: Pics of White SS AUTOMATIC
Zilla 06-16-2005, 04:41 PM I drove this baby last week and it was fast... not quite as fast as the SS Supercharged, and a little slower than the Malibu SS but you get the idea.
I wish I took some better pictures... If you look closely you can see the edge of the low spoiler on the back, so it doesn't have the combat style spoiler like the Supercharged model. Also, you can see they added the tiny GM logo (many new models have this) just behind the front wheel and then the "SS" logo another 6 inches behind the GM logo. Otherwise, everything else seemed pretty much the same.
http://www.webfluid.com/photos/cobalt_ss/whiteSS.jpg
http://www.webfluid.com/photos/cobalt_ss/whiteSSint.jpg
http://www.webfluid.com/photos/cobalt_ss/whiteSSint2.jpg
CD'srt 06-16-2005, 06:12 PM Is it still consider as an SS if it's not a SC?? I thought they didn't make any automatic SS??
phxSS 06-16-2005, 06:16 PM That's really fucking stupid to have a non s/c SS. Now when ricers beat one, they'll brag thewy beat an SS, and people will start thinking all SS's are slow
Zilla 06-16-2005, 07:39 PM Is it still consider as an SS if it's not a SC?? I thought they didn't make any automatic SS??
You're right, they don't make them... this is a pre-production car.
Zilla 06-16-2005, 07:47 PM That's really fucking stupid to have a non s/c SS. Now when ricers beat one, they'll brag thewy beat an SS, and people will start thinking all SS's are slow
Honestly, it wasn't much slower than the supercharged SS... I think the clutch needs to be tighter on the s/c version too, a nice racing clutch would be awesome... but that's an entirely different thread.
plainnsimple 06-16-2005, 07:56 PM That's really fucking stupid to have a non s/c SS. Now when ricers beat one, they'll brag thewy beat an SS, and people will start thinking all SS's are slow
Say hello to the SRT-4 Design of last year..... It happens.
-Jack
MY GTP 8 U 06-16-2005, 07:58 PM Is this supposed to be the N/A 2.2 ECOTEC SS that I've been reading about?
SS4ME 06-16-2005, 08:11 PM It looks like the dealership dressed up the Cobalt LS coupe and stuck some SS badges on it.
Zilla 06-16-2005, 08:56 PM Is this supposed to be the N/A 2.2 ECOTEC SS that I've been reading about?
I'm pretty sure it's the 2.4L Ecotec, 170HP @ 6000 RPM.
Zilla 06-16-2005, 08:57 PM It looks like the dealership dressed up the Cobalt LS coupe and stuck some SS badges on it.
...and stuck some of those fancy GM logos on for good measure.
87camaroPA 06-16-2005, 09:57 PM Yeah that might be the 2.4L SS.
I wish the SS Supercarged came in white.
phxSS 06-16-2005, 10:03 PM I wish the s/c SS had the 2.4
87camaroPA 06-16-2005, 10:17 PM I wish the s/c SS had the 2.4
Yeah i know that would be nice.
Zilla 06-16-2005, 10:58 PM I wish the s/c SS had the 2.4
Yes, that would be nice. Technically, I think the compression ratio on the 2.4 is too high for a supercharger, but otherwise it would be sweet.
Zenkat 06-17-2005, 02:05 AM At least it has an armrest.
Flesh 06-23-2005, 03:58 PM Yes its the same motor thats going to be in the Solstice.....Until 2007 when the Solstice will be a turbo 240 hp.
SS4ME 06-23-2005, 06:36 PM Yes, that would be nice. Technically, I think the compression ratio on the 2.4 is too high for a supercharger, but otherwise it would be sweet.
Technically, it would be very easy for GM to lower the ratio on the 2.4L. How knows maybe in the future?? The torque on that thing would gobble up pavement!!
foXll17 06-23-2005, 06:40 PM wait.. im so confused... automatic ss?
SS4ME 06-23-2005, 06:54 PM wait.. im so confused... automatic ss?
