We ran out at Fontana this weekend and made our first pass around 10:00. It ran an 11.98 @ 115mph. Our sixty foot times were a little off, it was about a 1.77. We were looking for a high to mid 11 pass and achieved that! So now the only place to go is down, so hopefully we'll have some more times for you in the near future. Let me know if anyone has any questions. :)

Please tell me theres atleast another .5 and 5mph to be gained with this Phase 5 package. Good runs, but for the money I'm not impressed.

what does the phase 5 package consist of?

Please tell me theres atleast another .5 and 5mph to be gained with this Phase 5 package. Good runs, but for the money I'm not impressed.

When we had our media day, we also ran 11.97 at 117mph. The car was running well then and now and will only get better. We are still figuring out alot about the car. Although the numbers may not seem that impressive to you right now, the great thing about this car is that it runs those numbers consistently. I know a lot of people who go faster, but they only can get one run before they blow the car up. Having a car that runs quickly and keep going rounds is worth a lot more than a car that will run 125mph every once in awhile. Hopefully we will be able to get you more information soon.

what does the phase 5 package consist of?

There are a number of modifications done to the phase 5. Unfortunately, because there are quite a few modifications done, i cant list them all. However, you can find out what the phase 5 consists of by going to the website or picking up one of GM's build books. In the book, it tells the specifics of whats inside and how they assembled it. Here is the website for that information. http://www.gmtunersource.com Take care :)

I love the phase 5 mods because it makes a 2.2liter engine producing 535hp reliable(which is key like Ms. Nocita noted), but it sucks that it's not the SS's engine :(

Have you (or anyone) heard of anything like the Phase 5 project happening with the S/C 2.0L engine besides the Twin Charge project with gravana?

I love the phase 5 mods because it makes a 2.2liter engine producing 535hp reliable(which is key like Ms. Nocita noted), but it sucks that it's not the SS's engine :(

Have you (or anyone) heard of anything like the Phase 5 project happening with the S/C 2.0L engine besides the Twin Charge project with gravana?
I cant say that I have. But if you find anything out about it, would you let me know? I'll also see if i can dig up some good info :)

If by some miraclous occurance i happen to find out before you do, you'll be the first person i tell :p Congrats on the badass times btw. 11s are really impressive with no nitrous (to me atleast). That and the fact that it's not detonating and rocketing into the stands after a few runs makes me want to get a normal cobalt and give it the phase 5 treatment :D

If by some miraclous occurance i happen to find out before you do, you'll be the first person i tell :p Congrats on the badass times btw. 11s are really impressive with no nitrous (to me atleast). That and the fact that it's not detonating and rocketing into the stands after a few runs makes me want to get a normal cobalt and give it the phase 5 treatment :D
Thanks for the congrats! We were really excited too. And the greatest part is that it has a lot more in it, we have just been playing it safe so we can get consistent for the races we've been running. Ive been racing a car that has had some trouble in the consistency department, so to finally have a car that is fast and reliable is a dream for any bracket racer. Im so glad to talk to some people who are as excited as i am :)

It really has 535 HP and barely got into the 11's.......? Or I guess the better question would be 535 HP and only trapping 115?

In a car that lightweight and with that kind of 60, Im going to guess its more around 400-425hp right now. So wheres the extra 100hp?

EDIT: After looking over the Phase 5 build sheet on that Gm website, why is this so important to everyone? It means nothing to anyone driving a street Cobalt. Its a friggin Sportsman race car.

It really has 535 HP and barely got into the 11's.......? Or I guess the better question would be 535 HP and only trapping 115?

The car does have 535 hp, and like i said before, it has a lot more in it. Instead of just going to the track and maxing the boost so we can get one really fast run, we are trying to run the car consistently so we can do well in brackets. However, we will be slowly turning up the boost and making some fast runs, and ill be sure to let you guys know about it. People need to understand that a car running 11's all day long is more valuable, at least to racers, than a car that runs 10.50's when it decides to not break. Although the car is very capable of considerably dropping the E.T, right now we are focusing on winning races. When we start pushing the car more, i'll be sure to tell you the times. Thanks :)

In a car that lightweight and with that kind of 60, Im going to guess its more around 400-425hp right now. So wheres the extra 100hp?

