutch issues I believe some could be due to bad driving habits for sure, those will know who they are, but for cases like Snipes I believe that he either got a bad part/set-up from GM, or that the part itself could not be able to hold up. In that case I personally will be looking at *when/if the time comes* for an aftermarket clutch. Again assuming I need it and if I keep the car that long. If the car gets to where the clutch is an issue a little too soon, I will probably fix it then sell it off to get myself something more reliable.

For now *knock on wood* my Cobalt has been trouble free since the issues I had with the ABS/EBCM module when the car had just under 1K miles on it!

Good luck to those out there with issues, I feel your pain. Just look up some of my posting on issues I had with a dealer here in Colorado and how GM responded.

Golf Girl
03-31-2006, 07:06 PM
I was just wondering if any of yall are getting a front end clunk at all? The gf's Equinox was doing that and I got new struts put in. I'm going to try to get the same thing for the Cobalt. Guess time will tell.
OC

I have that problem on mine. I guess it's just the 'regular' Cobalts. I have 14,500 miles on it and the clunking is getting worse. Dealer told me nothing they can do about it, Chevy is aware of the problem. I have a second appt next week and will complain some more. :(

Tried searching through this, but I didn't find it. What about the mystery knock from the trunk area?

It's the fuel pump. And it scares me each time I hear it! ;)

orange cobalt
04-01-2006, 02:38 PM
Well since that post I had new front struts put in and the clunking stopped for a while. Now the car is approaching about 12,000 miles and the clunk is definately back and worse then ever. Car is heading to the body shop on Monday to have the hood and bumper painted for the 3rd time cause they can't get the color right. After that the car is definatley going back in for the clunk. Also, has anyone figured out what the hell the rattle is on the passenger side glove box area??? That is damn annoying??? Thanks!

16sy16
04-01-2006, 03:48 PM
I've heard that too! Sounds like a light metalic rattle?

CobaltSSilver
04-02-2006, 11:11 PM
Well since that post I had new front struts put in and the clunking stopped for a while. Now the car is approaching about 12,000 miles and the clunk is definately back and worse then ever. Car is heading to the body shop on Monday to have the hood and bumper painted for the 3rd time cause they can't get the color right. After that the car is definatley going back in for the clunk. Also, has anyone figured out what the hell the rattle is on the passenger side glove box area??? That is damn annoying??? Thanks!

You guys and gals may want to do a search, I recall something similar to this being fixed by a 'recall' I hate saying that because the thread mentioned it would only get fixed if asked. If I find the thread I will post it here, but I know that it is out there.

LittleStealthSS
04-05-2006, 06:53 AM
How about keeping the car aligned????

Mine was pulling pretty bad to the left, and I took it in for a front end alignment. 2 weeks later, it's doing it again.

When I'm moving slow ( under 10mph ) the steering wheel literally starts rotating counterclockwise no matter what side of the road I'm on. First I thougt it was the road sloping, or being a bad pave job, but doesn't matter which lane, or what road I'm on.

When the brakes are cold and I apply them... the car pulls bad to the left, then jerks to the right. After they scrubb off, then it's back to normal.
( I've had the brakes cut 3 times up front, twice on the rear )

Let me just add.... I do NOT beat on this car. I drive it 100 miles a day for work on the highway 99% of the time.

LittleStealthSS
04-05-2006, 06:57 AM
Ummm... yeah. Anyone else's clutch pedal click when engauging/disengauging?


YES!!!

I asked about that after 500 miles on my car. I didn't notice it at first, but when I took it to the dealer, they said after taking a look at other stock units on the lot, that it was "normal". They had a term for the part that was making the click, but can't remember the exact term used. I THINK they called it a clutch switch or somthing like that. Still annoying as all hell. Not bad in the afternoon with the radio up and windows down, but in the AM... I hear it.

CobaltSSilver
04-05-2006, 11:31 AM
YES!!!

I asked about that after 500 miles on my car. I didn't notice it at first, but when I took it to the dealer, they said after taking a look at other stock units on the lot, that it was "normal". They had a term for the part that was making the click, but can't remember the exact term used. I THINK they called it a clutch switch or somthing like that. Still annoying as all hell. Not bad in the afternoon with the radio up and windows down, but in the AM... I hear it.

Yeah I hear it as well. I do the same thing, radio up windows down! :)

Mahadigus
04-10-2006, 01:17 AM
I have this annoying rattle in the left rear of my car...started about 2 weeks ago and it seems to rattle everytime i go over a bump or crack in the road...anyone have this problem or know of any solutions??? I was thinking it was ths sub or one of the wire looms that are on my rear deck lid but they are all tight and the sub only rattles if i give it a good smack...plus all the screws on it are tight...any ideas????

iso
04-10-2006, 02:19 AM
funny thing happened to me the other day... this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/redss/car/IMG_0600.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/redss/car/IMG_0601.jpg

i'll get some more pics after i super glue it back on...

Sp00ner
04-10-2006, 10:18 AM
YES!!!

I asked about that after 500 miles on my car. I didn't notice it at first, but when I took it to the dealer, they said after taking a look at other stock units on the lot, that it was "normal". They had a term for the part that was making the click, but can't remember the exact term used. I THINK they called it a clutch switch or somthing like that. Still annoying as all hell. Not bad in the afternoon with the radio up and windows down, but in the AM... I hear it.

