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I can not see the Cobalt compared to the Camry or Accord. I have driven a Pontiac Pursuit and the Cobalt's not far off. I've sat in a Cobalt LS and it looked cheap despite the better trim. The vents look to be part of the dash. By that I mean it doesn't look like they're a separte piece. The plastic is hard but feels cheap when I tap on it. The cut of the metallic colored strip running from door to door near the center console looked uneven. I don't know what the manual shifter for the Cobalt LS is like but in the Pursuit, it was this ugly, black, rubber ball. The door also pressed against my arm (and I'm a small 5'6" guy). The handling was not responsive; rocking the steering wheel back and forth only yielded in virtually unnoticeable swerves. The steering wheel in the LS was better than the Pursuit though. The LS's was wrapped whereas the Pursuit's was a hard, non-grippy plastic. They could have at least used a urethane coat.

I'd say it's more fair to compare to the Civic. The 2006 ratings for the Civic are going to be closer. I'm guessing 160hp for the base and 200hp for the Si Coupe. You know, I still see the Honda Civic outselling the Cobalt even though it's got less of an oomph.
 

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tecmec said:
so i'm not the only one who thinks the cobalt/pursuit has a cheep interior. i agree with that, the plastic seems a bit to cheap. and yeah, whats with the shifter, by the looks of it the ss's isn't much better...
Well, at least the shift knob can be replaced... I hope the ring as well. :)
 

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CamaroBill said:
Gentlemen, there are those among us, for whom looks are pretty irrelevant. We want "sleepers", that are invisible (except for fat, low tires and an exhaust burble that nobody can hear over their killer stereo systems). We want low weight ($crew the air, power windows, and bye, bye CD player; do killer sub woofers weigh much? At least they're in the trunk) and high horsepower (as long as it can hook up, after a fashion; it is never enough).
The surprising thing is that the Cobalt SS appeals to such a wide range of people. The General has finally done something right for those of us that can't afford a Z06, Viper, or GT (where is the SVT Cobra?).
So, are you going to remove the SS branding? I've shaved my emblems off. I sorta like how people don't know what trim my car is. The worse are car salesmen... They don't even know WHAT car I drive and it's got a pretty unique look and a model that's been out since 2002.

Anyway, for me, I'd choose a Civic as a sleeper. One reason is that there are so many slow, "ricey" ones out there they wouldn't expect anything different from one that was stock. You could rice it up and it'd still be a sleeper. Haha...

But I want to start a show car (with balls) some day. I think I'm going to choose the over done Civic. But I'd start with a 2006+ so it'll be somewhat original.
 

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actionjackson said:
One of my friends took my badges off with a screwdriver. I needed to buy touch up paint because there was a scratch behind the badge. After he took my badges of, he called me over to show e the scratch. He said that Acura puts the scratches there to give the adhesive something to bond to.
I'm afraid your friend's a liar.
 
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