EDIT: After looking over the Phase 5 build sheet on that Gm website, why is this so important to everyone? It means nothing to anyone driving a street Cobalt. Its a friggin Sportsman race car.

The phase 5 cobalt is a racecar. However, its a race car that can be built from the street car with parts directly from GM. Although some people dont wish to have real race cars, the opportunity to build your own is there. Its just not for everyone i guess. Also, people dont need to build this exact car. There are a lot of other options that can be put on the car to make it quick, but keep it on the street. It really depends on what you're looking for.
And as far as the extra 100hp, it is already there. Like i've said many times before, we are not running this car hard. We have been working on consistency so we can win races. We may not be using it at the moment, but the car has all of that power. Hopefully ill be able to get you some more info soon. Thanks :)

It's awesome to see the car in the 11's congrats. :)

It's awesome to see the car in the 11's congrats. :)

Thanks a lot! And I'll try to keep you updated with new info. Take care :)

It's awesome to see the car in the 11's congrats. :)

Thank you! Good man Coleman.

I'm not trying to be a jerk or a smartass to everyone that's bagging the phase 5 package, but is it normal practice to take a car that hasn't even been around for a year to the track and run the wheels off of it? :confused: It seems like you wouldn't want to have to rebuild the car after every race when it hasn't really made a name for itself and doesn't have sponsors who throw money at it. Not to mention that it kills your ability to compete (doing well then having the car fall apart on you is up there on the list of top 50 things that suck for racers). Wins and good CONSISTENTLY SAFE times seems like the smart thing to be going for at the moment...now later on when everyone sees the potential in the Cobalts and sponsors start showering them with money, i suggest blowing the car apart trying to run 9s every other race :D

Let's start showing some better support for Phase 5 teams and stop knocking the car for not doing something it's NOT trying to do. (especially Nocita being that she's so present in the boards and the only person i see keeping us posted!) I mean come on...this isn't the SRT-4 forums :p

Thanks for that post. You're definately understanding what i was trying to say. In fact, I think you said it better :) Anyway, I'm still learning and my team and I are very new to the sport compact world. But Im willing to learn and again, i'm willing to answer questions regarding the car or driving the car. Thanks again for that positive post, its very refreshing and appreciated!! Take care

Thank you! Good man Coleman.

I'm not trying to be a jerk or a smartass to everyone that's bagging the phase 5 package, but is it normal practice to take a car that hasn't even been around for a year to the track and run the wheels off of it? :confused: It seems like you wouldn't want to have to rebuild the car after every race when it hasn't really made a name for itself and doesn't have sponsors who throw money at it. Not to mention that it kills your ability to compete (doing well then having the car fall apart on you is up there on the list of top 50 things that suck for racers). Wins and good CONSISTENTLY SAFE times seems like the smart thing to be going for at the moment...now later on when everyone sees the potential in the Cobalts and sponsors start showering them with money, i suggest blowing the car apart trying to run 9s every other race :D

Let's start showing some better support for Phase 5 teams and stop knocking the car for not doing something it's NOT trying to do. (especially Nocita being that she's so present in the boards and the only person i see keeping us posted!) I mean come on...this isn't the SRT-4 forums :p


No problem. I am happy the car is in the 11s so soon. That's awesome regardless of what it took to get there. I am a big fan of the 350z and when that first came out there was a team running 11s with spray. The car quickly blew up lol. I like your approach here and it's good to see another American FI 4-banger doing well. :)

Thanks for that post. You're definately understanding what i was trying to say. In fact, I think you said it better :) Anyway, I'm still learning and my team and I are very new to the sport compact world. But Im willing to learn and again, i'm willing to answer questions regarding the car or driving the car. Thanks again for that positive post, its very refreshing and appreciated!! Take care

The poster above you mentioned she. Would you be the Brittany Kindle that's mentioned in that article you linked us too?

