Here is some images. Follow the link in the Member's gallery on another forum ...

- Custom 2,5" catback with Magnaflow muffler
- Pulley Technology 3,0" pulley
- Cold Fusion Nitrous Wet Kit (uninstalled)
- Fujita Competition Cold Air Intake System (uninstalled)
- SCdyne Header (uninstalled)

http://www.*************/gallery/browseimages.php?c=3&userid=2736

Installation of the CAI and Header (and dyno results) will be this very friday.

Have a nice day !

Good pics, have you gotten any cel's with any of it yet?

Hey jmc007 does it matter how you install that pulley? I thought is was suppost to go on the other way. I have not done mine yet and don't want to mess it up. Just curious.... :D

Good pics, have you gotten any cel's with any of it yet?
I had no CEL yet with a catback and the pulley. I will see if I will get any CEL with the CAI and header tomorrow.

Hey jmc007 does it matter how you install that pulley? I thought is was suppost to go on the other way. I have not done mine yet and don't want to mess it up. Just curious.... :D
Yeah it does matter, when the new pulley is mounted on the supercharger's shaft, the pulley must be aligned with the belt. If you put it the wrong side, you will see the pulley won't be in the same axis than the belt.

300BHP... that is around 270-280ish Whp?

can't wait to see dyno numbers and track times from that beast.

Thats cool and all, but whats the point with nitrous. Any 'ol ricer could go out and put on a big enough shot to get 300hp. Try and do it without nitrous, that'll be a real accomplishment.

300 hp is good power no matter how you make it. With a limited aftermarket at this point nos is probably the way to go.

We need to convince him to try a 125 shot so there will be a ss with over 300 whp. Add slick and run low 12's.

300 BHP is roughly 255 to 265 WHP on a Dynojet ...

Nitrous kit sold today. I am waiting to do serious mods after the winter.

300 hp is good power no matter how you make it. With a limited aftermarket at this point nos is probably the way to go.

We need to convince him to try a 125 shot so there will be a ss with over 300 whp. Add slick and run low 12's.It doesnt matter how you make it? yes it does. first what is the car being built up for? just drag racing then ok you can go nitrous but that is all it is good for. either it is "on" full throttle or "off". not very usable making fast corners with power on. you need to be able to modulate the power better to be smooth for grand prix or autocross course. just food for thought.

check out the article part 1 of a 4 part series from GM performance. attached is the adobe file of the build for a 300HP++ ecotec 2.0L.

http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/

go to performance articles under the "Performance Pulse" tab

So far you need pistons, valve springs, and Cams to start.

It is a real eye opener as far as how good the pistons are. I would not want to go beyond 270hp with stock pistons to be safe. just my take on it.

I was looking around on the net and found a company that makes a turbo kit that bolts on with the super charger and makes 300+HP. :D

I was looking around on the net and found a company that makes a turbo kit that bolts on with the super charger and makes 300+HP. :D
Who and where!?

does that company think that it is safe to go beyond 300hp with stock pistons? GM Performance does not think so. I would like to talk to people who have gone 300hp++ and see whether the pistons have been standing up for them.

I was looking around on the net and found a company that makes a turbo kit that bolts on with the super charger and makes 300+HP. :D


i would like to see this too, since gravana said the abs and fuseblock needed to be relocated to the passenger's side to make the twincharge setup work

Who and where!?

does that company think that it is safe to go beyond 300hp with stock pistons? GM Performance does not think so. I would like to talk to people who have gone 300hp++ and see whether the pistons have been standing up for them.
LOL if that is indeed true, thats reason enough to not buy this car in the first place. If youre not making 300bhp these days youre basically behind everyone else. Hell you need that much just to keep up with a stock LS1, and who keeps their cars stock nowadays!
It could be a ploy by GM to try and juice more money out of you guys, but if the bottom end really isnt good for more than 300bhp then this car is basically useless. Who wants to drop 22k on a car only to need to drop another 1k+, PLUS all the labor, for a solid 400hp bottom end?

I thought Gravana dropped the idea altogether?!?!

LOL if that is indeed true, thats reason enough to not buy this car in the first place. If youre not making 300bhp these days youre basically behind everyone else. Hell you need that much just to keep up with a stock LS1, and who keeps their cars stock nowadays!
It could be a ploy by GM to try and juice more money out of you guys, but if the bottom end really isnt good for more than 300bhp then this car is basically useless. Who wants to drop 22k on a car only to need to drop another 1k+, PLUS all the labor, for a solid 400hp bottom end?

yea cause 22k plus 1k maybe 2k for a built bottom end is way too much money for those results :rolleyes:

So far you need pistons, valve springs, and Cams to start.

