Had some fun with a new Charger R/T Daytona (HEMI) tonight.

He tried getting in front of me before three lanes merged into two - was denied. He caught up at the next light and asked what I had in 'er, said it sounded sweet. I complimented his car and told him "2.0 litre, 205 horsepower, supercharged" and asked what he had. He said "350 horsepower 5.7 litre". When the light went green I had nearly the perfect launch (have been practicing) except with the cooler weather (excuse) I was surprised to hit the rev limiter (first time). Even with that I still beat him by about half a car length to the top of second gear. At that point we ran into traffic and shutdown. He caught up later and said "That car's got balls!".

Right then I realized I had made the best decision in buying an SS S/C. Nothing is better than beating a V8 (HEMI at that!). If I had a V8, all I could do is be on defense against F/I four bangers - I prefer offense.

unless you would have went with a General Motors V8(I.E. Later f-bodies, GTOs), then you would have very much been on the offensive ;)

If you can find one...try racing an SRT-8!

Hey cool man any 4 banger that can do that deserves to wear a ss badge any day

I think he would beat the srt-8, my friend has a 99 mustang GT and his bother has a 2002 srt-8 and the mustang can beat it no problem.

I think he would beat the srt-8, my friend has a 99 mustang GT and his bother has a 2002 srt-8 and the mustang can beat it no problem.
02 SRT-8 what?? I think he was talking about the SRT-8 version of the Charger (which I don't believe is out yet) or the SRT-8 version of the 300C, which are a few years newer than 02. :rolleyes:

ahhhh, i though he was talking about the Ram SRT-8

ram srt-8???????? :confused:

SRT-8 is availble in the 300C Model, the Magnum, and the soon to be Charger... according to C&D, i believe they got a 13.2 on the 1/4 mile out of the SRT-8, but not sure in which model car... though i think that Motor Sport Weekly did a 13.3 out of the Magnum

Preliminary performance for the 300C SRT-8 are 0-60 mph in the low 5-second range; quarter-mile time in the high 13-second range; and 0-100-0 in the mid-16 second range. The SRT-8 is due in Spring 2005, and will retain the 425 horsepower specification

Chrysler was probably quite surprised by the sales rate of the Hemi in the Magnum - 43% of buyers demanded the Hemi, and it may well be that if there were more of the hot engines available, the rate would be even higher. The SRT-8 version was almost inevitable, then - providing 425 horsepower from 6.1 liters, complete with 71.6 square feet of cargo space, the Dodge Magnum SRT-8 can run the quarter mile in under 14 seconds, or carry a 27-inch TV.
Performance numbers for the all-new 2006 Dodge Magnum SRT8 include a 0-60 mph time in the low 5-second range and 60-0 mph braking in approximately 110 feet. Capable of covering a quarter-mile in the high 13-second range, the Dodge Magnum SRT8 can accomplish SRT’s signature performance test of 0-100-0 mph in the mid 16-second range.

I was referring to the Charger SRT-8 which is very very difficult to find!! They are not alloted to the dealership, you must have a buyer who is ordering one, and you still have to wait in line for that. We've never gotten our hands on a Charger, Magnum, or 300C SRT-8 but we do have a Viper SRT-10 Copperhead Addition (only 300 made), 3 crossfire SRT-6's and two Ram SRT-10's. And we eagerly await the release of the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8.

F.Y.I The Ram version of an SRT is the Dodge SRT-10 both in Quad Cab and Regular Cab. Completely useless trucks in my opinion, but of course I don't say that to the customer I am trying to sell them to.

Completely useless trucks in my opinion, but of course I don't say that to the customer I am trying to sell them to.

Nothing with a Viper motor in it is COMPLETELY useless ;)

Nothing with a Viper motor in it is COMPLETELY useless ;)
Agreed....

Nothing with a Viper motor in it is COMPLETELY useless ;)

also agreed

$60k, 500hp, and still stuck in the 13s...

9 miles to the gallon, no towing capacity (except for quad cab), and 50k plus. Maybe "completely" was an overstatement, but its really just a big toy for someone with a big wallet.

If you can find one...try racing an SRT-8!

Without Stage 2 - which the wait is killing me - I think the only SRT we have a chance with is a stock SRT-4. And I think our 'chance' is that the SRT-4 driver isn't average or better.

The only SRT I've ever encountered was a Stage 1 SRT-4. It wasn't a race, it was more he was in front of me trying to get away - which he did. By the time we reached 200km/h he had to be at least 3-5 car lengths ahead of me and pulling. That's not to say he gained 3-5 lengths as when we started he was 1-2 ahead (I wasn't tailgating).

Like I said, I haven't even seen an SRT-6,8, or 10 on the streets, but by magazine racing I must concede that each one would walk an SS S/C.

That being said however, I strongly feel that with Stage 2, the SS S/C will be a real contender. And I wouldn't be too surprised if we could at least hang with if not edge out a charger SRT-8.

Had some fun with a new Charger R/T Daytona (HEMI) tonight.

