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: Cobalt SS or SRT4?


SensesFail
04-24-2005, 10:36 AM
Hey guys I just registered here and am looking for a new car. I just recently was hit in my srt and it was totaled!!! I was wondering what your likes and dislikes are with the cobalt so far. I'm still unsure if I will be getting another SRT or the Cobalt, but I am sure that I am staying with the Domestic Cars for sure! Thanks for any feedback guys!

steve
04-24-2005, 10:47 AM
COBALT SS!!!

SensesFail
04-24-2005, 10:55 AM
Yea, I think the Cobalt SS looks nice, but I think the SRT is still a nice looking car as well. Im more concerned with how the car rides, interior noise levels and things that have more to do with comfort. Thanks

steve
04-24-2005, 11:03 AM
sorry for the the dig,i probably shouldn't talk 'till i actually HAVE my cobalt!
still waiting 4 months back order :(

87camaroPA
04-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Cobalt SS because i want two doors i have been driven a Camaro for four years and i like two door four doors are just anyoing to me.

srt4b
04-24-2005, 01:46 PM
COBALT SS!!! no matter how you dress it up, the SRT4 is still just a 4-door NEON ;)


WTF does that have to do with anything?

STFU unless you have something to add to the thread.

SensesFail
04-24-2005, 02:25 PM
Srt4B, are you over on the srtforums? My name on there is Srt4Driven.

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 02:33 PM
Get both !!!!! like me :D srt is a lil faster, but i love them both.

87camaroPA
04-24-2005, 02:39 PM
Get both !!!!! like me :D srt is a lil faster, but i love them both.


Well for now that SRT-4 is that fastest. But you wait untill that SS gets some more backing. :D :p

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
well is hard for me , i have a 508 whp srt-4 , we also own a 300 whp stock turbo srt-4 and now i got my wife the cobalt. the cobalt will get lots of goodies very soon. i will be becoming a vndor of this forum soon

87camaroPA
04-24-2005, 02:53 PM
well is hard for me , i have a 508 whp srt-4 , we also own a 300 whp stock turbo srt-4 and now i got my wife the cobalt. the cobalt will get lots of goodies very soon. i will be becoming a vndor of this forum soon

Yeah it would be hard for me to but you can see your self the potentioal for car that has some seriouse potentioal for that street and on the strip. And keep us updated on the stuff that will becomeing out. I will be very interested. And are you based out of PA? I live right outside Harrisburg.

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 02:54 PM
best picrue ever

87camaroPA
04-24-2005, 02:56 PM
Nice pic. of them all in a line.

steve
04-24-2005, 03:02 PM
WTF does that have to do with anything?

STFU unless you have something to add to the thread.

alright,alright,calm down.just trying to get a rise out of all the dodge owners
on a what i thought was a chevy site. no serious intent,just a friendly jab :rolleyes:

87camaroPA
04-24-2005, 03:04 PM
alright,alright,calm down.just trying to get a rise out of all the dodge owners
on a what i thought was a chevy site. no serious intent,just a friendly jab :rolleyes:

Yeah but you got to watch your self here because this site is FULL of SRT-4 owners.

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 03:12 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=D90A74B4-F712-43D9-AF27-E6B8085BB932


a lil fun last night

Riddler
04-24-2005, 03:13 PM
I guess it just depends on what your looking for in the car.

The SRT4 has much more performance. Face it. 2.0L Cobalt SS to a 2.4L SRT4. Also the turbo has a much better rate of performance gain than a supercharger. But you also have to look at the comfort factors of each car. The SRT4 wasn't made to be comfortable. It was made to perform. The Cobalt SS is a much more refined vehicle and the interior is much nicer and sleaker. The Cobalt SS is more of an average driver's car whereas the SRT4 is directed more towards the guy who wants to go balls to the wall fast.

Other than that it just seemed the Cobalt Designers got lazy. Who in there right mind would continue to use a solid rear axle when it's just as cheap to go independant rear. Also why was a 5 speed manual used when they have access to 6sp Getrags? Just doesn't make sense. Why cheap out?

Riddler

steve
04-24-2005, 03:14 PM
just my point.anyhoo any thoughts on motor trends head to head match between
SRT-4 & COBALT SS. they brought up something that worries me. they claimed that
the limited slip diff. was A.W.O.L.

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 03:24 PM
we feel that in a race the srt-4 will be alot faster stock for stock.However from owning both cars the cobalt does get out of the hole alot quicker, the stock clutch in the cobalt also engages alot harder, and the trans is smoother and shifter feels awsome. but as said earlier the srt-4 is more of a race car out of the box where the cobalt has more of the luxury

SensesFail
04-24-2005, 04:58 PM
Ray, i know of your car pretty well (srt4) being a veteran over on the srtforums, so your opinion is greatly appreciated. I have seen your car in videos and its seems to be a true monster. I saw over on the other forum that you said you cant say which exactly you like better and belive me i can understand fully. Now that im ready to buy another car i though for sure it was going to be another srt but i love the appearance of the cobalt so im stuck! Either way I will remain on both forums and try and contribute to both since i like both cars so much. Thanks for the feedback everybody, i would like to hear some driving impression's as soon as you guys can really drive them.

BTW: Ray is a great vendor for the srt's and I would recommend him to anybody looking for high quality products for aftermarket support and customer service.

ray@revitup
04-24-2005, 05:09 PM
our current future plans with the cobalt is for 500's whp. if we did it on my srt we can do it in the cobalt. so far from, what we have been seeing is that there is far more work to be done to the cobalt to hit that number than it is on the srt-4. our main target right now is to achieve atleast 250ish to 270 with minimal mods. we will be ordering our pulley from south florida pulleys this week and also will be hooking up our greddy emanage to tune. we will test out the 6 psi increase one and we will let you guys know how we make out. i will also find out if the stock injectors will be able to handle this or if we will have to upgrade. I will also be working with my sister company IPP to release numerous visual and performance mods. and god damn this solid rear suspension :mad: if it wasnt for that we will have had a full 36 way adjustable suspension like the ones we have for the srt-4 very soon.



Ray
www.revitupmotorsports.net

ITS SLOW
04-24-2005, 11:50 PM
Yeah but you got to watch your self here because this site is FULL of SRT-4 owners.
Heh, yeah, you could say we're. . . . "around." :cool:

87camaroPA
04-25-2005, 12:15 AM
Heh, yeah, you could say we're. . . . "around." :cool:

Yeah i know there is alot of you guy's in here but as long as you guy are not trolling the site most of us have no problem with you guys. :cool:

SRT THIS
04-25-2005, 02:50 AM
Yeah i know there is alot of you guy's in here but as long as you guy are not trolling the site most of us have no problem with you guys. :cool:

No Trolling Bro, Just gettin to know our new Domestic Buddy :D

deuses300c
04-25-2005, 06:51 AM
Hey guys I just registered here and am looking for a new car. I just recently was hit in my srt and it was totaled!!! I was wondering what your likes and dislikes are with the cobalt so far. I'm still unsure if I will be getting another SRT or the Cobalt, but I am sure that I am staying with the Domestic Cars for sure! Thanks for any feedback guys!

Damn dude sorry to hear about the car! :(

My bud's got an SRT-4, one thing i'll miss is that sexc blowoff valve :D

Personally i would go with the Cobalt, but hey im a chevy guy :cool:
/personal opinion

Seanie719
04-25-2005, 03:53 PM
Yeah but just because there are lot of srt owners(including me) doesn't mean you have to watch yourself. This is a cobalt forum not an srt forum. Thats what srtforums.com are for. I hope this site doesn't turn into people jumping on cobalt owners the minute they mention something they don't like on the srt because this is for cobalt owners and other non cobalt members who can contribute and talk about how they like their cobalt and dislikes compared to other cars, just like every other different car forums. Just my 2 cents.

steve
04-25-2005, 04:35 PM
Yeah but just because there are lot of srt owners(including me) doesn't mean you have to watch yourself. This is a cobalt forum not an srt forum. Thats what srtforums.com are for. I hope this site doesn't turn into people jumping on cobalt owners the minute they mention something they don't like on the srt because this is for cobalt owners and other non cobalt members who can contribute and talk about how they like their cobalt and dislikes compared to other cars, just like every other different car forums. Just my 2 cents.

well put! your 2 cents is just as important as us cobalt owners,or soon
to be owners. the more info on our cars,the better

midnght
04-25-2005, 06:21 PM
When you title a thread on ANY forum comparing 2 cars expect people to interact and jump the gun. It is part of human nature. I would be willing to bet that 75%-90% of the people registered on this board are SRT-4 owners or former Owners.

