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I found a company that makes a kit specifically for the Redlines for around $400. I pretty sure they will fit on the cobalt ss aswell. They are boasting 35-40 whp consistantly out of the Redlines, w/ no other mods.

WWW.snowperformance.net

I did not find the kits on the web sit, I had one of their dealers here in Denver find out for me.
 

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Coolingmist makes 8 kits that are cheaper than 400, with 6 of them being under 300. And I dont see anything a whole heck of a lot better on the Boost Cooler systems as compared to the coolingmist. They better lower their prices substantially if they want to compete in this market atleast.
 

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Anyone run Alchy/Methanol injection yet? I'm in with the local Syclone/Typhoon crowd, and the LOVE the effect it has on those boosted motors. I've also heard several of the lightning guys say it was one of the best mods ever.

www.alchycontrol.com has a nice progressive setup that is in the same $$ range as those above. You can control ramp up rate, and turn on point......

I'd be VERY interested to see how this car reacts to alchy/meth.
 

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i have the snow performance on my 2001 alero super charged and they do work great. i picked up aprox 25-30 whp using it.

i agree they are a little pricey but any kit is worth the gains
 

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What kind of gains does the cooling mist products get?
 

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Probably the same seeing as how it does the exact same thing, just cheaper.
 

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2kwik4u said:
Anyone run Alchy/Methanol injection yet? I'm in with the local Syclone/Typhoon crowd, and the LOVE the effect it has on those boosted motors. I've also heard several of the lightning guys say it was one of the best mods ever.

www.alchycontrol.com has a nice progressive setup that is in the same $$ range as those above. You can control ramp up rate, and turn on point......

I'd be VERY interested to see how this car reacts to alchy/meth.
NavyMitch on Redlineforums.com has just recently, like within the last week, finished his alchy injection kit, with the help of one of the other members. Come on over, and use the search for alchy injection, there have been many discussions on it already over there.
 

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2kwik4u said:
Anyone run Alchy/Methanol injection yet? I'm in with the local Syclone/Typhoon crowd, and the LOVE the effect it has on those boosted motors. I've also heard several of the lightning guys say it was one of the best mods ever.

www.alchycontrol.com has a nice progressive setup that is in the same $$ range as those above. You can control ramp up rate, and turn on point......

I'd be VERY interested to see how this car reacts to alchy/meth.
link no good,...
 

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Its not like "NOS" since N.O.S. is a brand, it is like nitrous though where its only working when you activate it. Go read the coolingmist thread if you want to learn how it works.
 

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You guys will make 0 hp adding an alky kit UNLESS, stock, your motor is knocking to the high heavens. Alky doesn't make HP, it just allows a boosted engine to make use of the hp it already makes by cooling down the intake charge, lowering or eliminating KR all together and allowing the engine to increase ignition timing. That's it. There's guys over on www.clubgp.com running a 3.1-3.0" pulley with just alky, intake and t-stat. Normal supporting mods for those pulleys are 3" dp, intake, t-stat, 2 range colder plugs, pcm of some kind, headers or pems, cam or rockers and in some cases, an IC.

Remember: Alky makes 0 hp when added to a boosted engine UNLESS the engine was sick with KR to begin with.
 

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what the hell does water injection do?
 

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what the hell does water injection do?
Gran Prix Guy pretty much covered it, just look above your post.

It also adds a bit of an octane boost. Very little but it adds some.
Methenol is 118 octane, but you cut it with 50% water and just a hair of a lubricating oil such as Marvel Myster Oil.

You usually will have it come on at a certain boost level.

I start seeing KR around 4.3 lbs of boost, so I set the boost activation switch to 4.3 lbs.
 

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You usually will have it come on at a certain boost level.

I start seeing KR around 4.3 lbs of boost, so I set the boost activation switch to 4.3 lbs.

i was talking to the dude that owns coolmist and he said it would be best if i activated it at 8p.s.i. cause it might cause some disturbances below that. does anyone know if i should run different plugs with this setup?
 

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ALCOHOL INJECTION:

Compiled by Chad Schwartz

General Information:

Alcohol sprayed directly into the charged air stream has a substantial cooling effect and acts kind of like an inter-cooler. Alcohol’s cooling ability reduces detonation and allows higher boost levels to be run with low octane fuel. Cylinder temperatures can drop as much as 300 degrees. Alcohol injection may be added to your recipe at any point as it works well from a stocker to a full racer.

The concept of injecting alcohol and water into an engine to increase power output is not new. The research and testing has been done years ago and still continues today. During WWII the military used alcohol and water injection on aircraft to enhance combustion by cooling the charged air coming in from forced induction. Ever wonder why Turbo Regals have the "Power Injection" light on the dash and "Power Injection" location in the fuse box? GM had plans to put water injection on Turbo Regals for power enhancement by reducing detonation and increasing boost levels. Unfortunately it did not go into production. The light would illuminate when the water injection was pumping. Jay Carter, Steve Chlupsa, and Frederic Breitwieser are just a few great examples of people that have done extensive design and testing of alcohol injection systems for Turbo Buick applications. They have been very successful with their efforts and have brought forward great technology.

Many people have successfully used alcohol injection on Turbo Buick engines hundreds of passes with no damage to parts, seals, or cylinder walls. GM did implement alcohol injection on a few durability test engines run on a dyno. During the durability tests the engines were cycled between the peak torque RPM and the peak horsepower RPM for the equivalent of 100,000 miles. Afterwards they were tore down and examined. They noted significantly more cylinder bore wear in the alcohol/water injected engines. It was believed to be from unburnt alcohol and water washing the oil off the cylinder walls but they could have also been running higher boost levels. This wear problem was only found on engines run through the durability dyno test and not on any other tests. The alcohol kits for Turbo Buicks only turn on during boost situations. So, I guess if you plan on having your foot to the floor for 100,000 miles with the alcohol injecting this could pose a potential problem for you otherwise there is no worry. This is a tried and true safe method of increasing the power of your Turbo Buick engine. The only real danger to alcohol injection is letting it run out of alcohol during a high boost blast. If the alcohol runs out severe knock is most likely going to occur because you probably are running higher boost levels than the gas in your tank at the time can handle. Bad enough knock could occur causing a blown head gasket or maybe even worse engine destruction. So, make sure there is always plenty of alcohol in the container.
 

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i was talking to the dude that owns coolmist and he said it would be best if i activated it at 8p.s.i. cause it might cause some disturbances below that. does anyone know if i should run different plugs with this setup?
I bought my kit from Dave. I found he was not very versed in using the kit on the SC 3800 engines. Although he did mention to spray after the blower if possible.
 

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think it' spretty much impossible with these setups, i read that if it's before the blower, it needs to be as far away as possible...


the other thing is if it only runs when i hit over 8psi, it won't be ran that much.. just during a hard run occasionally.



unless someone else knows of a way to so this after the blower? short of paying for a fabbed bracket for the blower to sit on
 
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