Oh yea. . . i finally figured it out. . .how to crack the speed limitor on the cobalts. . not sure about the SS if you guys have a speed limitor but on my base coupe i do. and its 105MPH anyone interested in knwing how let me know. . also let me know if it has been posted already cause im new to the Fourm

first off let me say dont even consider going over the limiter. didnt you ever stop and think why there is a limiter? maybe GM is just trying to kill my fun? NO they are trying to save your life! get some z rated tires, lower your car, and then we can talk about not hospitalizing yourself. just trying to keep you from harm man, not trying to spite you :)

didnt you ever stop and think


Now maybe he is prepared with what you asked and what we all know is safe, now I know he is new and has no history here but still...

Now maybe he is prepared with what you asked and what we all know is safe, now I know he is new and has no history here but still...
you both have good points. the question is who else out there would do the mode with no changes to tires. my guess 95% wouldnt. which is scary

you both have good points. the question is who else out there would do the mode with no changes to tires. my guess 95% wouldnt. which is scary


No way that high. Why would the normal person want to go that fast? Anybody that tunes or is into cars would know what they need and then go for this, hopefully...

My number is in the 20% range.

Im a moderator on clubcav.com and we did some checking in to this topic for our site.
Just so you mods know, we found that if some one finds out how to remove there limiter from our site and then gets them selvs hurt or killed. The site owner can be sued for facilating in the death or injury of the person invavled in the crash.

Just an FYI.

Later

you can be sued for anything...

Hell yeah you can, im taking a law class right now and there is some ridculous shit that you guys havent even heard of. Another one the mod get sued for is negligence, and probably something else that i dont even know.

The manufacturer should be sued for selling me a car that has the capability of removing the speed governor !

That wouldnt hold up in court, thats just the same as saying i should sue a manufactuer for them letting me be able to mod my car.

Obviously, but we're talking about frivolous lawsuits. Like suing a web site cuz some dumbass was being dumb.

I agree with you but then again welcome to america!

God Bless AMerica.

So if I learn how to up the boost on my car and kill myself the owner of the forum where I learned how to do that can be sued?

if some fat dude can sue mcdonalds for their obviously unhealthy food for making him fat, YES you can sue your neighboor for being named faucker.

if some fat dude can sue mcdonalds for their obviously unhealthy food for making him fat, YES you can sue your neighboor for being named faucker.
I thought that guy trying to sue mcdonalds got pretty much laughed out of the court room. He didnt really get any money did he??? Wait till you see the warning labels on big mac boxs now :rolleyes: Caution: Eating this everyday will make you fat :eek:

hahahaaha i seriously wouldnt doubt it. thats why it says caution: hot on coffee. ever since i heard that, ive been looking for something unmarked from a corppration to hurt myself on, a few million would be nice :)

So if I learn how to up the boost on my car and kill myself the owner of the forum where I learned how to do that can be sued?


or you could sue the person that told you how to do it. or you oculd sue the company that made his computer he used as a transmittal device to spread the information.

if you can sue a gun company because someone used a gun to shoot someone else, there's no limit to the stupidity you can sue for.

I'm gonna sue for more mod money lol

Well I see some of you did not take this as searusely as others.
Just for your information,
In 2003 a 16 year old KID with his first car (a 95 sunfire) found out how to remove the stock speed limiter from clubfire.com <This site nolonger exists.
He was killed in a crash where he was esamated to have been going more then 125Mph.
(stock limiter is 105) His parents found out that he had modafied the car so that it could go that fast. After geting a P.I to look into the mater they found out that he had gotin the info to do the mod from clubfire.com. They sued the owner of the site and the MODERATOR that gave him the info.
They won.
The site was shut down and the parents where aworded a cash setalment.

I only posted this to help prevent this from happening to this site and or its members.

The car in stock form is limited to 105Mph for a vary good reason.
1. The stock tires can not handel speeds above 105Mph.
2. The stock suspension cant handle it ether.
3. The stock brakes are not up to the task of slowing the car from speeds that high.
4. The car dosnt have the arodinamics to be stable at such high speeds.
5. The car dosnt have the power to reach theas speeds on almost any track in the US.
If you want to be able to go faster then 105Mph you should have bout a car that has the abilaty to do so.

Mods if it was me I would lock/ remove this whole thread.

Later.

sure you're not getting that mixed up with a cavalier? gravanna told me personally this:

GM gave out all of the specifics on the ecu's for the cavaliers, people got in there and started modding and raised the speed limiter on the base models. They limited them at the specific speed because the axles were weak on them. Some kid was going over the speed limit and the axle broke he wrecked and killed himself. This is why GM locks the ecu up so good now.

