Last night, at one spot that usually draws maybe 30-40 cars, there had to be 100 people. I got to run a turbo'd 240sx, starlet swapped Tercel, and a 02 Sentra Spec-v with a huge 80-trim turbo. I beat all three, one at a time. After the last run, there was a crowd of people following me asking what i had done to it and what is it. I had to leave before i could get anyone else, but my mission to kill turbo cars is well underway. Now all i need is some Nos, and i'll start having some real fun.

haha man thats kinda funny because i raced a 240 sx too but i dont have near the mods you got and i got killed by him...also a turbocharged acura...all beat my ass but we will see about that when i start doin shit to my car

Yeah, the stage kit does wonders. And you gotta watch them turbo acuras. My friend with a turbo rsx destroyed me. At about 90 he caught back up and flew past me. His dad has another turbo RSX that puts out i think 560 to the wheels last time it was dynoed. Wheelspin at 100mph.

OH BOY :rolleyes:

OH BOY :rolleyes:
Is that your standard response to every topic?

OH BOY :rolleyes:


OH BROTHER :rolleyes:

I'd run you, but you're too far away :p

naw just my response to guys in slow cars talking like there fast. :eek:

:rolleyes: Oh Boy Indeed, ItalianJoe, what are you 16 years old. My mission in life is to kill Turbo cars, wow I would certainly hope you have more planned for your life then that.

naw just my response to guys in slow cars talking like there fast. :eek:


What do you have you dickbag....?

Hate to break it to you, but if your mission indeed was to kill Turbo cars then you should of bought a better supercharged car, because your Mission will be tough indeed, race all the Tercels (LOL) and Spec Vs you want, but when your ready to step up to the big boys let me know.

Hate to break it to you, but if your mission indeed was to kill Turbo cars then you should of bought a better supercharged car, because your Mission will be tough indeed, race all the Tercels (LOL) and Spec Vs you want, but when your ready to step up to the big boys let me know.

Do you have a 3000GT?

Dont get MAD. just get you a turrbo and you'll be fast to. Fucking turcel, you outta be ashamed to have posted that crap. Next thing you'll be bragging about outrunning geo metros. :p Oh and detroit tuner I drive a 12 second stage 2 srt-4.

Dont get MAD. just get you a turrbo and you'll be fast to. Fucking turcel, you outta be ashamed to have posted that crap. Next thing you'll be bragging about outrunning geo metros. :p Oh and detroit tuner I drive a 12 second stage 2 srt-4.


Shit so you're slow as well....

Hate to break it to you, but if your mission indeed was to kill Turbo cars then you should of bought a better supercharged car, because your Mission will be tough indeed, race all the Tercels (LOL) and Spec Vs you want, but when your ready to step up to the big boys let me know.


Pipe down Junior......

Ha Ha junior thats funny, I'm old enough to be your daddy........wait a minute what's your momma's name again.......BA HA HA HA HA

Ha Ha junior thats funny, I'm old enough to be your daddy........wait a minute what's your momma's name again.......BA HA HA HA HA


You have no idea whom your dealing with.... heh...


slowpoke...

just messing, settle down littleMt. you seem like you compensating for something with your big attitude ;)

just messing, settle down littleMt. you seem like you compensating for something with your big attitude ;)


As you were when you say you run a 12?


slow....

you should really listen to mt. not only listen, but respect as well.

and both of you newbs better tone your attitudes down if you want to stay here much longer.

naw just my response to guys in slow cars talking like there fast. :eek:
Don't start something you won't be able to finish here. I'm already to go whenever you want to start up.

Don't start something you won't be able to finish here. I'm already to go whenever you want to start up.


I can only try my best.....!

You guys are letting your inferiority complexes get in the way of your good time. When you post in a kill section you seriousally should expect a little flaming. This is the only forum i've seen (well this one and the srt-4 forum) where you get your panties all twisted. GTO guys laugh, Suby guys join in, EVO guys just snap back, you guys just pee your pants and pout. Now buck up little fella and start having fun :cool:

You guys are letting your inferiority complexes get in the way of your good time. When you post in a kill section you seriousally should expect a little flaming. This is the only forum i've seen (well this one and the srt-4 forum) where you get your panties all twisted. GTO guys laugh, Suby guys join in, EVO guys just snap back, you guys just pee your pants and pout. Now buck up little fella and start having fun :cool:

I am having fun...

daddy-o....

You guys are letting your inferiority complexes get in the way of your good time. When you post in a kill section you seriousally should expect a little flaming. This is the only forum i've seen (well this one and the srt-4 forum) where you get your panties all twisted. GTO guys laugh, Suby guys join in, EVO guys just snap back, you guys just pee your pants and pout. Now buck up little fella and start having fun :cool:Honda-Tech kills forums is awesome for flaming.

you should really listen to mt. not only listen, but respect as well.

You guys had better pay attention to iso. he's right about mt. i think mt is the only person that can run with my fiero gt, as far as i'm aware of.

oh, and mt...i wasn't referring my last comment to you. i know where you stand and won't even make stupid statements about speed and power to you. you're practically an expert, if not the expert, in the subject.

Now thats what i'm talkin about littlemt.

You guys had better pay attention to iso. he's right about mt. i think mt is the only person that can run with my fiero gt, as far as i'm aware of.

oh, and mt...i wasn't referring my last comment to you. i know where you stand and won't even make stupid statements about speed and power to you. you're practically an expert, if not the expert, in the subject.

It's all good daddy-o, I am very impressed with what you have done with your car.....

Nobody will see that coming....
I like that....

I've only listed the biggest mod. I can list a few more if you'd like.

I've only listed the biggest mod. I can list a few more if you'd like.


Heh, the biggest mod sez it all!

Yep, that's where you get the power from. But, power isn't anything if you can't get it to the ground or come to a stop. Especially in such a light car. I dynoed not too long ago and was getting 612hp, emissions legal up here. Also, I dropped a few hundred pounds when I switched to the aluminum blacked engine from the stock cast iron v6. I think with the upgraded suspension, tranny, brakes, etc. i netted a loss of 100-200lbs. that would make that car weigh as little as 2600 lbs. Not bad with a v8.

Dont get MAD. just get you a turrbo and you'll be fast to. Fucking turcel, you outta be ashamed to have posted that crap. Next thing you'll be bragging about outrunning geo metros. :p Oh and detroit tuner I drive a 12 second stage 2 srt-4.


one of the fastest cars i've ever seen was a turcel. mmmmmmm 8 second cars

Dude, I have seen chevette's at cecil county do 10's just drop in a worked 350, strip them down to the bone and go woop ass. Fast is justa matter of how much your willing to spend!!!!

Indeed, you can have fast, and luxury...

Cheap, Fast, Good, choose any two.

Except it cost over 100 grand.

just messing, settle down littleMt. you seem like you compensating for something with your big attitude ;)

I think you need to settle down newb.

FYI, does this look familiar? You should know since you own a SRT4.

http://www.hepcatradio.com/sig03.jpg

nice stickers, but means nothing to me. Are you supposed to be a legend somewhere??? :confused:

I like this image..

http://www.hepcatradio.com/srt60.jpg

nice stickers, but means nothing to me. Are you supposed to be a legend somewhere??? :confused:


Nope, just some lil ol nobody whom has a few lil ol neons....

80-trim turbo.

:confused:

there was a crowd of people following me asking what i had done to it and what is it.

Kinda like this guy and crowd?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/tfatf10.jpg

but my mission to kill turbo cars is well underway. Now all i need is some Nos, and i'll start having some real fun.

I think you need your head examined and to lay off the pipe. You goal in life is to kill turbo cars? My goal while driving is to put ricers such as yourself in place. :rolleyes:

FYI, it's called NITROUS or to abbreviate it, N20. Not Nos or nawwwwz. NOS is a company, not a gas. :cool:

nice stickers, but means nothing to me. Are you supposed to be a legend somewhere??? :confused:


poor newb never gets it :rolleyes:

I like this image..


I like this one better.... ;)

http://www.hepcatradio.com/dy9.jpg

Awesome graph,Killer numbers! Whats your best track run with that? orange i'll explain sarcasm to ya someday. OH BOY??

Awesome graph,Killer numbers! Whats your best track run with that? orange i'll explain sarcasm to ya someday. OH BOY??

I don't think she's ran it with the new set-up yet though I could be wrong. If so, please let em know MT.

No need to explain sarcasm to me. I don't see anywhere in your posts that you knew just who you were talking to. You were clueless and still might be. If your on srtforums and are neck deep into the car and forums, then you would of recognized the pic I posted or the car and also the numbers on the graph.

I don't think she's ran it with the new set-up yet though I could be wrong. If so, please let em know MT.

No need to explain sarcasm to me. I don't see anywhere in your posts that you knew just who you were talking to. You were clueless and still might be. If your on srtforums and are neck deep into the car and forums, then you would of recognized the pic I posted or the car and also the numbers on the graph.


I haven't ran her yet, I did purchase some better axels and a intermediate shaft, as the sock 03 stuff seemed to be getting tired....

LOL dude i've seen the photos before,I'm a Srt-4 forum member also I have gotten alot of useful info off of these forums and they probably have saved me a boat load of money with the tuneing tips alone. I'm on here to kill time at work and to have a little fun, thats all. But everyone should be able to take a little ballbusting without blowing a GASKET. If you check some of the other threads I even make fun of myself. Now with that said I was a teenager in the mid 80's when the IROC Z28 was king and a fast car was doing 16 second runs so you can imagine how much I love these cars of today. SRT-4, Cobalt, honda civic si's you name it their all a 1000 times cooler than anything I had to play with back in the day. So don't take a simple joke and lose your minds, :) PLEASE

WOOT!! My S-10 2.2L is slower than ALL of you so BOOYOW!!!!

LOL dude i've seen the photos before,I'm a Srt-4 forum member also I have gotten alot of useful info off of these forums and they probably have saved me a boat load of money with the tuneing tips alone. I'm on here to kill time at work and to have a little fun, thats all. But everyone should be able to take a little ballbusting without blowing a GASKET. If you check some of the other threads I even make fun of myself. Now with that said I was a teenager in the mid 80's when the IROC Z28 was king and a fast car was doing 16 second runs so you can imagine how much I love these cars of today. SRT-4, Cobalt, honda civic si's you name it their all a 1000 times cooler than anything I had to play with back in the day. So don't take a simple joke and lose your minds, :) PLEASE


How old are you if I can ask?

WOOT!! My S-10 2.2L is slower than ALL of you so BOOYOW!!!!


My 64 Tbird that weighs 4600lbs might have something to say about this..

http://www.hepcatradio.com/tbird2.jpg

Wow, im sorry guys. I was just joking around. Let me clarify a little. I have fun beating on turbo cars that are put together like shit and the owner thinks they have the fastest thing in the world. That would apply to all three cars I listed. Fucking relax. OJ, calm down bro. I know my car isn't as fast as yours, and it does not bother me at all. I always have fun when i go out, regardless. I didnt mean to cause so many problems.

Also, about the Tercel, that is more of a personal joke. I have two, a 93 and 94, and the guy with the turbo one works in the shop that my dad used to own. So i guess i need to explain everything more carefully or you guys get all upset.

