Obviously you have no clue. It's not as easy as just "sucking the factory setting from the stock PCM." The PCMs have locks that must be bypassed or cracked. And if he's using HP Tuners software then he can't pull the code. I know how easy it is as I do my own PCM tuning on my LS1, but it's only easy when you have the right software. Just because it's GM doesn't mean HP Tuners will read it. I've already tried with Flashscan. I'm all about pioneering and being the first to try stuff on these cars, but you're up here talking like this is a definite process and you've already done it. It's not that easy. If your friend is a PCM guru and has already cracked the Ecotec PCMs then by all means spread the word and start tuning, but to post a message talking like you've already done it is misleading to these guys. That's all I'm saying. Your post should read "Need volunteers to give up their PCM for Programming R&D." It's very easy to "kill" a PCM many LS1 guys in the beginning with LS1Edit killed their PCMs because of power failures during programming and other problems. PCM cracking is not an easy task which is why these companies go through so much beta testing BEFORE software is released and even after its release there are still updates and revisions for certain situations. You still haven't clarified what his process is, and your original post says he's using HP Tuners. HP Tuners does not support these vehicles. They support every other GM vehicle American and Austalian, but no j-bodies, LSJ, or Ecotec. What are you going to do when someone sends you a PCM and the results aren't ideal? I.E. you can't program it or worse you fry it. You can catch an attitude all you want, I'm just looking out for the guy here who doesn't have knowledge in the PCM area and would be misled by your post. For the record, I have 3 cars and yes it would be a big deal sending my PCM to someone I have no idea about their business practices, technical skills or reputation. Are you going to insure the PCM sent to you? Or is it going to be at the volunteer's own risk? You make it sound like it's cake to crack a PCM when it's not. This is especially true when you're using another company's cable and software. Have you reverse engineered the HP Tuners cable to work with the Ecotec PCM? Have you an insider in GM that gave you the key to the PCM lock? Are you planning to do that with someone else's PCM? So many questions but no answers, only smart ass comments. Believe me, if it were that easy someone would've done it already. If all the Engineers at HP Tuners had to do was swap a few wires in their cable they would've done it a year ago and sold cables to the hundreds of j-body owners out there that need tuning. Those guys are using Megasquirt, SAFC, EManage and other piggyback units to tune their forced induction GM 4cylinder cars. All I'm saying is "fellas be careful of who let work on your car, ESPECIALLY the PCM." And like NIVO88T said "mail order tuning at it's best", the best mail order tuning is maybe a night tremor as opposed to a nightmare. Having your car's PCM tuned several hundred miles away isn't exactly the BEST way to go about it. This message would have been completely unneccessary if you would have clarified, even a little, that your friend has already done it or has a VERY GOOD idea of what need's to be done. But since you didn't I consider you to be just "talking out of your ass". And that's all I have to say about that.