Junk!!!! ;)
phxSS 06-23-2005, 07:38 PM Ditto..SS4me
foXll17 06-23-2005, 08:20 PM haha... "junk" lol
DC52NV 06-23-2005, 08:48 PM please take off the SS badges if it's not an SS.
SS4ME 06-23-2005, 09:08 PM ^^ I've seen a Honda dealership by my house that dressed up a Civic SI hatch to look like a Type-R. When I came in to question the car, because I was very interested in buying it. That is when the salesman told me it was just an SI, I walked out.
DC52NV 06-23-2005, 09:12 PM ^^ I've seen a Honda dealership by my house that dressed up a Civic SI hatch to look like a Type-R. When I came in to question the car, because I was very interested in buying it. That is when the salesman told me it was just an SI, I walked out.
haha, that's funny. did it have type R badges? was it a used car? http://img79.echo.cx/img79/3410/rotfl20bt.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)
SS4ME 06-23-2005, 09:19 PM haha, that's funny. did it have type R badges? was it a used car? http://img79.echo.cx/img79/3410/rotfl20bt.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)
It was brand spanken new for $21,000 due to the Type R appearance upgrade!?! :rolleyes:
DC52NV 06-23-2005, 09:24 PM It was brand spanken new for $21,000 due to the Type R appearance upgrade!?! :rolleyes:
damn, well as long as they didn't misbadge it w/ a type R emblem. i put some type R appearance mods on my car. i just love how the R looks but i'm not putting any type R badges.
SS4ME 06-23-2005, 09:39 PM I can't tell the differance between the real badge and fake ones. The damn thing looked like a real Type-R to me. They even put black rims on the thing. That black and white looked nice. To bad it wasn't real!
DC52NV 06-23-2005, 09:42 PM I can't tell the differance between the real badge and fake ones. The damn thing looked like a real Type-R to me. They even put black rims on the thing. That black and white looked nice. To bad it wasn't real!
so you're saying that it did have a type R badge? i thought you just said it had appearance mods like lip kit, spoiler, etc. you should have sued them for false advertisement. :p
CadillacCTS 07-01-2005, 01:57 AM Did the SS have an "SS" sign on the rear of the car ? and was the "SS" badge on the inside of the car like in the SS-SC? Is the car quite a bit faster than a 2.2 L Cobalt ? Also, it appears that the wheels are the same as the SS-SC except polished, not painted.
I'm asking all of these questions because I have a 2006 Cobalt SS on order for my son and I just want a few details about the car.
According to GM the SS and the SS-SC have the same front ends except the SS-SC has extensions. However, I noticed that the lower front fascia that was left open on the SS-SC has a grille piece in it.
87camaroPA 07-01-2005, 06:44 AM Did the SS have an "SS" sign on the rear of the car ? and was the "SS" badge on the inside of the car like in the SS-SC? Is the car quite a bit faster than a 2.2 L Cobalt ? Also, it appears that the wheels are the same as the SS-SC except polished, not painted.
I'm asking all of these questions because I have a 2006 Cobalt SS on order for my son and I just want a few details about the car.
According to GM the SS and the SS-SC have the same front ends except the SS-SC has extensions. However, I noticed that the lower front fascia that was left open on the SS-SC has a grille piece in it.
Well the SS and the SS supercharged have some differences. The wheel are not the same in fact they are smaller in size and i do not think they have a high performance tire. And i am not sure why that was left open for the SS-SC but it might be left open to alow more air to caom though the opening. :)
Dan Richards 07-01-2005, 04:20 PM Monte Carlo SS's, every single one since 1970, have been automatics, so just having an automatic doesn't not make it an SS. In 2004 when the MCSS S/C came out, there were MCSS na3800 L36 cars and MCSS S/C sc3800 L67 cars both wearing SS badges. 2005 they changed the non-S/C SS to the LT, but thats not the point. SS was originally a way to get bucket seats and a center console in your car and a little extra chrome...not a performance package.
Stubbles 07-01-2005, 10:14 PM I am going to go against the majority on this one. I think calling it an "SS" is not such a bad idea...as long as people realize the differences between the SS S/C and the NonS/C SS. It's a way to get an SS 1) With an Auto (personally i think it's stupid to get an auto SS, but whatever) 2) it's going to be cheaper than the S/C SS. (Maybe not a whole lot less, but every penny counts!) I just hope that people don't start putting the S/C spoiler, extensions, etc. on their non S/C SS's.
