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: The race for the 10's is over


orange juice
02-12-2006, 11:30 AM
This is to all who said a SRT can't make it to the 10's.

NRGY/S3R SRT4
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=B2418C82-2889-4E88-9E76-F0909E475DB5

:D

dvs
02-12-2006, 11:37 AM
hot dang that is fast as shit. good job and do you know what that guy is putting down as far as HP and mods?

05_Blue_B10WN_SS
02-12-2006, 11:42 AM
I've seen that car before up close (or at least i think it is). Its bad ass. He swapped an auto into it with a stall + Big turbo + Diet. Its a nice setup.

For post below,
How can you say i don't have a clue of what im talking about? I may not be refering to this car, but there is a highly modded srt-4 with an auto tranny in it thats fast as hell.. really close to 10s.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 11:47 AM
hot dang that is fast as shit. good job and do you know what that guy is putting down as far as HP and mods?

He was spraying a 50 shot then. 75 shot granted slwer times due to traction. We need shops not to build us anymore go fast parts but rather see what it going on with our cars traction issues and how to address the problem correctly to counter it.

As fas as how much power..414/490 with no bottle to give you an idea :cool: .

His mods:
S3R (HOM not used)
NRGY Block
NRGY race head with crane 14's and modified AEM gears.
AGP CAI
AGP S3R WGA
AGP UHP w/ SSQ
AGP Direct Fit Intercooler.
Maxxfab DP to Borla Exhaust (yes this was done on a 2.5" exhaust)
Devils own water/meth injection
Clutchmasters Stage 3
n2o kit
750cc injectors
D-Tec

Its the rest of the little things that make a big difference.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 11:48 AM
I've seen that car before up close. Its bad ass. He swapped an auto into it with a stall + Big turbo + Diet. Its a nice setup

You have no idea what your talking about.

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 11:54 AM
whoever said an srt4 couldn't do 10 's ? Any car can run 10's if you put enough work into it. My question is how many times will it turn in that number without being completely rebuilt.

blab10
02-12-2006, 12:37 PM
1stbluSS - Take that shit out of here, delete your last response and take it to PM's. You are ruining a perfectly good thread. Those were definitely some fucked up things he wrote about your sister BUT please take it out of here.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 01:31 PM
whoever said an srt4 couldn't do 10 's ? Any car can run 10's if you put enough work into it. My question is how many times will it turn in that number without being completely rebuilt.

Rebuilt? Dude, that is a NRGY block with NRGY head components. That motor is buil;t tougher than you realize. Surely your also not trying to say the SRT is unreliable. There are quite a few SRTs out there with over 100k of boosted worry-free miles.

Lots of people on automotive forums have talked down on SRTs for not hitting 10s yet. You must be out of the loop I guess.

You and evil can take your argueing selfs in PMs. Get that BS out of my thread.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 01:33 PM
1stbluSS - Take that shit out of here, delete your last response and take it to PM's. You are ruining a perfectly good thread. Those were definitely some fucked up things he wrote about your sister BUT please take it out of here.

Yes PLEASE take that shit out of my perfectly fine thread. Why in the hell did you bring that shit in here in the first palce?

Butch Sosa
02-12-2006, 01:35 PM
wow Those are some great runs.

and really you guys dont need to be fighting on allt the threads. dont involve us with your problems.

clevelander2002
02-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Rebuilt? Dude, that is a NRGY block with NRGY head components. That motor is buil;t tougher than you realize. Surely your also not trying to say the SRT is unreliable. There are quite a few SRTs out there with over 100k of boosted worry-free miles.

Lots of people on automotive forums have talked down on SRTs for not hitting 10s yet. You must be out of the loop I guess.

You and evil can take your argueing selfs in PMs. Get that BS out of my thread.

