Anybody know the GMS pricing on the SS/SC? Any info would be appreciated.

On a Cobalt SS with an MSRP of $23,810 the factory invoice amount is $22,584.23 and the GMS (GM Employee) price is $21,613.20

The only catch is going to be finding a dealer who will authorize a GMS sale for you while the car is hot.

Just wondrin..where'd you get your info from? somebody else has told me 19,400..and my parents bought a Pontiac Grand Prix GT before where the MSRP was like 26000 and they got it for 19000...seems like GMS price would be lower then 21,613 on the SS

In US GMS is 19,4... cause I bought one, thats what it came to

Just wondrin..where'd you get your info from? somebody else has told me 19,400..and my parents bought a Pontiac Grand Prix GT before where the MSRP was like 26000 and they got it for 19000...seems like GMS price would be lower then 21,613 on the SS


FYI, got GMS right off the factory invoice via GMDealerWorld, a copy of an actual invoice is something that anybody who actually qualifies for GMS pricing can get from almost any GM dealer.
Hey though, if you kids can buy SS's for $19,400 then what are doing asking what GMS is in the first place?
$20K is GMS on a Cobalt SS with no options, but it really doesn't matter right now because there isn't a dealer in the U.S who will let one go for GMS until they start getting built, there have been less than 25 SS's shipped to dealers so far.

I also recall that the old Grand Prix's had rather large rebates on them for the past several years, even still $5-6K off MSRP (after rebate) was typical GMS pricing structure on Grand Prix's (not $7K), rebates are not even a factor with this new Cobalt SS and the mark-up is not as high on this car as with the pricier Pontiac cousin.

Sorry I tried to answer your question with some facts, I'll know better next time.

In US GMS is 19,4... cause I bought one, thats what it came to

Post the last 8 digits of the VIN # of the SS that you (supposedly) bought and I'll prove that you didn't buy it for $19,400!

Sorry I tried to answer your question with some facts, I'll know better next time.
Im not tryin to make enemies or anything man, calm down. I had just heard two different numbers and was wondering where the info came from. Thank you for clearing that up though.

Post the last 8 digits of the VIN # of the SS that you (supposedly) bought and I'll prove that you didn't buy it for $19,400!

HMMMMMMMMM I am looking at my receipt for my down payment and, MY GMS PRICE, If i had a VIN (NOT VIN #!!, there is not two Numbers # as you put it if you know what VIN means) and i would not be on this site right now I would be driving my SS, which should be in about month and a half or two. On GM Family site on web they have all GMS pricing for all cars, check there to, if you can get it, gotta have GM family member, DUH. 19,4... plus tax and tags, haha believe it or not, I GOT IT ON PAPER BUDDY! what now

Yeah they will be giving out GMS right now it doesn't cost the Dealership any money. :rollseyes:

on a side note I swear I posted in this forum about 2 Cobalts SS's that are on Dealerships right now that I got off of GMDealerWorld and I can't seem to find it. I am just wondering why it would get deleted if it did.

