Dual or Single Exhaust?
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well you are only going to get true dual exhaust with a v-6,v-8,v-10 something with two sets of headers or something with split headers...what the cobalt would have would be a single pipe from the header back to the rearend then you could have it split to have two exhaust tips or a single, with this I don't believe there is a significant gain over the single outlet or dual outlet in the rear.
So now your dilemma would be what size of pipe to get, 2.5" or 3".
If you plan on having some high HP go with the 3", even if you don't really need it right away it will open up the doors for more power down the road with the more mods you add. Modern Performance is testing a 3" exhaust now go check out their section in the vendors area for more info.
So now your dilemma would be what size of pipe to get, 2.5" or 3".
If you plan on having some high HP go with the 3", even if you don't really need it right away it will open up the doors for more power down the road with the more mods you add. Modern Performance is testing a 3" exhaust now go check out their section in the vendors area for more info.
I agree. Probably no real gain to be had until you start making very substantial power. If you were making much more power, had a large primary from the header, and a hi-flow or no cat, then maybe you could make a performance case for a dual setup. But until then, it's just cosmetics...
How is 2 tailpipes rice?
I swear that term gets thrown around way too much and by people that have no idea about what is and isn't.
Why do they put it on he asks....a specific reason other than looks, I'm not sure.
Compare performance vehicles from the last 40-50 years or so....name performance vehicles that had two tailpipes to those with only one, it just looks better.
Camaro's and T/A's fell into this as well with having a single exhaust pipe and splitting at the rear into dual (outlets).
Dual exhaust is two exhaust pipes seperated from each other from the engine to the rear....except for the occasional 'X' or 'H' pipe thrown in. One exhaust pipe on one header. One muffler for each pipe.
SRT/Cobalt/most other 4cyl are single exhaust with dual exhaust 'tips' at the rear of the car.
Something that may be considered rice would be those with a new rear bodykit with spots for two exhaust tips but the vehicle only has one.
I swear that term gets thrown around way too much and by people that have no idea about what is and isn't.
Why do they put it on he asks....a specific reason other than looks, I'm not sure.
Compare performance vehicles from the last 40-50 years or so....name performance vehicles that had two tailpipes to those with only one, it just looks better.
Camaro's and T/A's fell into this as well with having a single exhaust pipe and splitting at the rear into dual (outlets).
Dual exhaust is two exhaust pipes seperated from each other from the engine to the rear....except for the occasional 'X' or 'H' pipe thrown in. One exhaust pipe on one header. One muffler for each pipe.
SRT/Cobalt/most other 4cyl are single exhaust with dual exhaust 'tips' at the rear of the car.
Something that may be considered rice would be those with a new rear bodykit with spots for two exhaust tips but the vehicle only has one.
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Well i will most likely get the dual's because i like the overall look of it and even though there is no gain there will be a different sound and tone. 
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No they are not that big. they are like 3 or 3 1/2 inches i think.
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the tips on those are probably ...3"-4" the mufflers are most likely about 5"-6". Myself, I just don't like to be able to see the muffler(s).
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Just so you have a better idea of idea of what Iw as talking about with single exhaust, dual tips (for those that may not know) here are some pics of the stock srt exhaust.
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Just so you have a better idea of idea of what Iw as talking about with single exhaust, dual tips (for those that may not know) here are some pics of the stock srt exhaust.
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Hell yeah! STRAIGHT PIPES from the factory!!! Wish we coulda pulled that off!mm_omega2 said:
Edit: on this note, there's a guy around here that has an SRT-4, ok first off he's a dumba$$, He has this powerful four cyl and can only hit a 10.3 in the 1/8. Couldnt figure out why. A friend of mine got to drive his car and pushed it to almost redline, and the SRT guy got pissed cuz he revved it so high. Thats why he's slow as shit, he launches like he's racin his lil sister on her ten speed and wont come within 500 of the redline. Anywho back to my point, I asked him if he knew that he had a straight pipe from the factory and he GOT DOWN AND LOOKED and said "No, they arent straight." I was like nevermind man... He doesnt even know what he's drivin!!!!
I have found this with quite a lot of people....sigh....
if you say straight pipe, people actually think the pipes are straight (not curved)
lol, and for those that thought this before.
Slang terms , straight pipe(s) mean you have no mufflers, just exhaust pipes. It doesn't mean that the exhaust pipes are actually straight from the front to the rear with no bends.
SRT-4 has no mufflers just 2 resonators, if you look in the 3rd pic I posted above you can see them.
if you say straight pipe, people actually think the pipes are straight (not curved)
lol, and for those that thought this before.
Slang terms , straight pipe(s) mean you have no mufflers, just exhaust pipes. It doesn't mean that the exhaust pipes are actually straight from the front to the rear with no bends.
SRT-4 has no mufflers just 2 resonators, if you look in the 3rd pic I posted above you can see them.
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Yeah i know the term straight pipe is very deceving.
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Anything that doesn't give performance over stock is consider as ricer in my book. Different people have different opinion on what ricer is, but this is my .02. Yes, it does look nice, but if there is no performance gain, other then looks, then in my book is consider as rice. I'm all go, not show. Now I understand that other's might not agree with me, but hey, everyone is entitle to their own opinion. This subject has been beaten down to death on the SRT forum as well, on why the SRT got dual tips, when all we really need is one. But if you guys want to get dual tips, be my guest, just make sure that when it's cold, and you're lined up at the track, that people don't only see one tip with steam coming out while the other tip is just sitting there. I was cracking up when I saw that on a Honda.......
Probably not, I'm pretty sure that if Modern makes a dual tip exhaust for your car, that it would probably be a functional dual tip exhaust. Meaning, steam should be coming out of both tips. Modern usually do a good job in making their parts, so I wouldn't worry about it.bullitzx2 said:
Daul Exhaust is as unecessary for a 4 cylinder as a $2,000 body kit, giant aluminum wing or any other Rice addition would be. All it does is add weight and cost for a worthless modification. I have single exhaust on my car and I have 485 hp and 540 pounds of torque at the rear wheels.
On the other hand a single exhaust dual tip muffler isn't too bad.
On the other hand a single exhaust dual tip muffler isn't too bad.
Yeahm but I am glad I got rid of the stock anyway...the tips were jsut too smal for the cutouts in the bumper, the 4" tips I have now fill out the holes and looks a lot better. Along with better flow and a better exhaust note to boot.JDMCivic said:
That exhaust takes about 30 minutes to change out, old out new in and driving. That is knucking futs
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