The poster above you mentioned she. Would you be the Brittany Kindle that's mentioned in that article you linked us too?

No, Brittany Kindle is the other phase 5 running on the east coast. Im Erica Nocita, I run the phase 5 out here on the west coast. :)

No, Brittany Kindle is the other phase 5 running on the east coast. Im Erica Nocita, I run the phase 5 out here on the west coast. :)

Wow, two female phase 5 racers one for each coast. That's pretty cool. Nice to meet you Erica. It's always nice to see a female behind the wheel going fast.
:) I wish you continued success. It's an exciting time for domestic 4clys.

Seems to me that we need to not be focusing on this "only in the 11s" thing and be impressed that this car is doing as well as it is. Great job, E, and don't listen to the downers!

Seems to me that we need to not be focusing on this "only in the 11s" thing and be impressed that this car is doing as well as it is. Great job, E, and don't listen to the downers!

Thanks so much for your post. I feel the same way, and hopefully by the end of the season, more people will be excited about the great things the phase 5 is accomplishing on both east and west coasts! (IMBank) ;)

Yeah times sound good to me! Lot faster than what my vehicle does right now so I wont comlain! LOL :D

Hey Erica, exactly how many Phase 5 cars and/or driver's are there?

Yes, nice times!!... especially for a new platform. It's these experiences that will probably pave the way for aftermarket support. You have to sort out what is going to hold up, what is not, and what needs improved.
Speaking of which, is the Phase 5 on the stock tranny?

Yeah times sound good to me! Lot faster than what my vehicle does right now so I wont comlain! LOL :D

Hey Erica, exactly how many Phase 5 cars and/or driver's are there?

There are only two of us that are driving GM's phase 5 right now. Brittany Kindle and her team are running over on the east coast, and we're running here on the west. Two cars, two drivers :)

Yes, nice times!!... especially for a new platform. It's these experiences that will probably pave the way for aftermarket support. You have to sort out what is going to hold up, what is not, and what needs improved.
Speaking of which, is the Phase 5 on the stock tranny?
As far as I know its the 2.2L Ecotech and no I dont think its the stock tranny, I believe its a beefed up auto that you might be able to buy from Chevy? Am I right Erica?

Yes, nice times!!... especially for a new platform. It's these experiences that will probably pave the way for aftermarket support. You have to sort out what is going to hold up, what is not, and what needs improved.
Speaking of which, is the Phase 5 on the stock tranny?

I totally agree with you on the idea of testing this new car before we push it, there is so much to be learned! It's very exciting :) The transmission is not stock, it is the 4T65 Hydra-Matic trans. Although it is a trans built for a race car, it is made mostly of production parts, which is why it is relatively cheap compared to what other race tranny's would cost. :D And spending less is always more fun.

As far as I know its the 2.2L Ecotech and no I dont think its the stock tranny, I believe its a beefed up auto that you might be able to buy from Chevy? Am I right Erica?

All the parts on this car, including trans, can be purchased from GM. Thats one of the cool things about the phase 5, the parts to build it are all available in one place.

Ive been reading posts about this Phase 5 Cobalt for a couple days now, and I think its been very misleading to people. I have a feeling that people are under the impression that this is a tuned up and parts upgraded Cobalt when in reality it is a race car, not at all a street car. Granted these parts can be bought straight from GM, however this doesnt change the fact that it is not street legal, nor is it a Cobalt SS even, its a turbo charged 2.2 L, and I dont feel its fair to compare it to a stock Cobalt SS. I read one thread which the topic was when do you think we will be seing 12's and Erica replied that 12's are a thing of the past, however this is completely false, no one in the world right now (to my knowledge, please correct me if I'm wrong) is running 12's in a Chevy Cobalt SS. All I ask is that you do not confuse people by misleading them and comparing your race car to our Cobalt SS. The closest someone could come to taking a stock Cobalt LS 2.2 L and making it (while maintaining it being street legal) would be to purchase an aftermarket turbo charger, and changing much of the internal engine components (pistons, rings, head, exhaust manifold etc) I suppose this is feasable but I dont see why you would purchase a brand new Cobalt which isnt "Fast" (talking abou the LS not the supercharged SS) and instantly dump all that money into it to make it slightly faster then the stock supercharged SS, with crappier interior and less features, and in my opinion not as nice looking exterior... just my two cents.. and please don't interperate this post as me trolling, I havent insulted anyone and was just a little frustrated by the whole Phase 5 Cobalt being compared to or thought of as a feasable upgrade solution for the SS.