Zilla 07-04-2005, 12:55 AM Did the SS have an "SS" sign on the rear of the car ? and was the "SS" badge on the inside of the car like in the SS-SC? Is the car quite a bit faster than a 2.2 L Cobalt ? Also, it appears that the wheels are the same as the SS-SC except polished, not painted.
I'm asking all of these questions because I have a 2006 Cobalt SS on order for my son and I just want a few details about the car.
According to GM the SS and the SS-SC have the same front ends except the SS-SC has extensions. However, I noticed that the lower front fascia that was left open on the SS-SC has a grille piece in it.
Yes, it had an "SS" on the rear of it (and the sides). I don't remember if it had "SS" on the inside of the car. I've never driven a 2.2L cobalt so I don't know how it compares to that, but I can say it isn't much slower than the SS-SC. I didn't look closely at the wheels so I don't know how they compare. Keep in mind, this is a pre-production too... so anything could change.
CadillacCTS 07-12-2005, 12:58 AM Yes, it had an "SS" on the rear of it (and the sides). I don't remember if it had "SS" on the inside of the car. I've never driven a 2.2L cobalt so I don't know how it compares to that, but I can say it isn't much slower than the SS-SC. I didn't look closely at the wheels so I don't know how they compare. Keep in mind, this is a pre-production too... so anything could change.
Awesome, thanks for all the info. My sons 2006 Cobalt SS Coupe is due here July 20th. Its loaded with everything except leather seats. We are getting the SS supercharged extensions put on the car also.
IrepCLEVO 08-16-2005, 12:45 PM i drove one today...they are a lil faster than the LT and a lil more cumfy inside
Sp00ner 08-16-2005, 01:41 PM I think it's a bad idea to call it an SS. I mean, the SS moniker tends to describe Chevy's top end option set for the model. Which in this case, seems to be the Supercharged SS. I don't think I've ever seen an SS, with two totally different engine packages like that. Maybe some small options here and there, but a totally different non-blown engine, and the LSJ, both in an SS, and a difference of 25% horsepower? I dunno about that...
midnght 08-16-2005, 02:10 PM Get used to it. Almost every car company has a "fake" in some way for or fashion. THe key is to know what the hell you are looking at. Even with the badges OFF an eclipse GS, GS-T, or GSX you can tell what you are looking at. Just got to raise your level of kowneldge.
phxSS 08-16-2005, 07:35 PM posted by CadillacCTS:
"We are getting the SS supercharged extensions put on the car also"
Great. Let the posers invade.
Man...white looks sick, I wish they made the SS/SC in white.
my-ss-is-yellow 08-17-2005, 09:42 AM yeah that is stupid cuz some kid in one of those non s/c ss raced my and i smashed him i thought it was a ls with just the badges but i found out they have vvt motors the ricers are gonna love racing those damn it!
h8beingbored 08-17-2005, 10:55 AM I recently saw one of these go up on ebay... white automatic 2.4L SS... and GM just released an advertisement in magazines for the 2.4L NA SS... but in the ad it didnt say anything about it being NA... SS is simply a marketing gimmick to sell this crap
IrepCLEVO 08-17-2005, 12:00 PM i dont see why everyone is mad that gm made this car...it gives a lot of people that cant drive stick an opportunity to drive a cobalt ss...people are gunna know the differances beteen the ss and the ss/sc...the rims are dif. colors...they are bigger on the ss/sc and the wing is much differant. no one really made a big fuss about to monte ss and the monte ss sc...but i guess that is a lot differant
Sp00ner 08-17-2005, 02:36 PM i dont see why everyone is mad that gm made this car...it gives a lot of people that cant drive stick an opportunity to drive a cobalt ss...people are gunna know the differances beteen the ss and the ss/sc...the rims are dif. colors...they are bigger on the ss/sc and the wing is much differant. no one really made a big fuss about to monte ss and the monte ss sc...but i guess that is a lot differant
If I drove a MonteCarlo, I'd be pissed. People here drive a Cobalt SS. That SS/SC thing is bad enough. Should just be SS to me. I promise you that if they started calling my car the Ion Redline Supercharged next year, and they released an Ion Redline with the same engine as the QuadCoupe, I'd be pissed too. Makes no sense to me at all. It's just further degrading the old SS moniker that USED to mean "I'm as bad-ass as it gets..." Now it just means, "I might be faster than a regular one, who knows..."
