....in FIRST GEAR.

Now that's quality. Nothing but pure, ass-hauling torque. mmm.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106075

with a 65k price tag, 7.0 and 505 hp.. it better do something.

Got to love it that is one sexy a$$ car Chevy got a beast of a car. :D

with a 65k price tag, 7.0 and 505 hp.. it better do something.
65k is HUGELY cheap for a car that performs like that one does. You could spend 2-5x that much and still not match its capabilities on the track.

65k is HUGELY cheap for a car that performs like that one does. You could spend 2-5x that much and still not match its capabilities on the track.



WRONG!!!


If I was to put 30,000 more into my STI that Z06 would be toast, and I would still have 5,000 left!!!

WRONG!!!


If I was to put 30,000 more into my STI that Z06 would be toast, and I would still have 5,000 left!!!
Whatever. You could make a 91 Civic do 0-60 in 3.6secs for half of that too. That's not the point.

Whatever. You could make a 91 Civic do 0-60 in 3.6secs for half of that too. That's not the point.


So what is the point?

Corvette Z06 driving dynamics > STi driving dynamics. Not to mention RWD is just so much more fun and better. And personally I'd still rather be seen in the Z06.

65k is HUGELY cheap for a car that performs like that one does. You could spend 2-5x that much and still not match its capabilities on the track.


if i spent 2-5k on my evo.. trust me i could match the capabilities on the track... don't get all twisted up in the hp and tq #'s... its way more than that... i don't think i spent over 3k and im running 12.2's now.... and lets not talk about a roadcourse or autocross track... ;)

if i spent 2-5k on my evo.. trust me i could match the capabilities on the track... don't get all twisted up in the hp and tq #'s... its way more than that... i don't think i spent over 3k and im running 12.2's now.... and lets not talk about a roadcourse or autocross track... ;)
You people are new. No disrespect toward an Evo or WRX intened, they're both excellent cars for the money. But we're not even talking in the same league here. The Corvette is all aluminum, magnesium and fiberglass. Titanium internals. Probably 10x the ridgidity of an Evo. Active chassis, stability control, electronics out the butt. Frankly, unless your real name is Schumacher, you're not a good enough driver to take either a Vette or Evo to the max (nor am I), so I don't think you're in a position to make a statement like that. An Evo is a great car for the money, but the C6 is in Ferrari territory. Not comparable, and a steal for $65k.

You people are new. No disrespect toward an Evo or WRX intened, they're both excellent cars for the money. But we're not even talking in the same league here. The Corvette is all aluminum, magnesium and fiberglass. Titanium internals. Probably 10x the ridgidity of an Evo. Active chassis, stability control, electronics out the butt. Frankly, unless your real name is Schumacher, you're not a good enough driver to take either a Vette or Evo to the max (nor am I), so I don't think you're in a position to make a statement like that. An Evo is a great car for the money, but the C6 is in Ferrari territory. Not comparable, and a steal for $65k.

what does being new have to do with cars.... and yes i have beaten vettes on a autocross course before.. and to tell you the truth you can have all the acd, ayc asc you want personally i think your getting ripped from the real driving experience.

and i do remember the EVO have some titanium internals, aluminum block titanium turbine shaft and some other stuff. sorry you guys up in canada never got em.. and i do autocross my car and pretty much push it as far as i can.. i attend various driving classes in my off duty time too. so.. i think im in a position to talk about how i drive. what about you?

ps.. and for 65k.. i'd buy me something else... but thats just my opinion. there are a lot more capable car out for less.lets not turn this into a flame war we're just talking cars... plus im not here to start trouble.. im too old for that. :D

Personally i would go with the Z06 the car is just beautiful.

New cars have warrenties, modded old cars do not.

New cars have warrenties, modded old cars do not.