Ive been reading posts about this Phase 5 Cobalt for a couple days now, and I think its been very misleading to people. I have a feeling that people are under the impression that this is a tuned up and parts upgraded Cobalt when in reality it is a race car, not at all a street car. Granted these parts can be bought straight from GM, however this doesnt change the fact that it is not street legal, nor is it a Cobalt SS even, its a turbo charged 2.2 L, and I dont feel its fair to compare it to a stock Cobalt SS. I read one thread which the topic was when do you think we will be seing 12's and Erica replied that 12's are a thing of the past, however this is completely false, no one in the world right now (to my knowledge, please correct me if I'm wrong) is running 12's in a Chevy Cobalt SS. All I ask is that you do not confuse people by misleading them and comparing your race car to our Cobalt SS. The closest someone could come to taking a stock Cobalt LS 2.2 L and making it (while maintaining it being street legal) would be to purchase an aftermarket turbo charger, and changing much of the internal engine components (pistons, rings, head, exhaust manifold etc) I suppose this is feasable but I dont see why you would purchase a brand new Cobalt which isnt "Fast" (talking abou the LS not the supercharged SS) and instantly dump all that money into it to make it slightly faster then the stock supercharged SS, with crappier interior and less features, and in my opinion not as nice looking exterior... just my two cents.. and please don't interperate this post as me trolling, I havent insulted anyone and was just a little frustrated by the whole Phase 5 Cobalt being compared to or thought of as a feasable upgrade solution for the SS.

I totally understand what you are saying, and i dont think you are insulting anyone by any means. The phase 5 was built to show people, those who want to race anyway, that they can build an efficient, quick, and reliable race car with parts easily bought through GM. I guess i made the mistake of assuming people could obviously see that it is not a street legal car, but an opportunity to build a reliable race car with parts straight from GM. There are a lot of different options for colbalt owners to take advantage of, and of course not everyone wants a race car, but GM wants it to be easily available and relatively affordable to those who want a race car. Personally, I think the car looks great, performs well, and it goes rounds and wins races, thats what its made to do. I apologize if I in any way misled you. i'll be more careful with my choice of words. Good luck with your Cobalt. Take care :)

very nice runs!

Exactly how much does this whole package cost? I cant see it being very feasible to the average Joe who wants to go Sportsman racing on a budget. I cant imagine its really that "relatively affordable" compared to some of the more popular and current Sportsman platforms, especially seeing as how all the parts come from GM and not an aftermarket supplier.

very nice runs!

I'm with them!

Thats excellent news! I look forward to hearing new news! :cool:

I totally understand what you are saying, and i dont think you are insulting anyone by any means. The phase 5 was built to show people, those who want to race anyway, that they can build an efficient, quick, and reliable race car with parts easily bought through GM. I guess i made the mistake of assuming people could obviously see that it is not a street legal car, but an opportunity to build a reliable race car with parts straight from GM. There are a lot of different options for colbalt owners to take advantage of, and of course not everyone wants a race car, but GM wants it to be easily available and relatively affordable to those who want a race car. Personally, I think the car looks great, performs well, and it goes rounds and wins races, thats what its made to do. I apologize if I in any way misled you. i'll be more careful with my choice of words. Good luck with your Cobalt. Take care :)


I see what you are saying.... And chevy has it going for them IMO if they can build a car from factory to do that from there parts is impressive.

Hey GTP, I imagine it would be QUITE pricey!!! :eek:

I saw the kindle car out at the IAS show in Atlantic City. It looked to me like if you put some street tires and maybe a mufler it would make a great street car. It looked like all the lights and stuff worked. It even still had a working radio. It didn't have a back seat in but I have seen plenty of street/strip cars with the back seat removed for weight.