2005 Chevrolet Cobalt

2005 MODEL YEAR VEHICLE PRICE SCHEDULE
EFFECTIVE WITH START OF 2005 MODEL YEAR PRODUCTION

Base Model Prices
Model Model Description List
Price Factory
D/H(b) MSRP(c) Employee
Price (c) DFC
1AK37 Cobalt 2-Door Coupe $13,625.00 $0.00 $13,625.00 $12,405.63 $565.00
1AK69 Cobalt 4-Door Sedan $13,625.00 $0.00 $13,625.00 $12,405.63 $565.00
1AL37 Cobalt 2-Door LS Coupe $15,920.00 $0.00 $15,920.00 $14,482.60 $565.00
1AL69 Cobalt 4-Door LS Sedan $15,920.00 $0.00 $15,920.00 $14,482.60 $565.00
1AZ69 Cobalt 2-Door LT Sedan $18,195.00 $0.00 $18,195.00 $16,541.48 $565.00
1AP37 Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe $21,430.00 $0.00 $21,430.00 $19,469.15 $565.00
Option Packages
Option
code Description List
Price Factory
D/H(b) MSRP(c) Employee/ Price(c)
1SA Cobalt Base Equipment Group $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
1SB Cobalt LS Sport Package $595.00 $0.00 $595.00 $517.65
1SY Cobalt LS Sport Package $445.00 $0.00 $445.00 $387.15
Additional Options
Option
Code Description List
Price Factory
D/H(b) MSRP(c) Employee/ Price(c)
Air Bags:
ASF Airbags, Head Curtain $395.00 $0.00 $395.00 $343.65
Ashtray and Lighter
DT4 Ashtray and Lighter $15.00 $0.00 $15.00 $13.05
Brakes:
JM4 Anti-Lock Brake System $400.00 $0.00 $400.00 $348.00
Cargo Net:
AP9 Cargo Area Convenience Net $45.00 $0.00 $45.00 $39.15
Cruise Control:
K34 Cruise Control $275.00 $0.00 $275.00 $239.25
Engine Block Heater:
K05 Engine Block Heater $35.00 $0.00 $35.00 $30.45
Floor Mats:
B34 Floor Mats - Front and Rear $80.00 $0.00 $80.00 $69.60
OnStar
UE1 OnStar System, Includes One Year Safe & Sound $695.00 $0.00 $695.00 $604.65
Performance Package:
G85 Performance Package $1,500.00 $0.00 $1,500.00 $1,305.00
Radio Equipment:
U2K XM Satellite Radio $325.00 $0.00 $325.00 $282.75
UN0 AM/FM Stereo w/CD $185.00 $0.00 $185.00 $160.95
UQ3 7 Speaker Pioneer Amplified Sound System $150.00 $0.00 $150.00 $130.50
US8 AM/FM Stereo w/CD and MP3 $150.00 $0.00 $150.00 $130.50
Remote Keyless Entry:
AU3 Remote Keyless Entry includes Power Door Locks w/1AK37 $370.00 $0.00 $370.00 $321.90
AU3 Remote Keyless Entry includes Power Door Locks w/1AK69 $410.00 $0.00 $410.00 $356.70
Seats:
AR9 Bucket Seats, Manual recline 1AL** &142/522/192 $695.00 $0.00 $695.00 $604.65
Spoiler:
T43 Rear Spoiler $275.00 $0.00 $275.00 $239.25
Steering Wheel:
¨ UK3 Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel w/Redundant Audio Controls $195.00 $0.00 $195.00 $169.65
Sun Roof:
CF5 Electric Sun Roof w/Map Lights $725.00 $0.00 $725.00 $630.75
Transmissions:
MX0 4-Speed Automatic $850.00 $0.00 $850.00 $739.50

johnkb8,
Even you just posted the correct GMS price of $19,469.15 + $565.00 for freight (DFC) ($20,034.15 total GMS price) and this is on a stripped Cobalt SS and you did this after telling everyone that I was full of shit……..hmmm.
Well I guess you would actually have to know the meaning of the figures that you copy and paste to know what you are talking about and it is clear that you do not.

Order #'s (is this correct?) will work for me then, but since you said that yoiu had actually bought one for GMS I thought that that is what you meant.

I qualify for GMS and would buy one off the lot in a second, which dealer is honoring GMS on SS's right now?

Dude i ordered a 2005 Cobalt SS Supercharged in Blue w/ Blue inserts, OK, i got it from a dealer outside Philly, i have had 3 dealers out here tell me i would get GMS on this car, OK, and i picked the dealer that i thought was lying the least to me about stuff. OK, I know what I am paying for it, thats all that matters, plus, and STRIPPED down SS, what the hell you talking about, only a couple options that really dont matter to me, the SS comes with everything you need STOCK, OK!! Guess i dont know figures too, huh, well i know the figure i am paying for my SS (seems you did not) , and i know the pricing of this car, anything else you got... I know everything and anything about this car including figures!, get it right

On a Cobalt SS with an MSRP of $23,810 the factory invoice amount is $22,584.23 and the GMS (GM Employee) price is $21,613.20

The only catch is going to be finding a dealer who will authorize a GMS sale for you while the car is hot.

thats what you posted, seems a little off dont you think now! OK now bye bye then

Dipstick,
So are you still saying that $19,400 is the price that you are paying for your Cobalt?

Surely the dealer provided you with an order #????

Your story just doesn't add up sorry, just stop your damn lying.

I am follow this thread GMS pricing, I am paying YES GMS pricing, HMMMMMMMMM yes off course i have to pay tax and tags and all that stuff, and thats adds on GMS pricing, anything else i am LYING about dipstick, I got a order number too, do you have one, huh huh, damn man, why you need my order number, i know what i am doing, we all see that you dont here, anything else dipstick, haha

On a Cobalt SS with an MSRP of $23,810 the factory invoice amount is $22,584.23 and the GMS (GM Employee) price is $21,613.20

The only catch is going to be finding a dealer who will authorize a GMS sale for you while the car is hot.

so whats this dipstick, and all this stuff about my stipped down SS, i didnt forget that, hmmmmmmmmm...............

so whats this dipstick, and all this stuff about my stipped down SS, i didnt forget that, hmmmmmmmmm...............

What's it look like? Do you need a translator?

Just so you know $20,034.15 is GMS on a base SS not "$19,400" as you claim to be paying, freight charge is factored right into GMS pricing and not a separate fee like tax and license.