It is the few that talk trash about the CSS. I like the car, design, idea. I just need 4 doors for my family thus the SRT-4. Nice cars, both of them are. Just one is geared toward refinement and one is geared toward performance. You decide which one is good for you.

WRicerX
04-25-2005, 06:27 PM
Family + 4 Doors = Happy back

87camaroPA
04-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Yeah but just because there are lot of srt owners(including me) doesn't mean you have to watch yourself. This is a cobalt forum not an srt forum. Thats what srtforums.com are for. I hope this site doesn't turn into people jumping on cobalt owners the minute they mention something they don't like on the srt because this is for cobalt owners and other non cobalt members who can contribute and talk about how they like their cobalt and dislikes compared to other cars, just like every other different car forums. Just my 2 cents.

Well i was saying i just dont want any fights on the forum and that it is very true that there are alot of SRT-4 owners here for a few reason's. One you guys are learning about a new competator on the streets and on the srips and, second you guys like the car. Plain and simple luckly that site has not seen to many trolls yet but hopefully that site wont. The SRT and that SS will be some intereisting rivals because the SRT can really go strait but the SS can really hug the corners. But that is all of my two cents

midnght
04-25-2005, 06:54 PM
They are in the same class. Plain and simple they are the best cars in the price range for anyone looking for these 2 particular platforms.

4 door/2 door take your pick. There will be plenty of stuff out for the CSS pretty soon. Hell, Ray has his hands on one now so that is a HUGE step for you guys wanting things to be developed. Give it some time and they will be in the same speed department as the SRT-4, just as likely as us putting money into the suspension and handling to be able to hang on the twisties. Don't count us completely out in the turns, on the same note...we know we don't have a superior turning/handling car on our hands.

We might even pick up an SS for shits and giggles.

phxSS
04-25-2005, 09:09 PM
domestics suck..Honda rules! They have more hp/L, therefore they are superior!

CoBIZZLE
04-25-2005, 11:14 PM
You know what the SRT is like, Try an SS to test drive and your own mind make up, only then, will you be happy young Jedi.

DJOrtiz
04-26-2005, 12:21 PM
well its all up to the buyer, we are just here to aid with your decision.... but for me i like that the srt4 is the best bang for the buck compact car... but in other aspects GM out did the srt4... hope you are wise in your decision... by the way you know what the srt4 is all about since you've had one.. but i'm sure that the cobalt will have the aftermarket hooking it up..

ftbraggsrt4
04-27-2005, 09:33 AM
like everyone else said. test drive. two different cars. we all know the srt isnt about interior design or finest. its loud inside and raw.

redsrt413.6
04-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I like my interior it is nice and it has the hugging seats that hold you in one good position and it is not that loud inside. But yes it is kinda hard getting in and out for a good size person due to the seats. But once you are in it is all good. Me personally don't have that prob. cus I am not a big person. Catch ma drift!!

deuses300c
04-27-2005, 01:48 PM
I havent sat inside a Cobalt SS personally, but i really enjoy the SRT's buckets. Lots of leg room too. Very comfortable, but im liking the SS's fold down middle arm rest. (pics ive seen)

sarrett4
04-28-2005, 09:31 AM
im shocked, i honestly thoghut srt and cobalt owners would fight al lthe time about whos cars better, but so far everyone is getting a long, nice to see :)

87camaroPA
04-28-2005, 09:53 AM
im shocked, i honestly thoghut srt and cobalt owners would fight al lthe time about whos cars better, but so far everyone is getting a long, nice to see :)

Yeah so far it has been queit and calm. And welcome to the site.

castrol
04-28-2005, 11:11 AM
We are pretty much in the same boat... boosted 4 cylinders. No reason to fight other
than a little friendly competition. Other than that, it is us vs. them. (4's vs. 8s')

CoBIZZLE
04-28-2005, 11:13 AM
Us vs. them (Domestics vs. Imports!!!) :D :D :D

orange juice
04-28-2005, 11:15 AM
Us vs. them (Domestics vs. Imports!!!) :D :D :D


There ya go! Thats the right attitude :)

COBALT SS!!! no matter how you dress it up, the SRT4 is still just a 4-door NEON ;)

Same applies for the cobalt bro. There is a base model just like there is a regualr neon and a SRT. Same for the cobalt, there is the SS and the regular econo cobalt.

redsrt413.6
04-28-2005, 11:45 AM
I like to think of it as hondas nissan and every thing like us vs' V8s we need to show them what little ol 4 cyl.'s are capabule of producing and that we are a growing industary in all fields domestic and import. cus we are raising the bar and fast!!
STEP UP OR SHUT UP!!

jigga_x
04-28-2005, 12:13 PM
I got to see Ray's Cobalt SS...i like the styling, maybe beacuse i'm a former Cavalier owner. The interior is very nice. Can't wait to see some on the streets and at the track.

As for your decision, be like Ray and get both...LOL...but for those of us that are poor, just get what makes u happy dude. They're both great cars...along with the Redline. I personally like the styling of the Cobalt more than the Redline even though the Redline claims to be 2 tenths faster in the quarter.

Me personally, I would get the new white ACR edition SRT and call it a day, but it's entirely up to you. I'm trying to talk my girlfriend into getting a Cobalt SS...I think I'm winning...LOL

BLUBYYOU
04-28-2005, 12:44 PM
I have to say, it's going to be alot of fun when I start running into ss's on the street
or at the track. I am really looking forward to seeing what they can do since I already
have my grocery getter and I really want a 2 door coupe. ;)

cnr69
04-29-2005, 12:28 AM
I agree with this last post. Why buy a four door sports car? Maybe I'm
missin' somethin'?

BlueSRT
04-29-2005, 03:38 AM
COBALT SS!!! no matter how you dress it up, the SRT4 is still just a 4-door NEON ;)

I tought a cobalt was just a dressed up cavalier? By the way I have a SRT and just ordered a cobalt ss as my beater to get to work and back.....

mm_omega2
04-29-2005, 04:49 AM
you ordered a car that costs as much if not a little more than the car you have now.....as a beater..................
Wish we had the B.S. flag here

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 06:57 AM
Yea all a quote cobalt ss is is a cavalier and it is still slow stock
stock for stock the srt would tear that a$$ up!!

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 07:04 AM
you know i didn't want it to go this way till some1 had to say o the srt is just a 4dr neon well it isn't and what about the ss all it is is a cavalier with a new body and a super charger i mean it has the freakin saturn motor that gotta suck any way super chargers suck on a 4cyl they were orginally designed for v8's and bigger something that can produce power with it!!

sphipps
04-29-2005, 07:59 AM
redsrt413.6 stop giving all the SRT owners a bad name. don't know why you are over here starting all this crap with these guys.

the nerve of some people. get over it...you drive a turbo charged 4-door neon. if you can't get past that..then get rid of the car.

btw: I too drive a turbo charged 4-door neon.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 08:03 AM
yea i might drive that but i drove ya momma last night

sphipps
04-29-2005, 08:06 AM
yea i might drive that but i drove ya momma last night

are you serious..that's the best you can come up with. :rolleyes:

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 08:11 AM
you like that hu

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 08:11 AM
aight i gotta go i am at work

sphipps
04-29-2005, 08:15 AM
aight i gotta go i am at work

it's about time you did something constructive with your life besides starting shit with these guys.

aredsrt4
04-29-2005, 08:23 AM
yes but I see where he is comming from no1 shud be talking bad about any1s car.

gliv
04-29-2005, 08:27 AM
yea i might drive that but i drove ya momma last night

I think you deserve a bad name. If someone wants to give all SRT owners a bad name because of this individuals comments then they are stupid, and I wouldn't give a damn what name they gave me do to there ignorance.

Redsrt- Until you have and SRT with 500whp like me. Shut Up! Quit frankly I am tired of hearing this baseline stock for stock trash talking/bush league BS. Go home. Gliv out!

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 08:32 AM
I think you deserve a bad name. If someone wants to give all SRT owners a bad name because of this individuals comments then they are stupid, and I wouldn't give a damn what name they gave me do to there ignorance.

Redsrt- Until you have and SRT with 500whp like me. Shut Up! Quit frankly I am tired of hearing this baseline stock for stock trash talking/bush league BS. Go home. Gliv out!


Maby we all don't have rich parents to buy all of our parts for us some of us have to work and pay other bills other than note and insurance dork!!