That is so true it is not even funny. Just think about it a car with that knid of power that is under warrentee. :)

its a z06 corvette, its absolutely goregous!!!!!!! way out of the league of evos and sti's even though i agree that EVO's are also goregous cars :)

to further the issue, why would you want a Ferrari or Aston Martin if you can get the same speed out of a civic, or corolla...

Theres a little thing called image, and as fast as your Evo is, you will never get as many looks as a Ferrari or Aston Martin.

It's nice to have that kind of power straight from the factory. Everytime you mod a car the reliability and integrity diminishes in comparison to what it would be if you left it alone. Trust me a 12 second Lancer, Neon, Impreza,Civic etc.... will break down more often than a car that makes those numbers or even better numbers straight from the factory. I have been fortunate so far w/ my car but I attribute that to using only mopar mods. The only non-mopar part on my car( Clutchmasters Stage 4 clutch) just started to go bye,bye on me. Go figure the stock clutch lasted about 140 trips down the 1/4 mile and this beefy powerful afternarket clutch only lasted 10 trips. However I think I was just an unlucky one and got a bad clutch and in no way do I feel CM is any less of a company cause of my misfortune. However, I will be ordering the mopar performance clutch this time around and hopefully won't have any problems. My point is, an 11 second factory car will spend more time being driven and a car modded to 11 second potential will spend more time being fixed. Just my personal opinion. Which would you prefer?

Theres a little thing called image, and as fast as your Evo is, you will never get as many looks as a Ferrari or Aston Martin.
Exactly! Obviously not a huge percentage of the masses gonna be able to afford this thing but if I could easily afford it, I would DEFINITELY buy it over an EVO or STi ANYDAY!!! It doesnt matter to me if you can build a cheaper car to run faster and perform better than the Z06! Even if you do its STILL not even HALF the car that the Z06 is!!!! I would get an adrenalin rush just ridin shotgun in a C6 Z06!!! Cant say that for any four door!

P.S. DO NOT get me wrong I absolutely LOVE the EVO and STi's, just sayin what I would do if financially able. Hell right now I couldn't even buy an OZ Lancer much less an EVO OR a Z06!! LOL :D

trust me the last thing i bought the evo for was the looks.... and i don't but cars to impress people because no one makes my car payment but me. image is only important to people who care.. i really don't care what people think about my car with that said
yes the ZO6 is a nice car but i just can't justify the 65k price tag.

Definitely understood. I would buy an EVO before I bought the Vette too, but only cuz I cant justify the price of the Vette right now either. But if I were financially able, I would have TWO layin around!! LOL :D

WRONG!!!


If I was to put 30,000 more into my STI that Z06 would be toast, and I would still have 5,000 left!!!
that's ghey. :(

First post. :D Anyways, guy with the STi you are delusional at best. The Z06 comes with 500hp 450ft/lbs., a dry oil sump, weighs less than the STi, has a way better tranny, has 13in. tires in the back. Runs 11.7 in the qtr. stock. It is a 200+mph car. I belive pulls high .9X on the skid. It is a through and through race car for 65k, that can be driven on the street. :D

Now what makes the STi better. It has a turbo and is AWD. :rolleyes: I would love to hear how you would spend 30k and out perform the vette in everything. I guarantee if you put 30k into it and do out perform the ZO6 at everything(which is very skeptical at this point) your STi will barely be able to be driven daily. Oh yeah the Z06 uses pump gas and will be street legal.

I have a buddy that just put 15k in his STi and runs 11.5s on his stock tires, but he must have race gas, is far from legal and still in no way could he keep up with Z06 on a track. Autocross maybe, but hell a lotus elise will eat both your 60k STi and the Z06 for lunch on an autocross course for 45-50k. :rolleyes:

Haha, STI is a nice car and all but comparing it to a ZO6 is like comparing a Bicycle to a Ducati 996. If I had 30K to put into my monte I could crush a Z06 too, buy a 502 ramjet and a pro charger and the monte would be unstoppable. But its like a few have already said it would hardly be road worthy.

