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Before i start, I must twll you guys that there a lot of SS's here in phx. The dealer i went to today had 6! Then twp others have 5 each.

Anyways, I must say the interior of the car is great! Pictures do this thing no justice. I didn't like it until i saw it in person. I had a choice of black, red, or silver. Victory red with red inserts is nice as hell. The interior is identicle to my focus. It was fully loaded, onstar, mp3, premium sound, moonroof, etc. The exterior is very nice too. The wing isn't ricey looking like the pics make it out to be. I actually liked it. The front looks like a civic, and the back looks like a cavalier, which i guess isn't too bad when combined. I think it looked more "mature" compared to the boy racer srt-4.

Ok, the best part..driving. The first odd thing I noticed was the wacky boost gage. I would barely tocu the gas, and the needle would fly past 5 psi..I know for a fact the car ain't pumping that much boost at 1500 rpm, in 4 th gear, doing 40 mph. And when i did hit the gas, it IMMEDIATELY jumped past 10 psi. No way in hell it spools that fast. The car was pretty quick,. but didn't pull me into the seat like the srt-4 did. I think maybe cuz of the nature of an eaton blower verus a turbo. It felt more like a well built all motor 4 banger. i couldn't really even tell it had a blower on it. It does launch hard in first, but the power feels like it's dying off real fast. And i already hate drive by wire. There is some serious lag time between the pedal and the motor reaction to it.
i tried to buy it, but couldn't cuz the asshole that was appraising my car refused to give me more than 8k for it (even though KBB says it's worth 10.8k). Because of that, I didn't buy a Vicitory Red SS. But i will try one more dealership soon.

BTW, it sounded like I was dogging the performance, butr not really. i think i had too high of expectations for it. I still want it though, cuz i know with some tweaking, it can be a bad ass car. i think it's nicer than the srt-4.
 

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Ok, the best part..driving. The first odd thing I noticed was the wacky boost gage. I would barely tocu the gas, and the needle would fly past 5 psi..I know for a fact the car ain't pumping that much boost at 1500 rpm, in 4 th gear, doing 40 mph.
Why do you say that? When you are at LOW rpms in a HIGH gear it will put a load on the car instantly. It very well could be seeing 5psi like that.
 

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There is some serious lag time between the pedal and the motor reaction to it.
That's just because it's a Chevy. I have a 76 Chevy with a 400 sm blk and it does the same thing. Put the pedal to the floor and it takes a half a second to think about it. Next thing you know your sideways filling the road with a cloud that smells like rubber. ;) You have to realize it does need to be broke in to get the full potential. Good luck with the purchase. In time the Trans Am will be that slow car you used to have. :D

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Why do you say that? When you are at LOW rpms in a HIGH gear it will put a load on the car instantly. It very well could be seeing 5psi like that.
I highly doubt its pushing 5psi in high gear at 40. 5psi at a cruising speed with the throttle barely applied would absolutely kill gas mileage, so I think GM would not setup the car to do so. I also doubt its hitting 10psi right off the bat as well. Sounds like the boost gauge is either a piece of shit or just needs to be broken in.
 

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Actually, the gauge (crappy digital gauge) on my GTP did the same thing. It would show full boost anytime you touched the throttle, no matter what the engine speed was. Even with cruise control on flat roads (I'm in Florida, that's all we've got) it would occassionally show boost. As far as the drive by wire, I don't really feel it lag any, but I prefer it over what was on my GTP. The throttle would occassionally stick when driving at highway speeds for long periods. I'd get off an exit, pull up to a stop light, and the damn thing would be sitting at 3500 rpms while I'd be standing on the brakes to hold it. After replacing the cable and taking it to 2 different dealerships with neither of them finding anything wrong, I gave up and dealt with it. If it felt like it was stuck, I could just stab the throttle a couple times and it would loosen. Kinda killed the brakes, though.

Honestly, my SS doesn't feel like it pulls as hard as my GTP (stock) did, but the numbers don't lie, nor the needle on the speedometer. It is definately faster, just the power is smoother and less eventful.

I feel your pain on the trade-in. My dealership would only give me $3552 (the exact amount I still owed on it, what a coincidence :rolleyes: ) when the KBB trade-in was around $5000. So they didn't get my GTP, I sold it myself. Wasn't easy pulling an additional $3000 out of my a$$ for the down payment, either, but I managed. Nothing but balogne sandwiches for a month, but my bills are just about caught up again. :D
 

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Well, guys, i'm trying again today. Wish me luck!
 

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I've been going down interstate before at 65 and floor it in 5th gear and the boost gauge would read 10 psi
 

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nice. the cobalt is much better in person. the build quality seems higher to me than the srt-4. now both cars are great and yes the srt-4 is faster with more hp. but the thing to consider is the cobalt has a better suspension out of the box and the quality and reliability is better. i like both cars but in the long run the cobalt is a better car overall. and i would trust the cobalt to drive me everyday over the srt-4.
 

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I tried again today, but the dealer had no red with red inserts and moonroof. They had just plain black leather and no moonroof or onstar. So again, back to the drawing board.
 