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 08:38 AM
Yea all a quote cobalt ss is is a cavalier and it is still slow stock
stock for stock the srt would tear that a$$ up!!
Yeah in a straight line you hit some tight twisties and the table WILL TRUN!!!

you know i didn't want it to go this way till some1 had to say o the srt is just a 4dr neon well it isn't and what about the ss all it is is a cavalier with a new body and a super charger i mean it has the freakin saturn motor that gotta suck any way super chargers suck on a 4cyl they were orginally designed for v8's and bigger something that can produce power with it!!
Well an SRT-4 IS a Neon, I wouldn't say that it is JUST a Neon because it has an entirely different drivetrain, and an amazing one at that, the SRT-4 gets a LOT of respect from me, and always will, even though it IS a Neon, no disgrace at all in saying that. However, the Cobalt SS IS NOT a dressed up Cavalier. It has NOTHING to do with the Cavalier. It has a completely different frame, body, engine, tranny,etc. Granted the base model shares the 2.2L Ecotech w/ the Cavy yet it is said to have been redesigned with more power (which Im not sure it has, probably just "boosted" the rating and not the output) BUT so does a lot of other new GM vehicles nowdays, the Ecotech is becoming an engine design for many of their vehicles, they are even releasing V6 Ecotechs now. A Z28 is still a Camaro, as is a Cobra is a Mustang, Z06 is a Vette, ACR Viper still a Viper,etc

Bottom line is the SRT-4 is a Neon, just a really fast/bat out of hell Neon. And the SS is not a Cavalier, it is however a Cobalt just like the SRT-4 is to the Neon. It doesnt matter what people call your car Neon/SRT-4 Cobalt/SS. You drive what you drive and bein that you have a SRT-4 you should be proud.

dodgeZ
04-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Yeah in a straight line you hit some tight twisties and the table WILL TRUN!!!

Well an SRT-4 IS a Neon, I wouldn't say that it is JUST a Neon because it has an entirely different drivetrain, and an amazing one at that, the SRT-4 gets a LOT of respect from me, and always will, even though it IS a Neon, no disgrace at all in saying that. However, the Cobalt SS IS NOT a dressed up Cavalier. It has NOTHING to do with the Cavalier. It has a completely different frame, body, engine, tranny,etc. Granted the base model shares the 2.2L Ecotech w/ the Cavy yet it is said to have been redesigned with more power (which Im not sure it has, probably just "boosted" the rating and not the output) BUT so does a lot of other new GM vehicles nowdays, the Ecotech is becoming an engine design for many of their vehicles, they are even releasing V6 Ecotechs now. A Z28 is still a Camaro, as is a Cobra is a Mustang, Z06 is a Vette, ACR Viper still a Viper,etc

Bottom line is the SRT-4 is a Neon, just a really fast/bat out of hell Neon. And the SS is not a Cavalier, it is however a Cobalt just like the SRT-4 is to the Neon. It doesnt matter what people call your car Neon/SRT-4 Cobalt/SS. You drive what you drive and bein that you have a SRT-4 you should be proud.

A Cobalt is a piece of shit just like the Cavalier. It's just a newer piece of shit, an upgraded piece of shit if you will. Is a Neon a POS? Yeah, but not as much as a Cavalier/Cobalt...

aredsrt4
04-29-2005, 08:45 AM
Yeah in a straight line you hit some tight twisties and the table WILL TRUN!!!

Well an SRT-4 IS a Neon, I wouldn't say that it is JUST a Neon because it has an entirely different drivetrain, and an amazing one at that, the SRT-4 gets a LOT of respect from me, and always will, even though it IS a Neon, no disgrace at all in saying that. However, the Cobalt SS IS NOT a dressed up Cavalier. It has NOTHING to do with the Cavalier. It has a completely different frame, body, engine, tranny,etc. Granted the base model shares the 2.2L Ecotech w/ the Cavy yet it is said to have been redesigned with more power (which Im not sure it has, probably just "boosted" the rating and not the output) BUT so does a lot of other new GM vehicles nowdays, the Ecotech is becoming an engine design for many of their vehicles, they are even releasing V6 Ecotechs now. A Z28 is still a Camaro, as is a Cobra is a Mustang, Z06 is a Vette, ACR Viper still a Viper,etc

Bottom line is the SRT-4 is a Neon, just a really fast/bat out of hell Neon. And the SS is not a Cavalier, it is however a Cobalt just like the SRT-4 is to the Neon. It doesnt matter what people call your car Neon/SRT-4 Cobalt/SS. You drive what you drive and bein that you have a SRT-4 you should be proud.



Agreed so every1 stop dogging every1 and lets talk good about all our cars cus we all have the same hobbies fixing up and racing them the SRT4 is a very nice car and the Cobalt SS is also so lets talk about their strong points.

sphipps
04-29-2005, 08:47 AM
A Cobalt is a piece of shit just like the Cavalier. It's just a newer piece of shit, an upgraded piece of shit if you will. Is a Neon a POS? Yeah, but not as much as a Cavalier/Cobalt...

where is your proof? look at my sig.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 08:48 AM
Why go on about how the SRT4 is just a Neon and not ever mention that the Cobalt SS is just a Cobalt? They are both econocars that are factory modified. Dodge did a better job with the SRT4 engine wise, while GM did a better job chassis wise. But GM is also working with a new platform while Dodge just spruced up an old outgoing chassis. Their both nice cars, buy the SRT4 for performance and modability, or buy the Cobalt SS for a solid, nice riding, quick-not fast- car.

gliv
04-29-2005, 08:50 AM
Maby we all don't have rich parents to buy all of our parts for us some of us have to work and pay other bills other than note and insurance dork!!

I am 38 years old boy, and I don't live with mommy and daddy get a better job if its a problem for you. You are a joke, memo to all Cobaltss.com members don't pay any attention to this idiot. By the way he is not even a veteran member of srtforums he is a NEWBIE!

aredsrt4
04-29-2005, 08:53 AM
I am 38 years old boy, and I don't live with mommy and daddy get a better job if its a problem for you. You are a joke, memo to all Cobaltss.com members don't pay any attention to this idiot. By the way he is not even a veteran member of srtforums he is a NEWBIE!


You are 38 years old and you are arguing with a bunch of teens good one bet that makes you feel proud. And I hope you don't live with your mom and dad at 38.

sphipps
04-29-2005, 08:56 AM
You are 38 years old and you are arguing with a bunch of teens good one bet that makes you feel proud. And I hope you don't live with your mom and dad at 38.
:rolleyes:

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 08:56 AM
I am 38 years old boy, and I don't live with mommy and daddy get a better job if its a problem for you. You are a joke, memo to all Cobaltss.com members don't pay any attention to this idiot. By the way he is not even a veteran member of srtforums he is a NEWBIE!


I have a good job I pay for my house my girl my girls car and all the bills and she don't work I prob. make more then you too. and u know whats sad I am about 15 years younger then you!!

sphipps
04-29-2005, 08:58 AM
I have a good job I pay for my house my girl my girls car and all the bills and she don't work I prob. make more then you too. and u know whats sad I am about 15 years younger then you!!

so you are the bitch in the relationship....LOL

where is the BS flag when you need it.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:01 AM
Its funny how this is a Cobalt SS site and you have a bunch of SRT4 owners bitching at each other. LOL.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:01 AM
no the man i am not scared to work i don't want my girl to have to work i support her sorry i have a good trade.

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 09:02 AM
I have a good job I pay for my house my girl my girls car and all the bills and she don't work I prob. make more then you too. and u know whats sad I am about 15 years younger then you!!

No you know what is really sad is that these guys will think that we are like you and we are not!!!! Please ad this to your sig " i do not speak on behalf of other SRT-4 owners and all the shit i speak comes from me and me alone!!!!"

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:03 AM
Its funny how this is a Cobalt SS site and you have a bunch of SRT4 owners bitching at each other. LOL.

I need something to do to occupy my time while I'm bored at work..besides...he is good entertainment.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:09 AM
I need something to do to occupy my time while I'm bored at work..besides...he is good entertainment.


yep thats what I am doin too I am board at work also gotta hate that!!

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:16 AM
And my car isn't my only priorty I also havd a 2005 TRX 450 that I just bought about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I am trying to fix that up also and the stuff for that isn't too cheap either.

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:18 AM
And my car isn't my only priorty I also havd a 2005 TRX 450 that I just bought about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I am trying to fix that up also and the stuff for that isn't too cheap either.

got any pics?

gliv
04-29-2005, 09:20 AM
You are 38 years old and you are arguing with a bunch of teens good one bet that makes you feel proud. And I hope you don't live with your mom and dad at 38.

Ahhh! So now I know what I am dealing with. Little Bitches on a website, you boys don't know jack shit about these cars your words are useless.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:21 AM
got any pics?


of what Bike?

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:23 AM
of what Bike?

duh...you are boasting about your house, your two cars and now you have a quad.

I wanna see all of them together in front of your house...and have you in the pic also.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:24 AM
yeah wearing a clown suit so we know its really you.