Right then I realized I had made the best decision in buying an SS S/C. Nothing is better than beating a V8 (HEMI at that!). If I had a V8, all I could do is be on defense against F/I four bangers - I prefer offense.



You cant beat a hemi with a stock SS S/C. Even modified is laughable but at least then it maybe possible if you were pushing 277HP. Nice story but I dont buy it.

You cant beat a hemi with a stock SS S/C. Even modified is laughable but at least then it maybe possible if you were pushing 277HP. Nice story but I dont buy it.
ummm the chargers are pushing 4,000 lbs curb weight around. That extra power advantage gets sapped up real fast when theres an extra 1100 lbs of car to move. There close enough in performance to go either way.

ummm the chargers are pushing 4,000 lbs curb weight around. That extra power advantage gets sapped up real fast when theres an extra 1100 lbs of car to move. There close enough in performance to go either way.

Magnum rt hemi with A/T is comparable performance. it is not horsepower or weight you have to consider. it is what a car can do in real life. R&T numbers for the magnum R/T hemi with a/t, as of 11-04, was 6.1 0-60, and 14.6 1/4 mile. AWD magnum r/t hemi A/T goes even better and would beat an ss s/c.

But I have to admit. these two opponents are alot closer in performance then I originally thought.

Real world numbers are what im going with and the SS and hemi LX cars are real close. The LX cars are huge boats compared to the 2991 LBS Cobalt, think of it this way, they have an extra 1/2 ton of weight comparably. The Cobalt can run mid-low 14s, the same as the hemi LX cars. Don't be a troll and accept that the HP/LBS argument works and that the hemi's power is sucked away by all that extra weight.

Magnum rt hemi with A/T is comparable performance. it is not horsepower or weight you have to consider. it is what a car can do in real life. R&T numbers for the magnum R/T hemi with a/t, as of 11-04, was 6.1 0-60, and 14.6 1/4 mile. AWD magnum r/t hemi A/T goes even better and would beat an ss s/c.

But I have to admit. these two opponents are alot closer in performance then I originally thought.
You don't have to add that you're talking about that A/T, because there are no manuals.

Its always funny to hear a cobalt owner saying "well a stage 2 ss would hang with it" can you tell me exactly what a stage 2 ss dyno's at? or are we magazine racing again? not only magazine racing, but imaginary magazine racing which is worse lol

i call bs !

i call bs !

i don't... i "raced" an r/t charger last night on my way to school on the highway. i say "raced" because i walked it so bad, i can hardly say it was a race. don't get me wrong, they're awesome cars, i was looking into getting a charger r/t, but i hate autos and sedans, so it was pretty much out.

i don't... i "raced" an r/t charger last night on my way to school on the highway. don't get me wrong, they're awesome cars

So you know what it's like :)

To be honest, I was expected to get walked. I bet the other guy would have bet that he was going to teach me a lesson - no replacement for displacement.

When I actually beat him I was probably as surprised as he was. It was nice that he was cool about it and complimented my car. I thanked him and returned the compliment - it's all about good sportsmanship out there!

It wasn't until I got home and read up on the stats for the Charger R/T Daytona (not magnum) that I realized how evenly matched our cars were. I wonder if he did the same.

The one thing I can say about that car is it sounded AWESOME! When that big dog barks, it really barks - It was scary.

I work across the Street from THE CHRYSLER tech center. the r/t's are dog's. But If you run into an SRT they will clean up...

Ohhh and I was also smoked by the new Grand cherokee SRT....I am all stock(06) except for a B& M shifter.

If you can find one...try racing an SRT-8!

I worked for Chrysler & have been on test runs with SRT models.
Any SRT-8 will eat up a Cobalt SS, a ION RL & even a slightly modded SRT.
I have a SRT4, & have driven 300SRT8 & MagnumSRT8. A stage 2 SRT can keep up - barely, a SS or RL can not.
Even the SRT6 will eat a SS or RL, not to even mention the RAMSRT10.
I am not blowing smoke, I have driven them all one a race course & against timed lights & unless you have a HIGHLY modded SS or RL, you are not even keeping up - let's be real.
SRT6 - ¼ mile mid to high 13s
SRT4 - ¼ mile high 13's to lo 14s
300SRT8 - ¼ mile lo 13's
MagnumSRT8 - ¼ mile lo to mid 13's
RL/SS - ¼ mile 14's to lo 15's
:eek:

I worked for Chrysler & have been on test runs with SRT models.
Any SRT-8 will eat up a Cobalt SS, a ION RL & even a slightly modded SRT.
I have a SRT4, & have driven 300SRT8 & MagnumSRT8. A stage 2 SRT can keep up - barely, a SS or RL can not.
Even the SRT6 will eat a SS or RL, not to even mention the RAMSRT10.
I am not blowing smoke, I have driven them all one a race course & against timed lights & unless you have a HIGHLY modded SS or RL, you are not even keeping up - let's be real.
:eek:

No one said the CSS could hang with an SRT (aside from the 4), just that the Charger RT is a good race. The SRTs are near 40K at their cheapest..hardly a fair price comparison.