One click is the switch that turns off the cruise control, if engaged. That's the first click. The click near the floor is the starter 'allow' switch.

Golf Girl
04-10-2006, 06:34 PM
I have this annoying rattle in the left rear of my car...started about 2 weeks ago and it seems to rattle everytime i go over a bump or crack in the road...anyone have this problem or know of any solutions??? I was thinking it was ths sub or one of the wire looms that are on my rear deck lid but they are all tight and the sub only rattles if i give it a good smack...plus all the screws on it are tight...any ideas????
Could it be the fenderwell is not screwed down tightly? Mine are loose even with the screws in place.

willncandace
04-10-2006, 07:12 PM
I have this annoying rattle in the left rear of my car...started about 2 weeks ago and it seems to rattle everytime i go over a bump or crack in the road...anyone have this problem or know of any solutions??? I was thinking it was ths sub or one of the wire looms that are on my rear deck lid but they are all tight and the sub only rattles if i give it a good smack...plus all the screws on it are tight...any ideas????

have you checked the antenna? i would hear the same noise. went to the back and found my antenna was not screwed on tight. after that, went away!

Mahadigus
04-10-2006, 10:47 PM
I had a buddy ride in the back seat with the other half folded down and he found that the noise was comming for my sub woofer....so i poped the trunk and if i smack it, it makes the rattle...took the sub out drove around...no rattle...put it back in the rattle is back...i can't figure out why it is doing it... the the box is bolted tight the sub/box assembly is tight...i shook the hell out of it when i had it out....but yet when it goes back in the rattle comes back....I'm thinking of dyna matting where it bolts down and we'll see what happens....

-Mark

CobaltSSilver
04-11-2006, 02:19 AM
Well, my car was in the shop for the past two days because there was a rattle in my steering wheel that was driving me up a wall. they had to replace the pinon (sp) and pretty much everything except for my steering wheel they had get a front end alignment... wow it's so nice now! Ever since I bought the car I just thought it didn't handle very nice and I always had a vibration in the wheel, but now that they fixed it it is wonderful. Maybe it is just great compared to the Chevy Aveo they hooked me up with to drive the past two days? If you have that problem you should definately take it! Also, they have to replace my whole sunroof because one of the tracts (sp) broke completely off :( I can't open my sunroof for a while. Just figured I'd share, so if you have that problem your dealership can't BS you.

I've got the rattle. I notice it around 25+ MPH, no vibration but my alignment is off a bit. I am going to take it in and see if I have the same issue as above. Did they have to do anything else to get the rattle out?

LittleStealthSS
04-11-2006, 05:45 AM
I've got the rattle. I notice it around 25+ MPH, no vibration but my alignment is off a bit. I am going to take it in and see if I have the same issue as above. Did they have to do anything else to get the rattle out?

My parking lot here at work looks like a moonscape, and below 10mph ( all the faster you can go with it like this ) I get a wierd clunky rattle somewhere in the dash/steering area. Drives me nuts since it only does it there.

Also.... as stated in other posts, I've had my SS alinged once already ( 4K miles and 3 weeks ago) and it is pulling to the left again. It's bad enough that when sitting in traffic and creeping along @ 5mph, the steering wheel turns on it's own like it's on a track, to the left no matter what side of the road I'm on.

Also, my favorite problem, my dreaded brake pulse, is back. It had gone away for about 8K miles, but is back for the attack again.

Have a call into the dealer yesterday, and waiting to hear back about an appointment, with a nice laundry list of stuff to look at.

HeppyCat
04-11-2006, 07:43 AM
I've noticed the wheel pulls when i'm driving slowly - less than 10mph and there are ruts in the road. Especially when I brake.

16sy16
04-11-2006, 07:57 AM
That one is because of the 18's.

LittleStealthSS
04-11-2006, 07:59 AM
I thought of that as well, but it does it on smooth blacktop and concrete driveways, parking lots, and non-grooved interstates. Don't really matter where I am, the dern thing keeps a pullin.

Don't even get me started about when I apply brakes how it pulls. I was going about 5mph, and applied the brakes, and you would've thought a rope was tied to the steering wheel with the way it turned.

Less than 8 months now ( payment #8 in the mail Friday ) and 20,600 miles, and the brakes are STILL not right. I thought they finally got them down @ about 12K, but after 18+ they started lightly pulsing when cold. Now... cold, hot, dry, wet, dont' matter.... they pulse a little worse each day.

Car going in on Thursday to have the following looked at:
1) Brake pulse ( 4th time now )
2) alignment not staying true ( just alinged 3 weeks or so ago )
3) shifting difficulties
4) Wheel paint lbistering, flaking off.
5) Exhuast Rattling again ( this is after they put a whole new one on from behind the cat )

PLUS, it's getting the good ole OFL as well.

Fun fun fun! At least this time, I won't be sitting there waiting on it.
Leaving it for the whole day.

HeppyCat
04-11-2006, 08:55 AM
I was wondering if anyone else's wheels were flaking off. Three of mine have chips / flakes

LittleStealthSS
04-11-2006, 09:52 AM
I was wondering if anyone else's wheels were flaking off. Three of mine have chips / flakes


Yep... I got 2 wheels that are really noticeable with flaking. I though I hit something on 1 of them when I saw the paint off, but it doesn't look it after I washed up the car. No scratch, just missing paint.