My stock STI will eat a Z06 in a dirty rally race!!! So take that!

http://turbomagazine.com/features/0503tur_sti/

Read this and you can have it for 12,000-15,000 dollars less then a Z06, full warranty, faster then a 12.2 in the quarter mile. :p

Z06 is a nice car, but for that kind of money all I was tring to do was tell the person who posted this that 65,000 was way to much and I still think it is!!!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item=4558098494&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Here this is on e-bay right now with over 3 days left!!!

Anyone who thinks their STI/EVO is and/or CAN be better than the C6 Z06 should be banned for being so STUPID. End of story.

New Vette is fuckn awesome. The point is that it's a real good deal for the performance/price!!! I don't give a rat's ass if you put half the extra money into your STI/EVO, I'll STILL have more fun in the Z06, 100% garaunteed!!!!




... I hate AWD Turbo FANBOIS!!!!

My stock STI will eat a Z06 in a dirty rally race!!! So take that!

http://turbomagazine.com/features/0503tur_sti/

Read this and you can have it for 12,000-15,000 dollars less then a Z06, full warranty, faster then a 12.2 in the quarter mile. :p

Z06 is a nice car, but for that kind of money all I was tring to do was tell the person who posted this that 65,000 was way to much and I still think it is!!!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item=4558098494&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Here this is on e-bay right now with over 3 days left!!!

Are you serious? You are going to say the Easy Street STi is a better deal then the Z06 C6 Corvette? The new ZO6 runs sub-12s(11.7s are claimed, but will probably be faster) in the qtr.. I also guarantee that the Vette will eat the ESX STi for lunch on a track. Do you rally your car? Rally is only thing a stock STi or the ESX STi could consistently own a C6 ZO6 in. Autocross is another thing that the STi might have an advantage, but like I said the new Lotus Elise would own on an autocross course for the same price as the ESX STi. Do a little more research on cars(especially the ESX STi) before you say one of them is too much money. You probably think the Nissan R34 GT-R Nismo Z-Tune is over priced too. :rolleyes:

For the money the EVO/STI is the best bang for your buck period, you do the research, because I already did!!!

I bet 3/4 of the people on these boards can't buy an EVO/STI let alone a Z06!!!

I'm not hating on the Z06 but you can get something or make something just as fast for 65,000, so move on. This is how I took the first couple of posts as the person that started this was tying to say 0-60 in 3.9 was fast, it is but not for 65,000 dollars!!!

New Vette is fuckn awesome. The point is that it's a real good deal for the performance/price!!!



It is but not for 65,000!!! You my friend are the STUPID one if you think this :p

For the money the EVO/STI is the best bang for your buck period, you do the research, because I already did!!!

I bet 3/4 of the people on these boards can't buy an EVO/STI let alone a Z06!!!

I'm not hating on the Z06 but you can get something or make something just as fast for 65,000, so move on. This is how I took the first couple of posts as the person that started this was tying to say 0-60 in 3.9 was fast, it is but not for 65,000 dollars!!!