It is a real eye opener as far as how good the pistons are. I would not want to go beyond 270hp with stock pistons to be safe. just my take on it.
this is dissaapointing. :(

I really would have thought gm would have better prepped the ecotec for
the s/c and beyond, but it looks like they cut as many corners as possible
during design.

yea cause 22k plus 1k maybe 2k for a built bottom end is way too much money for those results :rolleyes:
Considering what you can do with an SRT4 without even taking off a valve cover, or even a Civic for alot cheaper and alot less labor, it IS alot of money for those results. As far as Im concerned, the SC/SS is a failure so far to "keep up" with the rest of the sport compact crowd. Let alone keeping up with real muscle cars on the street like the SRT4 can atleast do relatively easily.
But hey, I guess some people wanna be "different" :confused:

It doesnt matter how you make it? yes it does. first what is the car being built up for? just drag racing then ok you can go nitrous but that is all it is good for. either it is "on" full throttle or "off". not very usable making fast corners with power on. you need to be able to modulate the power better to be smooth for grand prix or autocross course. just food for thought.

check out the article part 1 of a 4 part series from GM performance. attached is the adobe file of the build for a 300HP++ ecotec 2.0L.

http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/

go to performance articles under the "Performance Pulse" tab

So far you need pistons, valve springs, and Cams to start.

It is a real eye opener as far as how good the pistons are. I would not want to go beyond 270hp with stock pistons to be safe. just my take on it.


No one has mentioned in this thread what the car was being used for. If he really is going to use it for road racing, then your right.

My point was it was posted that using nitrous to make power isn't a acomplishment at all. And I feel that is completly wrong. It bugs me when people say "bottle's are for babies" and shit like that. And I don't even run nitrous.

And I'm not totally sold on the hole GM says 300 hp thing yet. Do you think dodge would say that you can make over 400 whp pn pump gas reliably on a stock srt-4 motor. No they wont, say that. Does that mean it can't be done? No because alot of people are doing it.

"Let alone keeping up with real muscle cars on the street like the SRT4 can atleast do relatively easily."

Real muscle car...the SRT4? :confused:
I know they are cool but "muscle"???

I thought muscle cars died with the gas crisis of the 70s

Go over to the srt forums, do a search for threads started in the vidoe section by 4U2NV. He beat some very fast cars on a little 50 trim, and now he's running a 60-1 I think.

There's a recent vid of him racing a 528 rwhp pro charge z06. It's a very close race, the vette won by a car length. That's muscle in my book. I think 4u2nv said it would probably be closer if he could hook up. I think the race was from a 60 mph roll, and he was on drag raidials w/o traction.

Oh and he's running a stock long block. this is just bolt on's really, lots of people have done it. He just has some really good vids of it.

Considering what you can do with an SRT4 without even taking off a valve cover, or even a Civic for alot cheaper and alot less labor, it IS alot of money for those results. As far as Im concerned, the SC/SS is a failure so far to "keep up" with the rest of the sport compact crowd. Let alone keeping up with real muscle cars on the street like the SRT4 can atleast do relatively easily.
But hey, I guess some people wanna be "different" :confused:

so if the ss is a failure and you dont get why anyone would buy one i got a question for you. what are you here?

"Let alone keeping up with real muscle cars on the street like the SRT4 can atleast do relatively easily."

Real muscle car...the SRT4? :confused:
I know they are cool but "muscle"???
I never called the SRT4 a real muscle car. I said it can keep up with real muscle cars ;) I dont care how fast any SRT4 is, it should NEVER be considered a muscle car. EVER. PERIOD. Nor should any other FWD anything, sport compact or not.
And Rocky, I dont own one. Im just here for laughs.

the SS/SC had everything I wanted for the right price. That's why I bought it. Now if it comes down to practically building a car, I'll get my hands on a 240Z and drop a 350 in it. My cobalt is not for tinkering, testing, and blowing out clutches. It is a nice, speedy daily driver. Besides, I really don't like tickets. I'll leave the race car at the track.

I'll get my hands on a 240Z and drop a 350 in it.

now that's a cool set up. I'm considering doing that myself. Although I'm leaning toward something else that will be easier. And still very fast.