Are you getting any of this? It will help you when you're old enough to actually buy a car assuming one of your family member’s works for GM that is.

On a Cobalt SS with an MSRP of $23,810 the factory invoice amount is $22,584.23 and the GMS (GM Employee) price is $21,613.20

The only catch is going to be finding a dealer who will authorize a GMS sale for you while the car is hot.

Yea i know GMS, cause I AM BUYING MY SS for GMS, and GMS on the car is 19,469.15, yes freight charge is 565, msrp does not include that, that why GMS is 19,469.15
1AP37 Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe $21,430.00 $0.00 $21,430.00 $19,469.15 $565.00
Now do you need a translator, you gotta think head

On a Cobalt SS with an MSRP of $23,810 the factory invoice amount is $22,584.23 and the GMS (GM Employee) price is $21,613.20

The only catch is going to be finding a dealer who will authorize a GMS sale for you while the car is hot.

Oh yea thats for adding the 2 up for a total price, least your good at math, haha, 21,430 MSRP, 19,469.15 GMS, PLUS 565, good job fellow, retard

Just wondrin..where'd you get your info from? somebody else has told me 19,400..and my parents bought a Pontiac Grand Prix GT before where the MSRP was like 26000 and they got it for 19000...seems like GMS price would be lower then 21,613 on the SS
They also had a rebate...Forget about GMS on an 05 SS.There is simply not enough around for a dealer to sell one GMS..

Guys, chill.

There is no need for the "dipstick" garbage. You boys don't need to get so violent.

I've found a lot of dealers in my area that sell for GMS..

I've found a lot of dealers in my area that sell for GMS..

It's easy to offer GMS for a car that you don't have and/or can't get; heck price is 100% academic if they don't have the car.

Right now there are 15 SS's (14-Red and 1-Black) built and sitting at 12 dealerships (some dealers have 2) in Pennsylvania, I have contacted every one of these dealers and not only would none of them let me have one for GMS but many wouldn’t even let me purchase one for MSRP.

There is a local dealer here that has offered me one for GMS but doesn’t know when he can actually get the car.

after just going to the GM Supplier discount site I got a price of $21,014.06 with NO options.... (I do work for a supplier)

Well..the dealers in my area get SS s/c cobalts by the end of this month.

Would you mind posting the name and phone number to a dealer that is getting an SS this month and will sell it for GMS?

That's crazy, I got my '05 Ion Redline for $18,000 and I have nothing to do with GM.

WOW!
$18,000 for a new 05 Ion Red Line, that is so unbelievable.

Would you mind posting the name and phone number to a dealer that is getting an SS this month and will sell it for GMS?

WM. L. MORRIS-SIMI
1001 COCHRAN ST
SIMI VALLEY , CA 93065 -1930
Phone: (805 ) 527-2372
Fax: (805 ) 581-9768

WM. L. MORRIS-SIMI
1001 COCHRAN ST
SIMI VALLEY , CA 93065 -1930
Phone: (805 ) 527-2372
Fax: (805 ) 581-9768

I just got off the phone with a manager named Lina at WM L
This dealership doesn't have an available allocation for an SS not to mention a code 3000 or better order in the system so don’t expect to see an SS on thier lot this month.

there are 10 SS's within 3000 miles of chicago (most of the use. 9 red, 1 blue. I just checked.

I'll be getting one for GMS when they come out and after i test drive the shit outta one. Pending i like it...i'llbe able to get it for around $19,900 w/ 1k off the price because i work for GM

Would you mind posting the name and phone number to a dealer that is getting an SS this month and will sell it for GMS?

hahaha...you wont get one for gms buddy. you've gotta have a card or work for GM...and even then (with the card) you'll have a hard time getting them to let go of them. its really up to the dealer whether they wanna accept it.

hahaha...you wont get one for gms buddy. you've gotta have a card or work for GM...and even then (with the card) you'll have a hard time getting them to let go of them. its really up to the dealer whether they wanna accept it.

My grandfather works at a plant in Texas for GM, i will get it for GMS..my local dealers have ok'd it already.

hahaha...you wont get one for gms buddy. you've gotta have a card or work for GM...and even then (with the card) you'll have a hard time getting them to let go of them. its really up to the dealer whether they wanna accept it.

Not a problem, I am employed by General Motors and I know all the in's-and-out's of the GMS plan.

I think that you need to brush up on the rules of the GMS program though partner as there is no so called "card" that allows a non-employee or family member to purchase on the GMS plan.

I do have a car secured on GMS (Order # HWWSVJ) from a dealer in Idaho (about 2 hours north of me) but it is code 3100 and probably 2-4 weeks away from hitting the ground, the factory appears to be having lots of ramp-up problems with the SS machines so it may take even longer.