I thought SRT-4s were in the 10's a long time ago already :confused: There is a woman LITTLEMT on the RL forums that is running 500+hp/500+tq. She has a lot of money in both her srts and her pt gt and shes in the low 10's. We havent heard from her in a while though. I'll have to go find some pics of her cars.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 01:37 PM
I thought SRT-4s were in the 10's a long time ago already :confused: There is a woman LITTLEMT on the RL forums that is running 500+hp/500+tq. She has a lot of money in both her srts and her pt gt and shes in the low 10's. We havent heard from her in a while though. I'll have to go find some pics of her cars.

There are no SRTs in the 10s that I know of other than this one. We have had a forum specifically for people going into the 10s and this is the first 100% streetable SRT in the 10s.

Your talking about Lucille and she hasn't hit a 10 in her SRT....yet

clevelander2002
02-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Yea i havent heard from her in a while but yea I did a little research and she was still in the 11's. I liked this thread though...http://www.redlineforums.com/forums/off-topic-discussion/5984-my-quest-600hp-600ft-tq.html?highlight=littlemt

Nocturn
02-12-2006, 01:55 PM
So its using a aftermarket block and heads?

CobaltGuy
02-12-2006, 02:18 PM
So its using a aftermarket block and heads?

If so, thats not really "an SRT-4", but anyways any car can make it in the 10's. i bet that car isnt street legal either or his everyday driver. Why have a car run 10's if you can drive it everyday or on the street?? JMO

CoBIZZLE
02-12-2006, 02:21 PM
Sorry bout the disturbance guys, its been taken care of...

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 04:14 PM
Cobizzle Thanks For Getting Rid Of The Posts. I Only Wanted Them To Stay For A Short Time. There Was A Reason I Put Them All Out Here. Sorry Everyone Had To Deal With It.

Notsosane
02-12-2006, 04:37 PM
I just think it's impressive that it's so consistent.. If you can only do it once, what good is it? Great job

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 05:04 PM
10's are impressive no matter what.....

orange juice
02-12-2006, 05:25 PM
If so, thats not really "an SRT-4", but anyways any car can make it in the 10's. i bet that car isnt street legal either or his everyday driver. Why have a car run 10's if you can drive it everyday or on the street?? JMO

The car is 100% streetable.

The car is a SRT4 no matter which way you slice your bread.

Some of you act like this is your first car EVER and have never or been introduced to how things go down at the track and what it takes to get to what your looking for. With your logic I guess upgrading internals on a stock block to be more reliable when your hitting 400+hp makes it not a SRT4 motor either huh? :rolleyes:

I was simply agreeing with you that the srt4 is very capable of 10's but just like other srt4 guys you get all pissed if anyone questions anything about your car. Like I told blab it is just a neon it is not a ferrari stop being so sensitive. Our cars have flaws too and I dont get all pissy about it.

Where do you think I'm pissed at you. The only thing you did that pissed me off wasn't even related to the thread. Its when you brought your BS into my thread and shit on it. I never said my car is a fucking Ferrari. IWhy would you even say I think that way? I'm not some egotistical caveman who lives in a world of dreams. If you think that way of me, then you've got me all wrong.

Get off your soapbox drama before I have you banned for trying to stir the pot with board members. I'm not going to play merry-go-round games with you.

orange juice
02-12-2006, 05:42 PM
Im trying to stir the pot by agreeing about a car ? I am totally confused. If I was banned it wouldn't be the end of my life. Sorry dude you tell me how I should feel about everything and then I will tell it exactly the way you would like that way you can hear and read exactly what you want. A lot of people know me in here and maybe 1 - 2 people dont like me. If you want to jump in that boat go right ahead looks like there is room :). I didnt shit on your thread what I was doing is more important than any of us. If some guy told you in pm that he would like to rape your handicapped child would you sit by and say nothing ? If so shame on you. Back to the thread. Again I am simply stating that 10's to me werent out of the question. I am also stating fact. Fact is that motor will be to be rebuilt almost all track star cars do. There is nothing wrong with that seeings how that is the norm. Sorry dude before I reply I will ask you if you like what I say first..... I know sarcasm doesn't come through on type but that is as thick as I can get....