Wow, im sorry guys. I was just joking around. Let me clarify a little. I have fun beating on turbo cars that are put together like shit and the owner thinks they have the fastest thing in the world. That would apply to all three cars I listed. Fucking relax. OJ, calm down bro. I know my car isn't as fast as yours, and it does not bother me at all. I always have fun when i go out, regardless. I didnt mean to cause so many problems.


Heh, you go ItalianJoe!!!!!

I have killed many a lesser car... hey, they challenged me..... and I gave it to them!

everyone should be able to take a little ballbusting


That don't work with me...

I'm the youngest 39 yr old you'll ever meet little :D And yes girls in their 20's still thing I'm sooooooooo hot! Alright kiddies I'm off to watch tokyo drift enjoy the rest of your day. :o

I'm the youngest 39 yr old you'll ever meet little :D And yes girls in their 20's still thing I'm sooooooooo hot! Alright kiddies I'm off to watch tokyo drift enjoy the rest of your day. :o
You're gonna pay money to watch that?

What's so great about that movie? Not even the american car in the movie is american. it has a nissan engine.

Ok so nothing american??? Big deal are you trying to tell me if it's not american it sucks?? Movie was pretty good, if your a car guy (or Girl) you should find something to like about it.

Ok so nothing american??? Big deal are you trying to tell me if it's not american it sucks?? Movie was pretty good, if your a car guy (or Girl) you should find something to like about it.
And that you are right. Don't get your panties all bunched up. I'm just pointing out that again great american cars are left out of a car movie. just like in the first one. the mustang is powered by a nissan engine. what gives? american cars have the best rwd and big v8's. americans hae been doing it longer than anybody else. don't you lhink the american cars should have some sort of showing?

yea I guess, what ever, they had american cars in all 3 movies, mostly dodges, a yenko camaro & a gtx in part 3. They also had an awesome opening seen in tokyo drift with a viper taking on an old school monte carlo. Probably the most intense seen in the movie! they just weren't the focal point of the movie. Didn't really matter to me. When I look at a 350z or a Supra I see a cool car. I don't really care it's made by nissan, or toyota.

where? the first movie had a lightning hauling stuff, not racing. and the dodge at the end was totaled by a train. that was it for the first movie. the second did have a lot more respect for the americans having a major role. I agree that the 350z and supra are beautiful, but if you're going to film a rwd car movie shouldn't there be more focus on american rwd with big v8's like the yenko camaro? I just believe that its another thing that sells the folklore that asian cars are supposedly better than american cars. just my opinion though. and i understand why there were more asian cars. the movie's setting was tokyo, which is where drifting is huge. even bigger than in the states. but it wouldn't be too hard to get more american cars involved since the military practically owns okinawa which isn't too far from tokyo. we all know that american military personnel ship their cars with them in most cases. so that would have been believable. just my 2 cents though.

sooooo I guess your not going to see this one??? lol :D

where? the first movie had a lightning hauling stuff, not racing. and the dodge at the end was totaled by a train. that was it for the first movie. the second did have a lot more respect for the americans having a major role. I agree that the 350z and supra are beautiful, but if you're going to film a rwd car movie shouldn't there be more focus on american rwd with big v8's like the yenko camaro? I just believe that its another thing that sells the folklore that asian cars are supposedly better than american cars. just my opinion though. and i understand why there were more asian cars. the movie's setting was tokyo, which is where drifting is huge. even bigger than in the states. but it wouldn't be too hard to get more american cars involved since the military practically owns okinawa which isn't too far from tokyo. we all know that american military personnel ship their cars with them in most cases. so that would have been believable. just my 2 cents though.

the day i see a yenko camaro drift will surely be a day of reckoning, i can tell you that. big heavy american rwd v8 cars do not make for good drift cars.

FWD != driftable.

ISO, are you the red stage 2 car I raced at atco and then talked to after??? Last friday?

I don't think she's ran it with the new set-up yet though I could be wrong. If so, please let em know MT.

No need to explain sarcasm to me. I don't see anywhere in your posts that you knew just who you were talking to. You were clueless and still might be. If your on srtforums and are neck deep into the car and forums, then you would of recognized the pic I posted or the car and also the numbers on the graph.

Edited, not needed

ISO, are you the red stage 2 car I raced at atco and then talked to after??? Last friday?

i wasn't at atco last friday. didn't it rain last friday? i was there this past friday (yesterday), but i didn't talk to anyone nor am i stage 2. what did the stage 2 guy run? i only cut a 15.0 last night and my trap speed was the worst it's ever been. not a good night for me.

sooooo I guess your not going to see this one??? lol :D
if i do it'll be in the dollar theater or i'll wait til video and rent it, don't know. but definitely won't pay $7.50 for it.

OK cool, Noticed you were from jersey also. I ran a stage 2 cobalt that hit a 14.1. Dude driving was pretty cool. I was curious why his car was faster than the other cobalts I've raced so he popped the hood & let me have a look. Said he had exhaust work also. wanted to race him after I seen him smoke a 350Z.

nice. yea we usually get there around 8:30 pm cuz me and most of my buddies work on friday so we have to wait til everyone gets done and then we head to atco.

OJ, calm down bro. I know my car isn't as fast as yours, and it does not bother me at all. I always have fun when i go out, regardless. I didnt mean to cause so many problems.

It's all good Joe. I was having a rough day that day :cool:

FWD != driftable.


Yup :D

Go Dale Go! :D :D

http://home.comcast.net/~rockoutwithyourcockout/daledrift99.gif

Have you seen the new GTO drift car (not new, but I mean the current, not the old school)? Any car can be lightened.... and Im sure most cars can be made to drift....Hell I can "drift" (lol) my 4 banger S-10 if its wet.... :rollseyes:

and Im sure most cars can be made to drift....

Any car can slide yes but drifting is left to the RWD and AWD crowd. The only drifting your going to be doing in FWD is if you enter a turn too hot and the backend comes out. Must correct without overcorrecting the spin to regain control. It's not really "drifting" persay as opposed to powersliding I'd say. The pic I included above is of Dale Seeley at One Lap last year entering a turn at triple digit speeds. A little too hot to make the turn so the backend came out. Dale is a awesome competitative driver and was able to make it look easy-peezy ala...drift ;)


When you spin the wheels on FWD, it pushes. There is no control. So in order to drift like RWD or AWD guys do you'd have to be e-braking everywhere where as RWD and AWD usually only e-brake to initiate the drift. To continue the drift seemlessly they use throttle and power to spin the wheels to finish off the turn. You can't do this technique with FWD. It would eaither grab and hook rather than spin around the turn or it would push to the outside whilst spinning the tires in smoke.

My 64 Tbird that weighs 4600lbs might have something to say about this..

http://www.hepcatradio.com/tbird2.jpg
eeehhhhhhhh... its probably STILL faster than my S-10.. LOL :o

http://cscvidz.com


go to srt drift videos. bwahahahaha

i can drift my cobalt. as long as there is a fast food place open and they have some plastic trays i can borrow :D

I watch drifting every weekend sometimes twice at the local dirt track.

theres a drift track? damn ricers :p

I'm the youngest 39 yr old you'll ever meet little :D And yes girls in their 20's still thing I'm sooooooooo hot! Alright kiddies I'm off to watch tokyo drift enjoy the rest of your day. :o



I don't think your hot at all....a bit on the small side but not at all hot.....j/k

Last night, at one spot that usually draws maybe 30-40 cars, there had to be 100 people. I got to run a turbo'd 240sx, starlet swapped Tercel, and a 02 Sentra Spec-v with a huge 80-trim turbo. I beat all three, one at a time. After the last run, there was a crowd of people following me asking what i had done to it and what is it. I had to leave before i could get anyone else, but my mission to kill turbo cars is well underway. Now all i need is some Nos, and i'll start having some real fun.
Dude c'mon, do you actually expect people to believe you beat an 80 trim anything??? You may beat him from here to the stop sign, but once it spools youd be a distant memory. Congrats on your stage 2 but at least keep it beleivable. Post adyno sheet and detailed list of mods before you run it off like that. I might have believed the tubroed 240sx thing, maybe they both were out of tune, but your not even 250hp on your setup and your torque probably closely relates to that of a hamster wheel so feel good about your stage 2 and stick to the starlet swaps. No disrespect but dont believe you.

Dude c'mon, do you actually expect people to believe you beat an 80 trim anything??? You may beat him from here to the stop sign, but once it spools youd be a distant memory. Congrats on your stage 2 but at least keep it beleivable. Post adyno sheet and detailed list of mods before you run it off like that. I might have believed the tubroed 240sx thing, maybe they both were out of tune, but your not even 250hp on your setup and your torque probably closely relates to that of a hamster wheel so feel good about your stage 2 and stick to the starlet swaps. No disrespect but dont believe you.

it may be possible he beat an 80 trim something. i knew a kid that put an 80 trim into his jetta... the problem was that it didn't spool til 5500 rpm and his redline was at 6k. needless to say the car was still slow :D

omg, i beet a caval33r with a turb0 and it was teh fast.

omg, i beet a caval33r with a turb0 and it was teh fast.

omg i'm 17 and i'm too cool fer skool

Okay, I am late for this party, and forgive me for this, but I have to say it, who the hell would run a 02 Sentra Spec-v with an 80-trim turbo???

If I remember right, that car has a 2.5 liter 175 horsepower inline 4-cylinder engine. A larger wheel turbo has more open space to allow for air to flow in at high turbo RPMs. Likewise this open space can just as easily allow air to escape backwards resulting in an inability to maintain pressure at low turbo RPMs. The 80 trim would be ridiculous to put with that engine, that size of a turbo is way better suited for much greater displacement or if the user was running nitrous in order to get the engine spooled up faster (which I've never been too sure about in terms of feasability), either way you would be no match for him, unless you aren't listing all your mods?

Honestly, I don't know who would pay the money to get a turbo of that size that is completely mismatched for the car, either the owner of that car was feeding you a line of bull, or you misunderstood what he had under the hood. I would like to think you aren't just making this up? Not trying to be a dick, it's just that 2 + 2 should not equal 3.

***EDIT: added an 'o' to a mispelled 'to'

Dude c'mon, do you actually expect people to believe you beat an 80 trim anything??? You may beat him from here to the stop sign, but once it spools youd be a distant memory. Congrats on your stage 2 but at least keep it beleivable. Post adyno sheet and detailed list of mods before you run it off like that. I might have believed the tubroed 240sx thing, maybe they both were out of tune, but your not even 250hp on your setup and your torque probably closely relates to that of a hamster wheel so feel good about your stage 2 and stick to the starlet swaps. No disrespect but dont believe you.
I'm sorry, but this is believable. You need to realize that stage 2 with just a cai will dyno at 250hp and 220-225tq. I've seen, somebody else on here has posted his dyno. Might want to look around the COBALT forum before you start knocking a COBALT.

i thought the 02 sentra r's were only producing 150hp. can somebody calrify this.

Ok, i was just telling what happened. Yes, his car cant spool the turbo at all. The close-ratio tranny doesnt help much either. I didnt say he had the car tuned well. The 240SX sounded like it had a slipping clutch.

omg i'm 17 and i'm too cool fer skool

hahahaha :D :D

Ok, i was just telling what happened. Yes, his car cant spool the turbo at all. The close-ratio tranny doesnt help much either. I didnt say he had the car tuned well. The 240SX sounded like it had a slipping clutch.

it may be possible he beat an 80 trim something. i knew a kid that put an 80 trim into his jetta... the problem was that it didn't spool til 5500 rpm and his redline was at 6k. needless to say the car was still slow :D

called it.