Ive been reading this thread...its heated.lol
congrats on your purchase ZX1100F1..im not employed by GM or partnered with them...but my great uncle is a former vice chairman and he could probably get this car for free...lol although he probably wouldn't want this car ... i do :o

haha

Ive been reading this thread...its heated.lol
congrats on your purchase ZX1100F1..im not employed by GM or partnered with them...but my great uncle is a former vice chairman and he could probably get this car for free...lol although he probably wouldn't want this car ... i do :o

haha

Watch out, before he cries about you one-upping his ego.

Watch out, before he cries about you one-upping his ego.

Do you have any reading comprehension problems or do you just go around picking fights by making everyone else’s problem yours?

Not a problem, I am employed by General Motors and I know all the in's-and-out's of the GMS plan.

I think that you need to brush up on the rules of the GMS program though partner as there is no so called "card" that allows a non-employee or family member to purchase on the GMS plan.

I do have a car secured on GMS (Order # HWWSVJ) from a dealer in Idaho (about 2 hours north of me) but it is code 3100 and probably 2-4 weeks away from hitting the ground, the factory appears to be having lots of ramp-up problems with the SS machines so it may take even longer.


I have an order number and a VIN and my SS SC was supposed to arrive this week but my dealer told me that it's not even listed as in transit yet.

As for GMS I ordered mine back in Sept 2004 and I talked to my dealer about this price hiking BS (just recently) and they assured me I would be getting GMS pricing. I work for a GM Supplier and I am the son of a employee who has worked with the dealership for 20+ years. I have bought 5 cars from them. If you want to get the good deals you have to have the good relationships.

Also there are different levels of GMS depending on if your an employee or just work with a company that gets the GM Supplier Discount.

Also there are different levels of GMS depending on if your an employee or just work with a company that gets the GM Supplier Discount.

There is only one level of GMS period.

Then there is the GM Supplier Discount Program (which is a near invoice pricing program), these are two completely different programs.
And to be honest there are several other programs like In-The-Drive, Friends & Family and etc, but none are even close to GMS.
I appreciate your attempt to school me on this issue but at the same time I can't understand why some people are so quick to throw out loads of misinformation.

I have a fabulous relationship with a local dealer but if they don't have or can't get the car that don’t get me much now does it?

He wasnt trying to "school" you..he was just misinformed or whatever..chill man. You seem like you're hating on a lot of people. Nobody's out to get the best of you.

There is only one level of GMS period.

Then there is the GM Supplier Discount Program (which is a near invoice pricing program), these are two completely different programs.
And to be honest there are several other programs like In-The-Drive, Friends & Family and etc, but none are even close to GMS.
I appreciate your attempt to school me on this issue but at the same time I can't understand why some people are so quick to throw out loads of misinformation.

I have a fabulous relationship with a local dealer but if they don't have or can't get the car that don’t get me much now does it?


Sorry I mis-spoke. I meant to say there was GMS and GM Supplier Discount. And they are different discounts.

If you're really a GM employee like you claim, you reflect very poorly on your employeer. You are condescending and with members like this on the board why would I even want to take part in this forum, much nicer places to talk about the Cobalt on the Internet.

That's crazy, I got my '05 Ion Redline for $18,000 and I have nothing to do with GM.Like having something to do with GM makes us special, yeah right:rolleyes:
Sp00ner, the GM discount program is really an embarassment. Here's why I say this: My Red Line MSRP'd for $21,030 and the GMS price was $19,569. Here is the break down as posted on RedLineForums.com

$21,030 sticker
3,000 GM incentive
1,000 GM employee bonus (must be used by 9/04)
1,461 GM employee discount (GMS employee invoice, approx. 6.95% off MSRP)
1,000 GM/UAW retiree voucher (from my Mom in FL)
- 500 UAW Build America coupon ( cause I'm a dues paying member)
__________________
$ 14,069 plus tax and title
I also added the $1200 5/60 extended warranty for $600 (GM employee price)
So, the total was $14,669 with a total of $7561 off in discounts and incentives. MSRP = $21030, 5/60 warr. = $1200 Total List price= $22,230

Now for the moment, forget about the UAW & retiree vouchers, they were flukes that normally are not there for employees. Also the $1000 Sept bonus, throw it out cause any other month, it wouldn't have existed. After 9/30/04, GM wasn't offering $2500 of my discounts to me. Let's just go with the normal employee discount that you'd get 90% of the time when buying a car GMS.

My discounted price of available current GM incentive and GMS discount is $16,569 - $4461 off MSRP


Add in Cleveland Plain Dealer the week after I buy my RL has my dealer offering the following on a new '04 ION Red Line:
Sticker $21,030
Current GM incentive $ 3,000
Saturn "Bonus Bucks" $ 1,000
Saturn dealer voucher checks $ 750
$16,280 + taxes & title
That means Joe Blow non-employee can buy the car for $289 LESS than me if I use the GMS program.