No one said the CSS could hang with an SRT (aside from the 4), just that the Charger RT is a good race. The SRTs are near 40K at their cheapest..hardly a fair price comparison.

Oh I agree - I just saw someone suggested racing a CSS against a SRT8 - I wouldn't advise it unless the SS is modified & the SRT8 driver has no arms or legs. No offense to CSS owners, CSS = nice quick cars, but I have driven 300 & Magnum SRT8s on a race track & even the SRT6 & Ram SRT10 - they will surprise you. Plus, some 300 SRT8 owners are now supercharging their cars
:eek:
Some people have too much time & $ I guess

^^^^ agreed.

I still have really big doubt that the CS SS could beat an SRT-4 stock for stock but CS SS just CANNOT hang with any of the SRT-6, 8 and 10 models... it's just like saying SRT-4 maybe able to hang with the 2000 LS1 Camaro SS, it just won't stock.

^^^^ agreed.

I still have really big doubt that the CS SS could beat an SRT-4 stock for stock but CS SS just CANNOT hang with any of the SRT-6, 8 and 10 models... it's just like saying SRT-4 maybe able to hang with the 2000 LS1 Camaro SS, it just won't stock.

OMG who cares, its close enough to a SRT4 compared to a SRT6/8/10

^^^^ agreed.

I still have really big doubt that the CS SS could beat an SRT-4 stock for stock but CS SS just CANNOT hang with any of the SRT-6, 8 and 10 models... it's just like saying SRT-4 maybe able to hang with the 2000 LS1 Camaro SS, it just won't stock.

Mine is a little more than stock with the basics & the joker in the Camaro SS couldn't keep up from a 60MPH freeway romp. Although, my WS6 was pretty evil :D

This will shed some light on the Srt-4/ CSS, as to how the perform against each other
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0505_joysticks/index2.html

if you'll notice stock they are for the most part close to the same when it comes to performance.

if you'll notice stock they are for the most part close to the same when it comes to performance.


Could you explain to me why in that articale the SS takes 15.4 sec to get to 100 mph, but runs a 14.4 @ 99.3 mph? (does it take a full sec to go from 99.3-100)

And the srt some how only takes 13.8 sec to get to 100, but runs 14.4 @ 100.8 mph?

I see stuff like that alot, and it just doesn't make sense to me.

this has been discussed previously. motortrend did not actually test these on a 1/4 mile track its all based off of computer predictions

I never heard that, I just thought this was a decent article and since there is so much dispute between the two cars on this forum, it seemed like something that may hav shed a lil light on the subject. I have no real prefence towards either car, well i guess i do a little bit i did buy a SS but i also looked at both cars. I went with the SS mainly becuz i did'nt want a 4 door. Not becuz i had any False notion that it was faster than the SRT-4. But lets underestimate the SS or downplay it , Both Cars are impressive machines. And in respect to either cars performance they are not that far off from each other.... Thats all i really wanted to show.

Ohhh and I was also smoked by the new Grand cherokee SRT....I am all stock(06) except for a B& M shifter.

the grand cherokee srt-8 posts the best 0-60 and quarter mile times out of any of the srt vehicles (except the viper of course) thanks, i believe, mostly becuase of the awd.

For those still in doubt, Saturday I will make a movie of me in my SS/SC racing my bro in law in his R/T, stock for stock it was dead even, front to front w/ me hittign rev limiter in 1st, just to show those still doubting, i will make a movie, plus he'll be helping me install my K&N that morning so it wont take so long, so you'll get a good racing movie and see and here wut the K&N is about

That should be an awesome vid looking forward to seein it! :D

that's just what i needed bro, a vid.i got some dudes hatin on the cobalt SS/SC sayin it cant hang with V8s :mad: . they said it has a wack ass 6psi supercharger and a V8 would kill it. Please show these foos the light wit this video. itll knock the haters senseless.
holla :D

Had some fun with a new Charger R/T Daytona (HEMI) tonight.

He tried getting in front of me before three lanes merged into two - was denied. He caught up at the next light and asked what I had in 'er, said it sounded sweet. I complimented his car and told him "2.0 litre, 205 horsepower, supercharged" and asked what he had. He said "350 horsepower 5.7 litre". When the light went green I had nearly the perfect launch (have been practicing) except with the cooler weather (excuse) I was surprised to hit the rev limiter (first time). Even with that I still beat him by about half a car length to the top of second gear. At that point we ran into traffic and shutdown. He caught up later and said "That car's got balls!".

Right then I realized I had made the best decision in buying an SS S/C. Nothing is better than beating a V8 (HEMI at that!). If I had a V8, all I could do is be on defense against F/I four bangers - I prefer offense.

The Hemi's are a joke. They have highway gearing and a 2.87 final drive. I think they can almost hit 60 in 1st.

Now the SRT8's will do 13 flat at almost 110mph