I'm not sure how the moderator got sued, because freedom of speech. If you have a newspaper article or something on this i would sure like to see it I mean it makes absolutely no sense... You're basically saying that if someone posts install instructions on a stage 2 kit they can be sued if the people wreck while the car is running 6600+ rpm becuase they could not do it before the kit. See where I'm coming from?

sure you're not getting that mixed up with a cavalier? gravanna told me personally this:

GM gave out all of the specifics on the ecu's for the cavaliers, people got in there and started modding and raised the speed limiter on the base models. They limited them at the specific speed because the axles were weak on them. Some kid was going over the speed limit and the axle broke he wrecked and killed himself. This is why GM locks the ecu up so good now.

I'm not sure how the moderator got sued, because freedom of speech. If you have a newspaper article or something on this i would sure like to see it I mean it makes absolutely no sense... You're basically saying that if someone posts install instructions on a stage 2 kit they can be sued if the people wreck while the car is running 6600+ rpm becuase they could not do it before the kit. See where I'm coming from?

I agree, because if someone where to tell someone how to kill thmeselves with for example an gun there's no way someone should be able to be sued for that( im sure someone has or will be in the future though). Because everyone knows that if you put an gun to your head and pull the trigger your gonna die it doesnt take someone telling you this or explaining how to do it. The person who told you how to do it's not the one putting the gun to your head and pulling the trigger. The same with an car if your doing an 130 mph on an highway and you get into an wreck your gonna die(unless you have an 5 point harness and roll cage etc etc..). And its not the person who told you how to alternate the ecu driving or making you crash it's your own stupidity.

And its not the person who told you how to alternate the ecu driving or making you crash it's your own stupidity.

Agreed 100%.. If someone is going to be stupid enough to drive at ridiculously high speeds, then its their own fault.. if he so chooses to drive his car at the limit at 105, who's to say that a speed that high wont kill him. Whether hes going 105 or 150, a crash at that speed in any vehicle not race setup will kill you. We post on this and many other sites how to modify our vehicles. It is VERY possible that if while putting a piece back on from Changing the Short Throw, they vehicle could do some crazy action and the person could die. Any mod to anything that controls what the car does has the potential to kill you. Not just cracking the Speed/Rev limiter.

It has been said many, many times on this site that bypassing the speed limiter is a very dumb idea for the already listed reasons.

So much for liability...

Im a moderator on clubcav.com and we did some checking in to this topic for our site.
Just so you mods know, we found that if some one finds out how to remove there limiter from our site and then gets them selvs hurt or killed. The site owner can be sued for facilating in the death or injury of the person invavled in the crash.

Just an FYI.

Later

bull shit im CRJ MAJOR. he will not be charged with criminal facilatation in any degree.

sure you're not getting that mixed up with a cavalier? gravanna told me personally this:

GM gave out all of the specifics on the ecu's for the cavaliers, people got in there and started modding and raised the speed limiter on the base models. They limited them at the specific speed because the axles were weak on them. Some kid was going over the speed limit and the axle broke he wrecked and killed himself. This is why GM locks the ecu up so good now.

I'm not sure how the moderator got sued, because freedom of speech. If you have a newspaper article or something on this i would sure like to see it I mean it makes absolutely no sense... You're basically saying that if someone posts install instructions on a stage 2 kit they can be sued if the people wreck while the car is running 6600+ rpm becuase they could not do it before the kit. See where I'm coming from?

ok you were all ranting and raving about modding cars making sure u can handle the speed. . . my car is heavily modded. . .i will bring up the parts some other time when im not at work. . . i took the speed limitor off and got it up too 145 MPH on a controlled course. . . aka my airport i work at. . .and i still had plenty of room to go with. . yes there are some idiots out there who are stupid and do it in uncontrolled course. and i didnt have to touch the ECU to do this

ok you were all ranting and raving about modding cars making sure u can handle the speed. . . my car is heavily modded. . .i will bring up the parts some other time when im not at work. . . i took the speed limitor off and got it up too 145 MPH on a controlled course. . . aka my airport i work at. . .and i still had plenty of room to go with. . yes there are some idiots out there who are stupid and do it in uncontrolled course. and i didnt have to touch the ECU to do this

ok, you're heavily modded and probably have the correct rating tires to go that fast, but there's always a chance that some kid will read how to crack the speed limiter in his cobalt/ion and he'll end up with a blow out at 130 mph because his tires couldn't take the speeds. younger people don't think they need better tires just to go fast, there are a lot of uneducated people in the world.

sure you're not getting that mixed up with a cavalier? gravanna told me personally this:

GM gave out all of the specifics on the ecu's for the cavaliers, (Wrong!) people got in there and started modding and raised the speed limiter on the base models. (Never happend) They limited them at the specific speed because the axles were weak on them. (Hmmm Ecotec joshes car will top out at 105 like every ones elses and he makes 270hp to the wheels with not problems with the half shafts at all) Some kid was going over the speed limit and the axle broke he wrecked and killed himself. (This could have happend, But not likely) This is why GM locks the ecu up so good now. (No the OBDII imosed by the governemt is why)

I'm not sure how the moderator got sued, because freedom of speech. If you have a newspaper article or something on this i would sure like to see it I mean it makes absolutely no sense... You're basically saying that if someone posts install instructions on a stage 2 kit they can be sued if the people wreck while the car is running 6600+ rpm becuase they could not do it before the kit. (This dosnt even remotly come close to removeing a sfety device!) See where I'm coming from? (No not at all, Your argument is searasly flawed.)

You guys can baleav what you want to. GM did not lock up the ECU for that reason. They never gave out the code for it. OBDII is what locks it up. all cavys 96 and up have OBDII and that is what it is suposed to do. Keep you out! (Formerly ASE certifid and I know what Im talking about. Do you?)
Second the stage kits or increasing boost is another mater all in its own.
Your not giving some one the abliaty to go faster then what there car can handle. And your not removeing a "SAFETY" device.

And for the law sute it was not crimanl but civll.
I dont realy care if you give out this info. I dont need it.
Just remeber that you might get some one els killed with it. (And it might not be the fool that used it but a mom and her kids or something like that.)
The speed limiter in the cavalier and Cobalt is set where it is do to the tires haveing a speed rating of 110.

I would like to know who owns this site and what there e-mail is. Some one pleas PM me this info.

I totaly cant beleav the Mods on this site. (I have never EVER said anything like that befor)
Im 25 years old my self.
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that 90% or more of the people posting here are much yunger then me. (Rembers when I was 19 and stupid but didnt know it.)

Im discusted with this thread and this topic. Wait till some one you know or love gets hurt or killed as a resolt of some one doing 120Mph and the tires on that car that cant handle the speed blows out.

This entire thread is erisponsable AND SHOULD BE DELETED!

Thats all I have to say.

ok, you're heavily modded and probably have the correct rating tires to go that fast, but there's always a chance that some kid will read how to crack the speed limiter in his cobalt/ion and he'll end up with a blow out at 130 mph because his tires couldn't take the speeds. younger people don't think they need better tires just to go fast, there are a lot of uneducated people in the world.
AMEN TO THAT. in my home town we just had a kid take out his dads c6 Z06 vette. . . was going wayyy to fast around a corner and bit it. . sadly to say he is no longer with us today

You guys can baleav what you want to. GM did not lock up the ECU for that reason. They never gave out the code for it. OBDII is what locks it up. all cavys 96 and up have OBDII and that is what it is suposed to do. Keep you out! (Formerly ASE certifid and I know what Im talking about. Do you?)
Second the stage kits or increasing boost is another mater all in its own.
Your not giving some one the abliaty to go faster then what there car can handle. And your not removeing a "SAFETY" device.

And for the law sute it was not crimanl but civll.
I dont realy care if you give out this info. I dont need it.
Just remeber that you might get some one els killed with it. (And it might not be the fool that used it but a mom and her kids or something like that.)
The speed limiter in the cavalier and Cobalt is set where it is do to the tires haveing a speed rating of 110.



I would like to know who owns this site and what there e-mail is. Some one pleas PM me this info.

I totaly cant beleav the Mods on this site. (I have never EVER said anything like that befor)
Im 25 years old my self.
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that 90% or more of the people posting here are much yunger then me. (Rembers when I was 19 and stupid but didnt know it.)

Im discusted with this thread and this topic. Wait till some one you know or love gets hurt or killed as a resolt of some one doing 120Mph and the tires on that car that cant handle the speed blows out.

This entire thread is erisponsable AND SHOULD BE DELETED!

Thats all I have to say.

Are you kidding me dude? seriously. . . the reasons you have Fourms and topics like this is to get everybodys oppion. you call this irresponsable. . . what if some 17 or 18 yr old hadnt read this thread and figured it out on his own?? and blew himself to pieces. . . hed be dead. . . but then what if he did read it realized his car isnt able to handle it so hes not even oing to try??? i say u need to rethink your decisions about having this topic deleated and look at all stand points of the topic. if anything i would call this thread informative and life saving. And i have known someone who died from a tire blow out. It was my brother. did it changemy mind about speed??? absoulty not. . it changed my mind about responsability. oh and if ou dont like the thread then why bother reading it?