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:25 AM
yeah wearing a clown suit so we know its really you.

good idea.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:26 AM
duh...you are boasting about your house, your two cars and now you have a quad.

I wanna see all of them together in front of your house...and have you in the pic also.


I shure do at my house I am at work right now when I get home I will send them to you and by the way my bike is almost stock all I have on it so far is curtis sparks exhaust, filter, rev box, carb. jet, DG front bumper, nerf bars and 6pak rack on back. With the woody woodpecker graphic nonslide seat!!

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:30 AM
Clown Suit!!!

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 09:31 AM
dodgeZ, Im just gonna ignore you're immature post, you obviously dont know what you are talkin about, the Cobalt (especially the SS) hasnt hit in full force yet so I doubt you have driven one in extent (because one test drive WONT tell you everything about a car if you have even SEEN one yet)
P.S. They say that this car is very durable and that the interior is much nicer than most cars in its class.

Oh and to bikeluver, I did mention that an SS is just a Cobalt. Check my unedited post.

And all of you sorry bastard SRT-4 guys!!!! No Im just kiddin you guys are cool and I really appreciate most of your inputs! :D Im sorry this guy is givin yall a bad name and EVERYONE a hard time!

Everybody just try to get along.

Oh and somebody said somethin about the SS not bein very fast, somethin like wuick but not fast and that it didnt have much modability???? Yeah I'll just ignore that one too. Look at all the stuff for Ecotech Cavaliers, you think they wont have mods for the SS!?!??!? They've got bolt on turbos to run the Cavy's into the 13's and lots of other mods that are capable of pushin em into the 12s, trust me the Cobalt will be there and beyond.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 09:32 AM
Clown Suit!!!



Don't have one can I use yours!!

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 09:32 AM
Maybe his name is Andy :)

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 09:36 AM
Oh and dont worry guys, we know that most SRT-4 owners are really cool, and we can also tell who or when someone is just trollin or plain ole full of shit. So no hard feelings... to most of you anyways LOL.
Just ignore the troublemakers and maybe they'll go away, though it does seem ro be more fun to bother back with them sometimes.LOL

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:39 AM
Normally I'm easy to get along with. This schmuck staring all the trouble posted on SRT forums trying to get alot of us over here to bash you guys.

When I see a Cobalt SS with a blown transmission at 8,300 miles..then I will laugh..until then...nothing.

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 09:40 AM
This is what his profile reads on our forums.
Birthday:
September 1, 1982
Location:
Lafayette
Make:
Dodge
Model:
SRT 4
Year:
2004
Color:
Red
Mods:
Turbo XS High Performance Westgate, Type RFL BlowOff Valve, Turbo XS Boost Controller, Greddy TT
My Car:
No
More Mods:
This is the area to add more mods

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:40 AM
Don't have one can I use yours!!

You'll have to be more specific, I have a few. :o

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:41 AM
You'll have to be more specific, I have a few. :o

ROFL...now that's funny!!

Chevy4Life85
04-29-2005, 09:42 AM
I tought a cobalt was just a dressed up cavalier? By the way I have a SRT and just ordered a cobalt ss as my beater to get to work and back.....

100% wrong the Cobalt Coupe Sedan SS any of them are completely different cars than the cavalier the cavalier is gone.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:42 AM
Normally I'm easy to get along with. This schmuck staring all the trouble posted on SRT forums trying to get alot of us over here to bash you guys.

When I see a Cobalt SS with a blown transmission at 8,300 miles..then I will laugh..until then...nothing.

The SRT4 definitely has its low points- Bad engine mounts that can allow the engine to shift so much during a burnout/launch that you can punch a hole in the oil pan. The whole Tire size thing is annoying also, along with the typical Neon issues of no power rear windows and some minor quality issues.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:43 AM
ROFL...now that's funny!!

Theres nothing funny about a man trying to make a living as a clown. I gotta eat too pal.

sphipps
04-29-2005, 09:44 AM
Theres nothing funny about a man trying to make a living as a clown. I gotta eat too pal.

you do kids birthday parties? my daughter is afraid of clowns and I would love to scare the shit out of her.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 09:52 AM
I can scare the shit out of her if you want, I'll wait till she's in bed and stand outside her window in my clown suit during a thunder/lightning storm. She'll literally shit her pants.

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 09:56 AM
I can scare the shit out of her if you want, I'll wait till she's in bed and stand outside her window in my clown suit during a thunder/lightning storm. She'll literally shit her pants.


Dam that would scare the shit outta me id me going for the 40.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 10:00 AM
Looks like the weatherman is calling for Tstorms tonight muahahahahahha

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 10:02 AM
LOL @ orngblast^^^^

You guys would scar that poor kid for life!!!

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 10:04 AM
alright yall it was fun but i gotta go but by the way all the stuff psoted in here wasn't even commin from me lol I teach water safty to off shure hands and they were in here telling me what to say to start drama they like that lol but it was fun while it lasted
n-e-ways i gotta go I iwll be on later tonight maby!!

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 10:06 AM
The SRT4 definitely has its low points- Bad engine mounts that can allow the engine to shift so much during a burnout/launch that you can punch a hole in the oil pan. The whole Tire size thing is annoying also, along with the typical Neon issues of no power rear windows and some minor quality issues.
Oh and EVERY car is gonna have its issues wether it is a 1986 Nissan or a 2006 Mercedes. And about those rear windows in the Neons, I know in the older Neons the window would only roll down so far (just a few inches) because of the shape of the door on the bottom, if it went down any further it woulda hit the bottom of the door. And bein that it would only go down like 3" or so it wasnt a cost effective idea to put power windows for such a short travel. Might be the same way for the new Neons.

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 10:09 AM
alright yall it was fun but i gotta go but by the way all the stuff psoted in here wasn't even commin from me lol I teach water safty to off shure hands and they were in here telling me what to say to start drama they like that lol but it was fun while it lasted
n-e-ways i gotta go I iwll be on later tonight maby!!

It says here that you are a what?

Birthday:
September 1, 1982
Biography:
I am a proud owner of a fine Red SRT4
Location:
Louisiana
Interests:
Racing my car and bike.
Occupation:
Sslesman

Is your name really Andy?
Oh yea on our forums it says that your car is not yours and here on this forum you states that it is yours. Which is it can you tell us please thanks for the help!!!

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 10:15 AM
I have no idea whats going on right now.

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 10:16 AM
??? bewildered... bs flag??? more like bs airplane banner. not coming from him??? did they put a gun to his head??? Im not understanding his last post.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 10:30 AM
gun to head i'm confused? we were cuttin up just for fun no real purpose as a matter of fact i got on here cus i think that cobalt is cool and yes the srt4 is mine but i like the cobalt also gotta go!!

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 10:50 AM
Thats what I meant, is that I was confused by what you meant, well if you are sincere then... well... who knows.... I dont care anymore

castrol
04-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Maby we all don't have rich parents to buy all of our parts for us some of us have to work and pay other bills other than note and insurance dork!!

Working yourself toward the first ban on CobaltSS I see...

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 11:05 AM
Thats what I meant, is that I was confused by what you meant, well if you are sincere then... well... who knows.... I dont care anymore


What do you mean?

It is funny how people can get so personal and mad lol. If I offended any1 in here I am sorry it was a joke. The Cobalt SS and the SRT4 are two fine and awesome cars!! I like them both!! gtg!!

sphipps
04-29-2005, 11:07 AM
What do you mean?

It is funny how people can get so personal and mad lol. If I offended any1 in here I am sorry it was a joke. The Cobalt SS and the SRT4 are two fine and awesome cars!! I like them both!! gtg!!

why do you say Cobalt SS and SRT-4. Shouldn't you say Cobalt SS and Neon SRT-4. :confused:

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 11:12 AM
why do you say Cobalt SS and SRT-4. Shouldn't you say Cobalt SS and Neon SRT-4. :confused:


or a Cavalier SS and a Neon SRT 4 ;)

sphipps
04-29-2005, 11:14 AM
or a Cavalier SS and a Neon SRT 4 ;)

umm...because the Cobalt ISN'T a Cavalier. The Cobalt is a brand new design from GM from the ground up. The Cobalt REPLACED the Cavalier.

Geez..don't you guys follow along?

NeonOrngBlast
04-29-2005, 11:14 AM
or a Cavalier SS and a Neon SRT 4 ;)
HEY ITS NOT A NEON!!!!!!!




































Thats funny yes it is!!!!
oh yea the neon wasnt racing!!!

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 11:18 AM
umm...because the Cobalt ISN'T a Cavalier. The Cobalt is a brand new design from GM from the ground up. The Cobalt REPLACED the Cavalier.

Geez..don't you guys follow along?

