hi guys im new here. i raced a cobalt the other day here in phoenix, and i thought they were pretty quick he said he was stock, so i decided to come on here.


well i was waiting at a red light when this black cobalt gets next to me and starts revving his engine(i must say i was kinda worried i gheard they are pretty fast) so when the light turns green, and i had him from the launch about half a car length when i shifted to tsecond i extended it to a car, and he never got any closer than that all in all it was pretty quick for being stock. i have to give you guys a thumbs up! :)

was it an ss that you raced? cuz if it is ur spec v must not be stock because an ss would murder a stock one.

i have intake header exhaust motor mount inserts

i have intake header exhaust motor mount inserts

That's still shouldn't be enough to be a stock SS?? Unless dude didn't know how to drive, but why rev on someone if you haven't learned to master your car yet???

thats what im sayin maybe it was a ls or somethin my buddys brothers got a spec v with an aem intake, greddy cat back, aluminum heads and a vtec controller and he keeps up with me but id have to be a terrible driver to lose to him...but dont get me wrong those spec v's are quick lil rides

thats what im sayin maybe it was a ls or somethin my buddys brothers got a spec v with an aem intake, greddy cat back, aluminum heads and a vtec controller :confused: and he keeps up with me but id have to be a terrible driver to lose to him...but dont get me wrong those spec v's are quick lil rides

haha what a dork!!!!!!!!! :D :p

and anything else but a ss i wouldnt have raced :D

why would a spec v need a vtec controller? :confused:

anyways... here's another case of bad driver with a good driver i think he would have got you or atleast tied. on paper the SS is "suppose" to have the advantage. good kill.

errr well not the vtec in the nissan i forget what they call that powerband but he has a controller on his dash for it

i think you are thinking of a safc controller :D

i think you are thinking of a safc controller :D

you beat me to it i was thinking that too.... i don't think spec v's have any variable valve timing....

yea thats gotta be what it is i dont know my nissans very well

It probably was not an SS or I am throwin BS flag.

So I guess you're saying that an SS isn't much faster than my car either? Cuz I've raced two Spec's, one was a tie, and the other I beat. SO What you're telling me is the SS is a complete dog.

So I guess you're saying that an SS isn't much faster than my car either? Cuz I've raced two Spec's, one was a tie, and the other I beat. SO What you're telling me is the SS is a complete dog.

Trust me, I've raced an SVT, that had an intake and exhaust,and destroyed it in my SS. I'm talking like almost 3 car lengths up to 60 mph. The Sentra does not have a chance against a good driver!! ;)

Trust me, I've raced an SVT, that had an intake and exhaust,and destroyed it in my SS. I'm talking like almost 3 car lengths up to 60 mph. The Sentra does not have a chance against a good driver!! ;)


im sorry but unless you know what you are saying dont talk i'll rape an svt focus even if he had intake header and exhaust. the spec-v is very comparable to an rsx type s. with the rsx pulling it out by a hair . now in handling the svt is far superioir its actually great but its not very good in acceleration. a supercharged focus did a 14.7 in the quarter mile(it was a jacksons racing supercharger) my car with a good driver should hit mid 14's it does 15.1 stock so please dont say anything if you have no idea what you are talking abou :D :p

im sorry but unless you know what you are saying dont talk i'll rape an svt focus even if he had intake header and exhaust. the spec-v is very comparable to an rsx type s. with the rsx pulling it out by a hair . now in handling the svt is far superioir its actually great but its not very good in acceleration. a supercharged focus did a 14.7 in the quarter mile(it was a jacksons racing supercharger) my car with a good driver should hit mid 14's it does 15.1 stock so please dont say anything if you have no idea what you are talking abou :D :p

I don't think you know what you're talking about. A stock Spec-V hitting mid 14's? You're pretty stupid if you think you could manage that. I also take it you're not a good driver from what you said above. I managed a 14.71 my first time at the track. The rest of the day was wash, literally.

