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09-17-2006 03:13 PM
scrappy
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Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4 View Post
Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the help.
X2. Good info to be familiar with.
09-15-2006 06:01 PM
LS2 Powered
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Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4 View Post
Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the help.
anytime.
09-15-2006 04:40 PM
West Palm SRT4 Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the help.
09-15-2006 04:27 PM
LS2 Powered
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Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4 View Post
Since we are on the discussion of GM v8's, I want to ask you guys a question. Why is it that I'll see a Camaro SS with an LS1, and then I'll see a Z28 with an LS1? I thought only one was suppose to have the Ls1 and the other had an LT1?

Engine choice doesn't go by trim level on those camaros....just by year.

1993-1997: All V8 camaros got Generation-II "LT1" engines, except for a few rare cases that got the similar but more powerful "LT4" (30th anniversary SS models and such)

The "SS" trim level was resurrected in 1996 as an equipment package ON TOP OF the standard Z28 equipment (which meant same motor with different exhaust, ram-air hood and some other odds and ends)

1998-2002: All V8 camaros got the Generation-III "LS1" engine. despite the difference in power RATINGS, all LS1 engines make approximately the same horsepower, no matter what vehicle they're in. (C5 corvettes and GTOs (true dual exhaust) make about 350, camaros and firebirds about 340-345 due to a single y-pipe exhaust setup.

(In 2001-2002, the LS1 got a freer flowing LS6 (Z06) intake manifold which brought power ratings up a little on paper but actually didn't make that much difference because it was largely cancelled out by a slightly LESS aggressive camshaft than the '98-'00 cars.)

The engines in the LS1 SS and Z28 are IDENTICAL. in truth an LS1 SS and an LS1 Z28 are a driver's race. The SS exhaust is slightly less restrictive and they have a supposed "ram air" induction system, but in reality, those changes DO NOT give the SS any significant performance advantage.

the important thing is that the engines are THE SAME THING and thus, the power output is essentially identical.

here are the main additions one would get if they ordered the SS option on a '98-'02 Z28...(there are a couple other things I didn't include because they aren't all that important anyway)

-Ram Air hood (realistically, it didn't actually work)
-taller rear spoiler
-larger 17x9 inch wheels with 275/40/17 tires
-stiffer springs/shocks
-thicker swaybars
-less restrictive exhaust (not much, still not as good as anything aftermarket)
-hi-flo air lid (optional, not all SS cars got this and again it was a gimmick that was not as good as a pure aftermarket lid anyway)
-3.23 gears standard in automatic cars (the Z28 came with 2.73s standard, 3.23s were a stand-alone option. 6-speed cars all had 3.42 gears regardless of SS or Z28 trim levels)
09-15-2006 02:16 PM
alkaline3
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Originally Posted by West Palm SRT4 View Post
Since we are on the discussion of GM v8's, I want to ask you guys a question. Why is it that I'll see a Camaro SS with an LS1, and then I'll see a Z28 with an LS1? I thought only one was suppose to have the Ls1 and the other had an LT1?
The 90's SS was essentially an appearance/suspension package, that's about it

Z28s got the LS1 in 98, 01 and 02 got the LS6 intake.
09-15-2006 01:48 PM
West Palm SRT4 Since we are on the discussion of GM v8's, I want to ask you guys a question. Why is it that I'll see a Camaro SS with an LS1, and then I'll see a Z28 with an LS1? I thought only one was suppose to have the Ls1 and the other had an LT1?
09-11-2006 04:41 PM
S8ER95Z LMAO.. You didn't I am sure this thread will die off someday.
09-11-2006 03:16 PM
West Palm SRT4 When did I join the LS Engine Forums. Oh well, I like the cars lol, continue on guys.
09-11-2006 01:52 PM
LS2 Powered
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Not to mention I hope people realize the LS1 was underrated in nearly every vehicle it's been put in. So it's not unheard of for an LS1 powered GTO to be in the mid to low 13s with a great driver.

truth.....most people aho aren't GM V8 fans don't know that.
09-10-2006 11:13 PM
S8ER95Z Not to mention I hope people realize the LS1 was underrated in nearly every vehicle it's been put in. So it's not unheard of for an LS1 powered GTO to be in the mid to low 13s with a great driver.
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