The blistering of them worries me as well. Rest assured, from what I've seen here, we're not the only ones with the wheel issue.

CHevy has been having a few issues with their wheel suppliers. Talk to C6 owners about their polished Aluminum wheels and you're in for an earful. So much so that Chevy ended up going with a new supplier mid-06. The lady taking my info down was a bit shocked when I finished the "list" I had.

I'll keep yins posted.
H

ItalianJoe1
04-11-2006, 03:24 PM
Chevy has been having a few issues with their wheel suppliers. Talk to C6 owners about their polished Aluminum wheels and you're in for an earful. So much so that Chevy ended up going with a new supplier mid-06.
Chevy's wheel supplier for the Vette went out of buisness, which caused a huge delay in the corvette production and the cancellation of plans to produce a factory chrome wheel for the vette. I dont think they build the wheels for the cobalt too.

LittleStealthSS
04-13-2006, 05:13 AM
Yes, that is correct. I knew that there was a bigger reason about teh wheel supply issue.
I believe that now they have the chrome wheel issue resolved. I was in Bowling Green 2 weekends ago at the plant and there were quite a few 06's on the line that had chromies.

No, I do not think they ( the old wheel supplier ) had anything to do with the Cobalt's wheels.

I just meant that in general, Chevy has been having some wheel issues. Alot of people had complained abotu the quality of the polished alum. wheels on the C6 ( Cloudy, milky finish ) and then the whole bit with the mfgr going under didn't help either.

I have the SS in for service today. SHould be interesting to see what they do about all my problems.

I'll create a new post listing everything, adn what they did about it tonight or tomorrow.

domin8_gt
04-16-2006, 04:06 AM
My ABS light comes on every now and then after I have come to a complete stop. I can't get into the shop for about 2 weeks.

CobaltSSilver
04-16-2006, 04:58 PM
My ABS light comes on every now and then after I have come to a complete stop. I can't get into the shop for about 2 weeks.

I had the EBCM module go bad on me along with the ABS around 1K miles. My brakes still worked but the ABS light was on, and the brake light. My brake lights also would not come on outside the car. Parts took forever to come in and the dealer beat the car up. Turned into a huge and scare filled ordeal for me. I swore at the time I would never buy GM again because of this. I hope my heart softens on that but the dealer I took it to will NEVER get my business again for sure.

16sy16
04-17-2006, 08:46 AM
You brakes will work with an ABS light, your ABS won't work

ItalianJoe1
04-17-2006, 09:00 AM
Yes, that is correct. I knew that there was a bigger reason about teh wheel supply issue.
I believe that now they have the chrome wheel issue resolved. I was in Bowling Green 2 weekends ago at the plant and there were quite a few 06's on the line that had chromies.
I just got the first vettes in with the factory chrome... they are beautiful, and i dont even like chrome. Only bad thing is that they are a $1995 option. Thats too much for a chrome finish in my opinion.

LittleStealthSS
04-17-2006, 09:13 AM
Hey Joe,

Yeah, I saw the new chromies on the cars at the plant tour, and I liked them, but I wouldn't ever want them on a car. Not a fan of chrome on modern cars.
If I was ordering it would either be the standard wheel, or the competition gray.

Now I need to find a nice "stealthy" wheel to go on my car. If the paints chippin and blistering NOW with 20K on them, I hate to see these in another 2 yrs, with almost 100K on em.
Since the dealer says it appears to be "damage" to the wheel that is cuasing it I won't be getting that problem fixed.

At least i got new rotors.....

CobaltSSilver
04-17-2006, 01:45 PM
You brakes will work with an ABS light, your ABS won't work

Exactly I heard noise when the abs light came on coming from the hood are on the driver's side. The brakes worked just fine, but ABS was dead. Also brake lights on the outside did not come on. EBCM had to be replaced among other numerous items caused by the dealer who had posession of it.

CobaltSSilver
04-17-2006, 01:46 PM
Hey Joe,

Yeah, I saw the new chromies on the cars at the plant tour, and I liked them, but I wouldn't ever want them on a car. Not a fan of chrome on modern cars.
If I was ordering it would either be the standard wheel, or the competition gray.

Now I need to find a nice "stealthy" wheel to go on my car. If the paints chippin and blistering NOW with 20K on them, I hate to see these in another 2 yrs, with almost 100K on em.
Since the dealer says it appears to be "damage" to the wheel that is cuasing it I won't be getting that problem fixed.

At least i got new rotors.....

What's the scoop with your brakes? Are they heating up and warping the rotors or are the pads wearing down that fast? All 4 rotors, just fronts?

LittleStealthSS
04-18-2006, 04:54 AM
What's the scoop with your brakes? Are they heating up and warping the rotors or are the pads wearing down that fast? All 4 rotors, just fronts?


Scoops would probably help keep em cool, that's for sure! ehehehehehe


OK... I had all 4 rotors replaced FINALLY. After 3 times being cut down up front and twice in back, they had enough with it and replaced them. The "resurfaced & cleaned " the pads so the would be even. I don't know how that is going to work in the end, but we'll see. I have a few hundred miles on them, and will have alot more after this weekend. Taking a roadtrip to Eastern PA for a weddin' ( when will these kids learn !! ) and will let you all know how they held up running thru the "mountains" in PA.