If you're talking abou the newer Monte's, well, the people that I associate with laugh at the MonteCarlo SS period. Alot of them used to own REAL MonteCarlo SSs back in the day. I'm not putting down the car, I'm quite fond of it in all honesty. I was unaware they made an SS, and an SS Supercharged... Chevy has enough abbreviations, that they don't need to use the SS one to describe the 'near-upper-class' cars. Why not Z** like they always used to be. Why not a Cobalt Z38, or something other than the SS badge. Have you seen the terrible press they've gotten for slapping that sucker on everything under the sun? Go ask a non-GM person about an SS car and see what they say about it. Now go find an old Mustang or Charger owner, and ask them how they feel about an old SS labled car. Ask the Charger guy what he thinks of Chrysler slapping 'Hemi' on the side of every car while you're at it.
Don't mean to be a dick, but I've been a Chevy/GM guy all my life, and their current use of the SS label has been pissing me off for years now...
It's just further degrading the old SS moniker that USED to mean "I'm as bad-ass as it gets..." Now it just means, "I might be faster than a regular one, who knows..."
Amen. I always thought of SS being pretty exclusive, now it seems like Chevy is throwing the badge all over the place. I mean don't get me wrong, I think the non-sc SS cobalt is nice...I just think it could do without the badge...maybe put a z## on it like the z24.
JMac88 08-17-2005, 06:54 PM From what i have heard the GM badge comes on all new 06's. They will be sticking them on all there other companies as well.
Its not that i am pissed that the made the 2.4L with an automatic, i am just pissed they called it an SS. When they did the advertising for the car it was made to look like the SS badges would only be on the high end. The 2.4L seems to be a good engine, but it is not high end. Its like the STI and the RS... subaru changed the badges over something as small as 2 doors vs 4, you would think 2 different motors would have the same effect.
Everyone write GM and petition :D :p
IrepCLEVO 08-17-2005, 08:50 PM I Go ask a non-GM person about an SS car and see what they say about it.
ok i went to the benz dealer down the street from my dealership...i talked to the owner about what he thought about GM throwin the ss badge on the impala, monte, cobalt, etc. he said it is a very good sales ploy for chevy. they get more money for a car that costs about the same to build as the non-ss...he said people see the ss and really would prefer to get that then the non ss...so there you go i asked an import guy what he thought and he gave gm props...haha so there ya go gm does it for more prfit and it DOES work
but dont get me wrong...i dont think they should sell the cobalt ss non s/c...a lot of people have been checkin the 2 we have...we may be selling one, the guy is coming back tomarrow...im just saying if you cant drive stick it is an opportunity for you to have a cobalt ss...but dont you think they should just make an ss/sc with an optional auto trans.?
IrepCLEVO 08-17-2005, 08:55 PM From what i have heard the GM badge comes on all new 06's. They will be sticking them on all there other companies as well.
they arent on the 06 Tahoes Suburbans or Trailblazers for some reason
JMac88 08-18-2005, 02:54 AM I would rather see a 2.0L S/C with an auto being called an SS then a 2.4L with an automatic being called an SS
Rocky 08-18-2005, 06:16 AM I would rather see a 2.0L S/C with an auto being called an SS then a 2.4L with an automatic being called an SS
yeah. especially the 4 door
Sp00ner 08-18-2005, 10:17 AM ok i went to the benz dealer down the street from my dealership...i talked to the owner about what he thought about GM throwin the ss badge on the impala, monte, cobalt, etc. he said it is a very good sales ploy for chevy. they get more money for a car that costs about the same to build as the non-ss...he said people see the ss and really would prefer to get that then the non ss...so there you go i asked an import guy what he thought and he gave gm props...haha so there ya go gm does it for more prfit and it DOES work
but dont get me wrong...i dont think they should sell the cobalt ss non s/c...a lot of people have been checkin the 2 we have...we may be selling one, the guy is coming back tomarrow...im just saying if you cant drive stick it is an opportunity for you to have a cobalt ss...but dont you think they should just make an ss/sc with an optional auto trans.?