I'm sorry, but this is believable. You need to realize that stage 2 with just a cai will dyno at 250hp and 220-225tq. I've seen, somebody else on here has posted his dyno. Might want to look around the COBALT forum before you start knocking a COBALT.

And now all Stage 2 Cobalts dyno at 250whp+. :rolleyes:

a 50 trim srt is good for something like 350-400 ponies i think...


so i can only imagine what an 80 trim spec would be at...

in fact, i didn't know specs had 80 trim turbos



250HP?...versus an 80 trim car........



ok fine you beat him.....but how many dozens of car lenghts did he give you?

a 50 trim srt is good for something like 350-400 ponies i think...


so i can only imagine what an 80 trim spec would be at...

in fact, i didn't know specs had 80 trim turbos



250HP?...versus an 80 trim car........



ok fine you beat him.....but how many dozens of car lenghts did he give you?

just because you slap a big turbo on your car doesn't mean it'll be fast. it's about picking the right turbo for your car. an 80 trim turbo is HUGE, my guess is the guy get's maybe 500 rpms of boost with it before he hits redline in each gear.

And now all Stage 2 Cobalts dyno at 250whp+. :rolleyes:
I never said all stage 2 Cobalts dyno 250+whp. I said that somebody here has posted his dyno of stage 2 with cai and I specifically stated hp. It was producing 250hp. A little help here iso, I think you've seen it too. I was just using this example to answer the claim that he wasn't even producing 250hp and had terrible torque. You are wrong. 250hp/222tq is an army of hamsters. Not one.

Also, the Sentra SE-R Spec V is not as powerful as you think. Here is what Edmunds has to say. http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/nissan/sentra/100624779/review.html
175hp/180tq. And that's for 06, so we can either assume that the 02 which he raced was either rated at the same or less.

Yes, add a turbo and you have more, but if you can't spool the turbo enough it is useless.

Nice kill! :D :D Props to you for having to take this internet racing crap.

I never said all stage 2 Cobalts dyno 250+whp. I said that somebody here has posted his dyno of stage 2 with cai and I specifically stated hp. It was producing 250hp. A little help here iso, I think you've seen it too. I was just using this example to answer the claim that he wasn't even producing 250hp and had terrible torque. You are wrong. 250hp/222tq is an army of hamsters. Not one.

Also, the Sentra SE-R Spec V is not as powerful as you think. Here is what Edmunds has to say. http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/nissan/sentra/100624779/review.html
175hp/180tq. And that's for 06, so we can either assume that the 02 which he raced was either rated at the same or less.

Yes, add a turbo and you have more, but if you can't spool the turbo enough it is useless.

Nice kill! :D :D Props to you for having to take this internet racing crap.

i believe that was toolmakers thread. now, not all ss/sc's will get 250 hp, but they should put down close to that. and 250 whp is still impressive for how little the car costs and weighs.

and again, i say, just because you can put a huge turbo on your car doesn't mean it's fast.

so what point where you actually trying to get across, NoChance?

As you were when you say you run a 12?


slow....
Well I guess Im the guy that always feels its necessary to jump in with the negative comments. Here you have someone ( LittleMt ) who has just gotten on my last nerve. She drives an srt just as I do and usually we stick together but here is How I see it. First off we have a guy who is proud of his stage two srt and runs 12's, congrats to him I run 12's myself. And then we have an obviously youger gentleman who claims to have beaten an 80 trim and a turboed 240. Although I dont believe him I still read his thread and comment constructively. None of us are as fast as LittleMt and thats ok. We all built our own setups and know something about cars, she on the other buys a built engine and the all of the sudden its like shes an expert on cars or 1/4 times. I mean personally with her power range I think only an idiot would run less than 11's. But Ill be nice and just say its ok when she cops an attitude with someone its ok cause shes the old bat with the big power. But let one of us do it ans shes right there calling them slow. Congratulations to all those winning races who are modding on their own and keep up the good work. And even even you guys buy the engine with the big power you will still know something about your car. I am just tired of her mother goose and these are my children shit. AND when Iso comes along and slams me for this cause he and I have had differences, he can try to understand where Im coming from cause he is in the same boat as me or he can take his arrogant I am in college and pay for my own car but still live with my parents mentality and keep kissing Little Mt's ass. Have a nice day all and keep up the good work. Its just ridiculous to come on here with the big srt and bash the cobalts. And as for you LittleMt or LucyBop or Lucille, whichever you decide to be, Keep tryin one day youll get it.

... AND when Iso comes along and slams me for this cause he and I have had differences, he can try to understand where Im coming from cause he is in the same boat as me or he can take his arrogant I am in college and pay for my own car but still live with my parents mentality and keep kissing Little Mt's ass.

i do not take nicely to this comment about me.

first of all, you came in here blabbing about how there is "no way in hell he beat an 80 trim anything". i simply pointed out that big turbos do not always equal screaming fast cars. what makes you think that car is capable of spooling that big of a turbo for any usable power? like i have said time and time again in this thread already, i bet that that car has maybe 500 rpms of boost before redline in each gear. so it's slow until it hits boost and then it's fast for like half a second in each gear. whoop de fuckin doo.

as for the boat... what boat are we in together again? i must have missed that. is that the boat where you come into a thread and spout useless garbage and then get angry when someone tries to correct you?

as for "kissing Little MT's ass." oh i'm so sorry i have respect for someone who has the ability to do what they love in life. besides that, i'm glad she's putting the strengths of these cars to the test, and honestly, i could care less who she calls slow. she probably has the fastest car on this board. and that's good for her, i'm looking forward to seeing what she can do with the cobalt.

Its just my opinion, dont take it to heart. You are in the same boat as I, trying to get the most out of our car with mods and your own knowledge. I was venting on her becaus she has three different screenames with three different sigs talkin about 636/596 tq. She is on here so much because she doesnt get away with this on th srt forums. But no one here likes it there anyway. And as for correcting me, I dont feel you have enough whiskers for that. I did and do give credit where it is due. I just come on here to see who is doing what witht the cobalt. Some is pretty good. I dont usually post negativity car for car, I just keep reading her sensless Im the best shit and your telling everyone to repect her. As for her doing what she loves in life, good for her. I have not one but three expensive ass hobbies. I have race quads I can post pics of ( One of which will whip even my srt's ass in the 1/8th ), and boating hobbies. I live too, I just dont post about my having the best and everyone is slower than me shit like she does. No offense to you. I just mentioned you because you are a follower and not a leader sir....

Its just my opinion, dont take it to heart. You are in the same boat as I, trying to get the most out of our car with mods and your own knowledge. I was venting on her becaus she has three different screenames with three different sigs talkin about 636/596 tq. She is on here so much because she doesnt get away with this on th srt forums. But no one here likes it there anyway. And as for correcting me, I dont feel you have enough whiskers for that. I did and do give credit where it is due. I just come on here to see who is doing what witht the cobalt. Some is pretty good. I dont usually post negativity car for car, I just keep reading her sensless Im the best shit and your telling everyone to repect her. As for her doing what she loves in life, good for her. I have not one but three expensive ass hobbies. I have race quads I can post pics of ( One of which will whip even my srt's ass in the 1/8th ), and boating hobbies. I live too, I just dont post about my having the best and everyone is slower than me shit like she does. No offense to you. I just mentioned you because you are a follower and not a leader sir....


i tell everyone on this site to respect others. those two were being complete dicks to littlemt. if there were two guys bashing you (even though we've had differences) i'd do the same and stick up for you. it's senseless when people gang up on someone talking shit when they don't even know who they are talking to.

as for correcting you, lol. but seriosuly you think that spec v actually gets usable power out of that 80 trim turbo? it probably doesn't even fully spool until redline.

as for doing what i love, at this point in time i'm lucky i can afford this car along with my tuition and books. i'm going to college to be a police officer because that is what i have wanted to since i was a kid. i hope that when i get out of college and get a job i can afford to buy a house and then start up my hobbies. for now, i can only look to other people who have the means to do this now, and learn from them. that is why i have respect for littlemt. she's doind the cobalt community a favor by throwing some power at the little balt that could(n't). i hope to be able to learn from what she does, so that i too can do this a little ways down the road.

i tell everyone on this site to respect others. those two were being complete dicks to littlemt. if there were two guys bashing you (even though we've had differences) i'd do the same and stick up for you. it's senseless when people gang up on someone talking shit when they don't even know who they are talking to.

as for correcting you, lol. but seriosuly you think that spec v actually gets usable power out of that 80 trim turbo? it probably doesn't even fully spool until redline.

as for doing what i love, at this point in time i'm lucky i can afford this car along with my tuition and books. i'm going to college to be a police officer because that is what i have wanted to since i was a kid. i hope that when i get out of college and get a job i can afford to buy a house and then start up my hobbies. for now, i can only look to other people who have the means to do this now, and learn from them. that is why i have respect for littlemt. she's doind the cobalt community a favor by throwing some power at the little balt that could(n't). i hope to be able to learn from what she does, so that i too can do this a little ways down the road.
Thanx for your response..........

Thanx for your response..........

no problem... sorry if i came off a little brash in my first response. didn't mean to sound like a complete douche bag.

slow!

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a cop...lol. Now it ALL makes sense.

slow!

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See??? First thing in the morning there she is......

It's all good kiddy-o!

a cop...lol. Now it ALL makes sense.

lol, shhhhhhh

^----hater

You guys had better pay attention to iso. he's right about mt. i think mt is the only person that can run with my fiero gt, as far as i'm aware of.

oh, and mt...i wasn't referring my last comment to you. i know where you stand and won't even make stupid statements about speed and power to you. you're practically an expert, if not the expert, in the subject.
So because she buys and engine pays to have it installed makes her an expert huh??? I mean her no disrespect I am just having a hard time with the whole thing. I mean one guy has 300 horse he created himself and someone else has 500 who doesnt really even know how the turbo works. I mean you guys decide, She spends more time on here than on her own cars forums cause thats the way they think over there but I dont know Im just tired of the whole highest horsepower is smartest thing. Here is an example, I myself with my own two hands and only 800 dollars was able to get into the 12's. I think that is the focus of these forums, and if not I sure am glad the rich guys don like cobalts or srt's cause then even she would have to bow.

So because she buys and engine pays to have it installed makes her an expert huh??? I mean her no disrespect I am just having a hard time with the whole thing. I mean one guy has 300 horse he created himself and someone else has 500 who doesnt really even know how the turbo works. I mean you guys decide, She spends more time on here than on her own cars forums cause thats the way they think over there but I dont know Im just tired of the whole highest horsepower is smartest thing. Here is an example, I myself with my own two hands and only 800 dollars was able to get into the 12's. I think that is the focus of these forums, and if not I sure am glad the rich guys don like cobalts or srt's cause then even she would have to bow.


Yo, let it rest my man...no one is giving her more respect because of anything, they are just giving her respect...period.

Anyone remember what this thread was about?

Yeah I am posting at 5:25AM because i work night work lol

Yo, let it rest my man...no one is giving her more respect because of anything, they are just giving her respect...period.

Anyone remember what this thread was about?