CobaltSSilver
04-18-2006, 08:54 AM
Scoops would probably help keep em cool, that's for sure! ehehehehehe


OK... I had all 4 rotors replaced FINALLY. After 3 times being cut down up front and twice in back, they had enough with it and replaced them. The "resurfaced & cleaned " the pads so the would be even. I don't know how that is going to work in the end, but we'll see. I have a few hundred miles on them, and will have alot more after this weekend. Taking a roadtrip to Eastern PA for a weddin' ( when will these kids learn !! ) and will let you all know how they held up running thru the "mountains" in PA.

;)

Sounds like you're getting a bad brake *no pun intended hahahahah* with this! Sorry I couldn't resist that one. :D

Have your brakes always been bad on the car or did they start after a certain number of miles, hard stop ect...From what I have read and they should have been the strong point of the car next to the block itself, but I had EBCM/ABS go out on me in the first 1K miles.

prairie speed
04-20-2006, 02:57 PM
i have not seen anyone post this problem yet so here it goes. first off my car likes to stall at idle. does not seem to matter how long it has been running for. it will stall at start up and at stop lights. also when driving at a constant speed the engine stumbles and cuts out for a second or two.it's a very unnerving feeling and completly random.what's the deal? 06 cobalt ss/sc

iso
04-20-2006, 04:56 PM
i have not seen anyone post this problem yet so here it goes. first off my car likes to stall at idle. does not seem to matter how long it has been running for. it will stall at start up and at stop lights. also when driving at a constant speed the engine stumbles and cuts out for a second or two.it's a very unnerving feeling and completly random.what's the deal? 06 cobalt ss/sc

take it to the dealer, sounds like a serious issue. if they can't fix it, lemon law the car.

prairie speed
04-20-2006, 05:40 PM
i have an appointment to take the car in on Monday. the dealership seems baffled by my problem and i was really hoping that someone here had run in to this before. my thinking is if i could point the dealership in the right direction in the first place it could save me a lot of time and frustration.

iso
04-20-2006, 05:57 PM
i haven't heard of this before, so it's news to me.

CobaltSSilver
04-20-2006, 07:48 PM
i have an appointment to take the car in on Monday. the dealership seems baffled by my problem and i was really hoping that someone here had run in to this before. my thinking is if i could point the dealership in the right direction in the first place it could save me a lot of time and frustration.

Well man that's why you have a warranty, and that's why the labor on a mechanic is 65-110/hr. Let them figure it out. If they don't you can lemon law it. :)

canadiancobalt
04-20-2006, 09:22 PM
I just got a 2006 Cobalt LT with sport package. Three days after getting the car, the ABS and TC lights came on intermittently. Took it back to dealer. They "flashed" the onboard computer and reset it with a new program. Two weeks later, same thing happenned. This time, the dealer replaced the front right wheel bearing, as it contains speed sensors. Ask your dealer to check yours out too!
Good-luck!

LittleStealthSS
04-21-2006, 05:29 AM
i haven't heard of this before, so it's news to me.


Well, my 06 SS/SC doesn't completely STALL, but the idle DOES jump about when I come to a stoplight. It will dive down below 500RPMs and jump up to 1200.... back to 700... up to 1000, and then level off.

Somewhere back a few months ago this was brought up and was told is was something the SS/SC cars did, but not other motors. Don't know if it's just a "natural" thing the SC cars do, or just another problem.

BUT....
From reading some posts about the stage upgrades, once they reflash the ECU for the kits, that problem is said to have gone away....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

iso
04-21-2006, 11:09 AM
Well, my 06 SS/SC doesn't completely STALL, but the idle DOES jump about when I come to a stoplight. It will dive down below 500RPMs and jump up to 1200.... back to 700... up to 1000, and then level off.

Somewhere back a few months ago this was brought up and was told is was something the SS/SC cars did, but not other motors. Don't know if it's just a "natural" thing the SC cars do, or just another problem.

BUT....
From reading some posts about the stage upgrades, once they reflash the ECU for the kits, that problem is said to have gone away....
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yea, the jumpy idle has been a problem for many ss/sc's but thus far i haven't heard of them just stalling. the idle problem happens when the rpms drop too low and then the computer overcompensates giving it too much gas and then they drop down real low again and the computer compensates and then it will usually level off.

domin8_gt
04-21-2006, 08:31 PM
Yah, I've had this problem too. Not too concerned about it though. It sounds minor. Hopefully it does solve itself when I upgrade.

However, I just ran into another problem. The other day I was driving around and my wife with me in the car, can't remember where I was going though. Well, anyway, for some I decided to accelerate hard (can't remember why, either I chose to or I had a car coming up hard) and took my rpm's up to 6k. On the way up my car did something at 5k that was similar to not having fuel delivered to the engine for a split second and then immediately fixed itself. Being that my wife bought me this car she is, naturally, very concerned.

Has anybody else heard of, or experienced this. Does anybody know if this could be the beginning of a bigger problem?

CobaltSSilver
04-22-2006, 05:43 PM
My passenger side window rolls up and down just fine using the driver side control. Howver it will not roll back up using the passenger side. Will roll down but not up. I am taking it into the dealer on Monday. Anyone else have this issue? Is it related to the windows rolling down slow or not rolling down together?