Notice that none of them pointed out that the SS models are bad ass and very fast... I wasn't really talking about sales people either, they're looking at it from a different angle.
amerpwr 08-18-2005, 03:39 PM i agree with you IrepCLEVO on the SS/SC with optional auto tranny and maybe ss/sc in 4 door? and this car is out next month :)
Golf Girl 08-18-2005, 08:57 PM ...im just saying if you cant drive stick it is an opportunity for you to have a cobalt ss...but dont you think they should just make an ss/sc with an optional auto trans.?
Hello all :)
I am probably going to get flamed for saying this, but I agree with him! Chevy offered the last F-body Camaros with autos (including the SS), Corvettes always offered autos (except the Z06), etc. I think the Cobalt SS S/C should be given auto as an option.
Or, go back to the dual-shift gate ("his and hers") like on the late-60's Pontiac GTO. Or go with Chrysler's autostick or something.
Personally, I want a manual trans, but I can see a point of auto for everyday driving in traffic. The armrest is nice as well.
Thanks for your time. :)
gotboost 08-22-2005, 07:26 PM an ss automatic is a very good thing. i refuse to own one. but my fianc'e cant drive stick at all so its perfect for her. shes already got her mind made up on everything but a color. shes goin to get the four door ss. she took out a silver 2 door out for a test ride on tuesday. it had a 171 hp 2.4 and she wants one now.
i took out a red ss supercharged. reminded me of the good times i had in my srt-4. so im hooked now. just waiting and hoping that before next spring gm comes out and says awd cobalt ss comin soon. if not im gettin one with the lsd and recaro buckets
sorry to hear...errr read about your srt-4. hope you have better luck if/when you get your ss's.
IrepCLEVO 08-23-2005, 12:45 AM i talked to the owner not the salesman...and he said the 35th an. camaro was badass :D so there you go...but do you really think GM really cares about how fast their cars are...or how many they sell? think about it...cuz as long as they have a few fast cars winning awards aka the 2006 z06 they will sell cars
Eat Dodge Shit Fords 08-23-2005, 06:06 PM My father runs a Chevy dealership... They dont make an auto Cobalt SS...
wasey13 08-23-2005, 06:09 PM My father runs a Chevy dealership... They dont make an auto Cobalt SS...
He needs a new dealership. ;)
87camaroPA 08-23-2005, 06:12 PM My father runs a Chevy dealership... They dont make an auto Cobalt SS...
They make auto SS's they are not the supercharged one's they only got 2.4L engine's.
avro206 08-24-2005, 11:20 AM Awesome, thanks for all the info. My sons 2006 Cobalt SS Coupe is due here July 20th. Its loaded with everything except leather seats. We are getting the SS supercharged extensions put on the car also.
did your son get the car yet? How does he like it?
The NA SS shares alot of parts with the S/C SS
axles--both are 5 lug
interior
Both have exclusive engines
oil jet sparyed pistons
engine oil coolers
same brakes.
Differences:
transmissions
final drive ratios
wings
18 VS 17
Different suspensions
tires
higher compression ratio on the NA SS
Higher redline 6750rpm
variable valve timing on the 2.4L
more low end torque on the 2.4L
I just got my 2.4L SS 5 speed and love it! This is not that lame Monte Carlo SS VS S/C Monte Carlo SS----the 2.4L SS is alot closer to the S/C SS then the NA to the S/C Monte Carlo.
I will taking it to the track when its broken in. If I lose I will happy to say that its not a S/C SS
Golf Girl 08-24-2005, 09:05 PM avro206, congrats on the SS :D Now I want one. Too bad Chevy don't have Employee Pricing on it, I would go today and buy one.
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