[rant on]
I get pissed and march in there saying that they mistakenly ommitted discounts that I should have received according to the ad in the paper. Finance lady pulls out a 3-ring binder & flips to the sheet showing Oct '04 discount programs and points where the disclaimer clearly states that the Saturn bonus bucks and dealer assisted voucher checks ARE NOT allowed to be combined with employee GMS pricing OR GM supplier discount pricing. A big F-YOU to GM. If it weren't for the extra bonus that were a fluke at that point in time, a non-employee off the street could buy the RL cheaper than I could. That is why I say our discount system sucks. Then there are the CHEVY commercials that I heard in August, "Come on in this weekend and buy a chevy for GMS pricing. Yes, that's right, come on in and buy a car for the same price as a GM employee!!!!!" Oh yeah, that's great! Just give any ol' Joe Blow my discount. Makes my Shit kinda weak. [/rant off]

There is only one level of GMS period.

Then there is the GM Supplier Discount Program (which is a near invoice pricing program), these are two completely different programs.
And to be honest there are several other programs like In-The-Drive, Friends & Family and etc, but none are even close to GMS.
I appreciate your attempt to school me on this issue but at the same time I can't understand why some people are so quick to throw out loads of misinformation.

I have a fabulous relationship with a local dealer but if they don't have or can't get the car that don’t get me much now does it?
You Sir, are correct. Only one GMS price. This is what the GM corporate workers get on the vehicle. Everyone else gets the supplier discount if you have an association with GM and are on their approved supplier list.(roughly 1/2 of what ever the GMS discount is on any particular vehicle) Dealership workers get the supplier discount 'cause they do not directly work for GM. According to the prices that I have seen, Family First and
"In the Driveway" programs are supplier prices.

I have an order number and a VIN and my SS SC was supposed to arrive this week but my dealer told me that it's not even listed as in transit yet.

As for GMS I ordered mine back in Sept 2004 and I talked to my dealer about this price hiking BS (just recently) and they assured me I would be getting GMS pricing. I work for a GM Supplier and I am the son of a employee who has worked with the dealership for 20+ years. I have bought 5 cars from them. If you want to get the good deals you have to have the good relationships.

Also there are different levels of GMS depending on if your an employee or just work with a company that gets the GM Supplier Discount.This part puzzles me. From what has been explained to me, you shouldn't qualify for GMS either way. As a supplier employee, you wouldn't get GMS price and Dad/Mom shouldn't get GMS for being a dealership employee.

I know that in conversation at the time my salesman had me signing papers, he lamented that he could not get the employee discount that I could being a factory worker. Dealership = less%

Wow you guys think what you want. I honestly don't know the exact discounts NAME I am sick of defending myself. You guys all rule and are super smart and get better discounts than me.

I go into my dealer, and I trust them to get me the best price they can. They have always done a good job for me and I happy to not have to dicker with some other dealer. Hell I even driver almost 500 miles to do business there (I don't live near home anymore)


Thanx for making me feel welcome.

:rolleyes:

Wow you guys think what you want. I honestly don't know the exact discounts NAME I am sick of defending myself. You guys all rule and are super smart and get better discounts than me.

I go into my dealer, and I trust them to get me the best price they can. They have always done a good job for me and I happy to not have to dicker with some other dealer. Hell I even driver almost 500 miles to do business there (I don't live near home anymore)


Thanx for making me feel welcome.

:rolleyes:No intention of making you feel bad or claiming superiority. I was just trying to affirm the info in another post concerning GM discounts. I see quite a bit of mis-info on the various forums. I feel for your frustration, but as you stated above, you aren't EXACTLY sure of your discounts name. I would then say not to call it by GMS (or any other name) but just a plain ol' GM Discount. It really doesn't matter as long as you can get some kind of a discount - that's the real meat & potatos! I would hope you can see the confusion that is started by various people quoting discount prices and maybe not getting the right name for them, then other people who got a different discount price with that same name and wondering if they got screwed. Some of us that have been with GM a long time and have used & seen all the various programs come and go and are just trying to HELP out with correct info.


I work for Parma Metal Center (factory job) and get GMS. My wife used to be a loan officer for GMAC Mortgage (which is the moneymaker for GM) and she only got the supplier discount, as do GMAC Auto & GMAC Real Estate (supplier %) the GMS discount is not an exact fixed rate and varies from Vehicle platform to platform, high to low price. I was looking at an '04 GTO that the GMS discount was real close to 10% off MSRP, my ION RL was only 6.98% off MSRP. Supplier discount is almost exatly 1/2 of the GMS discount. As a side note, while she was with GMACM, she had the approved supplier list for all of Ohio, and GM dealerships are given the supplier discount. In fact, she had an owner of a dealership in Fremont Ohio that was pissed that he only got the same discount that his auto techs got. Now, we're talking home loan rates here, but the supplier list for home mortgages is the same as the one for auto loans and new car purchases.