Yeah I am posting at 5:25AM because i work night work lol
I am a fellow nightshifter and yes I will let it rest. I can usually take a heap of crap and just laugh it off, but remember I follow her through two forums and blah blah. Anyways back on topic, iso made a good point about the sentra not being able to effectively push the 80 trim. I am curious to know why the hell the guy has that on there. I mean assuming all the story was the truth. And the turbo 240 must be out of tune, cause those things are one of the most beneficial cars to modify.

You really have no clue as to my involvement with the SRT build up.
You have no clue as to the depth of my knowledge.

I spend alot of time on SRT forums, mainly answering many many pm's
helping people with problems and also advising on their particular buildups.

When my car 1st got a big turbo over 2 years ago, it wound up making a unheard of at that time 480hp which was 3rd highest in the Country, and was one of the very few to run a 11, and had the 3rd highest trap in the Country at 125mph. This particular setup all the parts that went on the car were choosen by me, from research and discussion I did with many vendors. And some wrong decisions were made such as this. My car intially made 451hp, AGP contacted us and said their FMIC would make more power then my Psi-Fi unit. I really didn't believe them.
They shipped one out to me and requested we dyno both units back to back, if the AGP unit made more power they would give me a great deal on it, if it didn't, they cover shipping it back to them. We dynoed the 451hp on high boost from a 50trim with the Psi-fi unit on, while still strapped to the dyno the Psi-Fi unit was removed and the AGP unit was installed, the car made 471hp and also picked up 25ft of torque. These made for some legendary threads on SRT forums with some major vendor flame wars going on and even resulted in a direct challenge to Psi-Fi to bring their car and come up here and race in my high altitude and see whom's car was truely making power.

As did many of my threads, because I am in a position to test many of the parts available and have the dyno decide what works best. You must have missed those, from your join date you were not a member at that time.

We got my car cranked upto 491hp using a different method of tuning via Emanage, took the car out and when shifting into 3rd bang! No more gears and a sloppy shifter. Car got towed, one run and done. It turned out the car broke some crappy brass part in the gear selector plate. No after market replacement part existed, we replaced it with a factory part. But I bitched and made my thoughts known to several vendors on soultions to this problem. AGP now makes a stronger part that is cheaper then the Mopar unit, and several companys now make short throw shifters with shift stops in them to prevent people from banging the gears so hard that you break the gear selector.

I am one of the few that uses Emanage, and it is used for a reason, primarly the resolution of their maps is excellent, and it is tuned in a certian manner that I don't believe too many SRT folks are aware of which I won't get into, other then my O2 sensors have been removed from the tuning loop, the tune is very much part of the reason why the car made big power then and now.

Now as to the car being 636hp, many experts were consulted and played a role in the parts selection, and some of that was rather easy. AGP wanted to use a GT35R and redesigned their manifold (which I have their 1st one) and sent that out along with some engine goodies, Darrell Cox racing also provided some input and some awesome parts.

Once the car was running and making 636hp after a dyno tune, it begun to break up in high boost, during some high boost street runs the car made a loud bang and begun vibrating terribly, the car was taken to the shop and the tranny was pulled (after it was determined no mounts broke, or axels or any engine failures) and a center cap cover of some sort that was press fitted into the ClutchMasters clutch failed as it popped off. Clutchmasters was contacted (that thread is in their forum) and made immedate corrections to their units as they now weld this piece in, but I complained that the modular design has a weakness due to the 4 measly bolts that secure the flexplate. I choose to go with a Fidanza flywheel which eliminates the modular design flexplate crap and is a conventional setup now, meaning flywheel - clutch - pressure plate, ClutchMasters has since gone to a very similiar setup, because they truely want to make a product that can support big big power, and this is a big reason as to why their sticker graces my rear window.

Since you say you follow me at SRT forums, you have obviously missed this stuff and much much more, but in fairness alot of this stuff happens in pm's and phone communication.

Now I have a excellent builder no doubt, but to say I have less knowledge because I cant assemble my very own engine to withstand 40psi of boost would be foolhardy of you, because most people on SRT forums couldn't, yourself is probably included. But thru communcations with Super Steve on his buildup, Darrel and Misty Cox and others, a recipe was put together, and my builder did his thing with some tricks he has, and the SRT runs strong.

My car was at the forefront in the SRT areana close to 3 years ago, and the haters hated. Some time passed and many caught up and surpassed my car.

We stepped it up a notch and again my car is in the forefront. I have answered literally hundreds of pm's about its current setup and have freely shared most things about it with the exception of tuning maps and the fuel system that is used, somethings are not disclosed out of respect to my builder and a possibly future offering of parts for a high hp setup.

I very much have a clue as to what is going on here, and as many on the SRT boards realize, I am a tremendous resource in the quest for big power.

There is so much I could speak to, but this post has already dragged on.
I don't really need to convince you, my remarks in this thread are simply because you are dis-crediting me in front of others, making it come off as I am simply a person of wealth that barely knows how to start the car.

My engine wasn't bought already built, it was built by Sean of Solid Technology, after much research and planning and waiting, as Darrell Cox sent us out some rather awesome goodies, some that he was going to use
on his personal race car.

We continue to push the car, and I will dyno one day again very soon, as I believe it will already surpass the 636hp mark.

As stated above, many things have gone through with the construction of the red car. Many trials and errors, and successes became of it.

With any car, it had its ups and downs and we WERE there to experience every bit of it. See which affected what and how things followed through as time went by.

As one of the drivers of her SRT4 (Me being her Son, Yeah I Kiss a lot of ass to try and drive it!) I have seen the differences, and changes of this car. Her coaching has caused me to improve as a driver, and made me more focused and more knowledgable as to what to expect. She is a Person of vast knowledge, and i recommend not back talking her in person, as she will make you pay (as i have found out many times.)

My mother and our team(Solid Technology) have done so much to get to where we are and explore the potential of the SRT-4. And Many other have benefitted without even realizing the roots of where things have come to be.

My car is nothing to sneeze at, but again, with her coaching, on a barely tuned 50 trim in my car, i made a pass at our altitude, and managed a 12.38@118 on just a mere 20psi. But again, its because of her, and her knowledge that is helping me improve everytime out at the strip.

All in all, we are here to support each other. To not get jealous, but to learn and always have a strong goal to try and be at the top.

As some may expect, we will try and bring this to the Cobalt SS, and make a run for some "SOLID" power and numbers!!!

Gabriel

^^^ WOW, that was long. :p

WOW!!! This thread has grown from OH BOY to this???? Impressive!

Oh and italianjoe, nice kill on the sentra :)

I have much respect for Lucy. She's a shining icon of the SRT community, and just an overall great car loving person. Envy and jealously run rampant when you see her collection, but it's all good. ;)

LOL! Cure cancer and your an icon. Drive a fast srt-4 and at the end of the day you just have a fast neon, trust me on this one. And we must all be car loving people or we wouldn't waste time on these forums. LittleMT may feel she has a rite to come across as cocky and silver may feel a need to vent but the cobalt & srt-4 forums are the only forums that take the fighting to this extreme. I wonder why that is???Shit call it a draw and let's get back to talking about cars. And if she calls you slow again just tell her to get out of her car and race her on foot then call her slow, lol :D

slow!




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Any car can slide yes but drifting is left to the RWD and AWD crowd. The only drifting your going to be doing in FWD is if you enter a turn too hot and the backend comes out. Must correct without overcorrecting the spin to regain control. It's not really "drifting" persay as opposed to powersliding I'd say. The pic I included above is of Dale Seeley at One Lap last year entering a turn at triple digit speeds. A little too hot to make the turn so the backend came out. Dale is a awesome competitative driver and was able to make it look easy-peezy ala...drift ;)


When you spin the wheels on FWD, it pushes. There is no control. So in order to drift like RWD or AWD guys do you'd have to be e-braking everywhere where as RWD and AWD usually only e-brake to initiate the drift. To continue the drift seemlessly they use throttle and power to spin the wheels to finish off the turn. You can't do this technique with FWD. It would eaither grab and hook rather than spin around the turn or it would push to the outside whilst spinning the tires in smoke.


actually im a drift fan and there is a Honda CRX drift car FWD so its not just RWD and AWD (JUST letting u know)

Okay, I want to weigh in with a little something here. LittleMT, what was frustrating for me is when you weigh in talking about one car when you have another car in your signature, without my knowing who you are or anything about you, that's confusing and a little bit annoying. I see you talking about doing this and that going back and forth talking about one car and another as though everyone knows exactly what you have under the hood of which car, and quite frankly, I didn't know these things, and I'm still not completely positive about it.

The other thing, and this has nothing to do with you, it has to do with some of the other people here, you are female, right? I couldn't figure out before why there are other users vehemently attacking anyone who dares say anything about you but now it makes sense. I think people need to let you settle your own discussions, you seem to be more than adequate at it, while the people trying to 'protect you' or whatever the heck they are doing are more into insulting and starting more crap with people than settling any differences.

I'm not stating this stuff to stir the hornets nest, just wanted to put my two cents in. I think if you want to solve a few of the problems, if you want to continue to talk about several cars (and rightfully so, you have done some impressive stuff) then list ALL your cars in your signature, because that would certainly make things easier to say "ahh, that's what she means" instead of having to ask "wtf is this person talking about?"

Okay, I want to weigh in with a little something here. LittleMT, what was frustrating for me is when you weigh in talking about one car when you have another car in your signature, without my knowing who you are or anything about you, that's confusing and a little bit annoying. I see you talking about doing this and that going back and forth talking about one car and another as though everyone knows exactly what you have under the hood of which car, and quite frankly, I didn't know these things, and I'm still not completely positive about it.

the Twilight Zone...

The other thing, and this has nothing to do with you, it has to do with some of the other people here, you are female, right? I couldn't figure out before why there are other users vehemently attacking anyone who dares say anything about you but now it makes sense. I think people need to let you settle your own discussions, you seem to be more than adequate at it, while the people trying to 'protect you' or whatever the heck they are doing are more into insulting and starting more crap with people than settling any differences.

There are several here whom have known me for awhile, but its all good, this place is fun and of particular interest to me because of my Cobalt. We are all rather unique in our beliefs and likes and dis-likes, yet we have a common bond, the desire for speed and having a nice automobile, whatever flavor of car it might be. I don't think there are much differences to be settled, those differences are what makes a forum rather interesting.

I'm not stating this stuff to stir the hornets nest, just wanted to put my two cents in. I think if you want to solve a few of the problems, if you want to continue to talk about several cars (and rightfully so, you have done some impressive stuff) then list ALL your cars in your signature, because that would certainly make things easier to say "ahh, that's what she means" instead of having to ask "wtf is this person talking about?"

That would be a awful long signature, and would add further confusion. :D
If folks don't know what the HepKitty is talking about, so be it! Some will know, I am not like anybody you have ever met.

I fail to see how that can be anywhere near as confusing as having a picture of one car in the signature while discussing another car that many people seem to assume, quite stupidly, that everyone knows you own.

I fail to see how that can be anywhere near as confusing as having a picture of one car in the signature while discussing another car that many people seem to assume, quite stupidly, that everyone knows you own.


Well, then either avoid my threads/posts or learn as we go along, because I am not going to act how 'you' think I should, I am not going to have a sig how 'you' think I should, ect.

I do my own thing.