Go ahead and believe what you want. It's just a cavalier with a facelift and a supercharger. Look at the Neon SRT 4, a neon with a turbo, nothing wrong with that.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 11:27 AM
whatever they are they are both nice cars!!

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 11:29 AM
It just depends on what you want to spend and what results you want.

redsrt413.6
04-29-2005, 11:31 AM
or a Cavalier SS and a Neon SRT 4 ;)


Dude I hope you are just jokin too cus you are about to start a war up in here lol. AGAIN!! LOL!!

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 11:40 AM
Dude I hope you are just jokin too cus you are about to start a war up in here lol. AGAIN!! LOL!!

I was just stating my opinion, I'm sure the Cavalier and Neon owners don't see it that way.

Mike A
04-29-2005, 11:42 AM
no offense to any ss owners, but I think its just not fast enough. 14.7 quarter mile? My plan is to wait for the 2.4L SS option & install a turbo.
Yes, it would be aftermarket and even more expensive than the SRT-4, but with the better handling of the SS, the neons would be standing still.

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 11:45 AM
no offense to any ss owners, but I think its just not fast enough. 14.7 quarter mile? My plan is to wait for the 2.4L SS option & install a turbo.
Yes, it would be aftermarket and even more expensive than the SRT-4, but with the better handling of the SS, the neons would be standing still.

Personally, I think they should have gone in the turbo direction to start with. Tha Cavalier all ready has a better looking body style than the Neon. I think it would have sold very well. I guess they didn't want to look like they were copying Dodge.

Mike A
04-29-2005, 12:02 PM
Personally, I think they should have gone in the turbo direction to start with. Tha Cavalier all ready has a better looking body style than the Neon. I think it would have sold very well. I guess they didn't want to look like they were copying Dodge.



come on bro, Youve gotta at least try to call it a cobalt or an ss. And I agree with the whole supercharger vs. turbo. Everyone knows you get more effective boost from a turbo than a supercharger

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 12:04 PM
come on bro, Youve gotta at least try to call it a cobalt or an ss. And I agree with the whole supercharger vs. turbo. Everyone knows you get more effective boost from a turbo than a supercharger

Okay, from now on, I'll refer to it as an SS. If I end up getting this car, I might be a permanent fixture here and I don't want to piss off too many people. :D

jigga_x
04-29-2005, 12:05 PM
I've seen fully built Cavaliers running 10s at Atco...any car can be modified. The SRT and the SS are both great cars. When u say SRT u automatically think of the Neon SRT-4 because how many SRT-10s (Rams or Vipers) do u see everyday...LOL

The SS referes to so many cars Chevy has produced so u have to say Cobalt SS. not that it would matter on a Cobalt SS forum...LOL

maverick007
04-29-2005, 12:05 PM
Calling the Cobalt a Cavaleir shows you have no brains....I would never drive a Cavaleir(soory,no offense to cavy owners) or a POS Neon. I test drove a Cobalt and it is no Cavaleir.

BLUBYYOU
04-29-2005, 12:16 PM
Calling the Cobalt a Cavaleir shows you have no brains....I would never drive a Cavaleir(soory,no offense to cavy owners) or a POS Neon. I test drove a Cobalt and it is no Cavaleir.
OK

I need to chime in here.
you are just as bad as him.
I like ss's and I haven't driven one yet, but I have respect.

you have none.
maybe it's immaturity, I don't know, but learn how to spell and watch out what you say about POS neons.

NoMSG
04-29-2005, 12:28 PM
It's even worse when the word is spelled correctly one post up. :lol:

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 12:39 PM
no offense to any ss owners, but I think its just not fast enough. 14.7 quarter mile? My plan is to wait for the 2.4L SS option & install a turbo.
Yes, it would be aftermarket and even more expensive than the SRT-4, but with the better handling of the SS, the neons would be standing still.

Yeah because I've seen so many races on the streets go around turns. :confused:

maverick007
04-29-2005, 12:44 PM
Sorry about my spelling , genius(I type fast,and dont check).....but you could spellcheck evey thread on this site,
and a Neon IS a pos.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 12:54 PM
So is the Cobalt. The SRT4> SS

maverick007
04-29-2005, 01:02 PM
So is the Cobalt. The SRT4> SS

Then why are you getting a Cobalt, don't contradict yourself.

bikeluver43
04-29-2005, 01:21 PM
When did I say I was buying a Cobalt?

mm_omega2
04-29-2005, 02:13 PM
I would like to see someone trade out that supercharger and throw in a turbo to see what the ecotec can do....the way it should have been, im sure someone will soon.
I just think it's chevy and ford have always been the big domestic, gonna stick with a supercharger to make real power type of companies, dodge on the other hand has had quite a few turbo cars and has their hands in with mitsubishi who has the evo and in the pat the ecplise turbos that sold plenty so naturally I would expect a turbo from them.

As for the whole cavalier/neon kiddy name calling B.S. call them what they have writtin on them, it's a cobalt ss and an srt-4... if you can find cavalier writtin anywhere on the cobalt let me know and if you find neon writtin on the srt-4 let me know then you have some legit reason for trying to cause tension by name calling, cause that's all it is.
I don't hear people saying I raced and beat a Lancer when speaking of the EVO, or I saw this wicked turbo Impreza reving at me.

cop tzer
04-29-2005, 03:59 PM
and a Neon IS a pos.

wow you're ignorant... you'll learn eventually. Would you care to elaborate on just how the "neon" is a POS??

Dark Syde SRT-4
04-29-2005, 04:09 PM
i am actually thinking of getting a cobalt ss for the wife as i think i have scared her with my SRT lol. we will see... anyway i going to decide around the 20th i will keep all of you posted. also for you cobalt ss people i am working on my vendor status here (i am a vendor and mod on srtforums.com) i will be here to offer your aftermarket HID's for your vehicles :)

BlackSkittle
04-29-2005, 06:40 PM
Sorry to Troll, but the SRT4.....gotta love the sound of that turbo spooling!

ftbraggsrt4
04-29-2005, 07:39 PM
mm omega2, i see what you are talking about the neon/srt thing. I have been a neon enthusiast since 97 and the srt is a neon. just different engine, tranny, suspension and some interior stuff. There is no shame in clling it a Neon.

on the other hand when asked what i drive i say SRT to those enthusiast that know about cars and dont care what you drive. when asked by others i say neon. They get confused when i say srt( even the dealership)

CoBIZZLE
04-29-2005, 08:35 PM
mm omega2, i see what you are talking about the neon/srt thing. I have been a neon enthusiast since 97 and the srt is a neon. just different engine, tranny, suspension and some interior stuff. There is no shame in clling it a Neon.

on the other hand when asked what i drive i say SRT to those enthusiast that know about cars and dont care what you drive. when asked by others i say neon. They get confused when i say srt( even the dealership)
EXACTLY what I was gettin at. Agree majorly!!!^^^
Thats like the whole Camaro to Z28 thing or Mustang to Cobra like I mentioned earlier.

87camaroPA
04-29-2005, 09:09 PM
i am actually thinking of getting a cobalt ss for the wife as i think i have scared her with my SRT lol. we will see... anyway i going to decide around the 20th i will keep all of you posted. also for you cobalt ss people i am working on my vendor status here (i am a vendor and mod on srtforums.com) i will be here to offer your aftermarket HID's for your vehicles :)

Awsome looking forward to see some of your products and welcome to the site.
And about that Neon stuff people will say the same thing with the Cobalt's.

Vooduguru
05-02-2005, 01:05 PM
SRT-4's are teh fastarst cars evar!!! (Cobalt 2nd fastest;) )

sphipps
05-02-2005, 01:06 PM
SRT-4's are teh fastarst cars evar!!! (Cobalt 2nd fastest;) )

Yeah...just ask any SRT-4 owner...they will tell you the exact same thing.

I am proud to annouce that I have the SLOWEST SRT-4 in New England...so there. :D

87camaroPA
05-02-2005, 04:42 PM
Yeah...just ask any SRT-4 owner...they will tell you the exact same thing.

I am proud to annouce that I have the SLOWEST SRT-4 in New England...so there. :D

Why because you broke it? ;) :p LOL J/K

BLUBYYOU
05-02-2005, 05:33 PM
Sorry about my spelling , genius(I type fast,and dont check).....but you could spellcheck evey thread on this site,
and a Neon IS a pos.

:rolleyes:
wow, you are original.

I like my pos neon, it's cheap and fast, and that's what I wanted for daily driver. :D

You must have been stomped by one to have so much animosity towards them. awwwww.

CoBIZZLE
05-02-2005, 09:58 PM
I tend to like both cars and think both are fast and think neither of the two are P.O.S.'s. Why argue over this seriously, its been goin on since the announcement of the SS's release!