I don't think you know what you're talking about. A stock Spec-V hitting mid 14's? You're pretty stupid if you think you could manage that. I also take it you're not a good driver from what you said above. I managed a 14.71 my first time at the track. The rest of the day was wash, literally.
i'm not stock!!!! i have header intake exhaust and mmi.

i'm not stock!!!! i have header intake exhaust and mmi.

and your right stock ss hit mid 14's mine hits low 15's stock(15.1) so your saying i cant beat a stock ss with me adding header intake exhaust and motor mount inserts. if you knew anything about spec-v's you would understand the huge difference motor mounts make it alows you to launch properly. motor mounts were the last things i installed and boy oh boy what a difference they make! but i never said my car stock was as fast as your ss cobalts. i said my modified spec-v beat a stock ss cobalt

i'm not stock!!!! i have header intake exhaust and mmi.

Then why can't you pull a mid 14? Because you don't have enough mods to due so. I am not bashing Sentra's, Nissans are good cars. I've seen many in action at the drag strip. But low 15's is pretty common on that car with those mods. :)

i dont go to the track im not paying 20 dollars but for some reason and not everybody is an excellent driver i admit im not but i could've been better than the other guy. magazine times those are professional drivers. when you put equal drivers the out will be pretty accurate. i see people with srt-4 hitting 13.6 stock while other hit mid 14's does that mean all srt-4s are mid 14's cars, no!! they are in fact high 13's. dont think cause what you have seen is the same exception for all drivers/cars, and i bet you that there are some drivers on here with the ss cobalt that hit high 15's stock does that mean they cant break 14's?..........i'll let you think bout that for a minute

check this thread out its saying they saw cobalts running mid 16's and on one ran 15's...is this the same way for all of them? no of course not any smart person would know this.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150101&highlight=cobalt

magazine time show stock spec-v's running 15.1 stock, are you saying you install my mods on that spec-v and the times would be the same?

check this thread out its saying they saw cobalts running mid 16's and on one ran 15's...is this the same way for all of them? no of course not any smart person would know this.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150101&highlight=cobalt

magazine time show stock spec-v's running 15.1 stock, are you saying you install my mods on that spec-v and the times would be the same?

I have yet to see one run those kind of time stock and most magazines say 15.4 maybe 15.3. I've seen 2 stockers running 15.6-15.7 all day once. Take it to the track before you talk smack!!

I have yet to see one run those kind of time stock and most magazines say 15.4 maybe 15.3. I've seen 2 stockers running 15.6-15.7 all day once. Take it to the track before you talk smack!!


im not talking smack im just saying what happened if you dont want to believe oh well but i did beat THAT ss cobalt. i have no reason to come on her and talk smack. besides why would i compare my car to yours mine after all was about 6 grand cheaper. :D

Well, I'm not sure why everyone is getting so worked up about?? It could be possible that the SER beat the SS. Anything is possible, just give the guy credit, and hope that next time he come across an SS, that the SS dude knows how to drive. But for the SER to run mid 14's, you're going to need a lot more then just intake, headers, and exhaust, along with MM. As MM only reduce wheel hop, if they work properly. That don't mean that your tires spinning would be reduce to give you a mid 14's run. And going with what your car "should" hit, because someone else has the same setup did so, don't count in my book. What's the point in claiming a time of what the car can do, if you the driver can't drive it to hit that time. I've heard to many claims in my past on what a car should be doing, and never have I've seen two differnt drivers doing the same time with the same setup. But let's keep the peace, and give props to the guy. If his story isn't BS. Also, I've finally seen an SS run at the track that I go too, and breaking into high 14's, is pretty hard for the kid, not even sure if I even seen him break into 14's once all night. Although the car does look nice. Maybe he just need some more practice.

exactly^^^^^^^ my car SHOULD run mid 14's with a really good driver just like the cobalt SHOULD run mid 14's with a really good driver.

im not talking smack im just saying what happened if you dont want to believe oh well but i did beat THAT ss cobalt. i have no reason to come on her and talk smack. besides why would i compare my car to yours mine after all was about 6 grand cheaper. :D

I never once said you did not beat an SS. It is very possible in a Spec-V if you get a good jump on them. Key is how he drove his SS. If he dumped the clutch, no wonder why you won. The tires will smoke all day if anyone uses that method of driving in this car. The car once it hits 4500 rpm in first gear, the tires will light up with no help from the clutch.

yeah i can agree with that if i dump my clutch anywhere past 2k rpms ill just stay there burning rubber

First off, the stock svt header is a 4-2-1 race header, and better than any aftermarket one a shitty spec can have.

secondly, The svt was made compete directly with the Spec, si, cooper s, mazdaspeed protege. I guess the three i raced were complete pieces of shit, cuz they sure lost. The one on the freeway was a tie..Dude couldn't pull on me at all.