LittleStealthSS
04-25-2006, 07:27 AM
My passenger side window rolls up and down just fine using the driver side control. Howver it will not roll back up using the passenger side. Will roll down but not up. I am taking it into the dealer on Monday. Anyone else have this issue? Is it related to the windows rolling down slow or not rolling down together?

My driver's window doesn't roll down or up as fast as the passenger's, but that's been the case with any of my cars with power windows. In time, the motor get a little slower since you use your drivers window more than the passenger's. I never worry about it since I've always seen it in many many cars I've owned.

As far as the switch not working on the passenger's side..... I never have passengers ( well, RARELY is a better word ), and that switch is rarely used. I usually just to do it from ym side. Sounds to me like a bad window switch.

CobaltSSilver
04-25-2006, 10:21 AM
My driver's window doesn't roll down or up as fast as the passenger's, but that's been the case with any of my cars with power windows. In time, the motor get a little slower since you use your drivers window more than the passenger's. I never worry about it since I've always seen it in many many cars I've owned.

As far as the switch not working on the passenger's side..... I never have passengers ( well, RARELY is a better word ), and that switch is rarely used. I usually just to do it from ym side. Sounds to me like a bad window switch.

Yup. Got it in yesterday and it was a bad window switch. You know what's funny is two things. I noticed that my passenger side window is slower than the driver's. My 05 silverado they both are the same and always have been. Not a big deal to me though. If they break from use they break. I've never had problems before, but I have a 6 year 72K extended warranty.

They also mentioned that something wasn't up to date with the flash when they hooked up to do diagnostic. I got the ABS and brake light turn on when I first started dirving it out the lot. I turned around parked, shut it off then back on. It went away. I read to try that in the manual but don't know why it did that. My guess is that it was a little slick out and my tires bounced when I accelerated setting off the abs? For what it's worth the car is finally running great!

Also the passenger side weather stripping on the outside bottom is looking out of place. That will be on the next service trip since it isn't too bad yet.

Thanks!

silver chevy
04-26-2006, 09:48 AM
has any one had problems with the pirelli p-6 i have had my car 5 months and in need new tires only 11,000 miles on them

CTCOBALTSSS
04-26-2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah if you are always peeling out or tacking corners at 70mph all the time they wear out quick. These tires aren't the best by far.

CobaltSSilver
04-26-2006, 11:24 AM
What's a good replacement tire for the SS/SC

LittleStealthSS
04-26-2006, 11:53 AM
has any one had problems with the pirelli p-6 i have had my car 5 months and in need new tires only 11,000 miles on them


I guess you need to specify what you mean by "problems"

Premature wear? Bad belts? Bad tire composition?


If it's tire wear you're talking about how often do you rotate them? How's the pressure? Is the car in alignment? Is it shimmy-ing when in a straightline without the brakes on?

I've got 22K on mine right now ( alittle over 8 months ) on the original tires, and they still have about 5-8K left on them I think. It's going in for another OFL in about 2 weeks, so they are going to be checking them for me before it needs inspected. I rotate ever 5-6K miles ( or every other OFL ) and check them twice a week to make sure the PSI's are ok.

That said... I don't do any "extra carricular" activities with the car. No burnouts, auto-x, drag racing, etc.. and my car is bone stock.

So... give us some more info, and we can help you out better. :)

iso
04-26-2006, 06:12 PM
What's a good replacement tire for the SS/SC

bf-g kwd2's are a good tire. if you go to tirerack.com you can put in your car and it will list available replacements and you can see the ratings and read reviews on them.

CobaltSSilver
04-26-2006, 07:25 PM
bf-g kwd2's are a good tire. if you go to tirerack.com you can put in your car and it will list available replacements and you can see the ratings and read reviews on them.

I am aware of Tirerack. Has anyone swapped the tires already and found a favortie for street use with an occasional track day? Plus best tires for drag/auto-cross? If not I can start a new thread or search the site if it has already been posted.

Thanks!

iso
04-26-2006, 07:34 PM
I am aware of Tirerack. Has anyone swapped the tires already and found a favortie for street use with an occasional track day? Plus best tires for drag/auto-cross? If not I can start a new thread or search the site if it has already been posted.

Thanks!

i already started a thread a while ago on tires.

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3836

CobaltSSilver
04-27-2006, 03:08 AM
i already started a thread a while ago on tires.

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3836

I see it from two weeks ago......Did you even rotate your tires during that 16K run you had with the fronts going bald?

Not a bad thread of folks giving their opionion from Tirerack and their prices...... Not a big deal since tires are getting better and better. I will go with reviews and what not for my daily treads when the time comes, and maybe I'll invest in some slicks for the drags.

Does anyone out there feel like there's a tire to stay away from due to experience for daily use and occasional track day?

iso
04-27-2006, 03:19 AM
I see it from two weeks ago......Did you even rotate your tires during that 16K run you had with the fronts going bald?

Not a bad thread of folks giving their opionion from Tirerack and their prices...... Not a big deal since tires are getting better and better. I will go with reviews and what not for my daily treads when the time comes, and maybe I'll invest in some slicks for the drags.

