BTW, I got to see my first SS and of all places....at the track LOL. It needed a driver mod BAD. First run he did nothing but smoke his tires down the track staying in first and second gear. He lost to a civic because of the burnout down the track. Second run he still spun pretty bad but let out to get traction. Ended up running a [email protected] Yeah, he needs to learn to drive LOL. There was a RL there running mid 14's trapping mid 90's. He could drive a lot better than the SS guy could.