By stirring the pot I meant by the way you were trying to talk to me. Like I'm some kid by your attitude you had. You know...the whole you think I think my car is a Ferrari comment or that I was one of the "discrunteled SRT4 owners". To me, that was trying to stir the pot.

Not my problem if that guy PM'd you talking shit. Sure it was wrong for what he said but did I deserve my thread to be shit on with the whole ordeal? I think not. Here's an idea for next time he does it...how about PM him back instead of bringing it into my thread in the first place.

Glad we're clear on this. Leave it at that and if you have anything else off topic related to say to me, just PM me. Lets not sidetrack this anyomre than you already have previously... :cool:

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 05:48 PM
I am also hoping the stg2 kit + 2.9 in pulley and my current mods can get me there.

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 05:54 PM
I am going to fix a few things.....

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 05:56 PM
there we go I cleaned up this thread.....

blab10
02-12-2006, 06:54 PM
By stirring the pot I meant by the way you were trying to talk to me. Like I'm some kid by your attitude you had. You know...the whole you think I think my car is a Ferrari comment or that I was one of the "discrunteled SRT4 owners". To me, that was trying to stir the pot.

Not my problem if that guy PM'd you talking shit. Sure it was wrong for what he said but did I deserve my thread to be shit on with the whole ordeal? I think not. Here's an idea for next time he does it...how about PM him back instead of bringing it into my thread in the first place.

Glad we're clear on this. Leave it at that and if you have anything else off topic related to say to me, just PM me. Lets not sidetrack this anyomre than you already have previously... :cool:
Don't let him get to you man, I have gotten into it with him in a few other threads and he has a major chip on his shoulder. He always brings up the "your car isn't a Ferrari" or "you think your car is the fastest/best ever" even though I never say anything like that. Oh well, that's the internet for you I guess.

Nocturn
02-12-2006, 07:32 PM
Its still an SRT4 but its slightly less of an achievment using a aftermarket block internals and head, basically not much of the original engine left at that point.

1stBluSS
02-12-2006, 07:40 PM
too me it doesnt matter if much of the original engine remains. Guys get praised for sticking corvette engines in trucks and turning 10's so what is the difference. Really I mean you have truck engines in cars and car engines in trucks. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to get a car into that time frame. Blab dude dont take stuff so seriously. I probably compliment your car more than most ss/sc owners. I personally love the srt4 but the cobalt and the srt4 are what they are.

DomesticAz123
02-12-2006, 10:39 PM
yeah im defianately gonna have to say no matter if its the same engine it came with or not if ur turning 10's then thats a demand for respect it takes alot of hard work time and of course MONEY to run consistant 10's theres a girl i know of out here whos been on the brink of breaking 10 for about 2 months now but i guess she got beat to it

tofu
02-13-2006, 12:51 AM
Congrats to you guys, all my SRT-4 buddies were talking about it lol. Word spreads like wildfire.

EndZz
02-13-2006, 04:37 AM
That thing is soo cool Orange juice that guy looked pretty consisten with his runs what was the best time of them all it look like one of the numbers was missing on the second run. I thought this was about the Cobalt hitting 10's I couldn't believe it. So noother SRT-4 has hit 10's since it came out in 03 right?

TwinCharged
02-13-2006, 07:37 AM
Awesome job!!!! Now it is a race for the 9s ;)

orange juice
02-13-2006, 07:49 AM
Awesome job!!!! Now it is a race for the 9s ;)
I heard that. Though these companies are gonna need to chill on go-fast parts now and start helping find the solution to tame these traction woes some more :D

endzz, yup this is the first 100% streetable SRT4 that has hit 10's and has the proof of it.

TwinCharged
02-13-2006, 09:06 AM
I heard that. Though these companies are gonna need to chill on go-fast parts now and start helping find the solution to tame these traction woes some more :D

endzz, yup this is the first 100% streetable SRT4 that has hit 10's and has the proof of it.
Well hopefully I will have mine in the low 10s high 9s. I just got the motor back together with a new crank trigger and better/lighter pistons. Last year our crank trigger was havoc on us because it sat on the crank snout and it was not keyed in any way. Between rounds it would move slightly and change our timing on us. This time we have a modified factory trigger that is bolted to the crank and will not move. I a, dead set on getting this car into the 9s this year.

chevycobaltowner
02-13-2006, 01:29 PM
^^^^ Twincharged what did your car run in the quarter mile previously. What was the best tim you ran??