Oh and BLUBYYOU, is that Blew By You or Blue Bayou? or both???

87camaroPA
05-02-2005, 10:00 PM
I agree^^^^^ i am the same i do not think they are POS's and that they are both fast or are going to fast very soon.

maverick007
05-03-2005, 07:02 AM
:rolleyes:
wow, you are original.

I like my pos neon, it's cheap and fast, and that's what I wanted for daily driver. :D

You must have been stomped by one to have so much animosity towards them. awwwww.


WOW, Blew-you, you are witty.

sphipps
05-03-2005, 08:55 AM
Why because you broke it? ;) :p LOL J/K

No...I don't think I know how to drive it...LOL

87camaroPA
05-03-2005, 02:26 PM
No...I don't think I know how to drive it...LOL


Yeah if you learn how to drive it that might help. LOL :D

BLUBYYOU
05-03-2005, 04:15 PM
I tend to like both cars and think both are fast and think neither of the two are P.O.S.'s. Why argue over this seriously, its been goin on since the announcement of the SS's release!

Oh and BLUBYYOU, is that Blew By You or Blue Bayou? or both???

It's just blue by you -e.
cobalts and neons are econoboxes.
anyone who doesn't believe that, needs to wake up.
the performance versions are exactly that. performance econoboxes.
with that said, I like the work that ss and srt have put into these cars.
they have been nothing but serious about bringing these cars to
market and offering up support for the aftermarket. :D
WOW, Blew-you, you are witty.
and you are not.
it's just the internet, don't get your panties in a bunch.
zzzzz :rolleyes:

henni002
05-03-2005, 05:46 PM
I own a 2004 srt-4 my best stock run ever was 5.8, 13.9 1/4 @ 100. This is my everyday car and I am not a pro. The ss cobalt has a lot of catching up to do.... I've at best seen in the 2005 feb issue of car and driver a 6.1, 14.7 1/4 @ 97. 2004 Apr the srt-4 ran 5.3, 13.8 1/4 @ 103. Im still waiting on a race.........Stay tuned for additional mods and vids!! :cool:

CoBIZZLE
05-03-2005, 09:40 PM
Well I've seen better times than that. 14.7 is the WORST realistic number that I've seen. I think it MAY have been Motor Trend that pulled a 14.3, I'll check. Everything else I've seen has been right around 14.5. And some stupid mag claimed like a 15.3, yeah maybe if their dead great great grandmother was driving the car.

maverick007
05-04-2005, 07:30 AM
and you are not.
it's just the internet, don't get your panties in a bunch.
zzzzz :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Read previous posts....who's pantys are in a bunch? :confused:

BLUBYYOU
05-04-2005, 10:32 AM
Read previous posts....who's pantys are in a bunch? :confused:[/QUOTE]



I would say you do, since you still don't have your car. :(

anyway,
have a nice day. :)

ITS SLOW
05-05-2005, 03:47 PM
I can't believe i read the entire thread. A few things I'd like to say.
1. Not all neon guys are dicks, so please don't be closed minded into thinking we are.
2. I'm here on this forum to LEARN about my closest competitor, NOT to bash it.
3. All of us ( most anyway ) are here because we love cars. It saddens me that so many are caught up in "mine is better."
4. *hugs* for everybody. I'd love to see the 2 communities come together and have GROUP meets. I'm down for meeting up with any local SS owner down here in FL.

WeTWoRKS
05-05-2005, 04:43 PM
So, what's the answer to the original question?
(hint... domestic, inline 4, econo car)

CoBIZZLE
05-05-2005, 08:33 PM
The answer is your own opinion. Each car excels in its own ways, you have to choose which fits you best. Happy shoppin all... :D

87camaroPA
05-05-2005, 08:53 PM
The answer is your own opinion. Each car excels in its own ways, you have to choose which fits you best. Happy shoppin all... :D

Yeah that is the jist of it i mean what ever you like is the one you like and each to there own. :)

mm_omega2
05-05-2005, 10:38 PM
This entire thread is opinionated anyway, both have great qualities. The ignorant neon owners (not all of them) should take a back seat and let the big boys talk for a while, stop whining.....there are way too many very young, very immature, very inexperienced drivers out there with an SRT that think they are a top fuel dragster driving down the middle of town, with their mouths coming in a close second to the speed of the car.
SS guys probably aren't going to do too much right out the gate because there are so many modded SRT's running around, finding a stock v. stock race is going to be tough. Oh yeah then wait for the lovely comments you'll receive from a majority of the 16-21 yr old SRT drivers if you lose, or win for that matter....most too proud to take a loss and leave.
The only bad thing I saw from Chevy here was that they did not use a turbo, well to me it was bad. Much rather have a turbo cobalt than a super.
Only time will tell, it's stil early to gauge how well the SS will do.

87camaroPA
05-05-2005, 11:00 PM
Yeah i know what you are saying but i think it was a smart move but i like supercharger's. But anyway i know we will have a hard time for a wile but soon the parts will come pooring in.

mm_omega2
05-05-2005, 11:04 PM
Yeah... I know modernperformance is a majority contributor to the SRT-4 aftermarket world, so hopefully soon they will also be a leader in parts for the SS. We need some more supporting vendors here.

87camaroPA
05-05-2005, 11:11 PM
Yeah there are some more like Rev it up motorsports.

Ferndogg
05-06-2005, 12:08 AM
Im a chevy guy with an srt. I love my srt but if i would have gotten a cobalt im sure i would have loved it the same. I really love both. srt and cobalt owners should stick together domestic car are better the thos POS ricers. Cobalt, redlind and srt guys should all be a group. Atleast thats what i think.

87camaroPA
05-06-2005, 12:13 AM
Im a chevy guy with an srt. I love my srt but if i would have gotten a cobalt im sure i would have loved it the same. I really love both. srt and cobalt owners should stick together domestic car are better the thos POS ricers. Cobalt, redlind and srt guys should all be a group. Atleast thats what i think.

Heck yeah.
Form an alinance. LOL :D

NIVO88T
05-06-2005, 12:15 AM
I like them both equally. also like the redline but since we have the SRT-4 and it's easy to extract power i say SRt-4.

But there also is the issue with the srt-4 being produced for a short time.

CoBIZZLE
05-06-2005, 12:19 AM
Yeah whats the deal with that?!?! They make a badass neon that sells like wildfire and a few short years later, they scrap it all together for a "Caliber" ???????

87camaroPA
05-06-2005, 12:20 AM
Yeah i saw that that really sucks.

CoBIZZLE
05-06-2005, 12:22 AM
And that Caliber from what Ive seen is a really lame duck compared to the SRT-4. Even if there is an SRT-4 Caliber it still wont look as hot as the Neon.

87camaroPA
05-06-2005, 12:23 AM
And that Caliber from what Ive seen is a really lame duck compared to the SRT-4. Even if there is an SRT-4 Caliber it still wont look as hot as the Neon.


Yeap it will have nothing on the Neon.

Ferndogg
05-06-2005, 01:09 AM
Heck yeah.
Form an alinance. LOL :D

Thats what im talking about. :D

CoBIZZLE
05-06-2005, 01:14 AM
^^^ Agreed. Ive been sayin that all along. I have nothin against imports, thay add variety (off the week) but they have been too dominant in the past in the sport compact scene, thats why the dom. market needs to step it up!

Ferndogg
05-06-2005, 01:24 AM
^^^ Agreed. Ive been sayin that all along. I have nothin against imports, thay add variety (off the week) but they have been too dominant in the past in the sport compact scene, thats why the dom. market needs to step it up!

Hell yeah a group of SRT's, Cobalts, and Redline's rolling together be bad ass. I myself do hate the imports.

jaguar
05-06-2005, 01:10 PM
And that Caliber from what Ive seen is a really lame duck compared to the SRT-4. Even if there is an SRT-4 Caliber it still wont look as hot as the Neon.


The Caliber Roadster is gonna be the shit. I will trade my SRT wuicker than you can say Betty Boop if they pull through on this.

Turbo 4 cylinder
RWD
Convertible
280 HP?!?!
Around 20k...

Going off the Razor design, this car would be sick.

kurt
05-07-2005, 06:46 AM
I wanted a SRT-4 for a long time and then I saw the cobalt ss was coming out, so I decided to see which would best fit me. Well I have driven both and looked into both a lot, and IMO I was dissapointed with the cobalt ss. I waited half a year for a car that cost more than the srt-4, is slower, has no lsd stock, no mods from chevy under warrenty, and will never get the gains a turbo does. I would rather go with a car that has plain interior and a lot of performance for the money. I think Im going to go with a SRT-4 and Im a chevy guy, but until chevy steps it up Im going with the dodge. Also Im not knocking the cobalt, just money wise the srt-4 is a perfomance best buy and a cobalt is not. Too bad because I really liked the outside of the cobalt.