They were giving out their new cookbook and it had a detailed section on what went into building the car. It looked like they used alot of stuff available over the counter. They are offering to sell most of the stuff that you cant buy from the aftermarket. It did look like alot of work, but not more than I have seen in some of those Hondas at the track and shows.

wow didn't take long to get this car into the 11s

u got ne pics of this bad ass cobalt lemme c the motor 2 man never seen 1 yet

wow didn't take long to get this car into the 11s
Its not an SS, its a 2.2L Eco, turbo'd and some mo sh!t. Basically a drag car...

We ran out at Fontana this weekend and made our first pass around 10:00. It ran an 11.98 @ 115mph. Our sixty foot times were a little off, it was about a 1.77. We were looking for a high to mid 11 pass and achieved that! So now the only place to go is down, so hopefully we'll have some more times for you in the near future. Let me know if anyone has any questions. :)

60's were off with a 1.77? I'd love to get a 1.7 60', but I don't think that will happen until I upgrade the suspension more. If you're ever out in Phoenix let us know which track you'll be at; I'd love to come see an 11 sec Cobalt. Perhaps I'll have my SRT-4 into the 11's by then as well; it dyno'd @ 485whp/500ftlbs (on 110oct, street tune was 400whp on pump gas) last Sat and then that night ran a 12.3@121 w/ a 2.08 60', w/ no traction in 1st or 2nd, w/ 7.5" wide DOT's (I need to get some real slicks).

very nice times, but at 500+HP I would think the times should be quicker. What's the bottle neck here, it sounds liek something is holding the car back.
Turbo Freak over on the srtforums is running mid 11's on stage3...
a list of what he has done
"Stage 3 w/toys, HOM on, 24.5X8.5X15 M+H slicks, 3" downpipe,Borla catback, K+N drop in,MM's,LCA bushings, CM stage 4 clutch,160 thermostat, Fan switch, 100 lbs weight redux."
His time was 11.876@118.65


Eitherway congrats to a CSS hitting the 11's, hopefully many more to come.

and welcome to the forums Erica, hope to see you around posting more (and posting quicker times also)

The car does have 535 hp, and like i said before, it has a lot more in it. Instead of just going to the track and maxing the boost so we can get one really fast run, we are trying to run the car consistently so we can do well in brackets. However, we will be slowly turning up the boost and making some fast runs, and ill be sure to let you guys know about it. People need to understand that a car running 11's all day long is more valuable, at least to racers, than a car that runs 10.50's when it decides to not break. Although the car is very capable of considerably dropping the E.T, right now we are focusing on winning races. When we start pushing the car more, i'll be sure to tell you the times. Thanks :)

I would hope so, a street driven Stage 3R SRT runs 11.8@118 and drives home afterwards just have to put the street tires back on the front :)

**EDIT** hahahahahaha we were thinking the same dude!

congrads on a new platform car and getting it in those times that fast. that deserves a big thumbs up.

what a lot of downers on here don't realize it the R&D is not cheap, besides that we all know parts are not cheap either . to take a platform that hasn't been out not a year yet and hit those times are good.

and to those SRT guys.... nice times im impressed, guess i better start modding again... my best time sofar was a 12.21@114 with a 1.7 60 on bfg kdw2's (street tires) so more fuel mods a lil more ECU tuning and i'll be in the mid 11's .

congrads on a new platform car and getting it in those times that fast. that deserves a big thumbs up.

what a lot of downers on here don't realize it the R&D is not cheap, besides that we all know parts are not cheap either . to take a platform that hasn't been out not a year yet and hit those times are good.

and to those SRT guys.... nice times im impressed, guess i better start modding again... my best time sofar was a 12.21@114 with a 1.7 60 on bfg kdw2's (street tires) so more fuel mods a lil more ECU tuning and i'll be in the mid 11's .