Does anyone out there feel like there's a tire to stay away from due to experience for daily use and occasional track day?

no, i didn't rotate them... so i probly could have gotten at least 25k miles out of them if i had. i never planned on keeping the pirellis that long anyway. i plan on getting 18x7.5 inch rims this summer and getting the kumho ecsta mx's mounted on them. i have 16" rims from my snow tires that i'm going to mount dr's on for the track :cool:

CobaltSSilver
04-27-2006, 03:20 AM
^^^^^^ Cool man.^^^^^^^

domin8_gt
04-28-2006, 07:55 PM
You guys will probably never believe me, but I'll post anyways with that in mind.

My front spoiler broke in the middle. No impact. The dealer is trying to tell me that I hooked it on a curb, or one of those cement stops, and when I backed away it pulled on the spoiler. Problem is when I left work the morning before I noticed it it wasn't cracked, and I don't have a curb in the stall where I park my car. When I got home I parked in my driveway backwards and can't scrape my spoiler on the ground, my entrance isn't like that. Also, I don't have scratches on the bottom, except for the grooves that were carved into it by the dealership when they put it up on those raised steel ramps every dealer has to show off a specific car.

Dealer said that they will try to get GM to approve a warranty repair, which he says shouldn't be too big of a problem since the part is ordered already painted and only costs $77.

I'll let everybody know how this ends up, but I wanted to let you know so that you could be aware of it.

iso
04-28-2006, 08:07 PM
i'm glad it's only 77 bucks shipped and painted... mine is all messed up from the driveway at my house down here at school

domin8_gt
05-04-2006, 11:27 AM
I just found out that my front spoiler is being warranteed, but like all things on the Cobalt it is back ordered. Allegedly, won't be in until next week.

wyoming_bass
05-04-2006, 07:04 PM
I am having a clunk noise when i am turning slow or going slow at work (gravel dirt mix cement plant) I have talked to my dealership but it took them 40 days to pay off my trade so i am rather pissed at them. I know i can have them do it but if they dont fix it then what take it back.. also the DS door hits the DS front fender and is making the paint chip they say i hit somthing.. hrmm noticed it when i bought the car with 150 miles on the car and told them right then... but i hit somthing must have been when i test drove it with the salesman in the car and we got in a 20 car pile up (dripping with sarcasm). I just dont know how to handle all this I have had it with this dealership.. i am going to picket line them on the weekend while they have my car... DONT BUY A CAR FROM MEDVED!

CobaltSSilver
05-04-2006, 10:43 PM
I just found out that my front spoiler is being warranteed, but like all things on the Cobalt it is back ordered. Allegedly, won't be in until next week.

Well that seems to be better than the 3-6 weeks out like it has been on a couple of the parts I needed.

steddy2112
05-14-2006, 01:45 AM
Yeah of course, get rid of the Jeep, and get the SS.
Then the sunroof button breaks, and i have what sounds to be a new intake whine. Don't get me wrong, the intake whine would be cool if it was supercharged...BUT ITS NOT!!!!!

Bastards...they best fix it, and they best gimme a rental to beat the piss out of.

jokieman
05-14-2006, 10:56 PM
Anyone else notice if the Speedo and Tachometer like to jump around when the car is off and you fiddle with the stereo?

Also, How about when you turn on the heater and switch it to blow on your feet, does the air come out down there or what? On our car it blows through the window defogger and "barely" comes out at the feet at all.


I've never had a vehicle that had the air coming out of the window vents when you put it on the foot only option, so i'm guessing it's not normal, or is a design quirk. :P

And yeah, I've got the rattling antenna issue when going over bumps, I thought it was just a cheap antenna design thing, guess I'll have to check it out in the morning and see if it's loose.

Landonelf
05-15-2006, 04:40 PM
hey jokie man, i have noticed the tach jumping while fiddling with the stereo. But mine only did it while the emergency brake was engaged. It also did it while i tried to drive off........ without taking the parking brake off..........DOH

jokieman
05-15-2006, 06:26 PM
hey jokie man, i have noticed the tach jumping while fiddling with the stereo. But mine only did it while the emergency brake was engaged. It also did it while i tried to drive off........ without taking the parking brake off..........DOH

Yeah I spoke to my father in law today, he's got an Impala SS S/C, and his does the same thing with the speedometer now and again. Weird.

CobaltSSilver
05-16-2006, 12:29 AM
I know that the RPM's can hang on a boosted car, and that is just the nature of it.

blakester
08-03-2006, 07:37 PM
my cobalt is awsome but i still had to replace the driver side head light because of condensation. My steering collum makes a rataling noise when going up or down my friends stone driveway, and my break light randomly goes on. Another problem is when going around sharp bends my breaks lock and willl not allow my slow down. Ha, listen to this my friend also has a cobalt and its a year newer then mine and he can start my car with his key to his car, and he can also drive away in my car using his key. Now thats messed up.

rpbarr
09-06-2006, 07:17 PM
One major Danger I experienced! The Nut on the main gas feed to the injector rail (left hand side engine top) loosened and poored several gallons of fuel on my engine (supercharged 2.0). It was rainig like crazy and that was the only thing that probably saved my because I was driving on the highway when it happened. Dealer repalced line and gasket and the black pads that insolate the engine nosie and vibration from hood. They also steam cleaned the enigne, this happened around 3000 miles -it was last year have over 15000 miles on it now a year later and no more problems.