65,000 is nothing for a turn key 200+mph, 11 sec beast of a car. You'd spend $30,000 on your STi or whatever and beat a C6 Z06. Whoopdy-do. I spent $3000 in my LS1 and can whip one in an acceleration contest. Does that mean the Z06 is over priced? Hell no. If I had the money one would be on order right now. And if you came along and beat me after spending 30k in your ride, I'd go home call up any of the nitrous companies and say "Hey, I got this new Z06 and it's kinda slow for my tastes. Please send me a direct port nitrous kit. That's tuneable to what, about 200-300 hp. Yea, I got forged internals, titanium rods, she'll handle that no problem." They'll say "Sure! We'll send a guy out to help you tune the kit." Then I'll say "How much is your kit?" Then he'll say "$800". Then I'll say "Sweet! So for $65,800 I'll have a potential 9 second car. Hmmm, I should just spend another $400 on a set of sticky drag radials. Yep, I'll do that." Then they'll say "Your credit card number, address, and so on." Do you see how this is going? Any bumbling idiot with $70k can buy a Z06 and under $2000 in mods turn it into a COMPLETELY STREETABLE 9 SECOND STREET CAR. Emissions legal and everything my friend. $70,000 is nothing for that kind of reliability and performance. The LS7 is HAND BUILT. You'd beat me once, then I'd come back next week and whoop you like no tomorrow. So then what would you do? You would say "Damn, I should have saved my money and TIME and bought one of those." The downtime and parts breakage associated with modding your stock 13sec car to a 10 or 11sec car outweighs the costs of buying a turnkey 11 sec car. If we were talking the Mercedes SL65 AMG then yea, for the price you could definitely build a car for much less. But at $65,000 you have no argument. And actually you should be ashamed you'd have to put that much money in your car to run with a stock car! At $30,000 in mods I want to be DEEP in the 9s and would be there for a little more than half that in my car. BUT the Z06 is a sweet car and GUARANTEED Chick magnet! If you don't love the Z06 then you my friend don't love pussy!

wow this really got outta hand.. quick...

everyone has a opinion... some like it others don't oh well... its someones opinion..not something to write a book over.

the Z06 is a nice car.. no doubt but (and this is my opinion) im not spening 65k for a car. thats just me. I didn't buy my EVO for looks, to impress any body i bought it cause I wanted it...

ps: if you need a car to get some P**sy... then you really got issues... and probably a sore hand along with it.

wow this really got outta hand.. quick...

everyone has a opinion... some like it others don't oh well... its someones opinion..not something to write a book over.

the Z06 is a nice car.. no doubt but (and this is my opinion) im not spening 65k for a car. thats just me. I didn't buy my EVO for looks, to impress any body i bought it cause I wanted it...

ps: if you need a car to get some P**sy... then you really got issues... and probably a sore hand along with it.

Hehehe..Enjoy your econobox!

Hehehe..Enjoy your econobox!

thanks i do

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=2A7D6B15-D0F9-4976-ADAD-B97C2A7EDE80&kw=36

I can't resist showing this as it happened at my local drag strip, great lakes dragaway. So everybody knows it's the 65,000 Z06 on nitrous :D

Hopefully I'm done with this thread!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=2A7D6B15-D0F9-4976-ADAD-B97C2A7EDE80&kw=36

I can't resist showing this as it happened at my local drag strip, great lakes dragaway. So everybody knows it's the 65,000 Z06 on nitrous :D

Hopefully I'm done with this thread!!!

except for the part where it is not even a C6, but a C5.

Nice try though...even a 400 horse C5 Z06 is pretty damn fast, although a lot closer to 50K than 65K

Yeah the C6 Z06 isnt even out til next year. And it will smoke the dog shit out of the old ones with exactly 100 more hp!!! The final hp rating on the Z06 was 505hp and 470 ft/lbs!! :eek:

except for the part where it is not even a C6, but a C5.

Nice try though...even a 400 horse C5 Z06 is pretty damn fast, although a lot closer to 50K than 65K

hahahaha that dude got outta that car quick as fuck!!

For the money the EVO/STI is the best bang for your buck period, you do the research, because I already did!!!

I bet 3/4 of the people on these boards can't buy an EVO/STI let alone a Z06!!!

I'm not hating on the Z06 but you can get something or make something just as fast for 65,000, so move on. This is how I took the first couple of posts as the person that started this was tying to say 0-60 in 3.9 was fast, it is but not for 65,000 dollars!!!
Thats real mature dude, slander people by saying they cant afford an EVO, keep you POS rice burner I wouldnt drive it if I had the money. Just remember that no matter how fast any import is it can never compare to AMERICAN MUSCLE. Hating on a Corvette is like saying you hate America, or maybe thats just my opinion because I am Die Hard Chevy.