HTH

John

Dealership workers get the supplier discount 'cause they do not directly work for GM.

Not that I really care because this thread is pointless, most everyone who qualifies for GMS or Supplier will know their particular program details but this is wrong.
GM dealership employees (of 6 months or longer) receive GMS pricing.

But thanks anyhow for schooling me some more, I do appreciate it.

:rolleyes:

Not that I really care because this thread is pointless, most everyone who qualifies for GMS or Supplier will know their particular program details but this is wrong.
GM dealership employees (of 6 months or longer) receive GMS pricing.

But thanks anyhow for schooling me some more, I do appreciate it.

:rolleyes:
OK, then answer me this, last October why did a salesman who said he was a 14 year employee tell me that he only got the supplier discount, not he one that I was getting. I do know that in 2002, the GMACM list showed dealers as suppliers and supplier discounts. My responses are based on that info, if that has changed, I am not aware of it.

OK, then answer me this, last October why did a salesman who said he was a 14 year employee tell me that he only got the supplier discount, not he one that I was getting.


He either was mistaken, misspoke or lied.

One other thing though; is that GM Dealership Employees get GMS price plans (on up to 2 vehicles per year) but their family members do not (except during rare promotions).

Where as actual GM employees immediate family members can receive GMS pricing under the GM Family First program, each GM employee receives 6 certificates per year plus additional certificates for friends or family called GM In the Driveway (GMID for short) which allows these people to purchase most new GM vehicles at GM Supplier pricing which is typically near invoice while GMS pricing is usually near invoice after the 3% holdback.

He either was mistaken, misspoke or lied.

One other thing though; is that GM Dealership Employees get GMS price plans (on up to 2 vehicles per year) but their family members do not (except during rare promotions).

Where as actual GM employees immediate family members can receive GMS pricing under the GM Family First program, each GM employee receives 6 certificates per year plus additional certificates for friends or family called GM In the Driveway (GMID for short) which allows these people to purchase most new GM vehicles at GM Supplier pricing which is typically near invoice while GMS pricing is usually near invoice after the 3% holdback.Caught a salesman at a Cleveland dealership tonight and found out a few things that have been tossed around in this thread. First, they sold the black Coballt SS two days after it came in. They were no prepared for it to move that fast. They want more but can't get any at the moment. They have a "ton" of 4 door sedans on the lot and they are not moving at all. They only have eight 2-door coupes and interest in them is "OK", but everyone is stopping and asking for the SS, just like I did.

I asked him point blank if they would honor my GMS discount plan on this car and he said absolutly, why not. I replied that there is a lot of conjecture on the internet that dealers will hold off selling to a GMS eligible employee and instead get a higher price from the general public. He laughed and called that just plain stupid. It is first come, first served, if your credit comes back in the green, it's the first one with the cash/financing no matter what the final sales price is. There is no way, he said, he would pass up selling me one "in hopes" someone else would come on in after me and pay more. They are in the business to make a sale to who ever comes through the door in the order they come with the first available way to pay for the vehicle.

ZX1100F1, in talking about my GMS discount he relayed that he gets that price too, so I quized him more. He said he can't remember when, but in recent times, they bumped up the discount for them from the suppliers discount to GMS pricing. I wonder if Saturn holds the discount back for their dealershhip employees to supplier? After all, the Saturn GMS discount percentage was the lowest of all the GM divisions that I was looking at. "They're a different kind of car company" ...stingy!:D So, given that, I'll stand corrected on my info.

And I'll also stand corrected on my earlier comment that dealers will not honor GMS on the SS's due to the fact that I was able (with a great deal of effort) to secure an inbound car (for my 19 year old son) from an Idaho dealer at GMS and apparently many other dealers are also willing to accept GMS on these fine machines, although the dealers who will honor GMS but don’t have or can’t get the car still don’t count in my book.
I wonder if anybody on this forum has actually walked onto a lot and purchased a new Cobalt SS at GMS pricing and drove it home?

I'll have to read up on GM’s Saturn Division Employee Purchase Program, I've never had an inkling to buy a Saturn so I haven't ever checked it out.

no offense and this is totally my opinion but i think the ion redline is more hidieous than the kia rio station wagon.