My other bitch is paint chipping on complete car and the $775 rims...going to paint it next year and replace all rims.

xravenwingsx
09-06-2006, 07:52 PM
my cobalt is awsome but i still had to replace the driver side head light because of condensation. My steering collum makes a rataling noise when going up or down my friends stone driveway, and my break light randomly goes on. Another problem is when going around sharp bends my breaks lock and willl not allow my slow down. Ha, listen to this my friend also has a cobalt and its a year newer then mine and he can start my car with his key to his car, and he can also drive away in my car using his key. Now thats messed up.

anyone else you know having the condensation probs? ever since i had my dealer install my halos, i can hardly keep condensation out of those things. even WITH a seal of silicone. think it's a problem with the rubber grommets/seals?

Future SS
10-15-2006, 10:52 AM
I didnt bother to read all th post so im gonna ask have nay of you had a problem with the aoutolights not coming on i mean i cant see my gauges at night and my rear brake lights arent on this is the 3rd time im taking it in to service for the same problem any help would be greatly appreciated. Plus they keep on telling on me the fuse gets blown i told them to look for a short.

suprchged
10-16-2006, 07:53 PM
My injector fuse blew and my fuel pump went out at 6000 miles, it wasnt a good situation

CobaltSSilver
10-17-2006, 02:08 AM
My injector fuse blew and my fuel pump went out at 6000 miles, it wasnt a good situation

Wow! That's a tough hand to draw on a new car. Sorry to hear that. I hope they remedy it for you ASAP.

suprchged
10-17-2006, 01:44 PM
Wow! That's a tough hand to draw on a new car. Sorry to hear that. I hope they remedy it for you ASAP. I got it fixed, a short in the wiring to the fuel pump caused the whole ordeal. But you dont expect that to happen. On a newer car like that.

CobaltSSilver
10-18-2006, 10:48 AM
I understand man. I've had more issues with my car then I expected from GM. Hopefully you won't have anymore and they give you good service if you do. I had a very bad service experience a year ago and they couldn't get parts/tore up my car while it was being worked on. A bunch of careless assholes at the dealership I purchased from. I've never been back to them. I hope you don't have the same issue with the dealer that I had with Luby Chevrolet in Denver.

Show Off
10-19-2006, 03:36 AM
my new list at 21000:
driver side door wont open
rear driver side door clunks when opening from the outside
the speedometer needle sounds like its going 400 rpms at times
brake rotors warped
the paint is cheap at chips/scrathes way to easy


i wish i had a easy button.

suprchged
10-19-2006, 02:59 PM
my new list at 21000:
driver side door wont open
rear driver side door clunks when opening from the outside
the speedometer needle sounds like its going 400 rpms at times
brake rotors warped
the paint is cheap at chips/scrathes way to easy


i wish i had a easy button.
I had a problem with the brakes they said if it persisted they would outfit me with vette brakes.:)

Show Off
10-19-2006, 03:52 PM
damn, wish my dealer would do that for me

CobaltSSilver
10-19-2006, 04:43 PM
my new list at 21000:
driver side door wont open
rear driver side door clunks when opening from the outside
the speedometer needle sounds like its going 400 rpms at times
brake rotors warped
the paint is cheap at chips/scrathes way to easy


i wish i had a easy button.

That sucks man! What trim of cobalt do you own?

CobaltSSilver
10-19-2006, 04:50 PM
Never mind I went to you cardomain pics and see you have the 2.2.

It still suxs man, I'm sorry that you are having lots of issues.

My car for now is running well. I almost want to put big money into it getting Eibach sway bars, Eibach springs, Corsa exhaust, zzp header, zzp downpipe, jba rotors and ebc greeniepads, but I'm afraid the min I do all of that I'll have things go wrong again.

Leafaholic
11-15-2006, 08:39 AM
Are there any problems with the 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS's? I am about to buy one!

JohnsRallyYellowSS
11-15-2006, 10:52 AM
^^ only problem so far is they dont have a stage 2 kit computer reflash yet.

Show Off
11-15-2006, 01:56 PM
hey while i see the thread back up.
all my issues where fixed except the rims and the lug nuts.
ill have to take care of them myself.
not that it really matters, but if you have a neo gen and ya run over a nail- the corresponding side of the tire likes to blow out. and they cost about 170.00 ea.

CobaltSSilver
11-15-2006, 04:19 PM
Are there any problems with the 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS's? I am about to buy one!

Probably still too few of them out there to know for sure how it will go with the 07 model. I would wager that it SHOULD be better since it will be the 3rd model year of making them, but who knows.

suprchged
11-16-2006, 07:38 PM
Probably still too few of them out there to know for sure how it will go with the 07 model. I would wager that it SHOULD be better since it will be the 3rd model year of making them, but who knows.

yeah right dude the whol wheel problem rotr being warped i looked at my local dealership's new o7 and it has a whopping 18 miles on it and you can see grooves in the rotors from one test drive!!

CobaltSSilver
11-16-2006, 09:29 PM
yeah right dude the whol wheel problem rotr being warped i looked at my local dealership's new o7 and it has a whopping 18 miles on it and you can see grooves in the rotors from one test drive!!