It is but not for 65,000!!! You my friend are the STUPID one if you think this :pI wont bother emabarassing you. Consider yourself spared.

You think that the EVO/STI is the best bang for the buck? LOL. wow.

I wont bother emabarassing you. Consider yourself spared.

You think that the EVO/STI is the best bang for the buck? LOL. wow.


Yea we all know the COBALT SS is!! :mad:





j/k please don't flame me lol. :p :D

Yea we all know the COBALT SS is!! :mad:

j/k please don't flame me lol. :p :DHaha, we know you're kidding.:D

Actually I thought the New Beetle was the best performance bang for the buck.

Or the Chevy Aveo! I dont know if they are still doin it or not but a local dealership was giving away Aveo's to anybody that bought a Silverado. So look at it this way.

Evo - $30,000 | Aveo - $0
Evo - 276hp! | Aveo - 103hp!
Evo - $108.70 per 1hp | Aveo - $0 per 103hp
Evo - 0.0092hp per every $1 | Aveo - 103 hp per $0

Aveo wins it hands down!!! It is the performance GIANT of automobile history!!!


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Ok flame on!!! LOL :D

AAAHAHAHAHA...

dude, YOU win, hands down..

that was too fuckn funny!!!

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Thank you Thank you!!!
Chalk it up!

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Just remember that no matter how fast any import is it can never compare to AMERICAN MUSCLE.

It will when it comes to reliability, imports beat american cars or muscle!



I wont bother emabarassing you. Consider yourself spared.

You think that the EVO/STI is the best bang for the buck? LOL. wow.


Please don't spare me my friend as you called me STUPID. Take another toke and come back.

Yeah but compared to the Z06, no production model factory import can f*ck with it, period (short of Italian or German cars maybe, and I think it will be stiff competition for a lot of them as well). Regardless of sayin well its only $30K, ok point is its still slower.

Yeah the C6 Z06 isnt even out til next year. And it will smoke the dog shit out of the old ones with exactly 100 more hp!!! The final hp rating on the Z06 was 505hp and 470 ft/lbs!! :eek:


I thought you said the Z06 doesn't come out till next year!! If this is so then it's not even a production car itself :D


Yeah but compared to the Z06, no production model factory import can f*ck with it, period (short of Italian or German cars maybe, and I think it will be stiff competition for a lot of them as well). Regardless of sayin well its only $30K, ok point is its still slower.


I should have replied to the top post before, I can't beleave that I'm talking with you guys about a car that you can even get!!

You win man, your my idol I wish I was half as smart as you, wow i didnt know we where talking about reliability. Imports get awesome gas Milage too, you got me beat. Its not nice to call people poor though, I have a friend who is only 18 with a Z06 and his Mommy and Daddy didnt pay for it. But I guess that doesnt impress you because you are the almighty.

tomt5078 i under stand the point you are trying to make, but what everyone else is trying to get you to see is they are talking turnkey performance, walk in dealer, drop 65k (still wouldn't do it) and drive off. now in the US import wise there are not many cars you can do that and pay that price.

but i will say this and someone said it before

"remember there is always someone faster" :eek:

It will when it comes to reliability, imports beat american cars or muscle!



Huh.....I guess my 10 year old Chevy Caprice (which still has enough power to vaporize both 255 tires anywhere in first gear) is not reliable, what with 204K on the clock, original tranny, original distributor/cap (OptiSpark), 2nd set of wires (3rd set of plugs), etc. Probably should have just thrown it away years ago....since it is so much less reliable than a Kia...Hyundai...Suzuki....Yugo...Honda, etc.

Or my series (2 cars) of 5 liter Chevy and Oldsmobile cars in the 80's that went 235K and 280K miles respectively, or my 1978 Pontiac that went 175K before I sold it (and I saw it run around for years and years after that.)

So imports must go...what? 300-400K miles without failure?