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cobalt ss is way nicer...even tho it sorta looks like it has down syndrome in the front I would buy it if I had a way too! haha.

mazda 6 it is for 5 more year.lol

Man- I'm considering a 9-2x Aero. Down here in the DF dub they have a$5,000 factory rebate on them right now. I also get a supplier discount and depending on how desperate the dealers are to get rid of them I may try to get them lower.
I know, I know the 9-2x is a glorified WRX but it is so much better looking than the REX.

Do you have any reading comprehension problems or do you just go around picking fights by making everyone else’s problem yours?

Actually, I came in, offered a price that I had got on my GM car, not being involved with GM in anyway, and you straight up insult me with your bullshit attitude and you attempts at subject line humor. All I thought is that you were about the buy a car for alot more money then you should have. I was, in all honesty, trying to make a constructive suggestion about what a fair price was. Maybe if you weren't such a jack-ass you wouldn't have people jumping all over you, as it seems they are now. What is it that demonstrated my reading issues? Or do you just have an intelligence issue? I wasn't aware that this was a fight, but since you let me in on that, it is now. Expect me to be in every discussion with you, doing nothing other than insulting you and telling you that you're wrong! Welcome to the forum...

Actually, I came in, offered a price that I had got on my GM car, not being involved with GM in anyway, and you straight up insult me with your bullshit attitude and you attempts at subject line humor. All I thought is that you were about the buy a car for alot more money then you should have. I was, in all honesty, trying to make a constructive suggestion about what a fair price was. Maybe if you weren't such a jack-ass you wouldn't have people jumping all over you, as it seems they are now. What is it that demonstrated my reading issues? Or do you just have an intelligence issue? I wasn't aware that this was a fight, but since you let me in on that, it is now. Expect me to be in every discussion with you, doing nothing other than insulting you and telling you that you're wrong! Welcome to the forum...

Ok i am not the only one, lol, thanks, i think i was the first one to go after him for being a retard (ZX1100F1), i wont be the last either, i with ya spooner, ZX1100F1 whats up now! got any wrong info for me!

Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends... la la la la laaaa
Na Na Na Na Naa-aa Na Na Naa Na Naa.
Sorry couldn't help myself...

Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends... la la la la laaaa
Na Na Na Na Naa-aa Na Na Naa Na Naa.
Sorry couldn't help myself...

LOL :)
Yeah i know that is why i asked the same question awile ago in another thread.

Is it just me or does it seem that there are a lot of arguments lately?...
Though it does seem to be that things are gettin better though.

You Sir, are correct. Only one GMS price. This is what the GM corporate workers get on the vehicle. Everyone else gets the supplier discount if you have an association with GM and are on their approved supplier list.(roughly 1/2 of what ever the GMS discount is on any particular vehicle) Dealership workers get the supplier discount 'cause they do not directly work for GM. According to the prices that I have seen, Family First and
"In the Driveway" programs are supplier prices.
Old skool, Your wrong I'm a sales consultant at a Chevy dealership and we get GMS so do GMAC employees..My dealership would not let any of us have an SS at GMS until they are plentiful..

All I thought is that you were about the buy a car for alot more money then you should have. I was, in all honesty, trying to make a constructive suggestion about what a fair price was.

Let me guess, you offered a price on an SS that was way below GMS and the dealer jumped all over it and now you’re driving your new Cobalt SS all over town with a big stupid grin on your face?

Yeah, this is some real bullshit I can do something with alright.

Let me guess, you offered a price on an SS that was way below GMS and the dealer jumped all over it and now you’re driving your new Cobalt SS all over town with a big stupid grin on your face?

Yeah, this is some real bullshit I can do something with alright.

Nope, just told ya my price. I didn't even understand what GMS was. You could have just explained to me what it was, that it was different than I was used to dealing with, so my price couldn't help you. Instead you were a dick, and now I'm on you like stink on shit pal...

I'm on you like stink on shit pal...
Ha Ha... I like that phrase... sorry...

I'm all over you like a fat kid on cake...ok sorry I'm leavin for real now...

Old skool, Your wrong I'm a sales consultant at a Chevy dealership and we get GMS so do GMAC employees..My dealership would not let any of us have an SS at GMS until they are plentiful..If you would read ALL of the posts in the thread, I had ammended my position on the discounts. My info is/was based on 2002 lists that my wife had while at GMACM and what a Saturn dealer told me last Sept. Things change all the time with GM and some of my info was outdated.

And as far as your dealer goes, two things come to mind. 1) He is a poor businessman. 2) must have his ass in $$ trouble trying to squeeze a few more pennies out of a sale that isn't even guaranteed. ( You Will buy an SS, he prefers to take a chance that someone MIGHT come in and buy one in a timely fashion.)

I didn't even understand what GMS was.

You said it schlong taster.

You said it schlong taster.

You're right there are many things that I 'don't know nothing about'... duh..