Thrid..read ANY mag from back in the day ('02-'04) and you will see the svtf continuosuly pounds on the Spec V..they are faster off the line, due to torque, but the svt catches them on top end.

TUNER TRANSFORMATION (speed channel) said the best quote when they were working on a Spec V: "I mean, it's a nice car and all, but it's cookie cutter shit."

im sorry but unless you know what you are saying dont talk i'll rape an svt focus even if he had intake header and exhaust. the spec-v is very comparable to an rsx type s. with the rsx pulling it out by a hair . now in handling the svt is far superioir its actually great but its not very good in acceleration. a supercharged focus did a 14.7 in the quarter mile(it was a jacksons racing supercharger) my car with a good driver should hit mid 14's it does 15.1 stock so please dont say anything if you have no idea what you are talking abou :D :p


In your dreams is the only place were an RSX-S and a SPEC-V would be comparable, please don't make yourself look foolish ;)



check this thread out its saying they saw cobalts running mid 16's and on one ran 15's...is this the same way for all of them? no of course not any smart person would know this.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150101&highlight=cobalt

magazine time show stock spec-v's running 15.1 stock, are you saying you install my mods on that spec-v and the times would be the same?


Without EM then I would say your mods could make your car SLOWER :eek:

what is the key factor in a race...DRIVER..you can agrue all day with "well this mag said" and "well its suppose to run" what you have to remeber is the time are with better than average drivers. with that said.... anything is possiable on the street... but the KEY FACTOR WILL ALWAYS BE THE DRIVER.... :D

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The one on the freeway was a tie..Dude couldn't pull on me at all.

Thrid..read ANY mag from back in the day ('02-'04) and you will see the svtf continuosuly pounds on the Spec V..they are faster off the line, due to torque, but the svt catches them on top end.


haha the freeway you should've pulled on him after all you do have better top end right? you just contridicted yourself, and once again the only car that ive raced that has beaten me is a mustang gt 04', and yes i raced an svtfocus with two other people in my car, and he was by himself and i beat him by two carlengths, no offense they are built much better handle better but they are not faster the spec-v will rape you then throw you in the dumpster for the rats to eat you :eek: (referring to your car that is) hehe just kidding bout the last part but yes i will beat you time and time again.

You're a complete idiot. You use these strong words to describe how you beat an SVT.."raped". These cars are very evenly matched in power, and it's up to the driver. And yes, an SVT will "rape" you in auto X...I think it would be funny to see your pos on a x track..lol

SVT= 170hp 145tq 6 speed
Spec V= 175hp 180tq 6 speed

And too bad you need to blow money on an aftermarket header and exhaust, while mine was perfect from the factory. So in that sense, both of us are evenly matched with our mods.

:rolleyes: Eeehhh, forget this argument..I'll be getting an '03 cobra or SS (depending on the one my wife will get for father's day) soon, so I'll be RAPING you all day anyways.

You're a complete idiot. You use these strong words to describe how you beat an SVT.."raped". These cars are very evenly matched in power, and it's up to the driver. And yes, an SVT will "rape" you in auto X...I think it would be funny to see your pos on a x track..lol

SVT= 170hp 145tq 6 speed
Spec V= 175hp 180tq 6 speed

And too bad you need to blow money on an aftermarket header and exhaust, while mine was perfect from the factory. So in that sense, both of us are evenly matched with our mods.

:rolleyes: Eeehhh, forget this argument..I'll be getting an '03 cobra or SS (depending on the one my wife will get for father's day) soon, so I'll be RAPING you all day anyways.

not really within the next few weeks my friend is going to take over payments for my spec-v and im getting an srt-4 :cool: so if you get the ss yes i'll rape you, and if you get the cobra, well lets face it you can make the srt-4 be as fast but i would never compare it to the cobra that is a beautiful car if you get the cobra i will envy you :mad: , beacause i can only wish to have that car. and about your svt if by perfect you mean slow, than yes your car is perfect :D

not really within the next few weeks my friend is going to take over payments for my spec-v and im getting an srt-4 :cool: so if you get the ss yes i'll rape you, and if you get the cobra, well lets face it you can make the srt-4 be as fast but i would never compare it to the cobra that is a beautiful car if you get the cobra i will envy you :mad: , beacause i can only wish to have that car. and about your svt if by perfect you mean slow, than yes your car is perfect :D