TwinCharged
02-13-2006, 01:45 PM
^^^^ Twincharged what did your car run in the quarter mile previously. What was the best tim you ran??
11.0 @134mph. The car kept breaking up above 5k rpms. It revs to 8500. We made 600chp at 5500rpms breaking up.

orange juice
02-13-2006, 03:42 PM
You talking about the psi-fi car or your cobalt?

03gobluecobra
02-13-2006, 03:54 PM
I believe he is talking about the SRT-4.

CJ Thunder
02-13-2006, 04:59 PM
The car is 100% streetable.

The car is a SRT4 no matter which way you slice your bread.

Some of you act like this is your first car EVER and have never or been introduced to how things go down at the track and what it takes to get to what your looking for. With your logic I guess upgrading internals on a stock block to be more reliable when your hitting 400+hp makes it not a SRT4 motor either huh? :rolleyes:




It is fast, it is nice, it is great...but I personally don't like the body style and will have to Wait for this to be done to the caliber...

ANWAY, I think that if you mod it it no longer what it was. Like all the classic SSs that are being rebuilt now. Its worth more if its the original, its worth more if nothing has been done to it.

Z06 still looks like a corvette, same general style. But what makes the car what it is?

Chassis?
Style?
Engine?

On top of that who cares what its name is damn, why do people get so offended when you call an srt-4 a neon?

SoFlaSS
02-13-2006, 07:15 PM
An SRT-4 is still just a Neon but a GT500 is not just a Mustang.
HAHA I love this... and it's true too.

blab10
02-13-2006, 09:31 PM
HAHA I love this... and it's true too.
It is actually far from the truth. The SRT-4 is to Neon as GT500 is to Mustang. Same general concept, just an upgraded, top of the line version of the base car. I don't get mad when people call my car a Neon either, it IS a Neon. There is probably just as many parts on the GT500 from the base Mustang as there is parts on the SRT-4 from the base Neon.

orange juice
02-14-2006, 08:14 AM
It is fast, it is nice, it is great...but I personally don't like the body style and will have to Wait for this to be done to the caliber...

ANWAY, I think that if you mod it it no longer what it was. Like all the classic SSs that are being rebuilt now. Its worth more if its the original, its worth more if nothing has been done to it.

Z06 still looks like a corvette, same general style. But what makes the car what it is?

Chassis?
Style?
Engine?

On top of that who cares what its name is damn, why do people get so offended when you call an srt-4 a neon?

Who got offended?

Anywho, I don't think anyone building a car that visits the track is worried about resale value.; Call me crazy though.... :cool:

MChat
02-14-2006, 08:27 AM
So its using a aftermarket block and heads?
Stock Block, Stock Crank, Stock Head ported by NRGY. Most of the components are stock. The upgraded parts are cams, rods, pistons, valves and valve-springs; I believe everything else is stock. Definitely not the "Aftermarket Engine" some of you are trying to make it out to be. ;)

If so, thats not really "an SRT-4", but anyways any car can make it in the 10's. i bet that car isnt street legal either or his everyday driver. Why have a car run 10's if you can drive it everyday or on the street?? JMO

The car is not only street legal, but it is regularly driven from the owners home in Pine Top to the West side of Phoenix (about 200 miles one way). I don't believe the owner drives it every day, but why put wear and tear on your built motor when you have other vehicles to drive around every day. The SRT is a toy for the owner, something to take out on the weekends and have fun with. :D


BTW, I know the car pretty well. I talk w/ Nick @ NRGY on a regular basis and consider him a close friend. In fact, MY engine (or the pieces thereof) is sitting in his shop right now. ;) And I was the Camera man for the vids. :D And before you ask, on the 10.89 run, I was walking back from the pits to the deck where I was filming from when I heard Nick doing the burnout, so I had to sprint to the deck and up the stairs just in time to get the camera on. The camera jerks around as I'm tripping over crap on the deck.