ZX1100F1 knows all, he is the greatest, he knows about all our orders, please the manager of GM BuyPower must be treated as a king on these forums......fukin loser

If you would read ALL of the posts in the thread, I had ammended my position on the discounts. My info is/was based on 2002 lists that my wife had while at GMACM and what a Saturn dealer told me last Sept. Things change all the time with GM and some of my info was outdated.

And as far as your dealer goes, two things come to mind. 1) He is a poor businessman. 2) must have his ass in $$ trouble trying to squeeze a few more pennies out of a sale that isn't even guaranteed. ( You Will buy an SS, he prefers to take a chance that someone MIGHT come in and buy one in a timely fashion.)
The first two we have coming are spoken for..If you read my post it said when they are more plentiful. You really dont know the business at all. You really are in no position to tell me what works and doesnt. I looked at your past post. I cant believe I'm going back and forth with a guy who cites his source as a salesman in Ohio and who quotes facts and figures from a three year old list.

The first two we have coming are spoken for..If you read my post it said when they are more plentiful. You really dont know the business at all. You really are in no position to tell me what works and doesnt. I looked at your past post. I cant believe I'm going back and forth with a guy who cites his source as a salesman in Ohio and who quotes facts and figures from a three year old list.
Whatever

Our dealers around here sell to anyone first come first served GMS discount included. We'll be drivin' while you're still dreamin'.

The list might be old, but the Chevy dealer sold a black Cobalt SS a week ago and if I want the next one he told me to come in and get credit checked and we're good to go. GMS discount. I guess your dealer sucks... Cleveland Rocks... again.

Whatever

Our dealers around here sell to anyone first come first served GMS discount included. We'll be drivin' while you're still dreamin'.

The list might be old, but the Chevy dealer sold a black Cobalt SS a week ago and if I want the next one he told me to come in and get credit checked and we're good to go. GMS discount. I guess your dealer sucks... Cleveland Rocks... again.
I just noticed you a contributing user to this site.You post misinformation. Your involved in arguing and name calling? Does not do much for the credibility of this site.All I have to say to you is grow up.

ZX1100F1 knows all, he is the greatest, he knows about all our orders, please the manager of GM BuyPower must be treated as a king on these forums......I'm a fukin loser

And don't you forget it.

ZX1100F1 knows all, he is the greatest, he knows about all our orders, please the manager of GM BuyPower must be treated as a king on these forums......fukin loser

Sarcasm is lost on idiots... particuarly ones that don't not get things...

Sarcasm is lost on idiots... particuarly ones that don't not get things...



:) :) very true thanks

Its fun to watch you two ding-dongs make retarded comments and pat each others back.
You two homos should get a room.

got a room already man!!!!!!!!!! come on ...... your mom didnt tell ya she was coming to see me :eek:

got a room already man!!!!!!!!!! come on ...... your mom didnt tell ya she was coming to see me :eek:

And you think that the jokes on me? Wait till she arrives.

And you think that the jokes on me? Wait till she arrives.

ya might not care, but that was good, speechless (she just arrived) ;) later back to talking about SS

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In April they are going to have a drive away with more red cobalt SS's at Citizens Bank Park In Philadelphia..If anyone is interested in one of them call me at 215 579 1100.....Stan Esposito @ Stockburger Chevrolet. Reserve it now!! It is up for grabs right now.. sesposito@stockburger.com

Its fun to watch you two ding-dongs make retarded comments and pat each others back.
You two homos should get a room.

I'm glad you enjoy it, you caused the whole thing, and it will continue as long as your name pops up in the posts.

I'm glad you enjoy it, you caused the whole thing, and it will continue as long as your name pops up in the posts.

Then we're in for the duration, a couple of little snot nosed dweebs don't bother me, especially when one of you retarded morons is bragging about doing my mom who's been dead for over 20 years.

Then we're in for the duration, a couple of little snot nosed dweebs don't bother me, especially when one of you retarded morons is bragging about doing my mom who's been dead for over 20 years.

i was just try to calm the fighting down, but whatever, i think spooner and i have our reasons prob. others also, or this wouldnt be going on with you on this site, right...

i was just try to calm the fighting down, but whatever, i think spooner and i have our reasons prob. others also, or this wouldnt be going on with you on this site, right...


Yeah, I know what you mean; I always try to "calm the fighting down" by posting that I'm going to screw someone’s mom.
Makes perfect sense to me idiot.:rolleyes:

Inbreeds like you I'd just as soon go the rounds with.

yea, ok, you still a retard and your info and "facts" are out of this world, keep it up, i keep reading your shit and laughing at it

yea, ok, you still a retard and your info and "facts" are out of this world, keep it up, i keep reading your shit and laughing at it


I keep trying to read your shit but you type like you're illiterate.
What grade are you in?