I will put American iron against foreign tin any day of the week as far as being reliable if reasonable maintainence is done on both. Cheaper parts for domestics as well, not that I have needed to buy many for any of my American nameplates.

Z06 (thumbs up)

Please don't spare me my friend as you called me STUPID. Take another toke and come back.LOL, I won't even bother. Please, do not quote me ever again as I find it very annoying that you continue to ramble over nonsense when everyone else is trying to tell you ONE thing, and you keep ranting so blindly. It was nice talking to you, good-bye.

My many question is why anyone would waste your money on a the ugly new Vette, when you could get a much better car like a BMW M3, or Viper, both of wich are better looking and the Viper is probably faster in normal form. I bet the BMW performs nearly as well and is much better car for the money.

Huh.....I guess my 10 year old Chevy Caprice (which still has enough power to vaporize both 255 tires anywhere in first gear) is not reliable, what with 204K on the clock, original tranny, original distributor/cap (OptiSpark), 2nd set of wires (3rd set of plugs), etc. Probably should have just thrown it away years ago....since it is so much less reliable than a Kia...Hyundai...Suzuki....Yugo...Honda, etc.

Or my series (2 cars) of 5 liter Chevy and Oldsmobile cars in the 80's that went 235K and 280K miles respectively, or my 1978 Pontiac that went 175K before I sold it (and I saw it run around for years and years after that.)

So imports must go...what? 300-400K miles without failure?

I will put American iron against foreign tin any day of the week as far as being reliable if reasonable maintainence is done on both. Cheaper parts for domestics as well, not that I have needed to buy many for any of my American nameplates.

ok.. this is true..now fast foward to 99-2000 and tell me that american cars today are still built with the same quality and care as they were built in the 70's and 80's? :confused:

ok.. this is true..now fast foward to 99-2000 and tell me that american cars today are still built with the same quality and care as they were built in the 70's and 80's? :confused:

I dont think so because now it is all done by machines. But i could be wrong.

I wont say anything about this NEW subject that has came out of this post other then the fact that everyone here has gotten to the point where they are beyond talking out thier ass's. Relability all depends on how you treat your car, and wether or not you maintain it correctly its pretty simple. If you run thie piss out of your car it will eventually die, if you baby it then it could last you forever with the exception of FORD Taurus's which I frikin hate because I used to have one and the transmissions SUCK. Sorry, I am done ranting now. :)

You know...if I was a mod, I'd either enforce everyone to get back on topic, or just simply lock this thread.

Did you notice I was kind of hinting at that in my last post ;)

87camaroPA/cobizzle


Lock this thread. It's like 3-5 threads in 1.

My many question is why anyone would waste your money on a the ugly new Vette, when you could get a much better car like a BMW M3, or Viper, both of wich are better looking and the Viper is probably faster in normal form. I bet the BMW performs nearly as well and is much better car for the money.

Haha. Do you know what you are talking about at all? First off everybody, the 2006 C6 ZO6 will be on showroom floors in October of this year 2005. And to SS4ME the ZO6 will sell for 65k where the viper starts at at 78k and the ZO6 outperforms it in almost all categories. Now for the M3, let me control my laughter for a moment... ok the only thing the M3 has going for it is ITBs and thats it. But the M3 is in no way, no how comparable to the ZO6. It does the Qtr. in what 13.2? Same as the STi and guess what you can't compare that either.

Just to clear everything up there should only be one car being compared to the ZO6 as far as bang for buck goes and that is the new Shelby GT500 but the vette will still consume it on the track.

Most of you guys don't even know anything about the ZO6(i.e. release date) and you guys are arguing about it, especially Tom. Everybody go do some research and then come back. BTW what is the fastest qtr. mile for a STi/WRX? My point being is that there will be a lot, a lot, a lot of Z06s running 9s and probably 8s in the first year of its production and still be a very capable track car. You will never be able to say that about the STi, sorry.

Abra cadabra, clickity clock...

Close this thread, IT's NOW BEEN LOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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