MChat
02-14-2006, 08:33 AM
Well hopefully I will have mine in the low 10s high 9s. I just got the motor back together with a new crank trigger and better/lighter pistons. Last year our crank trigger was havoc on us because it sat on the crank snout and it was not keyed in any way. Between rounds it would move slightly and change our timing on us. This time we have a modified factory trigger that is bolted to the crank and will not move. I a, dead set on getting this car into the 9s this year.

Same thing happened to my R/T w/ an electromotive style trigger wheel. I had the trigger wheel bolted to an Unorthodox pulley. The pully only drove the alternator. Took me awhile to figure out what was going on, but anytime the car saw > 8000 rpm the alternator would pull on the pulley so hard that it would walk it backward, effectevly retarding the timing. I fixed it by adding a pin and I'm thinking about using one of the window switches on the stand-alone to turn the alternator off over 8000 rpm. That might free up some HP as well.

chevycobaltowner
02-14-2006, 10:09 AM
You talking about the psi-fi car or your cobalt?

He is talking about his Twincharged Ion Redline. Im hoping he comes out with a kit because I will be the first to buy it when he does.

orange juice
02-14-2006, 10:17 AM
I knew mchat would help chime in. :)

TwinCharged
02-14-2006, 10:41 AM
I am referring to my SRT4. I will post some pics up later. It is pretty radical. I have a fully built motor, T72 dbb turbo, Huge FMIC, N2O (Tiny 25hp shot), 3.5" exhaust, rear defuser, Autronics standalone,Darrell Cox 3sp 31th A413 auto tranny with Munzinger converter, and MUCH more. This car is made to run well into the 9s. It is all a matter of getting it all dialed in.

chevycobaltowner
02-14-2006, 12:02 PM
I thought you were talking about your redline. What does it run in the quarter now?

orange juice
02-14-2006, 03:44 PM
I thought you were talking about your redline. What does it run in the quarter now?

:D I just knew he wasn't referring to the redline already. It took us guys over 3 years to get to the mark we're at now. The aftermarket support isn't as vast as we have so I expect this to be a more difficult task for you RL and SS guys. Hopefully the market will support things needed to propel you guys crazy fast times too :cool:


Twin, I wish you the best of luck this season. There are alot of guys and companies coming out full force this season for the SRT4. Gonna be a very interesting year thats for sure. Can't wait to see what AMS has up their sleeve for their SRT4 this year either. They've done great thing for the EVO crowd and now that they are onboard with the neon community things are really going to get interesting. Again, good luck on your quest!

CJ Thunder
02-14-2006, 04:29 PM
Who got offended?

Anywho, I don't think anyone building a car that visits the track is worried about resale value.; Call me crazy though.... :cool:


Lots of people do, and I was just saying originals get more than clones.

orange juice
02-14-2006, 04:55 PM
Lots of people do, and I was just saying originals get more than clones.

I don't think nearly as many SRT4/neon guys get as pissed as some people think they do. But regardless, there is always that crowd in every bunch. Same goes for here....

Still confused what you mean by clone or original. I guess you mean like a Chevele SS clone versus say a original or something along those lines?

SoFlaSS
02-14-2006, 06:49 PM
Still confused what you mean by clone or original. I guess you mean like a Chevele SS clone versus say a original or something along those lines?
Yea, Thats what I was wondering... clone?

KSE
02-14-2006, 06:49 PM
That was cool to watch.

TwinCharged
02-14-2006, 07:35 PM
Here are two pic. The engine one is old. I made a new intake manifold since then.
http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=847&stc=1
http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=848&stc=1

orange juice
02-14-2006, 07:38 PM
What IM is that? One off? My eyes are seeingh a radiator cap on it :eek: !! Very nice set-up. Be sure to post up your progess videos at the tracks this year!!