Are you kidding me dude? seriously. . . the reasons you have Fourms and topics like this is to get everybodys oppion. you call this irresponsable. . . what if some 17 or 18 yr old hadnt read this thread and figured it out on his own?? and blew himself to pieces. . . hed be dead. . . but then what if he did read it realized his car isnt able to handle it so hes not even oing to try??? i say u need to rethink your decisions about having this topic deleated and look at all stand points of the topic. if anything i would call this thread informative and life saving. And i have known someone who died from a tire blow out. It was my brother. did it changemy mind about speed??? absoulty not. . it changed my mind about responsability. oh and if ou dont like the thread then why bother reading it?

I can see your point man.
But I had a vary good freind (Back when we where yung and dumb) wreck his car at 135mph. Thankfully he did live bet will never walk agen. The only reson he was able to go that fast was some one showed him how to disable the speed limiter on his car.
If anything this thread should be left here but giving out the info should be restricted to people that have the suporting mods to do this safely and will only use it on a track or controled place (Suchs as a runway) and not on the street.
The person they kill might be you or ME! Remember at 16-17 and so on they think it will never happen to them. I know I never thought any thing would happen to me. And then it did. And Im lucky to be alive right now.

But I can see your side of this. And will withdraw my statment that it should be deleted as this post dosnt directly give out the info on how to remove the limiter.

As for why read this thread? Im not sure. Normaly if I dont like whats going on in a thread I just move on, but the thought of some one being hurt or killed as a resalt of this mod just struck a cord that I could not ignore I guess.

Later

You guys can baleav what you want to. GM did not lock up the ECU for that reason. They never gave out the code for it. OBDII is what locks it up. all cavys 96 and up have OBDII and that is what it is suposed to do. Keep you out! (Formerly ASE certifid and I know what Im talking about. Do you?)
Second the stage kits or increasing boost is another mater all in its own.
Your not giving some one the abliaty to go faster then what there car can handle. And your not removeing a "SAFETY" device.

And for the law sute it was not crimanl but civll.
I dont realy care if you give out this info. I dont need it.
Just remeber that you might get some one els killed with it. (And it might not be the fool that used it but a mom and her kids or something like that.)
The speed limiter in the cavalier and Cobalt is set where it is do to the tires haveing a speed rating of 110.

I would like to know who owns this site and what there e-mail is. Some one pleas PM me this info.

I totaly cant beleav the Mods on this site. (I have never EVER said anything like that befor)
Im 25 years old my self.
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that 90% or more of the people posting here are much yunger then me. (Rembers when I was 19 and stupid but didnt know it.)

Im discusted with this thread and this topic. Wait till some one you know or love gets hurt or killed as a resolt of some one doing 120Mph and the tires on that car that cant handle the speed blows out.

This entire thread is erisponsable AND SHOULD BE DELETED!

Thats all I have to say.

chill out guy. there is no information in this thread on how to remove the speed limiter. geoffW never posted is so there is absolutely nothing in this thread that could be used by anyone to remove the limiter. if there was i'm sure the mods would have already deleted it, but since there isn't this thread is just another discussion. what's the big deal?

I would like to know who owns this site and what there e-mail is. Some one pleas PM me this info.

I'm not doing any research for you. Why don't you try whois?

chill out guy. there is no information in this thread on how to remove the speed limiter. geoffW never posted is so there is absolutely nothing in this thread that could be used by anyone to remove the limiter. if there was i'm sure the mods would have already deleted it, but since there isn't this thread is just another discussion. what's the big deal?

Pleas read post at top of page.

Later

ok, i agree, keep this thread it is educating to people. i must add one thing: just b/c you change your tires doesnt mean you can go as fast as the gearbox will take you. MANY other things get in your way. ok, thats my part and im out!

I can see your point man.
But I had a vary good freind (Back when we where yung and dumb) wreck his car at 135mph. Thankfully he did live bet will never walk agen. The only reson he was able to go that fast was some one showed him how to disable the speed limiter on his car.

Well I dont think it was the only reason he made the choice to take off the limiter and then made the choice to go that fast. Im not saying that taking off the limiter is not dangerous but people can think for themselves and they make their own choices and you gotta pay the consequence for your decision.

Normaly if I dont like whats going on in a thread I just move on, but the thought of some one being hurt or killed as a resalt of this mod just struck a cord that I could not ignore I guess.



any one of these mods could cause someone to wreck and die a horrible trapped in your car while it catches on fire and you're rolling down a gravel incline out of control type of wreck. lol

have you ever once driven over the speed limit? if so, then you shouldn't get mad because you were breaking the law and endangering people's lives.

I'm willing to let the thread remain as I dont see an issue, you can read how to make a bomb on the internet, removing a top speed limitor should be no different.

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