I actually know quite well what I'm talking about there are over 1,400 members on my board. I have been on saturnfans.com for more than 5 years and am one of the top posters there. I spoke to 3 people at a car meet here in Indianapolis that OWN Redline Ion's and they all were experiencing the same problem. Not that the car was taking a few seconds their cars didnt start period. So dont tell me I dont know what I'm talking about you dont even know my background! Most of the people who were having the starting problem had the problem fixed by a software update. But it was still a problem whether you think so or not, do a search. Several people have been selling their cars because they are fed up with the problems.
That's nice... let me address this point by point before you pop a blood vessel defending your honor.
Of the few hundered people on the forum I'm talking about there was about 10, and no more than 20 people that were having an issue. Of those MAYBE 5 are still having an issue. Of those 5, I don't recall more than 1 that was in a situation where the car would not start at all. Of the dozens of posts in the thread about problems, there was 8 different people that accounted for over 50% of the 83 posts. I was one of them.
I never said you didn't know what you were talking about, I said you were exaggerating the problem. Which you are. The REAL no start issue was with the Cam Position Sensor NOT the ECU program. So there you do NOT know what you are talking about. I have a copy of the exact TSB for the issue which I got from the Service Manager at Saturn. Would you like a copy? That isssue can make the car not start since the timing of the engine is off. No one said these were not problems, but they are a far cry from what you are painting it to be.
Your defensiveness is completely out of line, my comments were not originally meant to be an insult, but you have obviously taken them as such. Thats your own problem. I'm letting the people on here know the actual details of the problems that were had with the Redlines as opposed to slinging statements around that make them seem like a POS.
Also, the board you speak of may have 1400 members, but the get about 10 posts a day the deal with the Redline specifically. I'm on there everyday as well. Just checked and there has been 3 posts since I went there yesterday about the Redline... tons of info there...