Well at least others are chiming in on the bullshit. Exposed you may be, but its good for you, it builds character I hear. But, I will admit my mistake in this. I was unaware of your level of involvement with the cars build, so I stand corrected in some aspect of it. I just got a little wore out with the Oh hail the 1/4 mile Queen shit. Anyways I feel better, me and my little 275/300 car that runs 12.6 with slicks will continue to be.................slow.

exposed? huh?

The problem we have here is a Cobalt owner posts a kill story then for some reason certian (not all) SRT owners have to show up and troll, only to find out they are not as fast as they think.

The Cobalts and Redlines are really gaining ground, as the aftermarket continues to grow. I expect more and better kill stories, and more hurt feelings I suppose. And more trolling...

Well, then either avoid my threads/posts or learn as we go along, because I am not going to act how 'you' think I should, I am not going to have a sig how 'you' think I should, ect.

I do my own thing.

Well, if that's how you want to be, then these so called friends of yours should shut their mouths and not start arguments, you seem to relish the confusion it creates and the aftermath, which is certainly not fair to new users to this forum. Don't play the martyr when you enjoy it to begin with :)

exposed? huh?

The problem we have here is a Cobalt owner posts a kill story then for some reason certian (not all) SRT owners have to show up and troll, only to find out they are not as fast as they think.

The Cobalts and Redlines are really gaining ground, as the aftermarket continues to grow. I expect more and better kill stories, and more hurt feelings I suppose. And more trolling...

Okay? The cobalt owner in question posted his kill story in such a way to call out turbo car owners, so why are you defending him when turbo car owners come out and respond?

For my part, I am not trolling, when someone talks about an 80 trim on a low output 4 cylinder car, I'm going to question that. It's one thing to make an informative post about some 'kills' you get, it's another thing to chide an entire genre of cars (turbos) and then expect that people who drive turbo cars would applaud such behavior.

Okay? The cobalt owner in question posted his kill story in such a way to call out turbo car owners, so why are you defending him when turbo car owners come out and respond?

For my part, I am not trolling, when someone talks about an 80 trim on a low output 4 cylinder car, I'm going to question that. It's one thing to make an informative post about some 'kills' you get, it's another thing to chide an entire genre of cars (turbos) and then expect that people who drive turbo cars would applaud such behavior.

why are you giving mt such a hard time? all she said to the original poster was "oh brother". then she made some joking comments to everyone who responded to this thread by calling them slow. it's the internet, don't get so upset.

Well, if that's how you want to be, then these so called friends of yours should shut their mouths and not start arguments, you seem to relish the confusion it creates and the aftermath, which is certainly not fair to new users to this forum. Don't play the martyr when you enjoy it to begin with :)

and who exactly was trying to start arguments? the original poster who she had very little to say about in the form of "oh brother".

Anyways back on topic, iso made a good point about the sentra not being able to effectively push the 80 trim.


awww shucks. :) lol, i only speak from experience. my friend upgraded his 1.8t jetta to some rediculous turbo thinking it would be fast and his car can't spool the turbo. it's even slower than it was when it was stock.

Well, if that's how you want to be, then these so called friends of yours should shut their mouths and not start arguments, you seem to relish the confusion it creates and the aftermath, which is certainly not fair to new users to this forum. Don't play the martyr when you enjoy it to begin with :)


The thing is, you don't come in here and dictate whom should do what, it is not for you to say for anybody to 'shut' their mouths. I am not playing a martyr, but quite frankly nobody is forcing you to participate here.

I choose to and I will not act the way you or others think I should.

Some of the 'new users' of this forum do come in here and sorta thump their chests and say things such as this: Dont get MAD. just get you a turrbo and you'll be fast to. Fucking turcel, you outta be ashamed to have posted that crap. Next thing you'll be bragging about outrunning geo metros. Oh and detroit tuner I drive a 12 second stage 2 srt-4.

Nope. This wasn't neccessary, the original poster had some kills and shared them, so when people come in here with this altitude, well, what does this person think, we are suppose to hide and get scared because of the "I drive a 12 second srt" remark? Not here it isnt going to happen.

The SRT is ahead of the Cobalt, nobody will deny it, but the Cobalt/Redline is gaining ground and many nolonger are a easy kill, as some tend to think....

The LSJ folks don't seem to have issues with me, but the SRT folks (not all of them, as there are some very cool ones that visit us) that come in here to thump their chests, take issue with me when they discover they are up against one of the most powerful SRT's in the Country. Interesting....

and who exactly was trying to start arguments? the original poster who she had very little to say about in the form of "oh brother".


actually the 'oh brother' was in response to bluebeast whom was responding in all the threads in kill stories with a 'oh boy' remark after somebody posted a kill...


I enjoyed the original posters post... He had some kills, good for him!

[QUOTE=LittleMT]actually the 'oh brother' was in response to bluebeast whom was responding in all the threads in kill stories with a 'oh boy' remark after somebody posted a kill...


i need to start going to sleep more often, i don't even know what i was trying to say. i think i was trying to ask where you were the one starting the argument. the original poster put up his kills and said how he enjoys turbo hunting. and then the srt folk came along blah blah blah i have a 12 second stage 2 srt-4. my train of thought was not on the tracks for that post.

Hell of a pissing match you guys got going! 130 replys and no end in sight :D

I love turbo cars!!!!

I love turbo cars!!!!



They are awesome! Especially at a high altitude where Normaly Aspirated suffers greatly.

Some of the funest times in my red SRT was several years back when most up here had no idea what a SRT really was, to most, my car was a dumb ricer
neon with a bodykit.

I have no hard feelings to anyone on here :) I just expressed some thoughts was all. I save my ire for domestic bashing honda drivers mwahah

I have no hard feelings to anyone on here :) I just expressed some thoughts was all. I save my ire for domestic bashing honda drivers mwahah


dually noted, lol.

Turbo cars are slow.

Turbo cars are slow.


I likie you!

Turbo cars are slow.


you got it almost right, eblue is slow :p ;)

turbo/super. it's all the same to me. MORE POWER :D They both can give awesome results when used properly. Besides, if I wanted my car to sound like it was letting go of some hot air I'd use a turbo and ridiculously large bov. If I want to make some noise that turns heads I'll use the sc. It all depends on what you want and what you need. Such as I'd never use a turbo with vtec. vtec does a great job on the higher end of the rpm range. I'd use a sc for that much needed help. That's why the new GEMA powertrain in the caliber srt-4 is using a turbo. with dodge, who is known for great torque, you need a turbo to keep you strong all day long. Hyundai's not know for great top end power.

you got it almost right, eblue is slow :p ;)

victory red ftw!!!

you got it almost right, eblue is slow :p ;)
Phhht, eblue has been smoking cars while orange blast was still in diapers. :D

If I want to make some noise that turns heads I'll use the sc.
Ya, your right. Those turbos are so quiet. I guess you have never drove a turbo car and blown off on someone walking down the road or driving with their windows down. Scares the shit out of them. :D

Actually, I have a custom, hand built (by me) 32-valve Northstar v8 twin turbo'd and intercooled in a 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT that is producing about 600hp.

...Yeah, I think I know about turbo's and bov's. I just see more turbo's than sc's. After a while you just get numb to the sound of the bov.

And in my opinion that is a pocket ferrari.

Ya, your right. Those turbos are so quiet. I guess you have never drove a turbo car and blown off on someone walking down the road or driving with their windows down. Scares the shit out of them. :D


That and he probably has never heard a GT35R spooling, then hitting full spool with the wastegate open to atmosphere, a sound that is capable of awaking the dead.

That and he probably has never heard a GT35R spooling, then hitting full spool with the wastegate open to atmosphere, a sound that is capable of awaking the dead.
You're right on the GT35R. But I think it would take more than that to wake this dead.

You're right on the GT35R. But I think it would take more than that to wake this dead.


You have to hear this...


does your twin setup have dumps to atmo or does it recirculate?

It's recirculating.

Edit: What am I saying! It's not recirculating, it's dumping. I originally wanted to recirculate to keep the pressure because I'm in high altitude, but I decided to dump. Sorry, I haven't driven the car since I bought the SS/SC. I wanted to turn heads.

Tell you what. I give you my right ear (my deaf ear) and see if I can hear it. If it is really loud enough to wake the dead then it should be loud enough for me to hear.

I have it recirculating.


then the dead sleep when your car goes by......

got any pictures, and into where does it recirculate, being twins, I am curious where this occures.

whatever hearing remains in your ear, would be gone if we did such a thing.

Sorry, I edited on you.

The only circulation I have is where the bov is which is next to the cai filter. My fiero has the funtional mecham scoops so i used them for the bov, but that is where the airfilter is. In a way it is a recirc, but by def it isn't. Sorry about editing my last post on you.
Sorry, no. no pics. My wife lost the digital camera or is trying to keep it from me because i really don't know how to use it. Hopefully soon.

By the way, since the mecham scoops serve as functional air inlets for both sides i was able to do 2 cai's, one for each side. It was a pain in the ass to fab since i had to weld the wall that separates the trunk from the engine bay and had to do a u-bend in the pipe. I treated both banks of the engine as separate engines, so i have cai's on both sides and bov's on both sides. this took some ingenious planning and fabbing from by brother. hence teh term jimmy rigging. Unfortunately I didn't document everything since this was just planned for my car. and i wanted faster an original route, not the standard drop in ls1's or lt1's.

then the dead sleep when your car goes by......

got any pictures, and into where does it recirculate, being twins, I am curious where this occures.

whatever hearing remains in your ear, would be gone if we did such a thing.

Sorry, I edited on you.

The only circulation I have is where the bov is which is next to the cai filter. My fiero has the funtional mecham scoops so i used them for the bov, but that is where the airfilter is. In a way it is a recirc, but by def it isn't. Sorry about editing my last post on you.
Sorry, no. no pics. My wife lost the digital camera or is trying to keep it from me because i really don't know how to use it. Hopefully soon.


how many wastegates you run?

how many wastegates you run?
2, I think, one for each side. Now you've got me scratching my head. I've got pics of the exterior, but not the interior if you'd like to see. She still looks stock since I haven't done brakes wheels, body kit, spindle drop, etc.

2, I think, one for each side. Now you've got me scratching my head. I've got pics of the exterior, but not the interior if you'd like to see. She still looks stock since I haven't done brakes wheels, body kit, spindle drop, etc.


you would have to have two, and they would either dump to atmo or recicrulate, didn't you say you hand built this setup?

you would have to have two, and they would either dump to atmo or recicrulate, didn't you say you hand built this setup?
Hand built but he cant decide if it dumps or recirculates. Doesnt know if he has 1 or 2 wga for a twin turbo. :D

She still looks stock since I haven't done brakes wheels, body kit, spindle drop, etc.
It still looks stock cause it is stock.

OH BOY :rolleyes:=Calling bullshit without actually saying it. another case of OH BOY here! But I likea little BS if it kicks the story up a notch.

Actually, I have a custom, hand built (by me) 32-valve Northstar v8 twin turbo'd and intercooled in a 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT that is producing about 600hp.

...Yeah, I think I know about turbo's and bov's. I just see more turbo's than sc's. After a while you just get numb to the sound of the bov.

And in my opinion that is a pocket ferrari.