ITS SLOW
05-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Starts chant " alliance alliance alliance " :)

bikeluver43
05-09-2005, 04:46 PM
Hey guys, I haven't posted in a bit but I have a serious question. I've already found that the SRT4 is a great car, but its lacking in one area that I consider to be very important-Gas Mileage. Granted it gets decent gas mileage, but its range is poor. I'm about to start a job where there will be a lot of driving and need a car that can go a week without needing to fill up 3 times (of course driver input varies this number). So I must ask:
How large of a tank is there on the CobaltSS?
What is the typical gas mileage you are seeing?
Whats the typical range you are seeing?
What does it cost to fill her up?

Thanks for the input, and sorry for get back ON track with this thread. But I just realized I have $1000+/- in GM bucks from my GM card that can go to a new GM Car, so I need to consider the SS for a purchase.

DigDug
05-13-2005, 07:41 PM
13 gallons according to the Chevy website. Probably 300-350 miles per tank (if you run it dry) in mixed driving.

I am considering getting either an SRT-4 or a Cobalt SS as a commuter car with the occasional longer trip. I run a Caprice for most of my long distance driving (work has me traveling quite a bit) and I like the big, comfy car.

I like the idea of the SRT-4 as a turbo obviously puts out more net power per psig of boost, not a big fan of wasting most of the (extra) power driving a superchager, but the lack of available cruise control on the SRT and the more (relatively) luxurious interior of the Cobalt coupled with a lower interior noise level has me leaning 90% of the way towards the Chevy.

For me, I will be happy trading a bit of power for a bit of refinement and comfort.

-D

mm_omega2
05-14-2005, 01:53 AM
Either way, unless you plan on buying an SRT-4 within the next month or plan on buying a used one, then get a CobaltSS. Production on the SRT-4 is about to go by-by. People do seem to complain about the SRT/neon interior quite a bit but that is jsut preference, it does what it should in a performance vehicle...it works. I am a pretty big guy @ 6'3" 210lbs and I fit comfortably in the SRT-4 seats, even on my trips that may last to around 6hrs. Interior noise???? I must be going deaf or I am just used to the sound of louder vehicles with little to no muffler, because I have an aftermarket exhaust louder than stock and at driving speeds the sound all but dissapears. Why buy a vehicle with no mufflers if you don't plan on hearing the exhaust? At least a little.
Fuel mileage.....up until I got my recall done was very lacking. We were lucky to get around 200 miles per tank, ...thanks to a leaking fuel line as well, after fuel line and recall fix, 300+ per tank when getting into boost quite a bit also. The turbo lag everyone w/o an SRT seems to cry about...almost non-existent.
Cruise control on the SRT-4 can be installed relatively easy.

On the other hand not to trying and put the SRT-4 on a pedastal and crap on the Cobalt. Just answering a few questions. Hopefully more people buy the Cobalt anyway. There are too many SRT's on the streets as it is.:D

SRT THIS
05-14-2005, 02:56 AM
I drive 100 miles everyday and fill up every 3 days with $24 bucks.

mm_omega2
05-14-2005, 04:27 AM
Yeah we went from $80/ week on gas down to about $30, just after the recall and fuel line prob.

DigDug
05-14-2005, 06:29 AM
Either way, unless you plan on buying an SRT-4 within the next month or plan on buying a used one, then get a CobaltSS. Production on the SRT-4 is about to go by-by.
<snip>
Cruise control on the SRT-4 can be installed relatively easy.
.:D

I was under the impression that the Neon platform was continuing for another year and a half and the SRT-4 was going to remain until then as well. So there are not going to be any '06 models produced?

If you can get me information on a couple of people who have actually modified a cruise control to fit an SRT-4 that would be great! When I checked on it last year, Dodge had still not made one and the Neon CC could not be made to fit the altered throttle linkage. I would love to talk to someone who has made one work.

Sadly, my days of liking a mind-numbingly loud exhaust are behind me (on a daily driver). Sucks to get old...not that I feel that way really, just surprising sometimes when that middle-aged dude looks back at me in the mirror.

But I would have no trouble putting a more restrictive exhaust on an SRT-4, I am not worried about being the fastest guy on the block, just want a fun little commuter car and both these vehicles are cheap and fun.

mm_omega2
05-14-2005, 07:30 AM
I hear that....give me about an hour or so and I will have you the info for the cruise control.
Yeah the neon platform is ending this year, so no '06's. The SRT-4 platform is supposed to be coming back in 2007 with a joint effort with Mitsubishi and Dodge.
No name for certain but it is supposed to be based off of the Lancer. So look for a Dodge Lancer EVO X SRT-4 whatcha-ma-calit.
For the exhaust one of our vendors here sells some newer resonators made to cut down on the stock exhaust if you fill fit. Modern Performance
Here. (http://www.modernperformance.com/all/resonators.shtml)

New Edit:
Ok found the CC info a little faster than I thought. Here's what you need and the website along with a post from srtforums from someone that has installed it, quite a few others have used the same kit and so far I have yet to see anyone complain about it.

You will want the electronic CC, not the vacuum.

Rostra Universal Global Cruise Kit Part # 250-1223
Rostra Control Switch (stalk) Part # 250-3421
Rostra Universal Disengagement Switch Part # 250-4206

The company as you can see if Rostra, I don't think you can buy directly from them but I found a distributer for the parts. Just look through their list and match up the part numbers.
http://www.brandondist.com/products/cruise.htm

...and last but not least the post from someone with install pics.
http://www.srt4forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136989&highlight=cruise+control
scroll down to post #6

DigDug
05-14-2005, 09:12 AM
New Edit:
Ok found the CC info a little faster than I thought. Here's what you need and the website along with a post from srtforums from someone that has installed it, quite a few others have used the same kit and so far I have yet to see anyone complain about it.

You will want the electronic CC, not the vacuum.

Rostra Universal Global Cruise Kit Part # 250-1223
Rostra Control Switch (stalk) Part # 250-3421
Rostra Universal Disengagement Switch Part # 250-4206

The company as you can see if Rostra, I don't think you can buy directly from them but I found a distributer for the parts. Just look through their list and match up the part numbers.
http://www.brandondist.com/products/cruise.htm

...and last but not least the post from someone with install pics.
http://www.srt4forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136989&highlight=cruise+control
scroll down to post #6

Thanks a bunch! I will look into it and I guess I will have to make my pick pretty quick then.

CoBIZZLE
05-14-2005, 01:41 PM
Well what about the new ACR Neon?? I thought they were supposed to release an ACR package w/ smaller wheels, less luxuries, SRT engine, etc??? Did that ever hit the streets??? Or was it canceled?!?! and if so then WHY??!??!

mm_omega2
05-14-2005, 02:05 PM
It has already been released... a few months ago actually.
This year at the SRT Nationals, the stock ACR overtook a track prepped corvette with a good driver on the road course. It is definetly a car worth buying.

My_slo_n3on
05-14-2005, 08:38 PM
If you are looking at buying a new SS or SRT, go test drive both thoroughly! Everyone has a different opinion. SRT owners are going to say SRT's and SS owners......you get the point. Both have or will have insane mods available. I love turbo's and my 8.0:1 compression that my SRT has. I also love the whine of a supercharger. GO DRIVE THEM!!!!
Peace,
Eric

VeloSSity
05-14-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm at the age where class matters to me more than speed. Class is an intangible quality in a car, and it isn't something you can see on the stop watch, or feel in the interior... class is something you can really only get a feel for by looking at the people's reactions when you pull up to the Valet in front of the restaurant or nightclub. As much as I love speed and sheer performance, I would take a BMW 765Li way before I would take a Corvette Z06, even though the Vette would stomp the Bimmer in every performance category.

There is no subsititute for class. The Cobalt has it. The Neon does not.

Zenkat
05-15-2005, 02:06 AM
Neither of those cars has the "class" you speak of. Our family now owns both, and having driven the Cobalt all night tonight, i can see the +'s and -'s much more clearly.

GM basically sacrificed a bit of performance, and added in a tad of luxury, for about the same price as the SRT. By no means is the Cobalt a classy car. Sexy yes, classy no.

Things i didnt like in the Colbalt:
-No one touch open sunroof. and the button is very cheap up there. Pushes the whole ceiling up when youre messing with it.
-No armrest.
-Gearshift has more play than the SRT, but goes into the gears pretty solidly.
-E-brake looks like it was molded for preschoolers.
-The gauges are a little high, meaning i have to leave the wheel a little high to see them clearly.
-2 door, obvious issues associated with that.
-It's slower than an SRT, plain and simple, but everyone knows that, and its by no means "slow"
-That wing.... it is in the EXACT spot to block as much rear view as possible. An inch higher or lower and it would be fine.

Things i really liked:
-The looks! That car looks so dam good in black. (just needs some eyelids or something for those gigantor headlights)
-Those wheels! absolutely love those 18" things and the meat wrapped around them.
-The seats are nice and comfy, definitely a plus. More adjustable too. Not as side-bolstered, but theyre not the Recaros's so thats expected.
-XM satellite radio is freakin awesome with that Pioneer system, and woofer.
-cruise control, how i missed thee (big +)
-Info center. Quite a useful thing on most GM cars.
-Sounds are on the plus side, but I wish i could hear the supercharger whine more. Needs more exhaust note too, but its not shabby stock.
-OnStar, i guess thats a +, even though ive never used it in any of our GM cars we've had.
-Suspension seems pretty on par with the SRT in terms of firmness.
-Auto-down driver window at least.
-I like the gauge design too. Red and white, looks pretty good.

That about sums up what i noticed in the car. I like it, and i'm glad my brother picked it up. But i love my SRT too, for different reasons. Both are very nice cars, and i enjoy driving them both.

My_slo_n3on
05-15-2005, 02:13 AM
[/QUOTE]There is no subsititute for class. The Cobalt has it. The Neon does not.[/QUOTE]

That's your opinion. These are both $cheap$ cars. I agree that bimmers have class, but a cobalt...come on. A neon doesn't have class either. I hope people aren't buying these "domesticated imports" for class! You want class, go get a Bently! I love Mink carpet under my feet. Do you want pics? I'll be sure to post them. You can compare them to the Cobalt. If you are comparing the cobalt to your mothers Station Wagon, then yeah, it might have a little class. I bought my Neon for class! Our Bently is for the 1/4 mile!
No Offense
Eric

mm_omega2
05-15-2005, 07:05 AM
Yeah, the whole "class" thing is a funny conversation with econo cars. The only reason the SRT-4 or CSS broke the $20,000 mark was due to their performance parts definetly not due to their classiness.
I do not believe people are going to stand back in awe at a 5-star resteraunt when I will pull up in a SS or SRT. Then if they are impressed I am sure the rich and snotty will lose interest after they hear the price tag.
These are economy class performance cars. That's it. If you think otherwise you are lying to yourself.
So if you were a multimillionaire, would the Cobalt or SRT be the 'only' performance car you would buy?
I would have one as a play toy but definetly not be my main car, because it isn't classy enough.

VeloSSity
05-15-2005, 09:21 AM
So if you were a multimillionaire, would the Cobalt or SRT be the 'only' performance car you would buy?
I would have one as a play toy but definetly not be my main car, because it isn't classy enough.

I agree. Everything it relative... I suppose what I should have said was that in comparison to each other -- the Cobalt is a classier car.

I would love to have a Cobalt SS for a daily driver for my Z06 some day...
:cool:

VeloSSity
05-15-2005, 09:24 AM
-That wing.... it is in the EXACT spot to block as much rear view as possible. An inch higher or lower and it would be fine.


If I am to buy this car... my first mod... before it even leaves the dealer lot is the !wing mod. That thing will be off and replaced with the LS spoiler.

DigDug
05-15-2005, 10:53 AM
If I am to buy this car... my first mod... before it even leaves the dealer lot is the !wing mod. That thing will be off and replaced with the LS spoiler.

I hear you on that one!

GM needs to offer the drivetrain/suspension/wheels WITHOUT the various claddings/wing. All that stuff does is add weight and draw attention to you. I want to blend in to the background.

01CBR929
05-15-2005, 04:40 PM
I agree with the others, drive both... I came from a Sentra SE-R Spec V. I was thinking about the Ion Redline at the time as well as the SRT-4. The interior of the ION to me was nasty... I couldn't stand the center of the dash gauge cluster, I'd almost think it was made for drivers ed. The Cobalt wasn't out at the time, however the wing didn't fit my fancy, nore the redline, or the SRT-4's for that matter. I choose the SRT-4 and I don't regret it, you already have seen the potential of the drivetrain if you've researched it, as well as mopar offering they're own line of performance goodies. I like the looks of the cobalt, its a nice looking car. As for me not liking my wing either... thats ok, its going to be disappearing soon, as I have a regular neon trunk lid in need of paint before I swap them out :) . I also didn't care for the huge side bolsters of the stock srt-4 seats(as far as daily driving, which I do most, however I miss them during spirited driving), so I got the seats that have the side impact air bags within them... and they're very comfy in comparison to the others, and not a bad investment given its a compact. I have several performance mods, and when I had it put on the dyno last... I got 243whp and 263wtq, not much more HP than the ION/Cobalt... but the torque is fun, no need to drop a gear to get some pulling power. But really I can see why people would choose a Cobalt, with the SRT-4 you loose some street civility. If you are going to keep a car stock... I'd say it would be fairly hard to choose... but if you're into modding your cars... I'd say the SRT-4 is a better choice(not to say the cobalt won't have more parts in the future). Thats my 2 cents.

87camaroPA
05-15-2005, 08:40 PM
Basicly the last 20 pages are just saying drive them both and see which one of them you like the best and go from there when it is time to decide.

Schnitz
05-16-2005, 02:01 PM
Howdy, I'm a newbie here.. and yes I drive an SRT. But I actually came just to kinda see what the SS is all about. I must say I'm impressed with how well all the SRT/Cobalt owners are sticking together... as someone earlier put it's us vs the imports!!

I'll also admit that the SS sounds like a hell of a car.. if I didn't end up gettin an '05 SRT, I would be buying the SS... Can't wait to see a few more of them on the road!

87camaroPA
05-16-2005, 05:32 PM
Welcome to the site. :)

mm_omega2
05-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Welcome also, hopefully soon the SS members will outnumber the SRT-4 members, lol.

87camaroPA
05-16-2005, 09:57 PM
LOL hopefully soon.

mm_omega2
05-16-2005, 10:19 PM
If Chevy will turn up production on these so people can get their hands on them. Or either Chevy is producing only so many at first to get the demand higher, then start pumping them out and everyone will have one.

Schnitz
05-17-2005, 09:26 AM
So has anyone done anything much to their Cobalt yet, any mods or dress up?? Not sure if there is much out there yet for parts.. but it would be interesting to see some pics of any modded ones. I've only seen pics of them on the floor or in mags, so completely stock.

Or even the Redline for that matter.... thats a sharp ride to with a lot of potential..

87camaroPA
05-17-2005, 01:32 PM
There are more perfomance mods out but not to many people have done any thing to there SS's. But i have seen a Redline lowered and exhaust.

Sp00ner
05-17-2005, 03:34 PM
There are actually quite a few things for the Redline, at least.

You have to shop a bit for them, but from what I can see, you should be able to get around 40 hp from bolt ons right now. The Psi-Fi guys have an upgrade for the supercharger, 18 psi baby, that should be out anyday now...

CoBIZZLE
05-17-2005, 03:55 PM
what up spooner?? Are they advertisin it yet?? Price range??

dojaman666
05-18-2005, 11:17 AM
Heh, yeah, you could say we're. . . . "around." :cool:


Yeah were everywhere.....
I am one of the srt4 members who actually like the cobalt.....

dazednconfused75
05-18-2005, 01:44 PM
what up spooner?? Are they advertisin it yet?? Price range??


$700-$800 Those will include some of the parts needed for the twincharger too.

CoBIZZLE
05-18-2005, 02:41 PM
Bet that! Thats awesome news! Wont they have to drop the psi from the s/c to twin charge it though??!?!

Capone_SS
05-18-2005, 08:30 PM
01CBR929 said that you don't have to drop down a gear to get the pulley power out of the SRT, is that true for the SS too? I have been wanting to know this for a while.

CoBIZZLE
05-18-2005, 09:38 PM
Pulley power?!?! From an SRT??? Did he mean pulling power?!?!? If so then no you wont have to down shift. That is one thing that I have heard that IS better than the SRT, throttle/boost response, they say the boost on the SS is IMMEDIATE!!!

mm_omega2
05-19-2005, 08:44 AM
just choose between 2 door or 4 door which is better for you. If you don't mind either one, flip a coin. You will be happy with your choice. It's too much to pick and choose between the too.

CoBIZZLE
05-19-2005, 11:29 AM
just choose between 2 door or 4 door which is better for you. If you don't mind either one, flip a coin. You will be happy with your choice. It's too much to pick and choose between the too.
Well said, everybody has their own opinion, so decide based on your own.