Well looks like you can leave the board now. Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. Go visit this site now http://www.srtforums.com/

thank you tomt!! That guy sis a dick

not really within the next few weeks my friend is going to take over payments for my spec-v and im getting an srt-4 :cool: so if you get the ss yes i'll rape you, and if you get the cobra, well lets face it you can make the srt-4 be as fast but i would never compare it to the cobra that is a beautiful car if you get the cobra i will envy you :mad: , beacause i can only wish to have that car. and about your svt if by perfect you mean slow, than yes your car is perfect :D

Careful what you wish for. You don't want an SS come up and bite you in the SRT4 you don't own!! :rolleyes:

sorry man but as a owner of a spec that was fully bolted and now boosted, u won't rape no ss unless someone like my g/f is driving it or you've got it boosting like mine. and the srt won't rape the ss either stock for stock it'll be a drivers race.

sorry man but as a owner of a spec that was fully bolted and now boosted, u won't rape no ss unless someone like my g/f is driving it or you've got it boosting like mine. and the srt won't rape the ss either stock for stock it'll be a drivers race.

Finally, a user that sounds like he has a little common sense!! :D

Thrid..read ANY mag from back in the day ('02-'04) and you will see the svtf continuosuly pounds on the Spec V..they are faster off the line, due to torque, but the svt catches them on top end.




whats funny is you're wrong.. May 2003 car and driver "3 knock out comparos"
The SVT did beat the spec-v but over all. Acceleration the spec-v had it handling the SVT is a hair better although the spec-v did have the edge on the skidp ad and emergency lane maneuver ( spec 68.5 svt 64.4 ). 0-100 20.5(spec) and 21.4(SVT) that doesnt show it catching anything top end. It shows the spec-v pulling away. But this isn't any mag right?

Now the SVT did beat the spec-v in that comparo but once again it was over all, comfort, ergonomics, handling, price ect.

One funny thing they did say about the SVt is "Gutless in this group, a bit tipsy in the turns, spongy shifter." don't blow your car out of proportion.
I can easily believe this happened drivers aren't always equal as for his car running mid 14's with his mods I believe that as well. I've seen a few do it, not saying he will but its possible.

sorry man but as a owner of a spec that was fully bolted and now boosted, u won't rape no ss unless someone like my g/f is driving it or you've got it boosting like mine. and the srt won't rape the ss either stock for stock it'll be a drivers race.

with equal drivers the SRT will always win. It won't be a raping off the line. Once hte race gets into 3rd gear thats when the walking commences.

hehehe i just got approved for the loan for the srt-4 flame red, with the lsd. and stage one mopar kit i just have to wait for them to ship it over :D

hehehe i just got approved for the loan for the srt-4 flame red, with the lsd. and stage one mopar kit i just have to wait for them to ship it over :D


Just you color FLAME :p

Just you color FLAME :p


I thought you were going to Tittywood?

I thought you were going to Tittywood?


I'm in Nash. Tenn. right now.


I havn't seen a Cobalt of any kind!

Hey Spec V guy... Ur in AZ right? If so, look for a silver SVT Contour, then we'll see what you say... :)

By the way, go spout off on some other board...

Greg

you beat me to it i was thinking that too.... i don't think spec v's have any variable valve timing....

But we do. CVTC...Continuos Variable Timing Control. :)

Probably driver error on the SS part but a kill is a kill

SVT contours are cool!

It's funny you guys getting all bent over this little SpecV vs. SS thing. He has motor mount inserts, mildly modded, and got a better jump off the line. Put on a 1.5 car lead and then couldnt pull away anymore.

To me, thats sounds right. A better launch, but they pull pretty equal. Both should be capable of mid-high 14's. Would have liked to see how those 2 compared in a 60mph roll.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/183937743451085.html

he he he svt that goes out to you ;).

I couldn't get a picture..just sound..what happened in it?

One headlight jumps infront of the camera, comesback, then the headlight jumps back infront. Crazy floating headlights. :( :mad:

Blank screen for me as well, but I could hear sound...

Greg