Not sure what your beef is with what I said, but the word should in this sense means just that should, not it will be or have to be but 'should' be based on history for GM and other manufacturers with new model/redesigned cars. I would say that IF *this means that your story may or may not be true* your story is true then one test drive must have been pretty rough. Keep in mind for the first few hundred miles you should go easy on the brakes to let them bed in, albeit I can't see the rotors warping from one test drive, but the pads COULD *note that his means it might not it will ;-)* have their life shortened ect..

I haven't had problems with my brakes *knock on wood* but I only have 10500 miles on my 2006 SS/SC and I don't ride the brakes hard.

jonsstockrocket
11-17-2006, 12:41 AM
get aftermarket rotors
will fix vibration

HeppyCat
11-17-2006, 06:20 AM
ive got 18k miles on my 06. don't really ride the brakes and they are extremely grooved

Show Off
11-17-2006, 08:52 AM
yea. there is a major issue with them. all they did was resurface mine :(

Future SS
11-17-2006, 12:15 PM
Im gonna have tocall GMAC to see if they will give me back 3 months of payments for the car and insurance plus the xm for the total amt of time the car has been in the shop

Show Off
11-17-2006, 02:48 PM
they wont. there a money hungry us based greedy ass company run by gm....

CobaltSSilver
11-17-2006, 03:22 PM
Future.....give it a shot. I got 1 month of payments for the fact GM could not produce a replacement part for my ABS. The ABS light came on in my car 1000 miles into it's life and it took them 6 weeks to get the part and for the dealer to fix damage to the vehicle while in their possession.

HeppyCat
11-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Future, I got all of that when mine was in the shop for 2 months waiting on a fuel pump

Future SS
11-17-2006, 06:34 PM
I will try it but this is the overall time i have had to take it in then pick up take it back again and so on the dealer i take it to is gonna give me the history report and total amount of time it has been in the shop and for which repairs they actually gave me the idea and are helping me out. I even thought about the lemon clause and they told me to use that as my card in case i am having problems with that. The good news is if i do use the lemon clause and ask for a replacement vehicle and win they will be forced to give me an 07 with all the same options as my 05 and for the same price i still owe on my 05 and i found out they hate that so they would probably be more willing just to give me the 3 months im asking for anyway i know its gonna be a struggle but i dont care i still have the car.

suprchged
11-17-2006, 09:38 PM
Not sure what your beef is with what I said, but the word should in this sense means just that should, not it will be or have to be but 'should' be based on history for GM and other manufacturers with new model/redesigned cars. I would say that IF *this means that your story may or may not be true* your story is true then one test drive must have been pretty rough. Keep in mind for the first few hundred miles you should go easy on the brakes to let them bed in, albeit I can't see the rotors warping from one test drive, but the pads COULD *note that his means it might not it will ;-)* have their life shortened ect..

I haven't had problems with my brakes *knock on wood* but I only have 10500 miles on my 2006 SS/SC and I don't ride the brakes hard.
i dont either and i have major grooving problems almost to the point of warping i would say. they vibrate and i had them turned at 3000k thats not good brake life even if you drove it like you stole it everyday.

Harley
11-18-2006, 03:29 AM
yeah right dude the whol wheel problem rotr being warped i looked at my local dealership's new o7 and it has a whopping 18 miles on it and you can see grooves in the rotors from one test drive!!

Grooves are bad?? It means the pads are doing their job. Euro spec pads actually grind away the rotor quite significantly over time. No need to get it resurfaced or turned. Now, warping is a problem, but don't whine about grooves.

suprchged
11-19-2006, 09:17 AM
get aftermarket rotors
will fix vibration

what type of rotor do you have i looked at some at adcvanced auto and they would cost me about 170ish to buy both is that a good price or not i cant remember the name but they were the best they had.

jonsstockrocket
11-19-2006, 11:01 AM
they are pretty expensive even for me
i paid 50.00 a piece at wholesale for mine
sol after markups that sounds right
i did a service at 30000 miles and now have 40k no vibs at decel at 100 and rotors do NOT have ripples in them

suprchged
11-19-2006, 11:40 AM
they are pretty expensive even for me
i paid 50.00 a piece at wholesale for mine
sol after markups that sounds right
i did a service at 30000 miles and now have 40k no vibs at decel at 100 and rotors do NOT have ripples in them
who makes your rotors

jonsstockrocket
11-19-2006, 11:56 AM
ill have to call monday i cant remember
i get them from a parts supplier at work
ill pm you monday

suprchged
11-19-2006, 12:23 PM
ill have to call monday i cant remember
i get them from a parts supplier at work
ill pm you monday
great wish i got wholesale prices

jonsstockrocket
11-19-2006, 12:38 PM
where do you live? suprchgd

iso
11-20-2006, 10:07 AM
i paid 300 for a set of 4 powerslots. just for reference.

suprchged
11-20-2006, 08:21 PM
ill have to call monday i cant remember
i get them from a parts supplier at work
ill pm you monday
get any info

jonsstockrocket
11-20-2006, 09:00 PM
they were pro brake rotors

CobaltSSilver
11-21-2006, 10:37 AM
i paid 300 for a set of 4 powerslots. just for reference.

You still have your cobalt? I thought you were dumping out of it.

How were your rotors before you replaced then and the pad life? How many miles?