agreed, but the fact is you can go out now buy a srt off the showroom floor, break it in and install stg 3 w/toys then put slicks on the frt and go racing, bam 12.0 or 11's are yours once you launch :eek: :D

im not familiar with the mopar upgrade packages if possiable could some link me to some info on it please.

well im not a real big fan on FWD + boost .. my integra was boosted but it was such a pain to get that car out the hole i just went back NA. with my EVO... boost controller fuel pump, set of cams, tbe, intake, ic piping, CLUTCH, and good ECU tune is how i got the #'s i have now... and im still on stock injectors, fuel rail, and turbo.

it is nice that the car companies are willing to support their products. i must say that is impressive.

http://mopar.com/m_perf_subcat.jsp?grp_id=3

Click on SRT-4 and then click on Turbo Upgrades.

im not familiar with the mopar upgrade packages if possiable could some link me to some info on it please.

well im not a real big fan on FWD + boost .. my integra was boosted but it was such a pain to get that car out the hole i just went back NA. with my EVO... boost controller fuel pump, set of cams, tbe, intake, ic piping, CLUTCH, and good ECU tune is how i got the #'s i have now... and im still on stock injectors, fuel rail, and turbo.

it is nice that the car companies are willing to support their products. i must say that is impressive.

SRT Stage 3R Upgrade kits (http://mopar.com/m_perf_showpart.jsp?SubSubSubGrpID=572) :D

SRT Stage 3R Upgrade kits (http://mopar.com/m_perf_showpart.jsp?SubSubSubGrpID=572) :D
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The mopar site uses cookies... the url's are only good for your computer :(

Well this tells the basics. http://www.mopar.com/srt_stage_3.htm
HP and TRQ rating have increased since the actual launch of stage 3 which is 310hp/325trq w/o HOM and 355hp/365trq w/ HOM.
High Octane Mode... basically you add all 100octane fuel hit the HOM switch and your power numbers go up to the above mentioned.
..and this is from Modernperformance website w/ dyno graph for comparison w/ and w/o HOM
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/srt_stage3kit.shtml

60's were off with a 1.77? I'd love to get a 1.7 60', but I don't think that will happen until I upgrade the suspension more.

Well I didn't get a 1.7 60' last night but I did get a 1.84 which was good enough to run an 11.77@123.7mph :D

http://www.azchatfield.net/miscpics/_private/timeslips_07222005.jpg

Will have to put up a Phase 5 Cobalt against my SRT-4 :D

Well I didn't get a 1.7 60' last night but I did get a 1.84 which was good enough to run an 11.77@123.7mph :D

http://www.azchatfield.net/miscpics/_private/timeslips_07222005.jpg

Will have to put up a Phase 5 Cobalt against my SRT-4 :DThat's more like the times I would expect from your car. Nice run!

I see potential in the Phase 5s, but I can see where they are taking it easy learning them also.
But it must be kinda sad to pull the trailer in and take the Phase 5 off only to get beat by an SRT-4 or import (naawwwwz! :lol) that was driven to the show.
But reliability over "one-shot wonders" any day of the week for me. That's why I like the MOPAR upgrades. Wish Chevy would come out with something like that that DOESN'T involve removing the engine and rebuilding the internals and swapping out the tranny.

We went to Irwindale a few weeks back and anyone that really runs a fast car or has driven one can tell you that the car is only at about 70/80% if that. We got a copy of the build book at IAS and also got to see Kindals car and even talked to Russ form GM. Drivers know it is better to take time to learn the cr before you use all the power. Plus why show all your cards on the first hand ? Good job to both the teams with the Phase 5 cars - ps we just pick up our Cobalt at Mark Chris Chevy :D Hope to see you guys at BOTI this weekend.

Jason Whitfield

Hey Everyone! Just wanted to give you the updated schedule for this weekend. We will be testing the Cobalt at Irwindale Dragstrip tonight (Thursday). On Saturday, we will be at Fontana for the Battle of the Imports race, and then on Sunday, we will be back at Irwindale for the Summit Series Race. Hopefully we will be able to see a few of you out there! I'll be sure to post our times and results for you guys! I hope everyone is doing well. take care :cool: