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Black2009turbocobalt
08-30-2008, 10:26 AM
Alright guys, just traded in my 06 ss sc for the new 09 ss tc.....having problems finding performance parts exactly for the 09. Do I have to wait or am i missing a bad ass cobalt site?

skoal*boy
08-30-2008, 04:03 PM
dude i dont think they started makeing upgrade parts for it yet. And how did you get on so early?

kaiah723
08-30-2008, 07:55 PM
www.gmaccessoriesstore.com. they don't have much yet but they got cat back exhaust and intake.

Black2009turbocobalt
09-03-2008, 05:29 PM
hmm.....well the exhaust is the same cat back exhaust that chevrolet offers as an accessory......thanks anyways....its prettty fuckin sweet though, definately a huge change in power delivery and acceleration....

Black2009turbocobalt
09-03-2008, 07:19 PM
dude i dont think they started makeing upgrade parts for it yet. And how did you get on so early?

I'm lucky....I was driving down the road in my 06 ss sc and i saw this gorgeous black car......I drove in and told them I wanted it that day, they gave me 18k for my car as a trade in and sold me the 09 for 24k.....the car had been delivered that day, and as of that day there had only been like 80 sold nationwide.....luck

TurboTechRacing
09-04-2008, 03:23 PM
PM us if you have questions, we carry a lot of parts for the SS/TC we have one here to verify part fit up also.

Bow Tie Virgin
09-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Has anybody put the upgraded Header & Exhaust on there SS/TC yet? If so, how much extra power can I get with them? Will it sound good?

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-07-2008, 12:25 AM
a tc/ss doesn't have a "header"... no one has a CAI out yet(several vendors are working on them), Synapse Motorsport has a 3" downpipe out but its an offroad pipe only, Hahn is working on a catted one... hahn has a PPC out(programmer) that is like $995 or you can go the HPtuners route(the best route) for $600... with a TUNE ONLY, no other bolt-ons the LNFs are putting down 290whp, with a cai and downpipe, I suspect we'll be at 300+whp...

BRING ON THE STAGES DAMN IT!

lol...

JPizzle
09-07-2008, 09:27 PM
Yep. Not much is out for it yet, unfortunately..... But there are vendors working on it!

rukkee
09-07-2008, 11:26 PM
Rumor has it that the stage kits for the SS/TC have been shelved , so don't hold your breath for them.

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-09-2008, 11:28 PM
most of those rumors come from S/c Cobalt and SRT-4 owners, lol

Black2009turbocobalt
09-12-2008, 02:50 AM
Rumor has it that the stage kits for the SS/TC have
been shelved , so don't hold your breath for them.

stages 1-4 made by gm are already available, but with stage 3 and 4 it eliminates air conditioning, like they did with the 06

Black2009turbocobalt
09-12-2008, 02:51 AM
Rumor has it that the stage kits for the SS/TC have
been shelved , so don't hold your breath for them.

stages 1-4 made by gm are already available, but with stage 3 and 4 it eliminates air conditioning, like they did with the 06

Black2009turbocobalt
09-12-2008, 02:51 AM
Rumor has it that the stage kits for the SS/TC have
been shelved , so don't hold your breath for them.

stages 1-4 made by gm are already available, but with stage 3 and 4 it eliminates air conditioning, like they did with the 06

skoal*boy
09-13-2008, 05:17 AM
sorry but did you have to say that 3 times!!! LOL

kaiah723
09-13-2008, 05:25 PM
this may be a stupid question, and ive got a couple of drinks in me but what website do i find stage kits for ss/tc at

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-15-2008, 01:29 AM
they aren't out yet...

rukkee
09-15-2008, 12:58 PM
most of those rumors come from S/c Cobalt and SRT-4 owners, lol

lol right , i personally could care less either way. I doubt TC owners will see a warrantied GM stage kit. The f35 is rated at 260 Ft lbs of torque , and gm did alot of work keeping it at that rating with their stock tune.

DJOrtiz
09-17-2008, 03:33 AM
to the OP, its always gonna be slow when the model is new... fabricators need some to time, especially if you want it done right...

before you know it.. there will be performance mods out of the ass for the TC...

besides its prolly easier to make mods for...

Black2009turbocobalt
09-18-2008, 02:58 PM
lol right , i personally could care less either way. I doubt TC owners will see a warrantied GM stage kit. The f35 is rated at 260 Ft lbs of torque , and gm did alot of work keeping it at that rating with their stock tune.

gm already has.....stage 2 is costin about 1300.00 plus install

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-19-2008, 03:26 AM
yelp, the stages have been let out of the bag, stage one will bump the cars to 290hp... so far its the only CONFIRMED stage... more are "rumored"

Black2009turbocobalt
09-21-2008, 03:15 PM
So, I need some help on this one too....

What would give my car the most acceleration, using a budget of like $5000.00?

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-22-2008, 02:21 AM
right now, here is pretty much what is available:

from synapse, charge piping - $500

http://www.synapseturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SM&Product_Code=syn-syn-chp-001&Category_Code=intercoolers

and their 3" downpipe - $349

http://www.synapseturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SM&Product_Code=syn-syn-dwp-001&Category_Code=features


the Hahn Tuner - $995

http://www.turbosystem.com/ProjectVehicles/New_Folder/Cobalt/CobaltSS-TC%20PPC.htm


as far as intakes, no one has one, but I just ordered to parts to build a spectre tonight, the part numbers for Jegs, Summit, or wherever you decide to order from are:

Spectre MAF sensor mount:

part # 9405 - $29.99 Jegs.com

3" Universal Tube Kit:

part # 8208 - $44.95 Jegs.com

45 Degree 3" Angle Tubing:

Part # 8738 - $13.95 Jegs.com

Spectre 3" 6X10.25" Cone Filter:

Part # 9732 - $32.99 Jegs.com



right now, that is pretty much all you can do... no companies have a CAI out, so you have to build your own, mods are limited... be patient, these cars are putting down 300whp with a tune and a couple of bolt-ons, it'll be worth the wait

i'm going to wait for Hahn's catted downpipe before I get one personally... and before I get a tune, I want to see what GM's new tune for the LNF upgrade is like after its released.... I know I won't gain anything with the cai until I get a tune, so right now it'll basically be a sound mod... If Gm does with the LNF kit like the sc balts stage II(which was setup to work with bolt-ons), then i'll probably stick with their stock LNF upgrade tune, if people aren't seeing a lot of gains with GM's tune, i'll go a different route... in a turbo car, unless you plan on getting a tune, you are wasting your time modding... right now, our ECM will NOT let you run more than 16psi, when you 1st add an intake you'll see 18-19psi, then the pcm "learns" the CAI, see what its doing, and shuts it down... thus eliminating any gains you'd see from the CAI... meaning, without a tune, all you are doing is making the turbo spool and blow off louder... which I will be fine with for now

WICKED
09-22-2008, 03:31 PM
a tc/ss doesn't have a "header"... no one has a CAI out yet(several vendors are working on them), Synapse Motorsport has a 3" downpipe out but its an offroad pipe only, Hahn is working on a catted one... hahn has a PPC out(programmer) that is like $995 or you can go the HPtuners route(the best route) for $600... with a TUNE ONLY, no other bolt-ons the LNFs are putting down 290whp, with a cai and downpipe, I suspect we'll be at 300+whp...

BRING ON THE STAGES DAMN IT!

lol...

i wouldnt wait around for gm stage kits. there have been numerous sources saying they wont make them because they dont want to warranty.

just leave it to hahn

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-22-2008, 11:02 PM
yeah that was the rumor... until this:

Subject: SPO - Bulletin ACC08-030 - LNF Turbo Upgrade Kits for Solstice, Sky, Cobalt, and HHR

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To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER, Pontiac (including MD) and Saturn

DESCRIPTION:

The new warranty labor operation code R9224 is to be used for warranty claims on all Turbo Upgrade Kit components for Solstice, Sky, Cobalt, and HHR. This warranty code also includes HHR utilizing the Turbo Kit with an automatic transmission. This does not include SAAB products.

EFFECTIVE DATE:

Immediately

There was an email address attached and so I sent a message asking what this was. The reply stated this is an upgrade kit to take these vehicles to 290 hp and more information would be coming shortly."

"This is for a kit that we are getting ready to release for the Sky Redline, Solstice GXP, HHR SS, and Cobalt SS. It will be a turbo upgrade kit for all of the 2.0l Turbo LNF engines. It will raise the HP on these cars from 260 to 290hp. Keep watching for the release.





and right now, it looks as though one "stage" is all we get... so you can't even call it a stage, its an "upgrade" which it has been dubbed, and GM already has an operation code for it, thus meaning they WILL warranty it

WICKED
09-23-2008, 09:06 AM
ok...what is incorporated with this upgrade? you say they are making one but no one knows what it consists of? just like every other person who says theyre making a kit.

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-24-2008, 02:01 AM
well, its not out yet obviously... so we don't know... however, they wouldn't be getting warranty work order codes in place if there was no upgrade coming... why would you warranty parts that aren't going to be created???


i figure its just going be a ECM reflash and possibly a fuel pump upgrade, etc...

it won't be injectors, the ones we have are NO WHERE CLOSE to maxing out...

with just a reflash with Hptuners/Hahns tuner, these cars are seeing 285whp, so it'd be easy for GM to just do a few small things and a reflash and make a good bit of extra power...

WICKED
09-24-2008, 11:23 AM
this doesnt make since. some tuners have made over 300tq and i believe over 300 hp with only a hptune.

gm might as well not introduce an upgrade if its gonna suck.

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-24-2008, 11:00 PM
no with a tune only, tuners are seeing 275-285whp, which I have already stated and you are correct, they are making actually about 320 ft.-lbs of torque...

however here is my question:

if you can get a tune from GM to bump you into that neighborhood and STILL have your warranty, wouldn't you rather do that then have 10 more whp and NO warranty???

besides, we don't know what these cars will actually dyno once the upgrade hits, and if they are doing these ratings with the sky/solstice(which they seem to be doing), us Cobalt guys will get the benefit of higher numbers, due to lack of drivetrain loss...

i'm sorry but if with the kit and bolts on for example you have say a 12.90 car with GM parts/bolt-ons as opposed to a 12.70 car with an aftermarket tune/bolt-ons... i'm taking the slower car

besides, there is nothing in writing saying GM HAS to put out upgrades for this car, we are lucky if they do... most companies don't... its seems as though its now a matter of when rather than if, but as far as what they offer, i'm not bitching... if they allow me to get 30more hp and keep the warranty, more power to them... I mean MOST dealers(i know mine won't) aren't going to void your warranty for simple bolt-ons, so even after the kit we'll be able to get probably 20-30 more hp out of them without the dealers calling foul... now when you go to changing turbos and raising the boost(i.e. a tune they didn't do), well you can throw your warranty out the damn window, and its much deserved, GM isn't supposed to warranty your race car, which is why I would have NOT been surprised if they would have skipped this upgrade all together, Dodge bit the bullet with the Srt-4 Mopar kits, and its why a tune and bolt-ons is all I ever want... once I get it paid for, well, then I may go from there

WICKED
09-24-2008, 11:38 PM
damn i said that earlier and someone told me they made over 300 hp! damnit lol

as far as keeping the warranty, if thats a main point to you, then i would advise to get the gmpp. Personally, ill do smart mods and research things idk and have a good tuner tune my car. Its all in the tune. hahn is going to be coming out here soon with some great stuff for the tc guys. why have a 320/320 warrantied car when you can have wayyy better numbers and not have to worry about goiung in for warranty work. and besides, the dealer cannot void your warranty unless there is aftermarket products causing the problem. If your radio stops working, they wont void it because of your CAI. doing smart, thought out mods will allow you to have a better, stronger car, that is keeping warranty for most things that are going to need to be fixed. i.e. many interior items

04GTP-WhatLag?
09-26-2008, 12:47 AM
I know that, but Diesel owners and their banks kits have pissed dealers off beyond belief, and so now if they detect mods, they will bitch...

I know all about the Magnunson-Moss Warranty Act, BUT here is the way that scenario would play out:

GM denies you warranty claim, you threaten legal action, they impound your car to build a case(which they can do)... so guess what, you are making payments on a car while they have it, you get it back(not fixed, they'd probably have it 6+ months just out of spite), and you get to wait until it goes to court(like 3 or 4 years), all while having a broken car...

yeah that act isn't looking so mighty right now is it, no doubt its there, but most people can't afford to push it

a lot of people are confused by laws and acts, no doubt there is a law that will support a lot of different scenarios, the question is, do you have the time and FUNDS to push said act???

for example, the '08+ Cobalt SS's now have the Bosch MED9.6 ECM, which means GM can detect how many times its been flashed, and if THEY didn't do the flashing(i.e. the LNF upgrade), if you have any kind of drivetrain issue, your warranty just went bye-bye... Now according to the "act", they'd have to prove the ECM being reflashed by you caused the problem, but like I said, do you really want to spend years and thousands of dollars with a broken car to probably end up losing in court anyway???

WICKED
09-26-2008, 12:42 PM
3-4 years are you kidding? if your a/c breaks, and all you have is a cai, theyre going to impound your car? gtfo

why dont you just become a car enthusiast and learn about your car and plan out smart mods. its really that easy.

04GTP-WhatLag?
10-08-2008, 01:27 AM
they aren't going to bitch if its your Air conditioner, i'm talking something in the powertrain... If GM is looking at $1000+ in parts to fix your warranty claim, you can damn well bet the are going to go over your car with a fine tooth comb... and if they find anything out of line in the ECM or any traces of anything that was out of line, you can forget getting your car fixed...

and if you tried to take them to court with the Magnunson-Moss Act, it'd be like 2 years before the court would actually take your case, and yeah they would impound your car for evidence to build a case...

in which all they'd do is show the data in which the tables in your ECM were reading(or had read) over the stock values, meaning they'd been altered and you would be fucked.. the act is so that if your throw a Fram Air filter on for example, they can't say "oh you didn't use AC Delco, we are voiding your warranty!"... not so people can ALTER their cars, that is where people are confused, it basically applies to aftermarket OEM parts(brake pads, filters, etc.)... not tunes, downpipes, cais, etc...

now with the being said MOST dealers are lenient on CAIs, exhaust, and other minor mods, but they don't HAVE to be...

its best to know your dealer and when buying a car, simply ASK...

"hey if I put a CAI on this car, will it void the warranty?" and if they say "no"... GET IT IN WRITING, that way if something comes up, you have the edge... word of mouth does not hold up in court

WICKED
10-08-2008, 11:35 AM
solution: dont suck at life, and get a good tune

04GTP-WhatLag?
10-08-2008, 11:48 PM
problem: a lot of times, powertrains won't hold much power over stock...

the LNF has been around for a few years, the LNF mated to this tranny, HAS NOT... so anyone who is adding 50whp with their "good tune" is going to be up shit creek if these cars WON'T hold 300whp very long...

also, GM updated the output numbers, the cobalts kit will be 315hp:

The Cobalt kit will be 315 hp @ 4800 rpm [+55] = GM Part number 19212670.
The kit for 290 hp @ 5200 rpm [+30] is for the HHR with an automatic transmission.

"The Californa Air Resources Board (CARB) published a CARB cert for this tune today. It was executed on Aug 22nd. This means that this tune will be 50 state legal, does in fact exist, and is probably close to release.

From the cert:

"The LNF Turbocharged Ecotec Upgrade Kit includes a calibration update, two mass air flow/intake air temperature sensors (TMAP sensors) to replace the stock manifold absolute pressure sensor and the TMAP sensor, and installation hardware."

The hardware part number is 12626990.

The calibration part numbers are:

2007 auto trans : 12625958
2007 manual trans : 12625959
2008 auto trans without electronic vacuum pump for brake assist : 12625952
2008 manual trans without electronic vacuum pump for brake assist : 12625954
2008 auto trans with electronic vacuum pump for brake assist : 12625951
2008 manual trans with electronic vacuum pump for brake assist : 12625953

2008 chevy hhr auto trans : 12625956
2008 chevy hhr manual trans : 12625957
2008 chevy cobalt manual trans : 12625955




so there is your 300whp from a "good tune" and you still get to keep your warranty...

WICKED
10-09-2008, 12:45 AM
spec clutch, fidanza flywheel

quit cut n pasting useless info

knoxbox
10-10-2008, 07:50 PM
spec clutch, fidanza flywheel

quit cut n pasting useless info

actually i don't see how you consider that useless info maybe to you, but to the tc owners its welcomed information im sure... its more info than the last copy and paste job...

04GTP-WhatLag?
10-12-2008, 10:52 PM
right now, all the information that is coming out is "leaked" information, Sema will be interesting this year though...

flash
10-13-2008, 06:35 PM
how much do the stage one kits cost?

04GTP-WhatLag?
10-23-2008, 02:30 AM
pricing hasn't been announced, I called my dealership to see if they had the part #s, they do... but the availability date and pricing has not been released... I expect more light will be shed at SEMA

Black2009turbocobalt
10-26-2008, 08:39 AM
pricing hasn't been announced, I called my dealership to see if they had the part #s, they do... but the availability date and pricing has not been released... I expect more light will be shed at SEMA

i think im just going to go with hahnracecraft.com after like 3 g's my car will be a low 12 high 11 car......way too simple......plus its all bolt ons, except the ppc tuner, which even then the tuner can retune the car to stock and i can take off the bolt ons and take it in for warrenty.....only thing im worried about is the dealership somehow having a way to tell if it was ever tuned differently

04GTP-WhatLag?
10-30-2008, 01:40 AM
they do, hence why my Cobalt isn't already tuned, I have $1500 set aside for mods, but at the same time, I bought the extended warranty, so it'd be pretty fucking retarded to have bought said warranty and then void it with the Hahn PPC tuner, when GM will have a tune out in a few months that will still net over 300whp with bolt-ons, if I were planning on taking the car further, I wouldn't worry about the warranty(and wouldn't have bought the warranty)... But 300-315whp is all i'm looking for

Black2009turbocobalt
11-03-2008, 11:14 AM
this whole new car with no performance parts sucks ass.....now im thinking about just going to some nitrous or alcohol injection.....pros cons? i was thinkin about just a 50 shot of nitrous....will that fuck up my engine? some people tell me it will, and some say it wont....is the alcohol injection going to work even close to as good as nitrous?

One-Bullet-Banta
11-04-2008, 10:01 AM
Nitrous = Stupidity, Hahn has exhaust and is close to have intercooler and piping upgrades as well as intake and downpipe, adm has a downpipe for the ss hhr dunno if it bolts up to the cobalt ss or not, i love my t/c ss sedan so far and im waiting to hear back from the shop on what kinda pricing i can get on the 3" hahn cat-back, ppc tuning for the ss t/c alone brings it to near 300hp its like a 16% increase in power

knoxbox
11-04-2008, 11:53 AM
nitrous only = stupidity to those that rag the shit out of their car, its actually quite a safe and cheap alternative for FI power... you just have to know what your doing.

WICKED
11-04-2008, 02:14 PM
this whole new car with no performance parts sucks ass.....now im thinking about just going to some nitrous or alcohol injection.....pros cons? i was thinkin about just a 50 shot of nitrous....will that fuck up my engine? some people tell me it will, and some say it wont....is the alcohol injection going to work even close to as good as nitrous?

intake, exhaust, tune, 50 shot and call it a day.

Black2009turbocobalt
11-04-2008, 06:32 PM
nitrous only = stupidity to those that rag the shit out of their car, its actually quite a safe and cheap alternative for FI power... you just have to know what your doing.

im very new to this shit, and everything i know is either from here or from other guys with srt4s and mustangs.....i am not gunna lie, i pretty much dont know shit about cars and whats good for them or what they can take...tryin to learn though.....im for sure getting all of hahns shit, ppc tuner, exhaust, downpipe, intercooler, and 20g turbo.....in march.....and i wanna spray a 50 shot with it, and have the spray by itself now until march.....so as long as im not using a shit load of nitrous back to back i should be fine? i would probably go through a bottle every 2 weeks or so.....is that too much for the engine to be ok?

WICKED
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
if youre getting a turbo upgrade n2o is going to be uselss. Youre going to be making so much power that traction is going to rape you, unless you set up stages and even then its not worth it.

Black2009turbocobalt
11-07-2008, 03:27 PM
if youre getting a turbo upgrade n2o is going to be uselss. Youre going to be making so much power that traction is going to rape you, unless you set up stages and even then its not worth it.

so should i just keep the stock turbo and get a boost controller and make it boost like 25 with spray or would it be better to just get the 20 g? all im looking for is 1/4 mile time, and good low end power.

WICKED
11-07-2008, 05:21 PM
its just depends what you wanna do. essentially you could upgrade turbo and spray, but its just not practical.

personally, idk what i would pick. if you race on the street, i would say go turbo.

Wickedss2005
11-09-2008, 01:00 PM
Man, you people on css.com need to get on the ball w/ checking on HPTuners. It is exceptionally better than Hahn's PPC tuner. Why not spend $600 and be able to fully tune every aspect of the way the motor runs and manages itself instead of a quick fix for $300 more??? It boggles my mind

Black2009turbocobalt
11-13-2008, 10:43 AM
Man, you people on css.com need to get on the ball w/ checking on HPTuners. It is exceptionally better than Hahn's PPC tuner. Why not spend $600 and be able to fully tune every aspect of the way the motor runs and manages itself instead of a quick fix for $300 more??? It boggles my mind

hahn ppc tuner is alot simpler, and hahn ppc tuner tunes the car just fine for me. drops almost a whole second off of the 1/4 mile time....thats plenty

04GTP-WhatLag?
11-14-2008, 12:35 AM
yeah, but then when you get ready to mod more extensively, there you are... and no two cars are the same, you and I can put the same mods on our cars(or even stock), scan them and come back with totally different results, meaning the optimum tune for my car, is not the optimum tune for your car... Canned tunes are not a very good route to go... the GM stages will be a canned tune, the only difference is, you have a warranty... if you are voiding your warranty, you might as well get a really good tune, as opposed to paying twice the amount for a shitty tune....

get with Martin on GMroadsters.com, they are now offering tunes for the '08-'09 Cobalt SS's... they send you a lap top(you need wireless internet), you go and do some scans with the laptop connected to your OBD sensor), come back to your house, set the laptop up to your wireless connection, connect to their server, and they can look at your scans and custom tune the ECM through the laptop based on your scans and their tuning software(they can completely control the laptop), so essentially you are getting a dyno tune without actually getting on a dyno, a very kick ass setup... after they tune the ECM, you flash it to your car, you do another run, post the scans to them again through the laptop on their server, and they make sure everything is optimum...

best news: it cost $400...

they have HPtuners suite and some other program loaded into the laptop, you also have to sign an agreement saying if anything happens to the laptop(not shipping related) you are responsible for the cost(around $3500)

a guy named Psykostevo on css.net is their tuner, very cool, informative guy... has had cars put down 290whp on a tune ONLY

stagezero
11-14-2008, 01:41 AM
this whole new car with no performance parts sucks ass.....now im thinking about just going to some nitrous or alcohol injection.....pros cons? i was thinkin about just a 50 shot of nitrous....will that fuck up my engine? some people tell me it will, and some say it wont....is the alcohol injection going to work even close to as good as nitrous?

Dont mean to come off as a jerk but OMG! is that all everyone ever talks about? nitris this nitris that.....blah blah blah blah blah! i hate people who who put nitris on their car and call it fast. lol. i have a mid to high 11 second SS SC with only like 2.5 thousand put into it without nitris. come on guys nitris is the easy way out. the lazy way. plus i c most of u dont even know how meth injection works or what the benifits are from it. nitris yes is a great power adder but it puts extra strain on ur engine that already has strain on it from uping the boost. so why do that to ur engine and kill its life( a 50 shot wont do shit to that engine though so ur good on that). i have meth injection on my car and i got 87whp off of it and thats a 37% meth mix i get 98 from a 48% meth mix. meth/ water injection has more benifits than nitris without the damaging effects and u get as much power from it with a good tune. meth helps to cool the air as it enter the engine. it acts as high octain gas at a cheaper price. helps prevent detnation so ur computer can give u more timing when u wanna up the boost also due to higher octain it has. helps lower the exhaust temp goin through ur turbo from the water it has in the meth mix making the turbo work better and stay cooler,and i pay $1.67 for a gallon of water meth mix where as u pay like $40 to fill a bottle. all i do is put my jug of meth in my freezer and poof u have 15 degree meth that cools any turbo and SC so there is no heat soak with a SC and u get instant full boost as soon as it starts sprayin. so i ask u guys....what is there not to like about it? now ur educated so u decide. im new to this forum but i know enough about cars and so on, if u have any questions i might be able to help. as far as i know Hahn is the one i have been seein with the most parts out for it so far.

Black2009turbocobalt
11-14-2008, 11:36 AM
Dont mean to come off as a jerk but OMG! is that all everyone ever talks about? nitris this nitris that.....blah blah blah blah blah! i hate people who who put nitris on their car and call it fast. lol. i have a mid to high 11 second SS SC with only like 2.5 thousand put into it without nitris. come on guys nitris is the easy way out. the lazy way. plus i c most of u dont even know how meth injection works or what the benifits are from it. nitris yes is a great power adder but it puts extra strain on ur engine that already has strain on it from uping the boost. so why do that to ur engine and kill its life( a 50 shot wont do shit to that engine though so ur good on that). i have meth injection on my car and i got 87whp off of it and thats a 37% meth mix i get 98 from a 48% meth mix. meth/ water injection has more benifits than nitris without the damaging effects and u get as much power from it with a good tune. meth helps to cool the air as it enter the engine. it acts as high octain gas at a cheaper price. helps prevent detnation so ur computer can give u more timing when u wanna up the boost also due to higher octain it has. helps lower the exhaust temp goin through ur turbo from the water it has in the meth mix making the turbo work better and stay cooler,and i pay $1.67 for a gallon of water meth mix where as u pay like $40 to fill a bottle. all i do is put my jug of meth in my freezer and poof u have 15 degree meth that cools any turbo and SC so there is no heat soak with a SC and u get instant full boost as soon as it starts sprayin. so i ask u guys....what is there not to like about it? now ur educated so u decide. im new to this forum but i know enough about cars and so on, if u have any questions i might be able to help. as far as i know Hahn is the one i have been seein with the most parts out for it so far.

the whole point of this discussion is so i can see what everyone says because i dont know shit. hahn is about the only company i can find, and as far as a meth kit goes, i have one now, which the nitrous option is out the door, even tho these blocks can hold up to a 100 shot.....im goin with everything cryo2 can give me.....they're basically sendin me free shit all the time ever since i went through the whole carsponsers.com thing. thought it was a rip off, but i took a chance and it pays off......if u get sponsered, you pay a 1 time fee of $100, but after buying something worth over $200 you make your money worth it.

WICKED
11-14-2008, 02:21 PM
Dont mean to come off as a jerk but OMG! is that all everyone ever talks about? nitris this nitris that.....blah blah blah blah blah! i hate people who who put nitris on their car and call it fast. lol. i have a mid to high 11 second SS SC with only like 2.5 thousand put into it without nitris. come on guys nitris is the easy way out. the lazy way. plus i c most of u dont even know how meth injection works or what the benifits are from it. nitris yes is a great power adder but it puts extra strain on ur engine that already has strain on it from uping the boost. so why do that to ur engine and kill its life( a 50 shot wont do shit to that engine though so ur good on that). i have meth injection on my car and i got 87whp off of it and thats a 37% meth mix i get 98 from a 48% meth mix. meth/ water injection has more benifits than nitris without the damaging effects and u get as much power from it with a good tune. meth helps to cool the air as it enter the engine. it acts as high octain gas at a cheaper price. helps prevent detnation so ur computer can give u more timing when u wanna up the boost also due to higher octain it has. helps lower the exhaust temp goin through ur turbo from the water it has in the meth mix making the turbo work better and stay cooler,and i pay $1.67 for a gallon of water meth mix where as u pay like $40 to fill a bottle. all i do is put my jug of meth in my freezer and poof u have 15 degree meth that cools any turbo and SC so there is no heat soak with a SC and u get instant full boost as soon as it starts sprayin. so i ask u guys....what is there not to like about it? now ur educated so u decide. im new to this forum but i know enough about cars and so on, if u have any questions i might be able to help. as far as i know Hahn is the one i have been seein with the most parts out for it so far.

who are you? lets see this 11sec car you speak of.

stagezero
11-14-2008, 10:04 PM
who are you? lets see this 11sec car you speak of.

well as soon as i figure out how to load images i will. i was trying to do it yesterday. but im currently deployed to iraq and the net here sucks and sometimes it wont load the whole page and links on the page wopnt work lol......it sucks lol. but let me know how and ill see if i can do it. read my sig and that will tell u MOST of what i got done to it.....i got a little more but it was free so i didnt put it on there. btw im John im new here.

WICKED
11-14-2008, 10:13 PM
a 2.5" and no H/E

ouch

stagezero
11-15-2008, 05:02 AM
a 2.5" and no H/E

ouch

yeah that says alot for it lol but ill just have to load the imges on photobucket and put the links on here if u guys want to see it

WICKED
11-15-2008, 12:10 PM
just use img code from photobucket

stagezero
11-15-2008, 08:54 PM
just use img code from photobucket

true true......lol im lost in the sauce lol also if u guys get bored and wanna see some street racing from where im from go to youtube and look up "lawton street racing". theres a 08 subie(non sti) that is my friend he runs 8.0 on the 8th mile not even launching it on low boost. an srt-4 that is also a friend of mine beating up on a SC 06 mustang GT with 456whp and GTOs. theres like 30 videos and they are entertaining.

stagezero
11-15-2008, 11:35 PM
ok here some pics of my car ill have more on here in due time

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/mysigpic.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/sig2.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/sig3.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/SSPX0588.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/SSPX0467.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/SSPX0466edited.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/IMGP0297_resize.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/IMGP0282_resize.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/DSCF3022.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/yackemup/DSCF2664_resize-1.jpg
heres my cutout(dont know why it says hongkong in front of it maybe cause im in iraq and out net is based from there)
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=D3kphxECwoQ

04GTP-WhatLag?
11-16-2008, 01:04 AM
I like how stagezero brags about his car and can't even spell nitrous...

seriously nitris? I mean I know citrus, but that is a fruit, lol

and pics of your riced out Cobalt do nothing for us, do you have any timeslips or videos???

WICKED
11-16-2008, 01:07 AM
dude thats totally rice


zomg rice rice rice

::rollseyes::

stagezero
11-16-2008, 01:34 AM
I like how stagezero brags about his car and can't even spell nitrous...

seriously nitris? I mean I know citrus, but that is a fruit, lol

and pics of your riced out Cobalt do nothing for us, do you have any timeslips or videos???

hmmmm yo moron im in iraq do u think ill have any timeslips or videos that are on my external back in the states.......think before u speak i might take shortcuts on spelling words but at least im not stupid and my avatar isnt a fucking slow as boat. i got pics posted in 09 cobalt thread and one video of a cutout i got. and as far as bein riced out....pfft whats ur definition of riced out? all i have is a fuckin hood.....lol no body kit sooooo tell me

LittleMT
11-16-2008, 08:17 AM
hmmmm yo moron im in iraq do u think ill have any timeslips or videos that are on my external back in the states.......think before u speak i might take shortcuts on spelling words but at least im not stupid and my avatar isnt a fucking slow as boat. i got pics posted in 09 cobalt thread and one video of a cutout i got. and as far as bein riced out....pfft whats ur definition of riced out? all i have is a fuckin hood.....lol no body kit sooooo tell me

you are on a roll......

stagezero
11-16-2008, 10:26 AM
you are on a roll......

rolling rolling rolling raaahhhhhaaaahhhhhh!
ur fuckin awesome:D

Syntaxfast
02-12-2009, 06:37 PM
New to the forum, but this is my first post since I found this older thread by accident.

First, a little research goes a long way. I heard a couple of complaints about mods for the Cobalt SS. Why buy a car if you know of no mods from the start?

There is hope!!! Like I said, a little research goes a long way. This may not be new, but here is where you need to look for a strong start.

http://www.turbo-kits.com/cobalt_ss_turbo_kits.html

I see many others have posted links to piece by piece mods for our Cobalts. Research is required if you are serious about performance upgrades for any vehicle. If you want what the guy next door has, IMHO that is the lazy way, then accept what you read and see in forums like this.

I spent 30 minutes before deciding to buy my cobalt finding a lot of aftermarket for this car. I will include all the links I found. I am sure there is a forum or thread here with just links to aftermarket companies for our Cobalts.

Please forgive me for not posting pictures of my machine yet, I don't have the mods and it looks like any other SS off the lot. I don't see the point yet. Also, please forgive me for not posting a "who I am" thread as well. Not sure if that is pertinent and polite here.

I have seen a couple of sites like this forum, but I believe this forum is top of the list!

CrazyAturbo
03-15-2009, 12:06 AM
so im thinking about getting an Electric cut out...what you guys think?!

skoal*boy
03-15-2009, 04:54 PM
why? i think there stupid!!!!

bluebeast
03-16-2009, 04:18 AM
why? i think there stupid!!!!Yea having the ability to ad 10 extra horse power, relieve back presure on the turbo and make it spool faster by flipping a switch is pretty stupid.:rolleyes:

Red Turbo integra
03-24-2009, 09:09 AM
why? i think there stupid!!!!

What? Cut outs are bad ass! Open it up when you need power, and close that puppy when you just want to drive and not be pissed off because your listening to your loud ass exhaust all the time. Best of both worlds. If I had to do it again, I would do cut outs. Pretty much like bieng able to run an open DP.

fakameanrepresent
04-23-2009, 05:30 PM
PM us if you have questions, we carry a lot of parts for the SS/TC we have one here to verify part fit up also.

talking about parts, i was at ************* and they are having a big debate about upgrading the spring inside the recir valve. some said its a good mod, some said its bad. but everybody do agree about the bigger pssssh sound from the mod. pm me please in case i can't find this thread, thanks.

Ayrton Senna
09-24-2009, 01:40 AM
why? i think there stupid!!!!

Hi Dude,
can i ask you a question? Because i'm going crazy and even the guy that is supposed to modify my '09 Cobalt SS doesn't know how to do this:
how did yuo increase the psi of the turbo? Because he told me that he needs a particular software to get into the eprom to be able to change the pressure and do the other required adjustments.
I would thank you forever if you answer me.
Thank you!
Christian

skoal*boy
09-24-2009, 08:24 AM
the only way your going to beable to up ur boost is to get a tune, You cant get them from alot of different ppl too.

RAIDERNATION 433
09-24-2009, 12:23 PM
i dont even have a 1000 miles on my car yet and was looking to upgrade. Should i wait?

skoal*boy
09-24-2009, 02:11 PM
man i had 900 miles on my car and had

Charge piping
CAI
And a tune

skoal*boy
09-24-2009, 02:12 PM
iam sure it would be good it wait until 5000+ miles tho