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I tried again today, but the dealer had no red with red inserts and moonroof. They had just plain black leather and no moonroof or onstar. So again, back to the drawing board.
Really did you check your other local chevy dealers or ant that are an hour or less away? Try a search on chevy's site and see if you can bring up any SS's near by. :)
 

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nice. the cobalt is much better in person. the build quality seems higher to me than the srt-4. now both cars are great and yes the srt-4 is faster with more hp. but the thing to consider is the cobalt has a better suspension out of the box and the quality and reliability is better. i like both cars but in the long run the cobalt is a better car overall. and i would trust the cobalt to drive me everyday over the srt-4.

i totally agree on that. I really wanted the SRT because it was a little bit quicker, but after comparing the two and hearing from friends that they are having so many problems with their SRTs i decided on the cobalt.
 

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nice. the cobalt is much better in person. the build quality seems higher to me than the srt-4. now both cars are great and yes the srt-4 is faster with more hp. but the thing to consider is the cobalt has a better suspension out of the box and the quality and reliability is better. i like both cars but in the long run the cobalt is a better car overall. and i would trust the cobalt to drive me everyday over the srt-4.
Not to knock on you or anything but what ever gave you the impression the SRT isn't reliable? The motor and car is by far, solid. People really need to stop thinking this neon was the same neon and motor that was first introduced way back when. The first neons had a completely different motor and were plaqued with the head gasket issue. These days thing have drastically changed. No problems here bud. I'm not pissed but I just can't stand seeing these posts on forums of someone saying the reliability on the SRT is crap lol. Whoever thought that shit should say that when alot of SRTs are in the 400+whp range and have NO major or reliability issue.

Now sure the SS may have a nicer fit and finish and interior. Which is nice if thats what you into. But I'll sacrifice performance for creature comfort anyday. If I want a nicer interior or GPS or whatever, then I'd buy a Lexus, Bimmer, Benz, but for performance, I see no point in stacking up in creature comfort. There are those of us that are into performance over fashion, thats why we choose the SRT.


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i totally agree on that. I really wanted the SRT because it was a little bit quicker, but after comparing the two and hearing from friends that they are having so many problems with their SRTs i decided on the cobalt.

Again, what many problems? If you look here, you will find a plethora of issues that are already plagueing the SS too. All cars will have bugs, especially new ones.
 

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Not to knock on you or anything but what ever gave you the impression the SRT isn't reliable? The motor and car is by far, solid. People really need to stop thinking this neon was the same neon and motor that was first introduced way back when. The first neons had a completely different motor and were plaqued with the head gasket issue. These days thing have drastically changed. No problems here bud. I'm not pissed but I just can't stand seeing these posts on forums of someone saying the reliability on the SRT is crap lol. Whoever thought that shit should say that when alot of SRTs are in the 400+whp range and have NO major or reliability issue.

Now sure the SS may have a nicer fit and finish and interior. Which is nice if thats what you into. But I'll sacrifice performance for creature comfort anyday. If I want a nicer interior or GPS or whatever, then I'd buy a Lexus, Bimmer, Benz, but for performance, I see no point in stacking up in creature comfort. There are those of us that are into performance over fashion, thats why we choose the SRT.





Again, what many problems? If you look here, you will find a plethora of issues that are already plagueing the SS too. All cars will have bugs, especially new ones.

ive talked with three seperate people who say their SRTs need new turbos already but that of course the dealership wont do anything because the cars still run. You can just say "it feels slower than it use to" and expect them to actually try to fix that problem.
 

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yea, I was on the srt site a while ago, and there was a ton of complaints about dealerships screwing them over and not fixing their cars. So, i dont' want a srt, but cuz of the dealerships, not cuz of the car itself.
 

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ive talked with three seperate people who say their SRTs need new turbos already but that of course the dealership wont do anything because the cars still run. You can just say "it feels slower than it use to" and expect them to actually try to fix that problem.
Hahah, I've NEVER heard of this. Please show me threads or give me names of these indivduals claiming a MASS number in turbo failure. The stock mitsu turbo is just fine. Its only good for 300hp so who keeps that thing in there anyways? ;)

Now if they are dogging their car or driving hard and don't allow the turbo time to "cool down" after spirited driving, thats not the turbos fault for failure, thats the dumbass who doesn't know how to keep turbo life by not coking the oil inside of it. Some people get what they deserve if thats the case.

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yea, I was on the srt site a while ago, and there was a ton of complaints about dealerships screwing them over and not fixing their cars. So, i dont' want a srt, but cuz of the dealerships, not cuz of the car itself.

Thats because when you mod it, say bye bye to your warranty.This is old news. Same applies to ANY car these days. EVO, SRT, WRX/STi, soon to be SS....doesn't matter. Just watch...once you mod it, I bet they will not warranty it. Remember, its only the POWERTRAIN warranty, they are putting a RESTRICTION on, not the entire car itself. You still have a warranty, just not on the stuff your messing with, which makes plenty of common sense.
 

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Oh yea, I drove another one yesteday..and this one was noticeably better than the last one I drove. The boost gage worked, and it pulled harder. Lesson here. test drive all cobalt SS's on lot, and pick one that drfives the strongest.
 

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Oh yea, I drove another one yesteday..and this one was noticeably better than the last one I drove. The boost gage worked, and it pulled harder. Lesson here. test drive all cobalt SS's on lot, and pick one that drfives the strongest.
Really Hummm... because when i get one i will be ordering one unless one shows up areound the time i start really lookin for one but that makes me worry if and when i get mine it wont be as powerful. :confused: :)
 

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Take everything you read with a grain of salt online... not to undermind anyone...

also if you get yours off the trailer, your much better off, you get to break it in right and now have people like the ones on here adn salesmen beating the crap out fo your car when its not suppsed to be... I would never buy this car right off the lot
 
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