You're right, I said I had hand built the thing. Too bad for me that I wasn't clear enough about that. I should have been more clear. I hand built the engine. The turbo's are my idea, treating each bank of my engien as a separate engine was my idea, but when it came to performance at that time i had no idea how to do it. So, I turned the project over to my little brother and told him what I wanted. He's a wiz at modding anything. So I actually don't know all the detailed specs to the build just what i've done. Which is why it sounds like I was guessing on the waste gates. I have never claimed that I dynoed the thing and when I say 600hp I stand by what I say because it is what my brother said it should be around. And I trust him when he says stuff like this. After all, he built a naturally aspirated sohc geo storm that beat an integra-r. And all I wanted was a new clutch.

Blue beast. Don't start your shit. If it weren't for stickers you probably couldn't tell LittleMT's red srt-4 from another if they were just sitting there next to each other until you got under the hood or heard them in idle. Does that mean her car is stock too? I won't drive my Fiero yet for a few reasons. 1) with that much power I want bigger and better brakes. Fortunately there a 12 and 13 inch rotor packages with 6 piston calipers that I will be installing. Problem is money. It is going to run over $3000 and there size cannot be handled by the wheels which are too small. This brings me to my next point. 2) The wheels. The tires on there know do not have a high enough speed rating to handle the proposed top speed. And the wheels need to be bigger to handle the larger brakes. This is also going to cost money. 3) With that much power I do not trust the cv's to hold up. I'm trying to locate some, or see if somebody can make some for me. Also, once again money. 4) Aerodynamics. I want to lower the car, but can't decide on a spindle drop or lowering springs with Koni adjustables. If I go with the spindles will have to make sure that my wheels are big enough to handle it. Also, I want to get scoops in place of my fastback plastic windows, a scooped decklid, phantom headlights to replace the pop-ups, a better body kit, and I want to make the aerodynamics flow over the front in a way that will avoid the front end coming off the ground when I exceed 140mph (nothing scarier than experiencing that). I may have to place weights in the front to avoid this, but hoping aerodynamics can avoid this alone by possibly doing something like the way the Ford GT40 was designed. I know this can be done as it has been done before by with a friends car. And his fiero won't even clear a soda can (though I don't want to go that low). But, once again money.

I don't know shit about forced induction, the ss/sc is my first go at it alone project.

Do you even now how much a 32-valve Northstar v8 costs? How about a 6-speed Getrag tranny that mounts transverse like the ones in Porsche's? That is expensive shit. I'm not made of money. It has been a looooong, slow, expensive build. I'm probably over the biggest part.

So, raise the BS flag as high as you want, play a little anthem, and shout to draw attention all you want. I know what I know, and I don't claim to know anymore. I know the truth, you don't. I also do unto others as I would have them do unto me. So if I wanted you to lie to me, then I would lie to you. Enough is enough. Don't call it until you see it. I'm not a car expert, especially when it comes to modding, but I don't claim to be one either.

At least I'm not like my uncle who has more than a dozen modd'd cars and doesn't know what is in them becasue he paid somebody else to do it for him so that he doesn't get his rich hands dirty.

What about you LittleMT. I'm sure you got your hands dirty, but didn't make everything. Didn't somebody else do some work for you?

well, now that the truth is out somewhat, don't call your car a 600hp car.

It doesn't matter what 'little brother' has to say, the dyno matters.

Dyno you car or quit this claim, you may find you are well lower then what
'little brother' has to say, or, you just might be even higher!

But until you dyno, you really don't know where the hp number falls and to suggest 600hp due to 'little brother' saying so, would certianly get you laughed off my drag strip atleast.

Does 'little brother' say what it will run in the quartermile????

Sean @ Solid-Technology built my engine as said in a earlier post found in this thread. I freely and easily admit, I don't have the expertise to build a stock engine, let alone one that withstands 40lbs boost. My involvment was only in the planning, researching, involving other experts such as Darrell and Misty Cox, buying the parts, and giving them and all the data to Sean, whom worked his magic.

You claim to have built this engine, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Your car if it has what you claim (yes I have much doubt) then it sounds like a sweet setup. But the difference between me and you, is I have actual dyno plots, I have actual ET slips, I have actual witnesses whom have seen my car run at the track and the dyno, as over the last 2 years it has had 6 dyno sessions, you..... You have what 'little brother' said...

And to tell me you built this engine but you have no experience with forced induction is rather weak IMO, becuase a engine that is going to see a twin turbo setup has to be built with the knowledge of what boost does to a engine, and pistons, compression, rods, timing must be planned accordingly not to mention a extensive fuel setup that will supply fuel and adjust fuel pressure as boost rises to extreme levels. Sorry, but one just doesn't slap any old engine together let alone the Northstar and twin turbo it without having some type of knowledge or experience with forced induction, otherwise that engine will be short lived....

OH BOY :rolleyes:=Calling bullshit without actually saying it. another case of OH BOY here! But I likea little BS if it kicks the story up a notch.


Oh brother...

well, now that the truth is out somewhat, don't call your car a 600hp car.

It doesn't matter what 'little brother' has to say, the dyno matters.

Dyno you car or quit this claim, you may find you are well lower then what
'little brother' has to say, or, you just might be even higher!

But until you dyno, you really don't know where the hp number falls and to suggest 600hp due to 'little brother' saying so, would certianly get you laughed off my drag strip atleast.

Does 'little brother' say what it will run in the quartermile????

Sean @ Solid-Technology built my engine as said in a earlier post found in this thread. I freely and easily admit, I don't have the expertise to build a stock engine, let alone one that withstands 40lbs boost. My involvment was only in the planning, researching, involving other experts such as Darrell and Misty Cox, buying the parts, and giving them and all the data to Sean, whom worked his magic.

You claim to have built this engine, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Your car if it has what you claim (yes I have much doubt) then it sounds like a sweet setup. But the difference between me and you, is I have actual dyno plots, I have actual ET slips, I have actual witnesses whom have seen my car run at the track and the dyno, as over the last 2 years it has had 6 dyno sessions, you..... You have what 'little brother' said...

And to tell me you built this engine but you have no experience with forced induction is rather weak IMO, becuase a engine that is going to see a twin turbo setup has to be built with the knowledge of what boost does to a engine, and pistons, compression, rods, timing must be planned accordingly not to mention a extensive fuel setup that will supply fuel and adjust fuel pressure as boost rises to extreme levels. Sorry, but one just doesn't slap any old engine together let alone the Northstar and twin turbo it without having some type of knowledge or experience with forced induction, otherwise that engine will be short lived....
And if it's short lived then that is my problem. Unlike you I don't have vast amounts of money to drop into cars. And I will continue to claim the 32-valve Northstar I built to be 600hp, though probably more. My R&D for the motor (which is still built) came from a guy who built a 500hp naturally aspirated 32-valve northstar that was prepped for racing. Unlike him I still have all emissions controls. If I ONLY get 100hp from forced induction I will be happy. So, 500+at least 100=at least 600.

Here's a question for you? Did you race your cars while you were building them? I mean like when you were 400+hp and you weren't sure if the axles would hold up or the brakes be able to stop you in time? If you did then you must have enough money to clean up your messes too. I don't and I won't. If I'm going to go fast I'm going to be able to stay on the ground, stop, and be able to drive my car away off the track. my cars dynamics are different from your: front engine w/ front wheel drive vs. rear engine with rear wheel drive. You have dyno's because your setup is complete and you have been able to dyno. My setup is not (see previous post). I know that an engine can be dyno'd without a car, but I'm not going to do that since the only dyno I know of is over half an hour drive and 1) I don't have a truck, I only have my ss/sc and 2) I already put the engine and the tranny and the subframe and the exhaust back in and plugged all the electrical stuff in. Call it what you will, but keep in mind that you built your car before me, and had lots of money to do it with thanks to intels success, which means you finished before me. I'm still working on mine. If I wanted big money to get involved in this build then I would have sold my fiero to my uncle and directed the project while he would have financed everything and got to keep the car. I'm not about to do that, I want this car for my entertainment.

Besides this wasn't something I really cared to get into an arguement over. Who cares. Your car may be faster, or slower than mine, though I would guess maybe about equal since I'm probably about 600-700lbs lighter. I don't care. I wasn't building my car to prove that my balls are bigger than yours. Hell, I didn't even know who you were when I came up with the concept for my car. I didn't even care for the srt-4 when it first came out. I thought it was just another neon. But, my ss/sc has shown me that I was wrong. It's my car, not yours. i don't flaunt my car around. I even took it out of my sig before this whole mess started, mainly so that I could add more mods that I was considering for my ss/sc. Get over it. This isn't a Fiero build forum, and this thread wasn't either.

wow, you had been replying to this thread for 41 minutes, couldn't find any info on google? Little brother didn't answer his phone?

You car isnt a 600hp car. Dyno it and prove so, otherwise it at this point
simply isn't.

I have been involved with cars for many many years, and the one thing I have learned is each and evey car is different and takes to things differently..

Just because so and so made a number, doesn't mean you will, but the fact remains, you have never dynoed, to suggest 600hp is a sack of BS at this point.

Yes I have raced my cars as they were being built, and in different stages of mods, because I wanted to understand what certian mods actually did, so we would dyno tune to mainly ensure AFR's were safe and to see if the said part showed a gain, then the car would run at the strip to back up whatever hp numbers the dyno claimed. I went about it in this method because I didn't have a 'little brother' or a 'uncle' to simply tell me what the car would do.

And btw, my car has been lightened, before you tell me your car is lighter, which it might be, mine was recently weighed on a scale, was yours? Or am I going to have to go by what 'little brother' or 'big uncle' sez it weighs?

wow, you had been replying to this thread for 41 minutes, couldn't find any info on google? Little brother didn't answer his phone?

You car isnt a 600hp car. Dyno it and prove so, otherwise it at this point
simply isn't.

I have been involved with cars for many many years, and the one thing I have learned is each and evey car is different and takes to things differently..

Just because so and so made a number, doesn't mean you will, but the fact remains, you have never dynoed, to suggest 600hp is a sack of BS at this point.

Yes I have raced my cars as they were being built, and in different stages of mods, because I wanted to understand what certian mods actually did, so we would dyno tune to mainly ensure AFR's were safe and to see if the said part showed a gain, then the car would run at the strip to back up whatever hp numbers the dyno claimed. I went about it in this method because I didn't have a 'little brother' or a 'uncle' to simply tell me what the car would do.

And btw, my car has been lightened, before you tell me your car is lighter, which it might be, mine was recently weighed on a scale, was yours? Or am I going to have to go by what 'little brother' or 'big uncle' sez it weighs?

I love this stuff, don't you. I could argue all night long...IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT I HAVE CUSTOMERS AT MY JOB, HENCE 41 MINUTES. Get over it I have to work to pay for my cars, not just for medical benefits. And try this on for weight. The sticker on the door of my fiero says (and I'm adlibbing since i'm across the valley from it) approximately 2800 lbs. The car had an cast iron block (heavy) 2.8ltr v6. I dropped in an aluminum block (lighter) 4.7ltr v8. that was almost a 400lb difference. according to the numbers in got. Now the fiero is a smaller car than the srt4 with some fiberglass panels (like the fenders) and others urethane (like the bumpers). it is a 2 seater mid-engine car, but if your really knew cars you would know this. This means no backseat, and no wasted metal or other materials (like doors, hence srt4) that would be needed to make a car that normally has a backseat. Excellent bachelors car. the rear window is right behind your head. In height the car is almost half the size of a cobalt.

And I'm just getting started.

Now since you are constantly trying to discredit me, would you like me to discredit you? You give, I give. You don't know shit about cars. You couldn't tell me the difference about welds, integrity of different metals, i.e., the heat disipation differences between cast iron and aluminum. You probably couldn't even tell me what inconel is and what it is usually used for in cars without asking for help from somebody you know or browsing the internet. And you call yourself a car person. I laugh at you. You are playing a dangerous game with somebody who doesn't have much to lose. And aren't the most dangerous people the ones who have nothing to lose? You've already ran my good name through the mud, what's left? What do you have to lose? You're not a car person. Car people build their cars, not have somebody else use you as R&D. Hell, if you were smart you would have had them pay you because it would have been your business where you make money. One good investment with intel and all the sudden you are a goddess. If you're so powerful throw a lightning bolt at me. Now, get off your soapbox and show the original poster of this thread some respect and let him have his thread back. I tried to ask you to do that before, but you insisted on being in the spot light.

Oh, and what is the difference between me consulting my little brother and you consulting your people? Nothing. I just get to see him more and ask questions without having to pick up the phone and we both can be in the shop together trying to figure out what direction to go and what to do next. So stop laying into me for something you are guilty of yourself. Hippocrit!

And to think that at one point I respected you.

and you can only tell us what 'little brother' has to say...


a dangerous game? please.... coming from someone whom admitted he doesn't have a clue about forced induction, yet you built a engine for one.????

and then claimed 600hp and probably wouldn't know a chassie dyno if it hit him on the head.

Well praytell, what size of injectors are you using for this 600hp northstar twin turboed beast? What method of fuel control and what are you AFR's when boost begins and at redline? What compression is this engine at?

Quick, get on google or call 'lil brother', maybe uncle as well...

since you're the expert why don't you tell me. or will you have to call your companies for help. dangerous game refers to the fact that i don't roll over just because somebody wants me to. I could keep this going until we are both kicked off. And if you knew shit then you would know that google wouldn't have the answer. Such an outlandish claim from somebody who doesn't even believe that I'm at work.

Come on expert, which is better for heat disipation cast iron or aluminum. Or an experts question would be best suited for you. What is inconel and what is it used for on a car?

You know, you are starting to sound just like what that person said on here a few days ago.

since you're the expert why don't you tell me. or will you have to call your companies for help. dangerous game refers to the fact that i don't roll over just because somebody wants me to. I could keep this going until we are both kicked off.

Come on expert, which is better for heat disipation cast iron or aluminum. Or an experts question would be best suited for you. What is inconel and what is it used for on a car?

You know, you are starting to sound just like what that person said on here a few days ago.


For better heat disipation I have understood aluminum in certian strengths to be the better choice (heh, i have a 50/50 chance on this answer)..

as far as inconel and its use, you got me, I haven't a clue and to be very truthful, this is my 1st time dealing with that term!

And nobody wants you to roll over....

So you are at work?

for the record i know less about the internet than i do cars. don't even know how to get a search done without on google without at least 200,000 hits. i didn't even know that you could search images until my Information Systems instructor showed the class several weeks ago.

For better heat disipation I have understood aluminum in certian strengths to be the better choice (heh, i have a 50/50 chance on this answer)..

as far as inconel and its use, you got me, I haven't a clue and to be very truthful, this is my 1st time dealing with that term!

And nobody wants you to roll over....

So you are at work?
You are right aluminum is better for heat disipation. Hence the reason why most, if not all, car makers are switching to that for their engine blocks. The metal is stronger and gets rid of heat of quicker. I knew you wouldn't know anything about inconel. I just used the 2 questions to prove my point. Nobody knows everything, therefore lay off. Here's the answer about inconel. Inconel is a rare man made metal that is made of several natural metals for their best qualities and used to counterbalance their weak qualities. One of those metals is nickel. Great for heat disipation, but horrible strength. Inconel is a very expensive metal and comprises of less than the entire worlds share of metal. It also shines brighter than chrome when properly polished. It is difficult to manipulate. That is why it is only used the most expensive of cars like ferrari's. Ferrari has used the metal for their exhaust manifolds. I have see catalogs listing inconel as an option, but the price when compared to t-304 steel or even titanium was much much more. Now you have learned something that I have known for years. No googling on this one.

And yes, I'm at work. I work at a rental car company at Salt Lake International Airport and it is my job to close tonight.

You are right aluminum is better for heat disipation. Hence the reason why most, if not all, car makers are switching to that for their engine blocks. The metal is stronger and gets rid of heat of quicker. I knew you wouldn't know anything about inconel. I just used the 2 questions to prove my point. Nobody knows everything, therefore lay off. Here's the answer about inconel. Inconel is a rare man made metal that is made of several natural metals for their best qualities and used to counterbalance their weak qualities. One of those metals is nickel. Great for heat disipation, but horrible strength. Inconel is a very expensive metal and comprises of less than the entire worlds share of metal. It also shines brighter than chrome when properly polished. It is difficult to manipulate. That is why it is only used the most expensive of cars like ferrari's. Ferrari has used the metal for their exhaust manifolds. I have see catalogs listing inconel as an option, but the price when compared to t-304 steel or even titanium was much much more. Now you have learned something that I have known for years. No googling on this one.

And yes, I'm at work. I work at a rental car company at Salt Lake International Airport and it is my job to close tonight.

I have been to that airport on many occasions, as I used to fly twice a month on SouthWest from Albuquerque to Portland, we always had a stop over in Salt Lake....

I have always wanted to see the Temple, but never have.

Now nowhere in this thread or any thread on all foums I am a menmber of, have I ever suggested that I know it all...

Far from it, and I learn on a daily basis, and I love challenges, and thats how I view my 2006 SS Cobalt, a challenge to trap 110mph at my altitude. The car only trapped 90mph a few weekends back.... To gain 20mph is going to be very very tough, and admitedly, some doubts have crept in, but I am still aquiring parts and have a game plan for that car....

Having been rodding cars since the early 80's, I have had many failures and some successes, time will tell what I can get out of the Cobalt...

The Cobalt was at AGP turbo in Phoenix yesterday, and they examined it and the minds are working, on a possible manifold location. Yes, because of my finacial means, some companys have indeed jumped at the chance to do some R&D with my cars, but this bodes well for the others, as hopefully more tested/dyno proved/ track proved parts will become available...

I have purchased parts and switched them out while still strapped to the dyno, testing vendors claims, and as a result some vendors don't like me, because I found issues with certian offerings, and yet other vendors love me, because their part
now became proven with hard data....

Anytime you're coming up here let me know. I can hook you up with a real cheap rental car. Hell, I'll even take you to Temple Square, or any other temple you would like to see in the valley. 2 more are being built in the salt lake valley right now. Now, I can't take you into the temple unless you are a mormon with your endowments taken put and have a current temple recommend. I wish I could take you in. It is such a beautiful place. I got married inside of it. But, if you want some idea of what it is liek just read the King James version of the Bible. That will tell you everything.

Oh, and I know that it is because of your work that quality parts are made for tuning cars. Thank you. Can't wait to see everything that comes out.

As for you tuning cars....you've been doing it almost my entire life. You had to start somewhere just like I am. All I ask is for a little respect just like I'm sure you would have asked for over 20 years ago.

Anytime you're coming up here let me know. I can hook you up with a real cheap rental car. Hell, I'll even take you to Temple Square, or any other temple you would like to see in the valley. 2 more are being built in the salt lake valley right now. Now, I can't take you into the temple unless you are a mormon with your endowments taken put and have a current temple recommend. I wish I could take you in. It is such a beautiful place. I got married inside of it. But, if you want some idea of what it is liek just read the King James version of the Bible. That will tell you everything.

Oh, and I know that it is because of your work that quality parts are made for tuning cars. Thank you. Can't wait to see everything that comes out.

As for you tuning cars....you've been doing it almost my entire life. You had to start somewhere just like I am. All I ask is for a little respect just like I'm sure you would have asked for over 20 years ago.


I did get a tour (not inside the Temple) and saw a video at a Temple in Mesa Arizona. They did explain somethings about the Temple and the Temple recommend. It was very interesting.

I was rather surprised at how big the Morman faith is in the greater Phoenix area...

I did get a tour (not inside the Temple) and saw a video at a Temple in Mesa Arizona. They did explain somethings about the Temple and the Temple recommend. It was very interesting.

I was rather surprised at how big the Morman faith is in the greater Phoenix area...
Over 12 million strong world-wide. The salt lake temple is the only one that is stone and mortar. not any of that modern day stuff. and it took 40 years to build by hand.

Did the whole google search and your right about the inconel thing. lol. Learn something new every day. Now I have to figure out how to bring that up in a conversation. And wow littlemt driving sinse the early 80's! Looong time!!! I've only been driving sinse the mid 80's myself. Do people look at you funny when you pull up at the track??? From an age & type of vehicle standpoint? Alot of people are supprised when I pull up in my car expecting to see somone in their early 20's :eek:

As for you tuning cars....you've been doing it almost my entire life. You had to start somewhere just like I am. All I ask is for a little respect just like I'm sure you would have asked for over 20 years ago.

I always got disregarded, insulted, riduculed, scoffed at, simply from being female.. still do get this at times....

I remember going thru this in 1984, then I pulled off some mid 14 second runs in my 1964 VW Bug, which was fast at that time and also at my altitude,

Things started to change, and nobody wanted to run that bug on the streets..

I still have that car, and she is much faster..

http://www.hepcatradio.com/64tach2.jpg

Didn't bug me much about the respect part, some will, some won't, some will always hate. I merely tried to do the best that I could do, and no matter what happened and whom said what, I knew inside that I did my best....

Did the whole google search and your right about the inconel thing. lol. Learn something new every day. Now I have to figure out how to bring that up in a conversation. And wow littlemt driving sinse the early 80's! Looong time!!! I've only been driving sinse the mid 80's myself. Do people look at you funny when you pull up at the track??? From an age & type of vehicle standpoint? Alot of people are supprised when I pull up in my car expecting to see somone in their early 20's :eek:


Heh, when me and you were posting back and forth, you said you could be my dad, and you told me you are 39 if I recall correctly..

Sad to say, I am your elder.. :( :( :mad:

Hell I like the funny shocked looks on their faces when they see an old geezer in a kiddie car. And back in the 80's I never had nothing faster than 15 second cars but I'd run the piss out of em. All them year s of racing will get you a few things like near perfect reaction times and 60 foot times of less than 2 seconds. Hopefully I'll still be pulling that off when I'm 75!!!

Hell I like the funny shocked looks on their faces when they see an old geezer in a kiddie car. And back in the 80's I never had nothing faster than 15 second cars but I'd run the piss out of em. All them year s of racing will get you a few things like near perfect reaction times and 60 foot times of less than 2 seconds. Hopefully I'll still be pulling that off when I'm 75!!!


Here is a recent image of me, I have managed to stay looking young, but I am starting to lose that battle..

http://www.hepcatradio.com/zo1.jpg

Thats a lovely image. I would have guessed mid 30's ;)

Thats a lovely image. I would have guessed mid 30's ;)


here I was trying to look like a teenybopper!

http://www.hepcatradio.com/lucy55ch.jpg

since you're the expert why don't you tell me. or will you have to call your companies for help. dangerous game refers to the fact that i don't roll over just because somebody wants me to. I could keep this going until we are both kicked off. And if you knew shit then you would know that google wouldn't have the answer. Such an outlandish claim from somebody who doesn't even believe that I'm at work.

Come on expert, which is better for heat disipation cast iron or aluminum. Or an experts question would be best suited for you. What is inconel and what is it used for on a car?

You know, you are starting to sound just like what that person said on here a few days ago.
:D If you dont know just say it. Seems odd that you have no clue about an engine you "hand built". :rolleyes:

I know some, not all. I said I didn't know the forced induction. I built the engine, my brother did the forced induction. I've already been over this and see no point in hashing this out any more. Never claimed to know all, just what I know. I don't care if you want to try to discredit me and you think I'm a liar, that's your position not mine. For the record I don't lie and I don't care if you think I'm a liar since I don't have to prove anything to anybody except to myself. I didn't answer the question because I was sick of the BS that had been going on.

The response you're quoting was my attempt to prove that she didn't know everything either, but what's done is done and that is that. Let's let it die. Hopefully LittleMT would agree with that last sentence.

But thanks for the advise. I use it everyday.

Wow, I missed quite a bit of posts! I wonder if that dork knew his thread would destroy all in this section (thus far haha)

As far as building engines and cars, most of everything I have done is stock. 1988 Chrysler Lebaron convertible GTC was FWD engine repair 101 for me. 3 motors, 2 transmissions, installed rear disc brakes on the car, a fuel pump, replaced the air bag, always had to continually tweak the convertible top (although to this day I'll admit that has to be one of the best convertible's ever made in terms of the actual top).

Following that, lived at the family farm for about 4 years out of college, purchased probably around 75 cars at auto auctions, police auctions, salvation army auctions, etc. My father has probably purchased about 200 over the same time period. It's interesting, at the police auction you would typically get a beat up or wrecked or abandoned car with a good motor (bad body) and at the other types where people donate, you usually get a good body and interior (bad motor). So you take and add parts together, you get a 1000 dollar car to sell out of anywhere from 75 to 200 bucks invested, not a bad way to make a living while it lasted.

I've probably done somewhere between 65 and 75 motor swaps, about 15 or so tranny swaps (the trannies in those FWD Dodges were phenomenal, rarely did we ever see problems with those). Along with that of course lots of rewiring to fix little problems on 80 to 120K mileage cars, interior cleaning, fixing broken door handles and stupid shit like that. But honestly, it was a blast, getting dirty at your own pace and getting good money out of it too.

But alas, the price of iron went thru the roof and it was no longer feasible as even the junkiest cars (bad body, bad interior, blown motor) suddenly brought 250 bucks just for the iron value. We could no longer afford to continue our venture and I had to get a 'real' job. :(

Probably the most intensive project I've ever done was my 91' Dodge Shelby Daytona IROC, hit hard behind the drivers door. It didn't have anything really special under the hood, hi torque 2.5 turbo with 5 speed gertrag tranny, but it was a fun little car. Got it for 190 bucks at the police auction, engine ran but we thought it had a band tranny cuz we couldn't get the clutch to engage by pushing on the actuator (cable was broke) on the front of tranny... turns out it was just a really stout clutch that needed way more pressure, rehooked up the clutch cable and took er up and down the road a couple times, she really ran fast. So I spent about 2 grand and about 2 months rebuilding that car back to factory new condition (or as new as a 90K mile car can be) and then had about 2 years of fun with it. Not the fastest but something about the daytona body style was a real hoot.

I'm in Iraq now, so my lastest project got put on hold indefinitely, I have a wrecked 91 spirit R/T with the t-III 2.2 intercooled turbo DOHC lotus head, wanted to rebuild that motor and drop it in a 90 to 92 turbo shadow 5 speed but well, I decided I need to actually use my business degree and get a better job to provide for me and my wife, so I let go of that dream and bought an 'out of the box' pocket racer so to speak :) hence my srt4.

But someday, just maybe, I'm still holding on to the dream of making an 11 second dodge shadow. It's been done at least twice with that motor, and I think once in a minivan, but that's rumor.

Anyways, that's a short version of my automotive history :)

ummmm, thanks for sharing.

ummmm, thanks for sharing.

HEY, dammit, for sarcasm use ITALICS please!

I'm in Iraq now,

You are a brave young man, may your time there be safe.

You lucky SOB! I wish we could trade places. Iraq is the reason I was Marine Corps. Infantry.

Me sarcastic??? :confused: That was a heartfelt thanks. :D Really :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

By the way nice stripes. I'm thinking about doing my car. Can't make up my mind if I want to go white or go totally ricer and do bright Yellow. My car is E. Blue.

You lucky SOB! I wish we could trade places. Iraq is the reason I was Marine Corps. Infantry.

Ah, interesting, my wife is in the marine corp, in an air wing at Pendleton. She was still in training when my unit was activated for OIF. So she got stationed when I was over here, which made things tough.

I was infantry for 12 years before our unit got switched over to medium trans. I miss the blue cord.

i have found a site with the first turbo kit available for purchse for the cobalt 2.2L engines
http://www.yourcobalt.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=64
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/xCobalt05x/cobalt_turbo2.jpg

Nice kit but needs a bigger turbo. 5 or 6 pounds of boost isn't going to get it done but if you hit the ecotec with 20 psi then you'd be onto something.

yea i've seen that one before. i have a few issues with it.... first no intercooler, no fuel management, no fuel pump, turbo needs to be a 20g. i am waiting for the hahn racecraft kit.

Good point blue. That kit Is missing alot of things that make the more powerful turbo cars what they are. I would guess that kit is so small that it doesn't need an intercooler but not having the other things you mentioned is asking for trouble!

yea, there is still no real solution for providing the fuel needed for a turbo set up on the cobalts. need the ecu cracked before you start seeing any kits that you can use.

What about the sc's from gmperformance made for the cavalier and sunfire? Isn't the ecotec roughly the same as when it was in those cars?

What about the sc's from gmperformance made for the cavalier and sunfire? Isn't the ecotec roughly the same as when it was in those cars?

the 2.2 is basically the same though there is no way to tune for it since the cobalt ecu hasn't been cracked for the 2.2 models. there would be no way to solve the fuel and tuning problem without the ecu cracked. unless you use a full stand alone unit. but that's gonna cost money and still be hard to tune. not to mention it will piss the ecu off.

yea, there is still no real solution for providing the fuel needed for a turbo set up on the cobalts. need the ecu cracked before you start seeing any kits that you can use.
Well then what did that Twincharged guy that used to be on here do to get fuel to twincharge???

Well then what did that Twincharged guy that used to be on here do to get fuel to twincharge???

he used a maf-t but he was only pushing moddest numbers while doing that. i believe he has since tuned with hp tuners. but still i don't consider a maf-t a real solution.

I couldn't stand to read past the first 7-8 pages, so I don't know if anyone else caught this already or not...

Did you say the spec v had an 80 trim turbo??? I don't know if you realize how enormous of a turbo that is or not, but I'll just say that I don't think an 80 trim on a spec v would ever spool unless he increased the RPM's....or maybe within the last 1000 rpm's of his powerband. Talk about useless, people call a 60 trim useless on an SRT-4 (which is almost the same displacement), because it won't spool up until like mid 4000 rpms (not positive, but IIRC, mid 4000's is about right...LittleMT can correct me probably..)

but yeah, 80 trim is even a huge turbo on a grand prix gtp, I don't know if anyone has used one that big, and that engine displaces 1.3 liters more than a spec v.

anyways....umm, nice kills i guess.

Oh Boy :D here we go again

oops, I guess this thread was already beat into the ground...nevermind lol, I don't want to resurrect something like this. 80 trim turbo + 2.5L motor for the lose ;) That is all.

I couldn't stand to read past the first 7-8 pages, so I don't know if anyone else caught this already or not...

Did you say the spec v had an 80 trim turbo??? I don't know if you realize how enormous of a turbo that is or not, but I'll just say that I don't think an 80 trim on a spec v would ever spool unless he increased the RPM's....or maybe within the last 1000 rpm's of his powerband. Talk about useless, people call a 60 trim useless on an SRT-4 (which is almost the same displacement), because it won't spool up until like mid 4000 rpms (not positive, but IIRC, mid 4000's is about right...LittleMT can correct me probably..)

but yeah, 80 trim is even a huge turbo on a grand prix gtp, I don't know if anyone has used one that big, and that engine displaces 1.3 liters more than a spec v.

anyways....umm, nice kills i guess.


yep, i already covered the fact that there is no way a spec v can spool an 80 trim for effective power.

p.s. are you the same guy on motortopia?

yep, i already covered the fact that there is no way a spec v can spool an 80 trim for effective power.

p.s. are you the same guy on motortopia?

haha yeah, that's me :)

my gtp was one of like, 3 in the country that i'm aware of that had the GM bright red + dark wheels w/ polished lip combo...as far as I know, it was the first one, I know that nobody had pictures when I bought the wheels, so I just had to hope it looked good lol.

your's do look good. i couldn't find any pics of red cobalts with the five spoke black rims with a polished lip so i did the same thing. bought em and hoped they'd look good when they went on. i'm very pleased with the new look they give the car.

haha yeah, that's me :)

my gtp was one of like, 3 in the country that i'm aware of that had the GM bright red + dark wheels w/ polished lip combo...as far as I know, it was the first one, I know that nobody had pictures when I bought the wheels, so I just had to hope it looked good lol.


What are you driving now?

ever seen a del sol with rims the same color as the body?? namely...lime green rims on a lime green car....looks like absolute crap...

but yours look nice haha

......and a 02 Sentra Spec-v with a huge 80-trim turbo. I beat all three, one at a time....

....I could have beat the guy with the spec-v with my pedal bike in a 1/4 mile. He probably doesn't get even a 1 hp gain with that turbo. It probably doesn't even start to spool unitl about 6k!

....I could have beat the guy with the spec-v with my pedal bike in a 1/4 mile. He probably doesn't get even a 1 hp gain with that turbo. It probably doesn't even start to spool unitl about 6k!

we've already been through this. it's covered... let this thread die.

LittleMt please clear one thing up for us all. What times do you run at the track?? you can have 636 horsepower but that dont mean anything if you dont know how to drive. have fun with wheel spin ;)

Dude she is the best driver on the planet and is an automotive genious. just ask her.

Dude she is the best driver on the planet and is an automotive genious. just ask her.


Its a long learning process, as this car and a few other SRT's that I currently own and have owned since 2003 have been modified in one way or another, some with success, others with failures, much has been learned and yet much learning is still required.

I don't think the cycle ever ends, as power levels increase new factors come into play. I am fascinated by it, as some R&D has occured on my cars by some major players in the SRT community which led to some great products being sold today, other things showed no value and were never brought to market.

I am far from being a genious, rather, I do have a clue.

What a ride its been, and continues to be, as we push the envolope exploring the potiential of these potent little cars.

LittleMt please clear one thing up for us all. What times do you run at the track?? you can have 636 horsepower but that dont mean anything if you dont know how to drive. have fun with wheel spin ;)


I am having tremendous fun with a incredibly powerful CAR that has simply devastated some other cars in some street encounters I have been involved in.

Wheelspin really isn't to bad of a issue, and as stange as it sounds, it seems wheelspin hurt my car worse when it was only trapping 125mph and running 11's with 480hp...

It would spin then and seem to not really go anywhere, now it slams you in the seat, as it transforms into a runaway freight train and just accelerates at a mind boggling pace, wheel spin and all...